do you buy through your own affiliate link?

by ruch1v
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So I'm not really on the clickbank scene (although am starting to get into it) and I was aware that its possible to purchase things through your own link and get discount, although I always thought that was a bit dodgy and black hat, however, recently in the forum I have read people mentioning that they regularly do this and advising others to do the same, infact I was on this Q and A call a few days back and the guy doing the call also suggested it.


so basically my question are, do you do this?

Is this seen to be common practice?


Ruchi
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Some sellers are fine with you doing that - while others feel they are being cheated. It's always a divisive topic.

    If paypal truly did not want people buying through their own link - they would disallow it just as Amazon does. You can buy through your own amazon links but won't get paid commission for it.

    It's a real problem only in the IM niche as a rule. If you find a product because an affiliate for the product advertised it - and then you buy the product through your own CB link....that's not fair to the other affiliate in my opinion.

    I don't agree with sellers who argue you are stealing from them because they get the amount of $$ for each sale they agreed to when they decided what commission to pay. I understand their feeling - just don't agree with it.

    What happens in someone's mind is that a $47 product with a $20 commission becomes a $27 product to them. Right or wrong, that's the mental impression.

    My own practice is to buy from the seller or another affiliate if the product is strictly for my own use. If I am evaluating a product to promote, I will buy through my own link.

    To me, that's better for the seller than to ask for a free copy to review.

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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Rationalizations, Kay. The percentage is called a "commission," not a "discount coupon."

      You will note that one is intended to go to the salesman (affiliate), for value delivered. The other, which doesn't apply here, is meant as an extra incentive for a buyer.

      And yes, that really is a meaningful distinction. In the case of commissions, they're paid to affiliates because they delivered the customer, which saved the merchant the money/time/effort of finding them. Saying that it's okay to buy through your own link suggests that the merchant's efforts have no value, and don't deserve to be rewarded when successful.

      This is one of those subjects I long ago got tired of trying to explain to people more than once, though. It's become just another check box among the many I keep in my head.


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    • Profile picture of the author eibhlin
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      ...My own practice is to buy from the seller or another affiliate if the product is strictly for my own use. If I am evaluating a product to promote, I will buy through my own link.

      To me, that's better for the seller than to ask for a free copy to review.

      kay
      I agree with Kay, though I write good, honest testimonials, and sellers often ask if they can send me a review copy. That's an "everyone wins" situation... as long as I like the product, that is!

      If I'm at all iffy about whether or not it's my kind of product, I'm more comfortable ordering an evaluation copy, and do so through my own link. If it's for personal use, I'll order through the seller's own website.

      I have no problem when someone buys one of my products through their own links.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Lewis
    Whenever I am interested in a product I first buy it with my Affiliate link to see if it's worth promoting. There are some really amazing sales letters out there but terribly bad products.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Saying that it's okay to buy through your own link suggests that the merchant's efforts have no value, and don't deserve to be rewarded when successful.
      I may not have been clear - I don't think it's ok. I understand why some do it that way - and also why sellers would object to it. That's not going to change the fact that it happens. Clickbank could solve the problem but doesn't. What is surprising is that sellers on CB aren't demanding a solution. You can order through your own link on Amazon - but you won't be paid a commission.

      What I didn't mention was that I contact the seller and tell him I bought through my own link - and why I did. I still think buying that way to evaluate is better than expecting a free copy from the seller. I've had several say they would have been happy to provide a review copy - but no one has objected to the purchase.

      I don't buy through my own link if the product is one for my own use. If I can't afford to pay the price - I don't need to be buying it.

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      • Profile picture of the author eibhlin
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

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        What I didn't mention was that I contact the seller and tell him I bought through my own link - and why I did. I still think buying that way to evaluate is better than expecting a free copy from the seller. I've had several say they would have been happy to provide a review copy - but no one has objected to the purchase.

        I don't buy through my own link if the product is one for my own use. If I can't afford to pay the price - I don't need to be buying it.

        kay
        Well said. That's what I was trying to convey, as well.

        In the past (pre-FTC changes), I've been contacted by sellers who want thoughtful testimonials. If I've enjoyed the seller's other products, or I have other reasons to think I'll like whatever-it-is, I'll accept the free copy.

