Article Marketers - Do You Submit To EZA Only?

by Allen Graves 36 replies
Warriors,

A lot of times I hear people say that they only submit their articles to EzineArticles.com and nowhere else. Well, heck, why not? After all, they are the "best" article directory on the internet, right? Plus, you can't get more traffic from your articles anywhere else!

Well, although those statements are probably correct, I don't suggest at all that you submit to EZA only.

When people ask me about this, I tell them there is a very simple and compelling reason. Those who only submit to EZA are, not probably, but definitely losing money.

Here’s why.

Websites frequently get their content from article directories, right? They grab an RSS feed and post the article content on their sites. So here’s a question for you. Do you think every single website out there gets their RSS feed from EZA?

I can confidently say that the answer is NO. Just one of my directories feeds hundreds of websites, as do many other article directories out there.

Google doesn’t just show article directory pages in their results!

Say a person is searching for those red widgets that you are selling. They do a search in Google and they find a blog or some other site that is getting an RSS feed from a different article directory, like Buzzle or Website-Articles. So they click through and end up buying the widget.

Guess what. The person that only submits to EZA just lost that sale. Think about it!

That is my take on that...

Respectfully,
Allen Graves
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  • Profile picture of the author momo3
    I've never done much with Ezine. But is it wise to have the article

    1.) On Site
    2.) Quickly submit to ezine
    3.) Then once approved by ezine, submit to other directories?
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    • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
      Momo,

      It is a myth that EZA will not accept an article if it is posted somewhere else first. Yes, they may decline it at first, but all you have to do is let them know that it is your own content. So, no you wouldn't have to wait for it to be accepted there first.

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      • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
        Hi Steven,

        Well, I knew you would chime in on this.

        I remember hearing you say this somewhere else before. I think this is one of those areas where we agree to disagree...which is cool.

        At least we're not sitting around in a circle, indian-style, singing Kumbaya. LOL

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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

          Hi Steven,

          Well, I knew you would chime in on this.

          I remember hearing you say this somewhere else before. I think this is one of those areas where we agree to disagree...which is cool.

          At least we're not sitting around in a circle, indian-style, singing Kumbaya. LOL

          AL
          Actually, if you've got the time and don't mind taking it, submitting to
          other directories can bring some extra income.

          The problem is, before I began submitting to EZA exclusively, I did all
          the directory submission stuff. I even bought one of those submitters. I
          made a list of all the top directories according to the "experts" and made
          my rounds.

          My results were so bad that I was going to give up article marketing. This
          was actually BEFORE I submitted one article to EZA.

          Then I submitted my first article there. I think it was 6/3/2006. I honestly
          don't remember. But it got like 100 views the first day.

          I almost lost my eyeballs. I hadn't had 100 views with heaven knows
          how many articles I submitted to who knows how many directories,
          amongst them were GoArticles, Article City, Article Alley and a ton of
          others I don't even remember.

          Hey, I'm a cheap SOB. You know that. I will sooner write an article and
          submit it than pay for pay per click or even a solo ezine ad.

          You show me ONE article directory that will be worth my 15 minutes to
          submit to and I'll do it. I'm not a stubborn cuss when it comes to
          promotion, but so far, every directory I've submitted to (and this was even
          before article marketing was a household name) has been a major
          disappointment.

          But like I said, show me the money and I'll be there.
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          • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            You show me ONE article directory that will be worth my 15 minutes to
            submit to and I'll do it.
            I would...but my stalkers would be in this thread so fast your head would spin. LOL

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            • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
              Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

              I would...but my stalkers would be in this thread so fast your head would spin. LOL

              AL
              Well, you see, you've answered my question.

              Obviously there's some relatively unknown directory out there that IS worth
              submitting to.

              Problem is, with the HUNDREDS of article directories out there, finding it
              would be like looking for a needle in a haystack.

              So there we are again with the issue of time vs. return. How much time am
              I going to waste trying to find those "good" directories when I already
              know one that is earning me thousands each month without even breaking
              a sweat?

              See my point? You have to weight time vs. return or your business ends
              up not being profitable, or at least as profitable as it was.
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            • Profile picture of the author wordwizard
              EZA is the first directory I submit to, but I also submit the articles to iSnare and a few others, Amazines in particular.

