Hiring Article Writers - A Few Tips

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You've discovered the need for content but you hate writing, don't have time for writing, want to do other things, anything but writing.

First you need to determine what are the purpose of the articles you need.

Are they to be submitted to an article directory, if so which ones and what are the standards set by the directory?

Are they purely for backlinks and fodder for the search engines?

Then you need to determine what your budget is. There is no point in asking a person who charges more than you're willing to pay to write for you.

You also need to look at what the term quality really means.

I've seen many people saying an article is quality, and nothing could be further from the truth.

But, the reality is simple ... quality is in the eye of the buyer.

They know the standards they have, and anything below that standard isn't quality to them.

What you have to remember, you will not get a Stephen King quality writing for $1 an article.

You might find someone who is good who charges low prices, but that is totally different.

Where do you go to get articles?

Again it depends on your budget and needs.

Check our the warrior for hire or WSO for your first stop.

Then go to the freelance sites.

Hint you might even try google to find some websites.

Do you need something outside of the norm for your articles, then just tell the person you hire what you want.

You need to know your budget and work from there. If you don't have a budget then the easy answer is to write yourself.

Bev
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  • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
    You need to know your budget and work from there. If you don't have a budget then the easy answer is to write yourself.
    Hi Bev,

    Nice tips

    Just to add, for those who can't afford to outsource their
    articles yet, don't go for the extremely cheap ones. Most
    of the time you'll be better off writing it yourself until you're
    earning enough to pay for it..

    I know not everybody is a born writer but it's a skill that
    can be learned. If you don't have an idea how to start
    just look for article templates and read a lot.

    One thing I learned earlier is that if you're having a hard
    time writing then just think of a single issue or topic.

    Then decide whether you are for or against it, and then
    list about 3 reasons why, then discuss those reasons
    and before you know it, you've got yourself a decent
    article..

    All the best,
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  • Profile picture of the author Arun Pal Singh
    Good article writers are expensive. Better ones are more expensive. I find it best to write my own article.

    Outsource the thing with a budget to afford good article writers. Do not plan your things based on cheap quotes
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    • Profile picture of the author webmasterphi
      Originally Posted by Arun Pal Singh View Post

      Good article writers are expensive. Better ones are more expensive. I find it best to write my own article.

      Outsource the thing with a budget to afford good article writers. Do not plan your things based on cheap quotes
      i somehow agrees with him... if you're longing for much higher quality articles then it will be best to write your own articles... because if you will just look for cheap article writing services then expect low quality also on output because no one will do his/her best for free...
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    When Bev speaks on this subject, take copious notes.

    I'll just add that every IM'er who doesn't outsource needs to learn to do quick, effective rewrites. You'll eventually use PLR. You'll want to repurpose your own content. It'll come up, trust me. Being able to rewrite something in a few minutes will serve you very well over the years.

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author Vanquish
      Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

      When Bev speaks on this subject, take copious notes.

      I'll just add that every IM'er who doesn't outsource needs to learn to do quick, effective rewrites. You'll eventually use PLR. You'll want to repurpose your own content. It'll come up, trust me. Being able to rewrite something in a few minutes will serve you very well over the years.

      John
      Any tips for quick re writes? I heard something like articles need to be 80% unique to pass the ezine rewrite filter so you are better off writing a new one.
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      • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
        Originally Posted by Vanquish View Post

        Any tips for quick re writes? I heard something like articles need to be 80% unique to pass the ezine rewrite filter so you are better off writing a new one.
        In general, the key to doing effective and quick rewrites is in not trying to do too much. With practice, you can train yourself to avoid getting hung up on every word in the document you're rewriting. That's a speed killer and a trip to 'burnoutville.' I can't really get into it any deeper than that here, but at its root, that's the real key to rewriting.

        John
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        • Profile picture of the author Raydal
          Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

          Well I sell a guide on doing fast rewrites, so I can't really give anything specific away that's in that guide... wouldn't be fair to the few hundred Warriors who have bought it.

          John
          You should have saved us this ad for your guide as well. Why tell us
          you are not going to break a 'rule' by breaking one?

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          • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
            Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

            You should have saved us this ad for your guide as well. Why tell us
            you are not going to break a 'rule' by breaking one?

            -Ray Edwards
            You're right. Shame on me. Post edited. Consider me duly chagrined.
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            • Profile picture of the author Raydal
              Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

              You're right. Shame on me. Post edited. Consider me duly chagrined.

