use Dragon naturally speaking.

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I'm entering this message via voice by speaking into a microphone using Dragon naturally speaking.

For those of you that hate writing or have carpal tunnel syndrome as one writer said he had in the previous thread, something like Dragon NaturallySpeaking is probably the way to go.

It really saves your hands and can be a great way to be more productive once you get used to the quirks of the software.

It's not perfect but it really can save you some time once you learn how to use it. I'm still learning how to use it.

Today I was able to use it to write up a list of goals that I want to achieve. It was nice to sit back and close my eyes and talk about my goals as I pictured them and know that what I was saying is being written down. As you can see by the last sentence it doesn't always get things perfectly correct. Ha ha.

It's good enough though and you can go back and do some light editing. I just wanted to say this because carpal tunnel syndrome or hating writing is not really a good excuse anymore. If you hate writing that much use software such as this and then take the document and have an editor fix-it.

Speaking into a microphone also has the added benefit of allowing you to type more words than you otherwise would. Those that need to write articles of a certain length will find it easy to write these articles and have the correct number of words or more. Look at this post. I usually don't say this much but because I have software that allows me to speak it instead of type it I'm saying a lot more.

This is not rocket science and it's nothing new to those who are experienced riders on shore. That should have been sure. Writers. Oh well like I said it's not perfect.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    I like the old Scott better. This version talks too damn much.

    Just kidding, man.

    John

    PS - I typed this with my fingers. See how short it is?
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    • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
      Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

      I like the old Scott better. This version talks too damn much.

      Just kidding, man.

      John

      PS - I typed this with my fingers. See how short it is?
      Ha ha.. yeah.. it does make me talk more, and a bit differently.
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      • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
        hey Scott,

        Practically every single thing I write online is written with Dragon NaturallySpeaking. I have trained it to the point that it is pretty much 99.9% accurate.

        Very rarely do I need to correct any type of errors. Usually when an error pops up it is because of my slang or slurred speech.

        Anyway, I am not going to touch this post I will just post it. Hopefully it is not going to make me look like an idiot and will be perfect.

        Talk soon,

        Shannon Herod
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        • Profile picture of the author tjmiller
          Originally Posted by thescribe View Post

          I love Dragon Naturally Speaking and use it often when I grow tired of typing. As far as cost, there is a scaled down 'Essentials' version that is much less expensive than the full version.
          Originally Posted by Lynette Crase View Post

          I am planning to get this program but can't make up my mind which version (essentials, standard or preferred) to get. Can anyone give me any thoughts on which version is best to get?

          Thanks
          Lynette
          Originally Posted by aboutusnow View Post

          ...Then I found Dragon online. Wanted to buy it but didn't until I found it at Walmart for $40. I took it home now knowing what to expect. Boy, was I surprised!...
          I have also been wondering about the different versions. I found a comparison matrix online (here.) It is for version 9, but 10 should be about the same. I also found a pdf selection cheat sheet. It covers standard, preferred, professional, medical or legal. What I cannot find is any feature comparison done with the essentials version.

          I am assuming the $40 Walmart version is essentials? Can anyone tell me how this compares to the standard version? What is lacking, and is it worth more than doubling the price to get the standard version?

          I am really wanting to get this, and the $40 price tag is very tempting, but only if it would still be an effective tool. I don't want to buy the cheap version, only to regret it later.

          One other question I have, and that has been mentioned by a couple of others. How exactly does the software handle accents? I know people have talked about British and other accents, but mine is very American... very SOUTHERN American. And believe me, we can slaughter the language at least as well as you Brits can!

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          • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
            Originally Posted by tjmiller View Post

            I have also been wondering about the different versions. I found a comparison matrix online (here.) It is for version 9, but 10 should be about the same. I also found a pdf selection cheat sheet. It covers standard, preferred, professional, medical or legal. What I cannot find is any feature comparison done with the essentials version.

            I am assuming the $40 Walmart version is essentials? Can anyone tell me how this compares to the standard version? What is lacking, and is it worth more than doubling the price to get the standard version?

