What part of "no" don't you understand?

by N4PGW
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I have been reading where exit-blockers are responsible for increasing sales on pages they are used on. I can't say that the unblockable popups aren't annoying, but I have stopped and looked at the second chance ads not just a few times. However, my experience with them this morning can best be described as upsetting.

I am still on the list of quite a few marketers who send affiliate links to the newest IM game in town as well as some that aren't so new. This morning was a burst of recommendations to Affiliate Explosion, among others. What I discovered was that when I got the exit-blocker popup, another page loaded in the background. Then when I clicked "ok" to leave, I got another exit-block. This happened, not only on AE but others as well (I am not picking on AE it was the most popular one today.) I don't know if it were by design or accident that I got two popups.

But what really got me was one that required me to close four (4) popups to continue. The stupid thing is that I signed up for the freebie and still couldn't get away! I know it was not the woman's fault who sent the link, but I unsubscribed from the site owner and I unsubscribed from her list -- and I let her know why as her settings on aweber asked for a reason. This experience was so annoying that I will be adding sites like that to my blocked sites list from now on.

Do you use this technology?
How many stops do you use? and
What are your results?

Am I the only one annoyed by these exit-blockers?
#exit popups #part #understand
  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    I don't buy stuff anymore. So no reason to go the the newest and greatest new thing. The info here alone in this one forum is more than anything I could pay for, anyway. And that doesn't count the War Room!
    Tried and true and good sensible basics will win the day in the long run (in my opinion). Getting the motivation and good information from here alone has probably made several millionaires. So let them pop up, down, under or over, I just avoid the IM niche anymore. (With rare exception)
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  • Profile picture of the author CDawson
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    I will admit, these are a tab bit annoying, although I haven't used one yet, I don't think I ever will. I think the side note tab special is more appealing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raiel Schwartz
    Marketers will use what works.

    I do think that having more than one exit splash is somewhat on the intrusive side however.
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    • Profile picture of the author butters
      It works but it is annoying, but, when I look at a sales page I know they are going to be there so they don't annoy me as much as they used to. I just keep clicking through, ignoring the discount, I mainly go to sales pages to see how they are selling.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Craig.Michaels View Post

      Marketers will use what works.
      Many marketers will also use what doesn't work.

      Because they see many others using it and assume that "it must work".

      It becomes self-perpetuating, whether it works or not.

      People who split-test properly (for long enough to measure not only the people who respond favourably to a pop-up, but all the lost returning traffic from all the people who would otherwise have come back to the site but don't) tend to abandon them. But few test properly.

      And as our resident internet lawyer Brian Kindsvater has been commenting in some threads, there are legal issues about these things, too (laws currently barely enforced, but which can be, some time).
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      • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
        I'm so glad to read this thread.

        I'm new to IM, but I've been in the IT/Internet business for quite a few years.

        This has been a raging debate for years amongst web programmers - to popup or not to popup.

        Every study that I have heard of says that people hate popups! They've been saying it for years! That's why popup blockers are so widely used, and (thankfully) most websites have stopped using popups. But the practice seems to be alive and well in the IM business.

        Again, I'm relatively new to IM, but here's a newbie's perspective (just from what I've learned as a web programmer):

        P*ssing your customers off is not the best business model. If something you do annoys the customer but he tolerates it, that's still not good!

        Sure a small percentage of your customers will buy your upsell, just like a small percentage of spam recipients will buy what the spammer is selling, even though nobody likes spam! There are always some folks who will "hold their noses" and buy anyway. But this is a small percent. I suspect it is comparable to the percent of people who buy upsells when confronted by an exit-blocker.

        I really don't want to alienate most of my customers just to milk that little extra that I might get from the "spam fans". I would rather have customers that like the experience on my site, and want to come back.

        Of course, that's only the opinion of an old computer geek turned IM'er!

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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
        I think that when they started, or back when that fake chat box popped up, they probably worked. Like the corner peel ads. A lot of folks clicked on them for the novelty.

        Then someone decided they would be a good product to sell to folk son the premise that everyone was losing traffic and sales, and then they showed up on Clickbank.

        That pretty much put a nail in the effectiveness right there. Its a pretty good sign that when folks think that they need more and more popups to get the same results, they are probably on the way out. And soon you will see them in the giveaways.
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  • Profile picture of the author richdirtygirl
    Originally Posted by N4PGW View Post

    I have been reading where exit-blockers are responsible for increasing sales on pages they are used on. I can't say that the unblockable popups aren't annoying, but I have stopped and looked at the second chance ads not just a few times. However, my experience with them this morning can best be described as upsetting.

    I am still on the list of quite a few marketers who send affiliate links to the newest IM game in town as well as some that aren't so new. This morning was a burst of recommendations to Affiliate Explosion, among others. What I discovered was that when I got the exit-blocker popup, another page loaded in the background. Then when I clicked "ok" to leave, I got another exit-block. This happened, not only on AE but others as well (I am not picking on AE it was the most popular one today.) I don't know if it were by design or accident that I got two popups.