              You have a lot of character seldom seen here on this forum.

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  • Profile picture of the author Marksv
    Great list of tips!

    I would definitely reccomend that you start by writing at least 50 articles on your own, and learn how to do it well.

    This way you'll know what you want for your articles, and be able to properly distinguish the good from the bad...

    I can also definitely see the benefit of learning how to quickly rewrite articles... I'm just checking out your wso page Zeus, looks interesting...
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      It helps to shop around too. In some cases, you might even find someone locally.

      In my case, I've found I can get quality writers out of state for far less than lesser writers locally.

      Which means that some people may be able to find a quality writer locally for less than someone out of state.
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      • Profile picture of the author DaveHughes
        And one other point...if you are going to outsource your writing...

        COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR WRITER.

        "I need 10 articles" is fine if all you care about is ten document files of a certain word count, but if you have specific things in mind regarding content, tone or style, let them know up front.

        Otherwise, you'll wind up not getting what you were looking for, brand the writer in your mind as "not good enough" and keep looking...when you might have had the perfect fit all along, if they had known what you wanted.

        Writers are creative, resourceful researchers and literate..."psychic" hasn't made the skill list yet.
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        • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
          Originally Posted by DaveHughes View Post


          Writers are creative, resourceful researchers and literate..."psychic" hasn't made the skill list yet.
          What a great USP -- the "Psychic Writer" -- just send payment, think of your articles and watch them magically appear in your inbox three days later!

          Cheers,
          Becky

          ETA: Good tips, Bev.

          Let me throw in another tip: People hiring article writers should be prepared to answer questions about their target market. Specifically, who's reading the article, and what do you want them to do when they've finished reading the article?
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        • Profile picture of the author MurphSmurf
          I'm an article writer and I agree with all of the advice shared in this thread. Pay less, expect less. It's pretty simple.

          I hate to say it but a lot of writers call their work "quality" when it's really not. If they're only charging you $3, I guess it doesn't matter too much, but if you're paying $10+ per article, you better make sure that the writing at least has decent spelling / grammar and flows smoothly.

          Originally Posted by DaveHughes View Post

          And one other point...if you are going to outsource your writing...

          COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR WRITER.

          "I need 10 articles" is fine if all you care about is ten document files of a certain word count, but if you have specific things in mind regarding content, tone or style, let them know up front.

          Otherwise, you'll wind up not getting what you were looking for, brand the writer in your mind as "not good enough" and keep looking...when you might have had the perfect fit all along, if they had known what you wanted.

          Writers are creative, resourceful researchers and literate..."psychic" hasn't made the skill list yet.
          I absolutely agree with this. Nothing is more frustrating than being asked "write 10 articles about dogs" or "write about money".

          Can we maybe be a little more specific please?
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          • Profile picture of the author fitz10
            Originally Posted by MurphSmurf View Post

            I absolutely agree with this. Nothing is more frustrating than being asked "write 10 articles about dogs" or "write about money".

            Can we maybe be a little more specific please?
            I absolutely agree. You will get a higher quality article if you tell the writer what you expect in terms of content, tone, etc. It is a hassle when a client makes too many guidelines, but I think too few guidelines may in fact be worse!
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  • Profile picture of the author ocon9316
    Since he was mentioned in the OP, I'll add to this list by quoting Stephen King...

    "If you don't have the time to read, you have neither the time nor the tools to write."

    This is %100 true. Good writing comes from practice (obviously) and also from READING. Read other (quality) articles, read the newspaper, read books, read, read, read. You don't necessarily have to take notes on what you are reading, but you will find that the more you read the more you are able to write things that just seem to "flow" out of you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    I took this from Vince Runza, and I know it isn't the exact quote, but it's the quote I used when interviewed about ghostwriting.

    I'm a ghost writer not a ghost thinker.

    Don't tell me what you want, and you won't be surprised if we don't hit exactly the right note.

    Imagine for a moment, an orchestra playing one of the Classical Musics, and then for a single moment, someone plays an A instead of a B. Imagine the disharmony as the wrong note is struck. Imagine it coming out as a Flat or a Sharp of the original note. It sounds terrible, people hear it and wonder what happened.

    The reality was the musician wasn't following the score, because they thought they knew the piece. They spoiled the whole performance because they didn't use the music.