            I am really wanting to get this, and the $40 price tag is very tempting, but only if it would still be an effective tool. I don't want to buy the cheap version, only to regret it later.

            One other question I have, and that has been mentioned by a couple of others. How exactly does the software handle accents? I know people have talked about British and other accents, but mine is very American... very SOUTHERN American. And believe me, we can slaughter the language at least as well as you Brits can!

            I am using Dragon NaturallySpeaking preferred 10. It seems to be everything I need.

            I have not ran into something I could not do yet. So, I would say that the preferred is definitely the way to go.

            I looked at the chart and there are things that I do currently that are on the standard edition. So, I would spring for the extra 40 or 50 bucks, or however much it is, and get the preferred edition.

            About your question referring to accents... well, I have a very American accent as well. It may not be very southern, but I do tend to slur my words and sometimes even skip over words.

            Dragon NaturallySpeaking does a very good job of figuring out exactly what it is I'm trying to say. Sometimes, it even dictates a little bit differently than what I spoke. But the cool thing about that is it actually dictated in proper English, When I was speaking in slang.

            Pretty cool stuff. But, to be completely honest I'm very impressed with Dragon NaturallySpeaking 10 and would highly recommend it to anyone that wanted to increase their productivity because of slow typing. Believe me, I am a hunt and peck typist. If it was not for Dragon NaturallySpeaking I would not be able to accomplish half of what I get done in a day.

            Plus, I would never use twitter because I hate to type :-) now that I have Dragon NaturallySpeaking I'm constantly sending out tweets. I think I'm over 7000 tweets now. I think I should be embarrassed by that not proud of it.

            talk soon,

            Shannon Herod
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  • I've been using it for years, mostly with spreadsheets.

    But it can be difficult to train your mind to speak in words and punctuation as opposed to the way you think when you type.

    There is some re-learning which takes place.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    Welcome to the dark side. Version 10 Standard is extremely accurate and I love it.

    Here's something else I do.

    I talk into my iPhone. I transfer the file to my PC and play it on the speaker. Then I point the mic at the speaker while running DNS. Saves tons of cash on transcription.
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    • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
      Originally Posted by BlueSquares View Post

      Welcome to the dark side. Version 10 Standard is extremely accurate and I love it.

      Here's something else I do.

      I talk into my iPhone. I transfer the file to my PC and play it on the speaker. Then I point the mic at the speaker while running DNS. Saves tons of cash on transcription.
      Wow that's an excellent idea.

      For those that can't or won't pay for Dragon, you can "sort of" do the same thing with Google Voice. Just call yourself and leave a message and it will email you a transcribed version. I don't know what the limit is as far as length is.
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    • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
      Originally Posted by BlueSquares View Post


      I talk into my iPhone. I transfer the file to my PC and play it on the speaker. Then I point the mic at the speaker while running DNS. Saves tons of cash on transcription.
      Why not just transfer the file and then let DNS transcribe it directly from the file rather than play it through the speaker into the mic?
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      • Profile picture of the author adamv
        Originally Posted by mojojuju View Post

        Why not just transfer the file and then let DNS transcribe it directly from the file rather than play it through the speaker into the mic?
        That works with the preferred edition. If you're using DNS standard that would not be an option.
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        • Profile picture of the author LadyL08
          Microsoft Vista comes with speech recognition which I have found is more accurate than DNS for me.

          I also have found that I talk different than I write. I seem to have a clearer and more fluid thought process when I type. I find myself hesitating alot when I use speech recognition. I guess there is more than just articulation training involved. I do love how I can fold my hands and just talk.

          I ran into a customer service problem with my Dragon. My computer crashed and I had to reload. DNS has a counter on the software and it said I had already installed it and couldn't install it again. I have to pay $20 to sign up for support so that I can ask them if they can give me a 'backdoor' so I can re-install my software. Ugh
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          • Profile picture of the author adamv
            Originally Posted by LadyL08 View Post

            Microsoft Vista comes with speech recognition which I have found is more accurate than DNS for me.
            I'm glad you're having good results with the speech recognition that comes with vista but I had the exact opposite experience. It could barely get anything right for me. I had DNS 9 and now I'm using DNS 10 Preferred because when I bought a new computer DNS 9 would not work on it.