        If it's iffy at all, I tell the seller "thanks, but I'll buy through my own link, just in case." Most sellers know that I don't write fake testimonials, and I don't want to feel obligated to reciprocate for a free product. So, for me anyway, buying through my own link is a comfortable halfway measure. I always tell the seller what I'm doing, so we're both on the same page.

        If the product is for my own use, not to evaluate, I don't use my own link to save money. Unless I heard about the product from someone else, I buy through the seller's own website.

        That said, after feeling annoyed when others bought my products through their own links, I stopped paying attention to that side of the transaction. I just cash the checks and try not to think about how much more I could have made. So, I have no problem with someone buying my products through their own links... because I'm rarely aware of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author nick1123
    Paul, what if I am buying a product to test it out before I sell it? Using my affiliate link would make it possible for test more product.

    That said I understand your reasoning.

    If someone bought my product using their affiliate link I wouldn't care.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    I don't think that the seller is being cheated if you buy from your own affiliate link.

    The seller did not have that sale before you joined so having a small percentage go to them from your purchase is OK and should not be cried on.

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    • Profile picture of the author Trent Brownrigg
      I've never bought anything through my own affiliate link. At least not that I can ever remember. If someone refers me to something then I think it is only fair to buy through their link and give them the commissions. If I find something on my own I think it is only fair to buy from the direct site instead of my own link. I suppose there are probably instances where buying from your own link isn't bad but most of the time it should not be done, in my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author Neil Morgan
    I just bought an IM product direct from a seller for $497 and paid full price. I never buy through my affiliate link.

    Then they bought my product for $197, but through their own affiliate link, saving them 50 bucks.

    It was a big name too

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    • Profile picture of the author theemperor
      Originally Posted by Neil Morgan View Post

      I just bought an IM product direct from a seller for $497 and paid full price. I never buy through my affiliate link.

      Then they bought my product for $197, but through their own affiliate link, saving them 50 bucks.

      It was a big name too

      Cheers,

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      This must be par-for-the-course with IM products. You are selling to people that know what an affiliate link is!

      Of course you could create your own programme that does a Clickbank "CDR" style thing to prevent this practice
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  • Profile picture of the author Nickolie0990
    I don't really see a problem with purchasing a CB product threw your affiliate link. After all it, the merchant didn't have that sell to begin with. If you are going to put your product on CB, then you must accept the good with the bad.

    However, I have seen people purchase a CB product with there link, and the product has a recurring commission. That why they get the the product at a discounted rate.
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Any commission offered by product owners to affiliates is a cost of doing business; a marketing expense no different from the cost of a PPC campaign, for example. Serious businesses calculate these metrics and factor them into their cashflow forecast in order to measure, and ultimately improve, their profit margins.

      The attitude that once a digital product has been produced, the negligible cost of distribution means that any sale, whatever the price, is a bonus may be fine if making money is merely a hobby - but it fosters the notion that digital products have little intrinsic value once created. That's exactly the argument most often used by illegal downloaders.

      Have respect for your products - and for the affiliates working to sell them on your behalf.


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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        Tal,
        The seller did not have that sale before you joined so having a small percentage go to them from your purchase is OK and should not be cried on.
        Bull puckey.

        Go into a store and try to set your own price at the checkout. See how far that gets you. (Probably escorted out by security is my guess.)

        The fact that a product is digital is irrelevant. You don't get to set the terms. The fact that Clickbank allows this is a major reason that I use them so little. The fact that some merchants don't care doesn't mean it's okay with others.

        I'm done with this thread. Y'all can play at whatever you like, as far as making yourselves feel like you're not stealing if you do this. You are.


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  • Profile picture of the author Slin
    This is why I stay away from IM stuff on clickbank.

    I don't do it, but I know that people do, if they want to that's fine by me, if I want a product that badly I'll ask for a review copy.
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    • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
      Originally Posted by Slin View Post

      This is why I stay away from IM stuff on clickbank.

      I don't do it, but I know that people do, if they want to that's fine by me, if I want a product that badly I'll ask for a review copy.
      So the logic is instead of actually putting money in the pocket of the merchant and nudging his gravity up a smidge you think it's better to get it for free.

      Interesting...

