Got a really good scare last night

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Last night my 2 year old poured milk onto my laptop.

My laptop has all my work
All the raw materials for my courses
All the product's I've bought
My family's photos
And a lot more

And no recent backup. I hadn't backed it up in months.

And after he poured the milk onto it - it went dead and wouldn't turn on.

I got quite a scare, and thankfully it started working again this morning, but I learned my lesson - and so should you...

Backup your computer on a regular basis!

Since I know I can't trust myself to do it, I'm going to get one of those programs that sit on your drive and do it automatically.

Lesson learned....

And a reminder for all the others...

Don't let it happen to you.
#good #night #scare
  • Profile picture of the author Neil Morgan
    Hi Sara

    Thank goodness you got it going again.

    Lesson learned

    As someone once said, remember computers are just machines. It's not a case of *if* they'll fail. It's *when* they'll fail.

    Cheers,

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    • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
      I use Carbonite - an online backup service which does a constant, running backup for me. I also backup onto an external harddrive and, less frequently, to a memory stick.

      I'm paranoid about backups!
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      • Profile picture of the author halfpoint
        I have an external hard drive that automatically sync's with the folders I want to back up which works well.

        I plan on travelling a lot next year so then I'll probably look to back up everything online in case I use I lose my external drive.

        It's never fun losing all of your stuff.
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      • Profile picture of the author DogScout
        Originally Posted by rosetrees View Post

        I use Carbonite - an online backup service which does a constant, running backup for me. I also backup onto an external harddrive and, less frequently, to a memory stick.

        I'm paranoid about backups!
        Wise advice, backing up to external hard drives and memory sticks don't help if they are all in the house when it burns down. (God forbid). Also backing up to an on-line repository is a wise move. The right on-line service backs up the repositories in multiple locations so you never have to worry about anything except if there is a Starbucks close to the library when you go there to use the computers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Profit-smart
    You would have been fine either way; so long as you pulled the power source (Plugin/Battery) within around 60 seconds of the spill.

    All you need to save is your hard-drive =] you could have just pulled it out, bought the proper reader and pulled the files up on your desktop.
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  • Profile picture of the author Home Easy Earn
    I know what you mean as a few weeks back I had planned to spend a relaxing weekend doing nothing and on the Saturday morning my computer would not switch on. I started to panic as at first I thought the har drive had gone and I also had not backed anything up.

    I became even more worried when there was a loud popping noise from the tower and a wisp of smoke. I was luck that it turned out to just be the power supply. So i spent all Saturday finding a new power supply and fitting it. I then spent most of Sunday morning backing everything up onto disk that I could not afford to lose.

    I have definitely learned my lesson now and every thing gets backed regular onto rewrite disks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Neil Morgan
      I'd like the idea of Carbonite better if the data was locally stored.

      Does anyone know if a similar thing exists for local storage? Meaning it monitors changes in real time and backs them up locally as you go along?

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      • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
        Originally Posted by Neil Morgan View Post

        Does anyone know if a similar thing exists for local storage? Meaning it monitors changes in real time and backs them up locally as you go along?
        Western Digital sells external hard drives that do this. In addition you can keep computers synced with them. It encrypts everything on the drive so it is super secure traveling. It backs up all changes as soon as they are saved.

        Mine is an impressive usb only drive, no other power needed. I would disconnect it most of the time and reconnect to get the back up updated quickly. Didn't like leaving it running continuously.

        Then I had just a bit of a problem restoring something from it one day mostly because of the fog in my head. Got grouchy and reformatted the drive to get rid of all the WD software and just use it as a regular back up. I really don't need the encryption or the sync, and like using it better this way.

        It is pretty sophisticated software and a lot of people here would probably appreciate it, but I went with the simple version, and it is still a really good back up.
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        • Profile picture of the author halfpoint
          Originally Posted by Lloyd Buchinski View Post

          Western Digital sells external hard drives that do this. In addition you can keep computers synced with them. It encrypts everything on the drive so it is super secure traveling. It backs up all changes as soon as they are saved.

          Mine is an impressive usb only drive, no other power needed. I would disconnect it most of the time and reconnect to get the back up updated quickly. Didn't like leaving it running continuously.

          Then I had just a bit of a problem restoring something from it one day mostly because of the fog in my head. Got grouchy and reformatted the drive to get rid of all the WD software and just use it as a regular back up. I really don't need the encryption or the sync, and like using it better this way.

          It is pretty sophisticated software and a lot of people here would probably appreciate it, but I went with the simple version, and it is still a really good back up.
          Another vote here for Western Digital.

          I have a 250GB USB drive from them which came with "Memeo Autosync" software.

          Basically, I set up the folders that I want backed up and it automatically does so every time I change something or create something new in any of those folders.
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          • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
            Originally Posted by Pat Jackson View Post

            Another vote here for Western Digital.

            I have a 250GB USB drive from them which came with "Memeo Autosync" software.
            You reminded me that the Memeo stuff was an annoyance. It seems to be the default and only comes with a free trial, then you have to pay. There was no mention of that on the WD product pages. It took a bit of hunting around but found out that you can delete it from your computer and download a WD program that does the job without charge, so I did that.

            Seemed like a slightly unpleasant way for a company to do business.

