Quit your job tomorrow to persue a carreer in Internet Marketing. I even told my Daughter this.

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Hi All,

I think you should quit your job tomorrow and start your Internet Marketing business. It's the best thing that ever happened to me and I even told my daughter to do it.

This is the story of two Wrights. (and you know two Wrights don't make a Wrong.)

At the beginning of the new millennium my Mom was dying so I "quit my job" to take care of her full time. "Quit my job" is in quotes because it was a temporary quit. I left the job knowing that after my time was no longer needed to help my Mom I'd either be able to go back to work at the job or find another one.

While my wife and I were taking care of Mom, I had some free time to pursue my online endeavors. I liked what I was doing and what I was earning so I still do it today and except for the occasional Temp job I've never been back to "work."

A couple of years ago I told my Daughter, "Tammy quit your job and join me in IM." She responded something to the effect, "Are you crazy."

I explained to here just "pretend quit," take off a week, write an eBook, do a WSO and see how you like it. If it doesn't work out you can go back to work on the following Monday.

She did that, she made a nice little piece of pocket change, however, she did go back to work. Since then she started a membership site and now I run it for the both of us.

Do you get it? If you have a burning desire to "Quit Your Job," Do it. Do it for a day, a week or a month.

You don't even have to lose your pay if your benefits have vacation pay or other type of leave pay that you can ethically collect. (Tammy did)

When you do this, work IM like you never could while working on the job. pretend that you really did quit and you have to sink or swim. You will learn a lot, you will probably make some money and if you don't make your first million or at least replace your income, during the job quitting period, there is always Monday morning.

It really feels good to "quit" if that is your buring desire, even if it's a pretend quit and even if you have to unquit on Monday.

My best to you,

George Wright
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  • Profile picture of the author Krish2007
    Well it's good, but it takes a lot of time, effort and in most cases Money, to make a living on Net.

    Krish
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    • Profile picture of the author George Wright
      Originally Posted by Krish2007 View Post

      Well it's good, but it takes a lot of time, effort and in most cases Money, to make a living on Net.

      Krish
      Krish,

      That's true.

      However, do you think that if someone spent a full month full time working one of the offers in your sig file that it would at least be possible to make "some" money?

      Remember I had, Tammy had, and I'm recommending to all to keep the safety net of the return trip to go back to the job. By the way Tammy Loved the experience and has "quit" a couple of times since. It really feels good.

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    • Profile picture of the author VegasGreg
      Originally Posted by Krish2007 View Post

      Well it's good, but it takes a lot of time, effort and in most cases Money, to make a living on Net.

      Krish
      Doesn't it also take a lot of time, effort and in most cases money to make a living OFF the net?:confused:

      There are no free handouts in life, no matter which way you go.
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      • Profile picture of the author George Wright
        Originally Posted by VegasGreg View Post

        Doesn't it also take a lot of time, effort and in most cases money to make a living OFF the net?:confused:

        There are no free handouts in life, no matter which way you go.
        Thanks for that VegasGreg,

        In my case it took 8 to 12 hours a day doing boring and or back breaking things.

        In IM I'm in the comfort of my home kicked back with my favorite beverage or I'm walking down the street talking to different people in their businesses.

        You make a very good point.

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      • Profile picture of the author janisv
        Originally Posted by VegasGreg View Post

        Doesn't it also take a lot of time, effort and in most cases money to make a living OFF the net?:confused:

        There are no free handouts in life, no matter which way you go.
        Totally agree with you. I walked out of a 6 figure job to pursue my dream, and so far It's the best thing I could possibly have done. I think that when you have the "net" your mind relaxes and always think on the plan b, but when you don't have a plan b, you are forced to put your all to plan A.
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    • Profile picture of the author Marketstriker
      Originally Posted by Krish2007 View Post

      Well it's good, but it takes a lot of time, effort and in most cases Money, to make a living on Net.

      Krish
      Can you tell any job or business that doesn't require time, efforts and money. I think this depends on want you want. So if Internet Marketing can satisfy your ambitions and needs better that offline job or business, then you have to try it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hackbridge
      Originally Posted by Krish2007 View Post

      Well it's good, but it takes a lot of time, effort and in most cases Money, to make a living on Net.

      Krish
      I quit and I failed when I tried, because I didn't have a business plan, didn't invest the money I had wisely and I wasn't focused. It's not all about having loads of money in the bank.

      If you can afford to be online, and create blogs or are good at writing which cost nothing, you can make money. You just need to have a plan, focus, and take action.

      My two pennies worth.

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    • Profile picture of the author Don Warren
      Originally Posted by Krish2007 View Post

      Well it's good, but it takes a lot of time, effort and in most cases Money, to make a living on Net.

      Krish
      Yes and more than that. I think most people's problems are that they don't take the right steps. I can never stress how important it is to find a mentor that you can follow their tactic. That's what I did and it's paying off for me very well!
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  • Profile picture of the author Erica Leggette
    I wish I had the guts to quit my job and focus on IM for atleast 2 months straight. I had the honors of working for home when I quit my job of 4 years around April '08 due to a little brow beating contest with my past supervisor.

    I was making some consistent money with incentive marketing but then the house burned down and that particular industry slowed down drastically so back to the workplace I had to go. I wish I had been introduced to affiliate marketing during the 3 months I was working from home. I was in grind mode because I had nothing else to fall on so I had to make that work and it did for a while. But it seems like I have not been as persistent because I have something to fall back on but the reality is, there is no way my job can potentially bring me in $1000's/day so the grind is back on!!