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  • Profile picture of the author Texjd
    This subject comes up at least 2-3 times a year. It's all about personal opinion not right or wrong. When I agree to sell through clickbank, I'm agreeing to pay a commission on a purchase. If someone buys through their own link, I don't care since it's one more sale.

    That's my opinion, others differ. I haven't used clickbank for several years just so I don't have to add onto my price to compensate for a commission. That's just my own personal choice.

    If you sell on clickbank you agree to pay a commission on a sale through an affiliate link. That's the bottom line and who gets the commission doesn't matter in the long run anyway. If people ask, I give them a review copy too.

    It doesn't often happen unless you're in the IM niches. And I can understand why someone would get a little peeved at having 100 people buy through their own affiliate link but then again, that's life in the fast lane. You play the hand your dealt. Getting angry or upset about something you have no power to change, that's a waste of time and energy that can be focused elsewhere.

    Of course I never buy through my affiliate link anyway since I rarely buy a clickbank product anyway.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve MacLellan
      Originally Posted by Texjd View Post

      This subject comes up at least 2-3 times a year. It's all about personal opinion not right or wrong. When I agree to sell through clickbank, I'm agreeing to pay a commission on a purchase. If someone buys through their own link, I don't care since it's one more sale.
      I dis-agree. It *IS* about what it right and what is wrong. Buying through your own affiliate link is wrong. There isn't any gray area -- it's wrong!

      However, if you go to the merchants website and are intrigued with the product, there isn't any harm in emailing the author and telling them the size of your list and your interest in promoting the product. There is a good chance they will send you a copy to review without having to buy anything.

      Originally Posted by Texjd View Post

      I don't care since it's one more sale.
      I'd like to think there is more to the measure of a man , and that one more sale doesn't define him. I'd like to show my kids (someday) about how they might run a business on the Internet. I'd like to tell them to "play fair" (since I've always done it this way), and I'm not going to shame myself by showing them methods and marketing strategies that are on the *sneak* -- 'cause I want them to feel good about their business and teach good work/marketing ethics to them.

      You know what? I've got digital products on my computer written by folks like, Dr. Paul Hartunian, Bob Serling and Yanik Silver. I haven't looked at them. They were sent to me to add to their ordering systems for digital downloads (which I did) but I didn't pay for it so I didn't look at it.

      One of my clients thought he might be interested in a script Paul Meyer's was offering. I think it was being sold for around $300. I emailed Paul -- he sent me the entire (un crippled version) to install. Paul said, "If you don't want it, just delete it."

      Well... the client liked the script but decided to go in a different direction. So, I deleted it. Not only from the website, but from my hard-drive too.

      So perhaps there is a little confusion. Let me help you with that!

      The entrepreneur doesn't follow the money -- the money follows the entrepreneur. So the entrepreneur (knowing the money will follow) gets to decide how he/she will run their business.

      It isn't about *taking opportunities* it's about *giving opportunities*. As Yanik would say; " Make more money, have more fun, and give more back."

      Don't sell your soul for one more sale,

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      • Profile picture of the author A Bary
        Originally Posted by Steve MacLellan View Post

        I dis-agree. It *IS* about what it right and what is wrong. Buying through your own affiliate link is wrong. There isn't any gray area -- it's wrong!


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        And why -exactly- is it wrong???

        I don't really understand this argument:

        -For the merchant: he already agreed to pay the 50%-75% commission on every sale..

        What is the difference if the commission goes to me or to another affiliate?:confused:

        -For the other affiliates: Well, here's I know I will piss many people off...

        But let's put it this way...

        Most of the time, when I purchase an IM product, I either buy it through my link or the link of "few selected" names.. especially Micheal Rasmussen


        Why M.R.?

        Anyone on his list, knows that sometimes he come out with killer bonuses for product launches,

        He justifies for me the decision to buy through his link...

        Another affiliate I purchase from is the one who take the time to put a REAL review, through video or screenshots, that proves he/she used the product and can be trusted for expressing opinions about...

        But, for GOD sake, why am I obligated to buy through a link of someone who posts links here and there, or put a fake, lousy review to trick me??

        If the affiliate doesn't deliver a real value (especially in the IM niche), then he/she doesn't have the right to complain about me buying through my own link....


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        • Profile picture of the author A Bary
          Originally Posted by thobbs31 View Post

          I know that I could sign up and buy through my own link. However, I would personally consider this stealing. Actually, by definition, it is stealing.