    The same thing can happen when a client doesn't give a brief or give a good brief, and then complains when the writer only writes for the brief given not the hidden things which the buyer wants.
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    • Profile picture of the author summer07
      Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

      You've discovered the need for content but you hate writing, don't have time for writing, want to do other things, anything but writing.

      First you need to determine what are the purpose of the articles you need.

      Are they to be submitted to an article directory, if so which ones and what are the standards set by the directory?

      Are they purely for backlinks and fodder for the search engines?

      Then you need to determine what your budget is. There is no point in asking a person who charges more than you're willing to pay to write for you.

      You also need to look at what the term quality really means....

      Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

      ...Let me throw in another tip: People hiring article writers should be prepared to answer questions about their target market. Specifically, who's reading the article, and what do you want them to do when they've finished reading the article?
      Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

      I took this from Vince Runza, and I know it isn't the exact quote, but it's the quote I used when interviewed about ghostwriting.

      I'm a ghost writer not a ghost thinker.

      Don't tell me what you want, and you won't be surprised if we don't hit exactly the right note....

      ...The same thing can happen when a client doesn't give a brief or give a good brief, and then complains when the writer only writes for the brief given not the hidden things which the buyer wants.
      Agreed...one way article buyers can tell if they're buying articles from an experienced writer is that the writer will ask them questions.

      I also ask to see the website they're going to promote or be posted on. Sometimes that gives me more information about the target market than the article buyer is aware of and able to deliver.

      Thanks for this post, Bev. Could you possibly turn it into a series on how to hire writers?

      Cheers,

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  • Profile picture of the author freudianslip27
    I've blown some money on subpar article writing. The best thing you can do is just get out there and try some services. Don't give any one writer or company too much business until you find one that offers a good service. Then you can start scaling up from there.

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    • Profile picture of the author XRay
      Originally Posted by freudianslip27 View Post

      I've blown some money on subpar article writing. The best thing you can do is just get out there and try some services. Don't give any one writer or company too much business until you find one that offers a good service. Then you can start scaling up from there.

      Matt
      Yes. There's going to be a certain amount of trial & error in finding/working with writers who can meet your quality standards at prices you can afford. And since Marvin the Mindreader got out of the article writing biz ages ago, you're going to need to develop a project template that you can use to CLEARLY convey what you need.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tools For IM
    Article writing services are generally hit or miss. What's difficult with buying articles in this fashion is marketers are turning what really is a careful craft into a commodity.

    Certainly, some topics lend themselves to mass article creation. Others, however, sometimes require an expert touch. I've always been fortunate enough to have access to some smart, talented individuals who don't mind sharing their expertise for certain projects.

    Here's an effective strategy that has worked wonders for me:
    1. Interview an expert (over the phone, e-mail, etc.) with specific questions that would make good article content
    2. Transcribe it or outsource the transcription
    3. Hire a writer to editorialize the content, adding in further information, statistics, etc.

    Using this method, I've escaped the run of the mill content you'd normally get produced by a writer without the unique knowledge required in favor of more specific pieces with a voice of authority.
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  • Profile picture of the author HayleyWriter
    Experienced and professional writers do not sell $1 articles. Creating an article that suits the target audience is a craft and a skill that is often misunderstood. As Audre said, the best writers will ask the questions about the audience and will COMMUNICATE with the customer about what is wanted.

    Communication is the key to getting what you want in your articles. Explain to your writer what you want the article to achieve, what keywords you are using to drive traffic to your site, and expect the writing process to take a little bit of TIME. Although I can whip out an article in 15 minutes if I know the topic really well, it probably won't suit the target audience. It takes a good hour at least to write a professional article that is high quality. And no one I know personally can afford to work for $1 an hour! I can't.

    If you outsource your writing - find a professional and pay them as such. You will reap the rewards by the high quality writing that suits your exact needs. Make sure you write a good brief for your writer and explain exactly what you are looking for. Writing is a skill that many can learn the basics of, but few take the time to perfect the craft.

    Make high demands on the writer on the professionalism front by all means and expect the best, but be prepared to pay for the writer as you would for any other professional. Would you work for less than $5 an hour in all honesty? I do not know why people think writers should!
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Fullman
    Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post


    What you have to remember, you will not get a Stephen King quality writing for $1 an article.


    Bev
    Bev,

    I kid you not...

    ...but I did ONCE hire a ghostwriter called Stephen King to write me some articles...the name won me over ...although he was chargin' a "mean" 5 bucks per article, lol.