            I'm a big, big fan of Dragon Naturally Speaking and I'll be using it until they come out with some kind of mind reading software where I don't even have to talk.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    When the program enters things like "riders" instead of "writers" is it because you are not pronouncing your words clearly enough?

    What are the "quirks" you are talking about that take some getting used to?
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    • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      When the program enters things like "riders" instead of "writers" is it because you are not pronouncing your words clearly enough?

      What are the "quirks" you are talking about that take some getting used to?
      Yeah.. I think so. I have a bit of a cold today. It does train on your voice when you first get it. I'll have to read up on continued training. As an example I wanted to say an unusual name but it had no idea what I was saying. I'll have to read how to enter new words and train it better.

      The funny thing is... when I wanted to say "riders" it kept putting in writers. I wanted to say... see how it entered the word "riders" instead of "writers" and it keep typing "See how it entered the word "writers".."

      I know there is a way to train it. There must be a way to do quotes, etc. I'm still learning really.
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      • Profile picture of the author Johnathan
        Originally Posted by Scott Ames View Post

        Yeah.. I think so. I have a bit of a cold today. It does train on your voice when you first get it. I'll have to read up on continued training. As an example I wanted to say an unusual name but it had no idea what I was saying. I'll have to read how to enter new words and train it better.

        The funny thing is... when I wanted to say "riders" it kept putting in writers. I wanted to say... see how it entered the word "riders" instead of "writers" and it keep typing "See how it entered the word "writers".."

        I know there is a way to train it. There must be a way to do quotes, etc. I'm still learning really.
        Hi Scott, I take it you got my report?

        Yes, DNS is good software.
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  • Profile picture of the author RNMKR
    I would probably use it simply because I type sooooooooo slow.
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  • Profile picture of the author thescribe
    I love Dragon Naturally Speaking and use it often when I grow tired of typing. As far as cost, there is a scaled down 'Essentials' version that is much less expensive than the full version.
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    • Profile picture of the author adamv
      I love Dragon Naturally Speaking and use it nearly every day. Not only does it greatly increase the speed at which I can finish an article but it's also fun to use. I like being able to talk to my computer and have it type everything up for me.

      It's not perfect but neither is my typing. I can get through an article very quickly and then proof read, correct a couple mistakes, and I'm done. I love this software.
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      • Profile picture of the author Lawrh
        I've found that the best way to use DNS10 is to remember the middle letter stands for Naturally. If I attempt to enunciate clearly or speak slowly the results are awful. Speaking at normal speed or even a little fast works far better.

        The reason, I believe, is that DNS performs some form of contextual analysis. Meaning that the more you put in the buffer the better the analysis and the better your results.

        Some words it just won't do when I try too hard to make it understand come out perfectly in a longer sentence.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeanSupplee
    Awesome picked up DNS myself a few months ago and have been article marketing like crazy with it. However only bad thing is i write differently then I talk for some reason. I know weird but I am sure all of you know what I am talking about lol.

    It's a great program though that is for sure and very accurate.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
    I got version 10 a couple of days ago, and my production rate has already tripled. No longer do I fear getting that project done...

    Reports, eBooks, transcriptions, sales copy, emails, articles...all fly out the door super fast.

    It's scary how accurate it is too, even when you mumble! I'd say the 99% accuracy claims are matching up for me right now.