              I find that both of those have pretty good view scores as well, and they often complement my scores on EZA. I.e., articles that get few views often get lots of views on iSnare and/or Amazines. In fact, iSnare is pretty much head to head with EZA for views, except that there are a couple of articles that have been getting really large numbers at EZA. But if you ignore those, they're pretty much even. Amazines is a bit less, but not shabby at all. Maybe 2/3 of the other two (not counting those super high performing articles at EZA).

              And no, it doesn't take too long to submit to them. Sometimes I cut and paste (and I have the different resource sections almost down to some efficient system at last), although sometimes I rewrite the articles a bit for (hopefully) more Google love, especially the ones I submit to iSnare. Also helps me figure out which directory gets my articles out more ;-)

              All in all, I think this works, and yes, I do get visitors to my site from the others too.

              Elisabeth

              P.S.: One little complication: iSnare requires 500 words and Ezinearticles only 250. I tend to aim for closer to 500 anyway, so that's rarely an issue. But if they do come in a bit short, I'll just add some stuff for iSnare and I'm good. But that does make submitting the articles to the other ones a bit more labor intensive.

              P.P.S.: Whatever happened to the emoticons?
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              • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
                When you edit a post you have to "Go Advanced" to get the smileys.

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      • Profile picture of the author louiefrias
        Allen, thanks for always being honest in your posts and replies.

        I totally DISAGREE with you on your reply here, though. I learned the HARD way that this is exactly the protocol EZA affirms. Even after pointing out with documentation I provided to EZA that I was THE originator of the article that I had posted in a ton of other places, they reamined firm and denied my article.

        IMHO, submit to them first, then go wherever you want.

        Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

        Momo,

        It is a myth that EZA will not accept an article if it is posted somewhere else first. Yes, they may decline it at first, but all you have to do is let them know that it is your own content. So, no you wouldn't have to wait for it to be accepted there first.

        AL
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        • Profile picture of the author dbarnum
          We submit different content to some places, same to others, revised to others, etc. Get help, too, from:

          Isnare submissions
          Article Marketing Services - Ghost Writing and Article Distribution from The Phantom Writers Since 2001 awesome submission service - Bill rocks!
          the Ezine Trendz ladies' submission service (2 ladies run it; it's not just for ladies )
          Ideamarketers nifty IMing options

          ...and many other places! Lots of places and help on the web today for marketing with content
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        • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
          Originally Posted by louiefrias View Post

          Allen, thanks for always being honest in your posts and replies.

          I totally DISAGREE with you on your reply here, though. I learned the HARD way that this is exactly the protocol EZA affirms. Even after pointing out with documentation I provided to EZA that I was THE originator of the article that I had posted in a ton of other places, they reamined firm and denied my article.

          IMHO, submit to them first, then go wherever you want.

          Thanks Louisfras...but the same thing happened to me and they were accepted. Now there's a surprise...another discepency in their terms.

          They should probably have a team meeting and get it all together. LOL

          Really, about two days after I emailed them with proof, they suddenly appeared - approved - in the directory.

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          • Profile picture of the author Ross Kenny
            I used to only use Ezine Articles but more recently
            I have been looking at building up wordpress niche
            blogs targeting similar long tail keywords as I do
            with EA but with less competition.

            Over time I hope my blogs will build up good PR
            and stand well established. (If I add constant
            unique content then Google will love my blogs)

            If you look at EA you've got all the adsense and
            distractions surrounding your article so it's so easily
            for the reader to get distracted and leave.

            You've got to worry about putting all your eggs into
            one basket and all of you that only use EA should be
            worrying.

            What would you do if EA lost all it's articles overnight
            with some crazy database crash??

            What would you do if your account was suspended..??

            Everytime EA changes it's rules you the user suffers.

            At least using Blogs also is building up some real virual
            estates which can be flipped for thousands etc.. (Just
            another income stream to think about)

            I'm not saying i won't use Ezine Articles.. Of course I will..
            One of the links out of my Bio will be pointing to my Niche
            BLog...

            I'm just going off all those ads and distractions...

            I've really got to admire Allen Graves's Article Directory.

            This is exactly what you want. No adverts or distractions.

            Afterall you never know what could happen with Ezine
            Articles.

            As Allen is suggesting you should have your articles in
            different places.

            just my opinion....
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
    Allen, while what you are saying is technically accurate, the way I look at
    it is how my time is best served.

    Is it better served by writing more articles and submitting to EZA, or is it
    better served by taking time away from my article writing time and submission
    time to EZA to submit to other directories that may or may not produce a
    sale?