    Sadly, he was no Stephen King!

    Lesson learned: I should've gone with James Herbert...



    Hope all's well, Bev!

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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      The time to tell the writer what style or formatting you need is before the articles are written.

      If you tell me you want 600 words on a certain subject and keyword phrase and then after the articles are done tell me "I really wanted them formatted in section like this"....I'll tell you that's fine and next time I'll do them that way

      It is simple really. If you clearly say what you need, and hire a writer you can afford that keeps you informed on the project - it's an easy process. It doesn't have to be difficult or disappointing and it shouldn't be.

      Just remember there's a very fine line between psychic and psycho....

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    • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
      Steven,

      That was funny, and serves you right thinking Stephen King would write for you :p

      I'm well thanks, how about you?

      Originally Posted by Steven Fullman View Post

      Bev,

      I kid you not...

      ...but I did ONCE hire a ghostwriter called Stephen King to write me some articles...the name won me over ...although he was chargin' a "mean" 5 bucks per article, lol.

      Sadly, he was no Stephen King!

      Lesson learned: I should've gone with James Herbert...



      Hope all's well, Bev!

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author sellerscompanion
    I agree with many of the posters here. As a writer, I want to know what "slant" you want me to take with your articles. It helps a lot in the writing process.

    I have also found that the people who want someone to write for $1-$2 per article are more demanding than those who realize that quality content is not produced by paying someone less than minimum wage. Just as you would not think the guy flipped burgers at McDonald's could write a quality article for you, neither should you assume that I will!

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  • Profile picture of the author Odhinn
    I send a few examples of what I consider to be well made content to my writers beforehand and tell my writer to attempt to emulate what that writer had done in terms of amount of information, tone, structure, or whatever it is that I liked about a particular article.
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  • Profile picture of the author juzanobo
    Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

    You've discovered the need for content but you hate writing, don't have time for writing, want to do other things, anything but writing.

    First you need to determine what are the purpose of the articles you need.

    Are they to be submitted to an article directory, if so which ones and what are the standards set by the directory?

    Are they purely for backlinks and fodder for the search engines?

    Then you need to determine what your budget is. There is no point in asking a person who charges more than you're willing to pay to write for you.

    You also need to look at what the term quality really means.

    I've seen many people saying an article is quality, and nothing could be further from the truth.

    But, the reality is simple ... quality is in the eye of the buyer.

    They know the standards they have, and anything below that standard isn't quality to them.

    What you have to remember, you will not get a Stephen King quality writing for $1 an article.

    You might find someone who is good who charges low prices, but that is totally different.

    Where do you go to get articles?

    Again it depends on your budget and needs.

    Check our the warrior for hire or WSO for your first stop.

    Then go to the freelance sites.

    Hint you might even try google to find some websites.

    Do you need something outside of the norm for your articles, then just tell the person you hire what you want.

    You need to know your budget and work from there. If you don't have a budget then the easy answer is to write yourself.

    Bev
    Beside from these, you should also consider how reliable your article source. Can they supply your article needs and deliver them on time??
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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    I always send my clients questions to find exactly what they are looking for.

    Knowing the target market is important, knowing the voice the client needs is also important.

    The more money a person has to spend, often means they have spent a lot of time working out exactly what they need.

    Bev
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  • Profile picture of the author BigHef
    One thing that hasn't been mentioned here is providing feedback to your writer - after the articles have been written.

    One client I have is especially good at that point - and the result is the next batch of articles he receives from me are exactly what he wants.

    It's simple enough to do - but for some reason it is very, very rare.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    I disagree that a buyer needs to give all the information for the writer to work with. Now, before you all jump down my throat, follow what I'm about to say.

    I've had people saying, will you write articles on [fill in a niche] and how much will you charge for 10 articles.

    For many buyers, they don't know what is needed to get the best work created. They don't know what information the writer needs, they have no idea which way the writer works.

    It is the writers responsibility to ask the right questions, to draw the information from the buyer. Never complain you don't have the right information, if you haven't asked the right questions.

    I ask questions, I get onto Skype with the client to discuss their needs, I make suggestions about how they can have an even better product. But, this is why I charge higher rates.

    Bev
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  • Profile picture of the author itcoll
    Filipino writers do write good and also quality articles.I plan to do a lot of outsourcing to those people in the future.
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