          Tom
          It's really amazing how people can come with absolute facts!!!!!

          Can you plz explain why is it considered stealing?

          Wasn't it the merchant who put the commission value and the price?

          And by the way, for all those "innocents" who consider it stealing...

          Isn't it a common practice that the vendor put CB products prices with the commission cut in mind, so the final price is fair for them?

          i.e., when they sell a $67 with a $40 commission, they put this price structure knowing that the $27 final profit is fair for them...

          Again, I can't understand this whole argument:confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author thobbs31
    I know that I could sign up and buy through my own link. However, I would personally consider this stealing. Actually, by definition, it is stealing. IMO, this is what is so bad about the IM industry. Most are out to make the quick buck with the least amount of work. Quit trying to play the system. Buy only the things you think will help you. Sell only the things you think will help someone else. Gaming the system is what ruins the system.

    The people here, in this forum, will help you. Up until the time you rip them off. Just don't do it. Learn here, find the things that add value and buy them...at full price. Then, if they have helped you, it's OK to then be an affiliate and sell them. But don't ever try to sell a Chevy if you're a Ford or Toyota man/woman. Doing so is dishonest on my opinion.

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  • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
    I emailed clickbank about it and this is what they told me

    Thank you for your inquiry. Please be aware that while it is possible to use your own affiliate HopLink to purchase products from ClickBank, this is a practice that we discourage as it can lead to payment issues for your account.

    Please be aware of the Customer Distribution Requirement, which states states your account must reflect sales made with 5 or more different credit card numbers, and the sales must have been made with two different payment methods (either Visa, MasterCard, or PayPal). Note: PayPal purchases do not count toward the minimum 5 different credit card numbers.

    This requirement is in place to help prevent affiliates from abusing the ClickBank Affiliate Program by using their accounts for the sole purpose of collecting rebates and/or discounts on their own ClickBank purchases.

    You may review our accounting policies by following the link below:

    Accounting Policy - ClickBank


    Best regards,

    Shane
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    Help Center: ClickBank Help Center
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    • Profile picture of the author MarcusEJC
      Don't be so silly, of course you should buy through your own affiliate links!

      It's just another sale, where you just so happen to be both the affiliate and also the customer.

      Look out for yourself, and save yourself money wherever you can. I don't believe it's the severe issue some people seem to make out it is. Relax. The World's not going to suddenly come to an end just because you bought from your own affiliate link...
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  • Profile picture of the author Omar
    Basically CB said same as Paul. The affiliate sale should reward an affiliate for his efforts to promote a product. Affiliate links are for promoting product as affiiate, not getting a product for yourself at a cheaper price. The reason of buy it for testing and see if worth promoting is just a reason...
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    • Profile picture of the author MarcusEJC
      Originally Posted by Omar View Post

      Basically CB said same as Paul. The affiliate sale should reward an affiliate for his efforts to promote a product. Affiliate links are for promoting product as affiiate, not getting a product for yourself at a cheaper price. The reason of buy it for testing and see if worth promoting is just a reason...
      But Affiliate Marketing is a competitive business. Surely it's all about getting as many sales as you can, to increase earnings. If you want to buy something, and you don't buy it from yourself as your own customer, you're missing out on a very easy and obvious sale there.

      Why make it any more complicated than that?

      If you worry about buying from your own link, how far do you go down that road of trying to do everything strictly by the book? Do you avoid building Conduit style sites that catch other peoples traffic? What about PPC ads that people click on after a guru has spread the word about a product, as in the Guru Siphon system? What about if you spot a product that one affiliate is making a lot of sales from, and you want to promote it too? Are you going to send them to his afifliate link instead of your own?

      I think that those who make it in the this world, are not those who follow all the rules strictly. The successful are the ones who know which rules they can get away with bending, without technically breaking them. Think of big businesses who manipulate their taxes, etc.

      Buying from your own affiliate link is not stealing. You're not hacking into Clickbank's bank account and stealing their money. You're just doing a sneaky little trick which gets you a better deal.

      It's like if you worked at a computer store, and you wanted to buy something, and you felt guilty about using your staff discount. WHY???

      Or it's like if you had a friend who worked at a supply company who could legally get you something really cheap? Why not?