    Unless you get somebody to do the submitting for you, this is going to take
    time from your day. And then, if you DO hire somebody, it's going to take
    money from your pocket that you may or may not get back.

    So for me, it's not even an issue. There is no way I'd spend time submitting
    to other directories unless somebody could show me a way that would take
    no more than 15 minutes out of my day (the time it takes me on average
    to write one article that on average makes me $25 of income). Otherwise,
    I wouldn't even consider it.
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    • Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

      So for me, it's not even an issue. There is no way I'd spend time submitting to other directories unless somebody could show me a way that would take
      no more than 15 minutes out of my day (the time it takes me on average
      to write one article that on average makes me $25 of income). Otherwise,
      I wouldn't even consider it.
      Steven, it shouldn't take you that long if you do it all at once. If you submit it to EZA first, you can just copy and paste into all the other places (see the ones I use: the most time consuming is isnare, which I use the least): no more than 5-7 minutes per article.

      Of course, it helps if you have roboform fill in all your login info
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  • Allen, I agree 100% with you. I submit to several places, not to all of them all the time, but I mix them up.

    Here are the places I submit to usually, other than EZA:

    - IdeaMarketers Article Bank - Promote your articles, find free news articles, article promotion - Idea Marketers
    - Free Content Articles Distribution Directory and Search Engine for Ezines and Websites
    - Article Search Engine Directory: GoArticles.com
    - Free Reprint Articles by Women - Moms Submit Articles Here (this is a directory for women's articles)
    - Article Dashboard Directory | Submit Articles | Search Find Free Content | Author Submission

    Of course, many times I contact site owners (those that have my audience) and offer them unique, exclusive articles. Works very well!
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  • Profile picture of the author lightningzeus
    Articles are very powerful on the internet, and submitting to EZA is a good option, but only on a niche that is rather small there.
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  • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
    Steven,

    Use a program like article post robot. It would take 15 minutes to submit it to 10 or so PR 5 & 6 sites.

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    • Profile picture of the author Thomas Dean
      I submit to a few different directories.

      Mainly EZA and Buzzle.

      I've found EZA to be more powerful (obviously!) in the short term, the initial traffic you get from being on the recently approved articles list is awesome - you can make a few sales from that alone.

      But I've found Buzzle to be more effective for SEO etc. I have a few articles on Buzzle that have hit the first page of Google for their keywords, and have stayed there for almost a year - crazy awesome stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author noodle24
    I believe it takes a little more than just EZA. I check my stats and Google counts some other directories as good quality links. So why not?
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  • Profile picture of the author tess47
    I use EZA and GoArticles, and submit the same article to each. I don't wait for Google to index the article with Ezine, I submit them at the same time and have NEVER had one problem with it.

    I do get a few visitors from GoArticles, but I have to admit Ezine Articles is my favorite! And I also use Buzzle occasionally - they show up very well if optimized well.
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  • Profile picture of the author jennstall
    I find Isnare pretty useful. I have a couple of articles there with several hundred views each. Buzzle would be next.

    But the problem I find with both sites is I rarely see them in my referrer logs. So I don't see a lot of benefit to a Buzzle article of mine being first page on Google if no one reading that article is clicking through to my site -- and I know it isn't my article because the exact same article on EZA will gets hundreds of clickthroughs to my site.

    Isnare, however, does seem to serve some SEO benefit. I used it to help a page of mine that had lost a ton of traffic and now my traffic to that page is nearly back to where it used to be.
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  • Profile picture of the author SimonRiver
    Can someone give a comprehensive list of effective directories?
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    • Profile picture of the author Sandor Verebi
      Originally Posted by SimonRiver View Post

      Can someone give a comprehensive list of effective directories?
      Hi Simon,

      I think you will find worth to have a look at this list:

      - ezinearticles.com
      - articles-hub.com
      - articlesfactory.com
      - findarticles.com
      - goarticles.com
      - searchguild.com
      - theallineed.com
      - webpronews.com
      - ezineplug.com
      - isnare.com
      - articlebiz.com
      - articlecity.com
      - articledashboard.com
      - allfreelancework.com
      - articleworld.net

      They have PR 6-7.

      Good luck,

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      • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
        Yes, Buzzle is a very good alternative and I use it in a couple of niches too. There are many out there, so it really comes down to you doing your research correctly to find out where else to submit.