    I find it best to pause and think about each sentence, instead of trying to reel off words for the sake of it. You can always edit, but waffling can be overkill when transcribed.
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  • Profile picture of the author VilPietersen@
    So this DNS program, would it work for someone like me who is from the UK. I know we invented the language but we sure know how to abuse it too!
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    • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
      Originally Posted by VilPietersen@ View Post

      So this DNS program, would it work for someone like me who is from the UK. I know we invented the language but we sure know how to abuse it too!
      Ha ha.. I think it would. I'll try talking British English into it and see what happens. Now if you are a cab driver from Belfast I don't think it would work
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    • Profile picture of the author satrap
      Originally Posted by VilPietersen@ View Post

      So this DNS program, would it work for someone like me who is from the UK. I know we invented the language but we sure know how to abuse it too!
      I haven't used it, but I was looking into it while back and since I am an Iranian-American and have a pretty OBVIOUS accent, I was wondering if it would work. From what I red on the sales page(...?) it can work with any accent even heavy ones. I guess the idea is the more you work with it the better it gets to know your vocabulary and the rest.
      Now, since I havent used it, I dont know if does what it claims to do. Anybody with acccent using it? or any user who can fake accent ever tried to see if it works?
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    I have used DNS on and off recently, and I'm still trying to get used to it. I don't deny that it's much faster than typing (even if you're an accomplished typist who does 80-100+ wpm, which I can do). I still find it a bit strange to speak slowly and enunciate everything artificially (to make sure DNS "gets" what you're saying), and there is also the slight delay while you wait for the words to appear on the screen. I know you can go on speaking, but I am so used to seeing my words on the screen before going on (when you're a touch typist this almost becomes an instinct), that it slows me down when using DNS. I guess I have to unlearn the habits I've developed from touch typing - it's a very different experience and you definitely have to use DNS for quite a while before you can get used to the differences, you have to "unlearn" what you already know.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ralf Skirr
      I treid V8 a while ago and had to much spell checking to do. But I'm sure V10 is much better now. I'll give it a try. Hopefully they have an upgrade path from 8.

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      • Profile picture of the author John_
        DNS 10 is expensive but really nice and very accurate.

        Probably my favourite piece of softare after MS Words, that can be opened and used with DNS... I don't like DNS's integrated notepad too much...:rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
          Originally Posted by John_ View Post

          DNS 10 is expensive but really nice and very accurate.

          Probably my favourite piece of softare after MS Words, that can be opened and used with DNS... I don't like DNS's integrated notepad too much...:rolleyes:
          Use Shopzilla.com, you should be able to find a copy for far less than the retail price. Also check with your local electronic stores, they sometimes have it for sale.

          Btw, DNS 10 freaking rocks! It's way better than 8.0.

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    • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      I know you can go on speaking, but I am so used to seeing my words on the screen before going on (when you're a touch typist this almost becomes an instinct), that it slows me down when using DNS.
      I know exactly what you mean and I find it distracting that I'm talking and then seeing everything I say printed on the screen.

      What I do to avoid this distraction is simply avoid looking at the window as my words are being transcribed. Sometimes, I'll just get away from my computer all together and just dictate into a portable recording device, and later, I'll just copy the recording to my computer later to have Dragon transcribe it when I've finished speaking.
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  • Profile picture of the author danalingga
    yeah -- i hear this is a good speech recognition software but i still want to improve my typing skill.
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  • Profile picture of the author LenD
    Originally Posted by Scott Ames View Post

    I'm entering this message via voice by speaking into a microphone using Dragon naturally speaking.
    I broke my finger today. maybe it's time to give DNS a shot. I've been looking for an excuse to try it, but wasn't planning on this excuse.
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  • Profile picture of the author uzomaeze
    this is really a good stuff, used to use one old software in the past it wasn't totally perfect I tried it out on a blog 3 years back, this dragon thing is it an open source or something?
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  • Profile picture of the author JBorhez
    Thanks for this DNS discussion.

    I just got done spending waaaaaay too much time writing an article. I've been wondering about this software for some time now so this was a wonderful thread to come across.

    I will definitely try DNS ASAP!

    Thanks Scott for sharing......and for the real world example.
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      Ha Len!
      That kinda sucks, heal soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    @mojojuju - I suppose I have the opposite problem. I find it really distracting when I don't see the words I dictate appear on the screen right away, my thoughts get scrambled and scattered when this happens. I've grown so used to my input (typing) show up as output (screen) immediately that I end up feeling very disorganized and disjointed dictating things into DNS.