      Just chill out man, and take what you legally can...

      Because the people who are winning are taking everything they can too...
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    No, I buy from my friends affiliate links
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    I never buy through my own affiliate links if everyone did that everyone would be out a lot of money. Spread the wealth is my philosophy.
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    • Profile picture of the author Calvin Tan
      Yes I do that sometimes but I realise I wont get my commissions at the end of the day.

      Not sure how does clickbank allows me to buy through my affiliate links. Does anyone manages to get their check aft purchasing from own affiliate link?
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  • Profile picture of the author Dunder
    I have often wondered why Clickbank don't have a system in place to try and stop this happening.
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    Easy way to save money and improve on your stats! If it's not breaking the terms, then why not!
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  • Profile picture of the author donmccobb
    I cannot see any reason why you shouldn't buy through your affiliate link. You are promoting the affiliate's product, and you will do a better job of selling it if you have used it and understand it.

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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    This seems like a really dumb argument to me. And publishers that feel that you cheat them if you buy through your own link is pretty dumb. They end up with the same amount no matter whose affiliate link you buy through.

    If I own a store that sells widgets, I probably get them from a wholesale supply. so if I need a widget, do I go to a competitor to buy it, because it is unethical for me to buy from my own store? Is the manufacture of widgets being cheated because I bought my widget from my own store? It just seems so obvious to me that if I want something that I am selling or promoting, I would buy it from myself, for the wholesale price.
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      • Profile picture of the author theimdude
        All this moaning about nothing. Those claim it is stealing will quickly use a coupon to get discount when they hear about one from a buddy. What is the difference. Vendors should be grateful for people marketing there product and don't make out as if they don't need those marketing there products.

        If you don't like it and want to moan about it don't use systems that allow for commissions on anything if it will make you sleep better.

        Well at least when I save a few $$$ I sleep better and can use those $$$ to get more sales for for the vendor.
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  • Profile picture of the author davidluzsi
    I only buy through my own affiliate link if I want to review the product..
    Anyway, only buying through your own link is KILLING THE GAME...
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    • Profile picture of the author timpears
      Originally Posted by davidluzsi View Post

      I only buy through my own affiliate link if I want to review the product..
      Anyway, only buying through your own link is KILLING THE GAME...
      So if you are killing the game, why do you do it? I have no idea what you mean by that comment, but the reference if obviously negative. I would be interested in an explanation, so I understand where you are coming from. You are obviously misguided though, I can see no reason to buy from a competitor, including the publisher, when I am in the business of selling this and similar products.
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    I don't use or buy from click bank. I learned a long time ago that, for my personal taste , closed affiliate programs work better . They usually have longer cookies .

    As far as someone buying my products through their own link.... I could care less for the affiliate programs that allow it . I know I am getting x amount for each sale .

    In my closed affiliate offers ( which I run most of the time) you can't get a link unless you have already purchased or I have invited you , in which case , I have given you a copy anyway .
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  • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
    Originally Posted by ruch1v View Post

    So I'm not really on the clickbank scene (although am starting to get into it) and I was aware that its possible to purchase things through your own link and get discount, although I always thought that was a bit dodgy and black hat, however, recently in the forum I have read people mentioning that they regularly do this and advising others to do the same, infact I was on this Q and A call a few days back and the guy doing the call also suggested it.


    so basically my question are, do you do this?

    Is this seen to be common practice?


    Ruchi
    No I don't.

    As an affiliate marketer I don't want to put that energy out there and end up costing
    myself sales promoting other people's stuff.

    So I just pay full price through a naked link or the affiliate that introduced me to the product.

    It's bad karma.

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    • Profile picture of the author Calvin Tan
      Yes I agree, an affiliate will promote well if he had use the product before. I do not think that buying through own affiliate link is stealing, just like when you can have discount when you go shopping.

      I plan to buy new cb products through my affiliate again =)
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  • Profile picture of the author Rick Meza
    That's a personal decision really, but if it can save you some money hey, what the heck I dont see why not!!