        There are a ton of variables in article marketing, but one of the easiest to overcome is exactly where to submit your articles.

        But it goes without saying that wherever you decide to submit...EZA will be at the top of the list. At least for the time being.

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    • Profile picture of the author oregongal
      I do prefer EZA. I submit all my articles to them. I rewrite some of my better ones and submit to GoArticles. I have just started using Buzzle. I get some traffic from each, with EZA in the lead. I'm still in the beginning stages of article marketing so I'm looking for more traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
    I used to submit to EZA exclusively, then I tried out the article marketer service where they claim to distribute to thousands of websites and article directories, one article (my best EZA one) quadrupled my traffic.

    Wether their claim is true or not, it worked submitting to other directories.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gunter Eibl
    I think the 'problem' is that EZA gives more traffic than the remaining top 5 or 10 together. If you find a way to mass submit to these other 10 it makes sense, not only increasing your link popularity but also traffic wise. I agree with Allen, it is worth. But I also agree with Steven, it is not worth it if you do it manually.

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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Lee
      I submit to a variety of high PR article directories, and I think it's a good strategy. In fact, a well-known magazine asked my permission to publish my article (which she found in articlesbase.com) in their magazine:

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ing-rocks.html

      I outsource the submission to my assistant.
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      • Profile picture of the author cherylwright
        I only submit to EzineArticles.com - the reason being it's set up (takes ages) and I get loads of views, and lots of postings (of my article) by ezine owners.

        I've had literally thousands upon thousands of views of all my articles. Type my name in Google and see what you get. Most of that is because of my articles at EzineArticles.com I'm sure.

        But I've been a lazy sod - I only have about a dozen there. Must get back to it...



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        • Profile picture of the author Roy Carter
          Originally Posted by cherylwright View Post

          Type my name in Google and see what you get. Most of that is because of my articles at EzineArticles.com I'm sure.
          Cheryl
          Cheryl - Try typing my name into Google and see what you get! That's what comes of having the same name as some US politician!!!

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          • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
            Or use ArticleMarketer.com and submit to thousand of directories.

            EZA terms state that publishers may only syndicate 25 articles total per year, and you may use them on ten individual sites which means a grand total of 250 per publisher.

            Most directory owners, myself included, would like you to only submit all of your original work to them, but the reality is, a wider distribution of your articles is a far better use of your time.

            My directories contain over 100 feeds a piece, and also feed content to over 100 niche sites and blogs. The truth is, a wide distribution of articles benefits us all.

            More inbound links for the author, fresh content for the directory, automated content for our publishers.

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        • Profile picture of the author lpezzini
          the more directory the better, i guess?



          Originally Posted by cherylwright View Post

          I only submit to EzineArticles.com - the reason being it's set up (takes ages) and I get loads of views, and lots of postings (of my article) by ezine owners.

          I've had literally thousands upon thousands of views of all my articles. Type my name in Google and see what you get. Most of that is because of my articles at EzineArticles.com I'm sure.

          But I've been a lazy sod - I only have about a dozen there. Must get back to it...



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          • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
            Originally Posted by lpezzini View Post

            the more directory the better, i guess?
            Well, that's not necessarily the idea either.

            As a few have said above, time vs. income is very important here.

            Yes, you can sign up for a mass submission service, but, in my opinion, that is just a waste of your money since a great majority of those submission won't matter to either thesearch engine OR your direct traffic.

            You should do your research and find out where to submit your articles as well as how many places to submit them to.

            Respectfully,
            Allen Graves
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  • Profile picture of the author tommygadget
    Steven, iSnare should be worth your 15 minutes with their article distribution option. Also, as someone else mentioned, I use article post robot to shoot the article over to the other top 20 PR ranked sites in a few additional minutes.

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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    I must say that several of my affiliates use Hubpages with HUGE success. In fact one of my affiliates was making a good $200+ per day from just one article there.

    I think it's best to be constantly scanning and keeping your feelers out there. Eza will not always be the number one most productive place to put your articles. Google is like a well pampered woman. She knows what she likes, but her mood is constantly changing.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Piteo
    I'm with Steven W. in that it's all about return on investment of your time.

    I always start with EzineArticles as a test to see which articles produce. Once I find articles that either bring me lots of traffic or really good conversion I go nuts and build a little empire around that article. So instead of writing hundreds of articles, I write much less and yet still get tons of traffic.

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