    But what really got me was one that required me to close four (4) popups to continue. The stupid thing is that I signed up for the freebie and still couldn't get away! I know it was not the woman's fault who sent the link, but I unsubscribed from the site owner and I unsubscribed from her list -- and I let her know why as her settings on aweber asked for a reason. This experience was so annoying that I will be adding sites like that to my blocked sites list from now on.

    Do you use this technology?
    How many stops do you use? and
    What are your results?

    Am I the only one annoyed by these exit-blockers?
    it does work, but i don't use them.

    I don't use a lot of things that work, because I like to "choose" my customers with a certain profile that will make the relationship nice and easy.

    here is the thing: everything you put in your sales process will call in and call out certain type of personalities, whether you are aware of it or not.

    that extra percentage of sales from pop ups, are people usually not in a bright day... my crystal ball sees a lot of headaches down the road.

    Laura
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    I don't use them. I don't mind it when someone uses one, it's part of the game, but I was on a site a few weeks ago that used five of them! That's idiotic. If I don't buy, and I don't respond positively to the first exit blocker, what kind of moron thinks 5 is going to matter?

    For the record, I never bother to read the exit blocker. I close it as fast as it opens.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    thats why Google bans that kind of stuff and people advertising for it, and you are wondering WHY?
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    • Profile picture of the author N4PGW
      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

      thats why Google bans that kind of stuff and people advertising for it, and you are wondering WHY?

      I don't wonder why....

      I wasn't aware that they banned them, but it doesn't bother me that they do. I had contemplated using one, but now I know I will not be using it.

      Thanks.

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  • Profile picture of the author Emily Meeks
    I think ONE exit blocker is okay, it'll bring in a few extra sales and most people will forgive you for having just one... but any more than that, I sure as hell ain't buying.
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    Exit Blockers<------------ No Thanks I don't use them I have a few but for some reason I don't feel the need to "convince" my customer. if they want it they want it if not . c ya later.

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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    I haven't encountered one that bad yet. Sounds like the internet equivalent of sticking your foot in the door.
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    i was just on CB doing homework and found some, these exit pops will be yesterdays hero's sooner than later.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I hate them, particularly if they are difficult to get rid of and most of them are. Never got "converted" because of one.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I hate them as they waste my time.

      BUT - if you want to utilize them for your own benefit, here's how to do it.

      On the rare occasion when you find a site selling something you want to buy, close the site to see if there is an exit blocker installed. If there is go ahead and jump through the hoops. Everyone I've investigated is offering a cheaper price on the product.\ featured on the sales page.

      Checking for the blocker before you click "buy now" can create a great discount!

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      • Profile picture of the author Wills
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        On the rare occasion when you find a site selling something you want to buy, close the site to see if there is an exit blocker installed. If there is go ahead and jump through the hoops. Everyone I've investigated is offering a cheaper price on the product. featured on the sales page.

        Checking for the blocker before you click "buy now" can create a great discount!
        Ha, I've done that in the past as well, with the exit pop ups.

        I bought one of them before to test it out. I tracked the links to see if they were clicked.

        But I didn't get the chance to test, because I soon found out that, if someone click an ad or any other external link, the exit pop came up.

        They didn't mention that on the sales page when they were telling me how easy it was to set up.
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        • Profile picture of the author SocialMediaOwls
          It's a shame that these shysters have to resort to such measures. Of course they use it because it works, but just because something "works" doesn't mean you should always do it.

          That's an automatic "don't buy" sign when I run into those things
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  • Profile picture of the author ppbiz
    I find them completely annoying. I think that there have been times where I may have gone away and thought about it to only come back and buy the product, but got so ticked off at the exit blockers that I didn't on principle.... Wonder how often that happens?
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    What part of "no" don't you understand? That sounds like my girlfriend talking to me.

    BTW, I hate pop ups. They are so annoying. The latest trend is an ad that screams at me - you are a winner.
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by N4PGW View Post

    Do you use this technology?
    How many stops do you use? and
    What are your results?
    No, but I teach it. I recommend that anyone using exit pops use one and only one. Similarly, I recommend you have one upsell, but two isn't outrageous if you're honestly offering more value.

    If you think in bronze - silver - gold - platinum, offer your silver edition up front, and use an exit pop to offer the bronze. If a prospect goes for silver, upsell gold, then OTO with a discount on platinum.

    For this layout (i.e. four versions of the same product), I personally prefer single page with bronze/silver/gold and single OTO upsell to the next level. Most people will pick silver and upsell to gold, then you can upsell again later via the customer list. I don't use exit pops at all.

    But in general, I do one version of a product and it's yes/no. Want it? Here. Don't want it? Thanks anyway. No upsells, no OTOs, no exit pops. I've had good results from upsells and OTOs, I just generally don't do the work to put them in play.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bulldozer
    I think exit blockers are something that will hurt your online business.
    People associate them with scams / porn / popups / illegal ****.
    Can't make returning vistors to your site if you're using exit blockers.
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