    I think I may try using a portable recording device to see how it works out. I guess the point that I'm trying to make is that it seems to me (at least for right now) that the text I dictate is going to end up being different in organization and style as compared to my typed text. I do wonder though if my dictated speech using DNS will end up being more informal and "chatty", not necessarily a bad thing especially when writing short articles for submission to the article directories.
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  • Profile picture of the author Forest_Parks
    I have a slightly older version of MacSpeech for the Mac, which uses the Dragon Engine.... It's pretty decent but I don't have a great Microphone and have not sat down to use it enough.... This thread has made me think about reopening the thing....
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  • Profile picture of the author WiseWebWords
    I have found this a really interesting thread - and as so many warriors seem to be using voice recognition software - think I'll give it a try to speed up my input!! DNS seems to be the go.
    thanks for the insights
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  • Profile picture of the author George Wright
    Hi Scott, This is George, right. I'm entering this tax using my cellphone and Google Voice. This is a pretty good alternatives to. Dragon naturally speaking the way I did this is. I called my google voice number and I recorded a message. The message has been sent to my email address and I copied and pasted the email address into this post. I know with your Greg in naturally speaking, it's probably went directly to the post but this is a day. Work around for those who don't have dragon George, right.

    Hi Scott,

    Above is the unedited voice mail I left myself at my google voice account. As you can see it needs a little editing but It's a great workaround if one doesn't have Dragon.

    In 3 minutes I can write a 400+ word article. It takes another 5 to 10 minutes to edit.

    As time passes I get better and my editing gets faster. I know I'll get it down to 3 minutes to write and 3 minutes to edit in time. In my testing it I think there is a 5 minute limit, however it's no problem to call back and continue. For articles 5 minutes is more than enough. You could write an entire ebook this way.

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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Tracey
    this is also being typed directly into the forum using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. I have version 9.5 preferred.
    I use Dragon almost exclusively in place of typing due to the fact that I have what is called intention tremor. This means that sometimes my hands shake so much that even to think of typing is a no-no.

    I also use Dragon to open and close files and to do some of the navigation around the Internet. I tried using the which recognition software that comes with Microsoft Office and I even said it was great, this was before I got my hands on Dragon, in my opinion, there is absolutely no comparison between the two.

    If there is a mistake doing the correction is easy even if it is a word that is not in Dragons vocabulary, for instance a surname you just spell the word for Dragon and then pronounce it and the next time you use that particular word and will recognize that and use it for you.

    Michael.
    PS. The above was written without any correction so if there are words that sound strange and out of place or spelt incorrectly blame me not dragon.
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    • Profile picture of the author George Wright
      Hi Michael,

      I never thought about spelling surnames (note in Google Voice Wright is right) So I called back and this is what I got...

      Hi Scott, This is George W. R. I. G H T

      O well. LOL

      George Wright right W. R. I. G H T

      Originally Posted by Michael Tracey View Post

      this is also being typed directly into the forum using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. I have version 9.5 preferred.
      I use Dragon almost exclusively in place of typing due to the fact that I have what is called intention tremor. This means that sometimes my hands shake so much that even to think of typing is a no-no.

      I also use Dragon to open and close files and to do some of the navigation around the Internet. I tried using the which recognition software that comes with Microsoft Office and I even said it was great, this was before I got my hands on Dragon, in my opinion, there is absolutely no comparison between the two.

      If there is a mistake doing the correction is easy even if it is a word that is not in Dragons vocabulary, for instance a surname you just spell the word for Dragon and then pronounce it and the next time you use that particular word and will recognize that and use it for you.

      Michael.
      PS. The above was written without any correction so if there are words that sound strange and out of place or spelt incorrectly blame me not dragon.
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  • Profile picture of the author Arun Pal Singh
    I am so used to writing that I have never considered alternatives. But I am definitely pondering over it.