            A positive note about it is that this was the first thing I ever had that could back up Outlook automatically. Both the WD and the Memeo software did this.
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  • Profile picture of the author mahesh2k
    Lesson learned from this,save your data online or offline whichever is fast/easy. I'm using evernote and amazon s3 and syncing it back and forth whenever i get some new data on computer. It takes some time but have to save it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rbbiz
    I personally use dropbox for my backups. Works great! And its free untill 2GB, so you can test it first to see if it works for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Bronson
    Luckily you didn't lose any data! Backups are crucial...I'm too paranoid about losing years of work so I:

    1. Save all data to second internal drive, and keep the OS separate.
    2. Back up the internal data drive to an external drive daily.
    3. In case of fire...I use Mozy, an online automatic back up service similar to Carbonite...only $4.95/mo for peace of mind.
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    • Profile picture of the author GrantFreeman
      Originally Posted by Lux_Arcana View Post

      Luckily you didn't lose any data! Backups are crucial...I'm too paranoid about losing years of work so I:

      1. Save all data to second internal drive, and keep the OS separate.
      2. Back up the internal data drive to an external drive daily.
      3. In case of fire...I use Mozy, an online automatic back up service similar to Carbonite...only $4.95/mo for peace of mind.
      ..and 4. Buy shorty a slurpy cup

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      • Profile picture of the author Jeff Bronson
        Originally Posted by GrantFreeman View Post

        ..and 4. Buy shorty a slurpy cup

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        lol, ok.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cringer
    I manually backup my data by using an NAS (network attached storage). It works as a raid, meaning that whenever I copy data onto the raid it automatically makes two copies of it. So when the data gets copied onto disk 1 it immediately copies it onto disk 2 also.

    I learnt that one backup hardrive just isnt enough. If that fails then your backup is no good.

    The good thing is I have it on the network and can access the data remotely if need be.

    I use a Buffalo NAS 1 TB in case you are in the market for one.

    I do actually use my webhosting plan to also store some important data too in case I cant get access to the important documents on the NAS.
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  • Profile picture of the author Texjd
    Here's a great little free backup program that does a good job and is fast. You can back up to local or on one of your domains. Heres the link:

    Karen's Replicator

    What's really cool about this software is that it only backs up files that have changed so once you do a full back up it only takes about 5 minutes to update every day. You can set it to run automatically, back up to different locations, and it keeps a log to show any problems. Keeps all files in native format, no compression to screw up the files. Rock solid little program.

    I have seen Carbonite and other backup online systems fail way too many times to trust them. I get at least 2 calls a month on problems restoring from these services.

    I bought a netbook and installed all my software and back up all data to it frequently. That gives me a bulletproof backup solution that I can just turn on and go regardless of what disaster strikes. The Netbook only cost $250 and it has come in handy already.

    Regardless of what method you choose, test it to make sure you can restore. Never take anything for granted only to find out when you need it, something is not working.
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  • Profile picture of the author RefundHost
    It took 5 unrecoveral crashes/viruses to prompt me to buy an external hard drive
    and actually do regular backups - even a few ( better a few small ones than one
    big ) USB stick is better than nothing.
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    • Profile picture of the author butters
      If you got a mac, grab your self an external hard drive and use time machine, my system backs it self up every minuet which is kind of cool .

      I am glad you computer is ok, I have had scares like that in the past.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sara Young
      Originally Posted by Profit-smart View Post

      You would have been fine either way; so long as you pulled the power source (Plugin/Battery) within around 60 seconds of the spill.

      All you need to save is your hard-drive =] you could have just pulled it out, bought the proper reader and pulled the files up on your desktop.
      I actually turned the power off right away and then unplugged the power cord. Then I poured the milk out (wasn't that much but still poured out. Sounds scary, doesn't it?) Did realy quick. Sort of like an instinct reaction.

      Originally Posted by Texjd View Post

      I have seen Carbonite and other backup online systems fail way too many times to trust them. I get at least 2 calls a month on problems restoring from these services.
      Hmmm... I guess that's important to know...

      Originally Posted by GrantFreeman View Post

      ..and 4. Buy shorty a slurpy cup

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      lol. Nothing will stop him... Not even a slurpy cup!
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        Remote backups are critical for situations like house fires or burglary. Local backups are better for fast restoration of files. And either can fail. Do both.

        Don't forget the reverse process. A lot of us have stuff online that wasn't created on a local hard drive. Forums, blog comments, lists and databases, etc. If your web host crashes and their backups fail (way more common than you might believe), you're equally screwed. Maybe more so, if you're talking about an affiliate force or subscriber list.


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        • Profile picture of the author Neil Morgan
          Hey Cringer

          I manually backup my data by using an NAS (network attached storage). It works as a raid, meaning that whenever I copy data onto the raid it automatically makes two copies of it. So when the data gets copied onto disk 1 it immediately copies it onto disk 2 also.
          Amongst other things, that's what I want to do too, for my "main" PC.

          I just went out and bought a 1Tb NAS drive for the job.

          What did you do to get it working as a RAID?

          Edit: Dang, I left it in the car and it's snowing outside. Again!

          Cheers,

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      • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
        Originally Posted by Sara Young View Post

        I have seen Carbonite and other backup online systems fail way too many times to trust them. I get at least 2 calls a month on problems restoring from these services.


        Hmmm... I guess that's important to know...
        That's why I would NEVER trust a single backup. You should always have at least two backups (as in additional to the original) in case of failure.

        Preferably at least one off site. Even if that means leaving a CD/DVD/memory stick in your car. (But beware of the batteries in electric cars erasing content)
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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Theriot
    I recommend backing up in triplicate, in different formats. I use an external harddrive, I burn to DVD for archiving, and short term, I keep about a year's worth or so of work on a 4 GB USB key. Replace all backups bi-annually, as in make new copies on new hardware. Harddrives have a working lifespan, DVDs have a shelf-life, Flash media only has so many writes/rewrites before they fail. So backup, but always remember to backup the backup.
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