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    • Profile picture of the author ozduc
      Originally Posted by Steve MacLellan View Post

      I dis-agree. It *IS* about what it right and what is wrong. Buying through your own affiliate link is wrong. There isn't any gray area -- it's wrong!
      I really can not understand how you have come to this conclusion. Although I do agree there isn't any gray area, as there is totally nothing wrong with doing it. If you are in the business of affiliate marketing, then buying a product with your own link is the same as if you owned a coffee shop and you buy a batch of coffee at wholesale to try it yourself to see if you would like to offer it to your customers. Heck even if you don't offer it to your customers but just keep it for yourself are you going to go to a retail store and pay full price? I don't think so.
      Anyone who puts a product on clickbank and then complains about affiliates buying through their own links should get out of the business of affiliate marketing. They have agreed to take XX% for their product regardless of who makes the sale.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnpetrov
    This is why I stay away from Iinternet Marketing stuff on clickbank.
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  • Profile picture of the author AFD
    It's case to case basis and yes, I am buying through my affiliate link... Either way, its a win-win situation for both parties.. no one is cheated..
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Moffatt
      If I have a product on Clickbank I pretty much assume people are going to buy through their own link.

      However, with my own in house affiliate program, I never pay a affiliate the commission if they bought via their own link. It's not fair to the people that did pay full price in my mind.
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      • Profile picture of the author MarcusEJC
        I think the key point raised here is:
        If you owned a coffee shop, and you got coffeee wholesale, would you buy coffee at retail price when you wanted to drink it yourself? No, of course you wouldn't.

        I think that the people who get up on their moral high horses are the affiliates who are promoting products in the IM niche, and they don't want to lose sales to other affiliates who buy from their own links.

        What it all boils down to, at the end of the day, is everyone is out for themselves. Everyone wants to save money or make money. So those who say that it is okay to buy from your own affiliate link, are those who are most interested in saving themselves money. And those who disagree and say "No, it's bad!" they are the affiliates who want to keep earning money from all the stupid affiliates who are too stupid or guilt-ridden to buy from their own links.

        And in that sense, the IM niche is a potentially hazardous one...

        But I really don't get the whole "It's wrong" kind of attitude. For the people who have that attitude, I wonder how many of them, hand on heart, could honestly declare that every single affiliate sale they have ever made, has been a product where the customer got the best deal?

        For example, take the weight-loss niche. These are people who are desperate. Why not earn money from desperate people, hey? But if the truth be known, many of these people could lose weight if they just went by the simple straightforward advice of "Just stop eating all that damn junk food and get off your lazy fat ass and do some exercise!"

        But I'll sell a weight loss ebook to someone, if they're willing to pay for it, just as I'll buy from my own affiliate link if I can get away with it.

        It's all the same ****.

        It's all just money and sales.

        Don't kid yourself that every penny you earn from affiliate marketing is you having your customers best interests at heart. You want the sales, that's all you want.

        It's all just money, whether it be saving money or earning money.

        So I say go for it. Sell to whoever you can, and buy from your own links whenever you can.
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        • Profile picture of the author MarcusEJC
          You want to be totally free of guilt and really "do the right thing"???

          Okay, then buy all these self-help ebooks full price yourself and then give them away free to all the desperate needy people who really need to be helped.

          See how far that gets you in affiliate marketing...

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          • Profile picture of the author Mark Matthews
            I agree with MarcusEJC. It seems to me those that view the purchase as stealing really are looking at it from the wrong stand point.

            It is not stealing it is extra money for the vendor it is still a sale. Any affiliates who want to buy my products are welcome to do so through their respective links. I earn more this way than giving out free review copies.

            Those who take the moral high ground are in my opinion being petty and small minded. I am surprised at this as to be successful in any business it helps to be a little bit more open, creative and broad minded.

            I run another business outside of IM marketing employing around 20 people, if I had the time to moralise about every penny that I didn't make, I would be as unsuccessful as my rivals.

            No concentrate on sales, I would rather give a discount or a commision to a referer and have the extra business. I have already in 2 years grown bigger than my competitors who have been in business for 12 years. Believe me I have met some of them and they concentrate on the small things.

            My advice is get on with it make sales, pay commisions and be positive. Growth and prosperity will follow.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Birch
    Yes, I have purchased via my own link before on one or two occassions. But only when it has been stated that its in order.

    However, I would much prefer to buy through someone elses link - when I have been after something that I wanted I have asked fellow warriors for a link to let them bebefit from the sale.
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