    Thanks for suggestion Scott.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    I've heard that DNS runs much faster when you're running it on a really powerful quad core machine (i.e. the new intel i5 and i7 chips), perhaps with a powerful machine like that the lag will be eliminated, or at least reduced considerably.
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    • Profile picture of the author adamv
      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      I've heard that DNS runs much faster when you're running it on a really powerful quad core machine (i.e. the new intel i5 and i7 chips), perhaps with a powerful machine like that the lag will be eliminated, or at least reduced considerably.
      I have an intel Core 2 Duo processor and it works very fast for me. There is very little lag time.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Adam, I run a dual core processor myself, but I guess I must be very sensitive to lag. I want the words to appear the moment I input them via speech, just as fast as it would happen with something that I typed on the keyboard. For some reason even a slight lag really drives me crazy!


        Originally Posted by adamv View Post

        I have an intel Core 2 Duo processor and it works very fast for me. There is very little lag time.
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  • Profile picture of the author nyrsimon
    I also use the voice recognition that comes with Vista - it is amazing. Although I am British and I have to speak "American" e.g. dance, pasta etc (if you don't know what I mean listen to a British guy say dance!!!!)

    I also have found if I speak a whole sentence at it, the accuarcy goes through the roof, I guess it does some context matching in there....

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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Gosse
    I use MacSpeech which runs on the Dragon Naturally Speaking engine.

    I bought it in the beginning of December and my productivity has increased dramatically as has the length of my writing. I'm the type of person who usually hates to type.

    There was a time when dictation software was not usable, that time has passed.

    Great thread! I dictated the whole response :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Tyler Pratt
    for mac users I use macspeech, works great. And for the ipod/iphone users there is a Dragon dictate app that is free. That one works great.
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  • Profile picture of the author xlfutur1
    I have used DNS for a couple years now and after using it for awhile I'm amazed at how accurate it has become. So if you find it somewhat inaccurate at first, just give it some time and it will soon be extremely accurate. Make sure you have a good mic, that helps. I was using a terrible microphone when I first got it and I'm sure that added to the inaccuracy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lynette Crase
    I am planning to get this program but can't make up my mind which version (essentials, standard or preferred) to get. Can anyone give me any thoughts on which version is best to get?

    Thanks
    Lynette
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    • Profile picture of the author BelindaMooney
      I, too, use the speech recognition software thay comes with Vista. It works pretty good. My problem is I am used to typing and "thinking" with my fingers lol.. anyone know what I mean?

      I find when I speak the article I get "Stuck" with my thoughts some times. I haven't used the software in awhile but should for rewriting some of my articles. Kids brok my mic though so I guess I need to break down and get a new one

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    • Profile picture of the author macknox
      I'm using version 10 preferred.
      Works great with Microsoft headset USB LX3000.
      It has noise reduction.
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  • Profile picture of the author abelacts
    Have heard many good things about DNS but I haven't got the chance to try it out yet. Your post has convinced me more what this software can do... gotta try it!
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    • Profile picture of the author aboutusnow
      I had been using Microsoft Word 2002 speech recognition software to write articles. It was OK, but I spent as much time editing as I would have spent writing the article in the first place.

      Then I found Dragon online. Wanted to buy it but didn't until I found it at Walmart for $40. I took it home now knowing what to expect. Boy, was I surprised!

      It is about 90% accurate if you talk normally, 99% accurate if you slow down and enunciate properly. The thing that I like is that if it is interpreting a word incorrectly, you can highlight that word and record yourself saying it. It gets it right every time after that!

      I can now write 500-word articles in about 8 minutes if I know the subject and don't have to do any research. That is about 7 articles an hour if I am in a good rhythm!
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  • Profile picture of the author lukedidit
    Thanks for bumping this thread up. I had never thought of using speech recognition for writing articles, ebooks, blog posts. I can see how this can be a real productivity boost.

    Does anyone know if the windows 7 (included with OS) speech rec is any good?

    It would save the $100 price for dragon

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Set-up-Speech-Recognition
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