    Maybe I can make a few sales off of them by affiliating myself with some eldercare products and have them purchase from my affiliate link.:rolleyes:

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  • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
    Good compromise, so many people have the "fear" so bad that they don't take the chance...
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  • Profile picture of the author PerigVe
    Hi George,

    This is a very interesting post. I always wanted to do exactly that. Take a week of, get something going and crate a WSO out of it. After reading your post, maybe I'll do just that
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    • Profile picture of the author Gary King
      Originally Posted by PerigVe View Post

      Hi George,

      This is a very interesting post. I always wanted to do exactly that. Take a week of, get something going and crate a WSO out of it. After reading your post, maybe I'll do just that

      Why *MAYBE*?

      If you've always wanted to do it, and you can actually take vacation time, then DO IT. Yes, you may not be able to take vacation later this year to whatever destination you normally may go to, isn't the destination of living your dreams more important than DisneyWorld?

      We spend so much time wanting to do, planning to do, thinking we'll do and getting ready to do... we need to actually do.

      All success,

      Gary
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  • Profile picture of the author Slin
    This is a cool post that made me think a lot.

    I am young and still wonder whether I should base my entire career off of online marketing.

    Some good points here.
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  • Profile picture of the author thescribe
    I really like what you have said here. When you pretend quit your job to pursue IM, your eyes may be opened to other things as well.

    For example, do you REALLY have the motivation to do this (IM) on a daily basis? Are you focused enough to treat IM as your source of income? Many people have a difficult time focusing on what needs to be done when they run their own businesses.

    "Quitting" your job in this manner may help you see if you have the focus and discipline necessary to succeed full time in IM.
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  • Profile picture of the author AllyW
    I like your idea of "quitting" your job on vacation or leave time and working IM like mad to see what you can do. Of course it probably wouldn't turn out very well for anyone who was basically a newbie, but if you've done your research already and have a little know-how under your belt, if you just need to take the plunge, it would be great!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Oh George, there you go again talking sense. Don't you know everyone wants to believe NONsense? :rolleyes:
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    you need to know what your doing and also have some cash
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    • Profile picture of the author George Wright
      Originally Posted by mine1718 View Post

      you need to know what your doing and also have some cash
      This is about "Quitting." If you have a job you should have enough cash to test the waters.


      I didn't know what I was doing.

      Back to having the cash. You do not need cash. However that is another topic.

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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    considering the number of people who are making very little or no money at all with IM, it sounds like the dumbest idea I've heard all day.

    for many people, making a living through internet marketing is a dream that is never going to happen.

    Of course, in your case, you've got it figured out and can teach your daughter how to succeed but that isn't the case for everybody.

    How many people here have a WSO in their signature that claims to bring instant success and huge financial rewards but are are making less that $100 a month?

    BTW... I do sit at home in my lounge gear as a self-employed IM guy but not everybody can pull this stuff off.
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    • Profile picture of the author George Wright
      Originally Posted by jasonmorgan View Post

      considering the number of people who are making very little or no money at all with IM, it sounds like the dumbest idea I've heard all day.

      for many people, making a living through Internet marketing is a dream that is never going to happen.

      Of course, in your case, you've got it figured out and can teach your daughter how to succeed but that isn't the case for everybody.

      How many people here have a WSO in their signature that claims to bring instant success and huge financial rewards but are are making less that $100 a month?

      BTW... I do sit at home in my lounge gear as a self-employed IM guy but not everybody can pull this stuff off.
      Hey Jason, you are entitled to your opinion but your opinion is totally wrong.

      If I said Quit your job period it would probably be dumb.

      I didn't say that I said "pretend quit" to test the waters.

      Another thing you are wrong about in the context of this thread. you say not everyone can do this.

      Remember I said if you have a burning desire to do it. Anyone with a job, who holds down that job, day after day month after month year after can do this IM thing if they, first of all work at least as hard on IM as they work on the job. And, if they don't expect riches overnight they won't be disappointed. On the subject of riches, they might not even come ever. Some would be happy replacing or almost replacing the job income.

      I truly think if I can do this anyone who flips burgers at McDonald's can do it. One of the best pieces of advice that is given over and over on this forum is to learn one thing well and do it over and over. That is the consummate definition of a worker at McDonald's. Burger flippers flip burgers, Cashiers cashier etc. (at least that how they rolled back in the day)

      Of course as you learn IM you may wear many hats, but, you don't have to, to succeed. One hat will do.

      You can say it's a dumb idea if you want. however too many success stories I know of make your statement false.

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      • Profile picture of the author Colin Palfrey
        Originally Posted by George Wright View Post

        Hey Jason, you are entitled to your opinion but your opinion is totally wrong.
        I have been saying this to the missus for years LOL

        Back to the OP:

        I certainly thing this trial quitting your day job is a good idea. To make it work though you would need to fully take on the "make or break" mentality.

        I lost all forms of income two weeks before Christmas, and with no presents bought for the little one Arrgghh!!

        Within the week I was earning more than I ever was, and all from IM.

        It is important to remember the mindset though. I knew if I didn't earn money I couldn't get Christmas presents, food and would be evicted for Christmas.

        I think the reason it worked for me was that I knew there was absolutely no way back, and all my bridges were well and truly burnt.

        Provided you can take a week of and truly believe that you HAVE to succeed then you will.

        It is easy to temporarily lie to yourself, and in fact we all do it every day. Example: I just looked in the mirror and thought "God your sexy, oh your me, aren't you lucky!," and if it wasn't for the wife I would get away with telling myself that all day, everyday.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hamish Jones
      Originally Posted by jasonmorgan View Post

      considering the number of people who are making very little or no money at all with IM, it sounds like the dumbest idea I've heard all day.

      for many people, making a living through internet marketing is a dream that is never going to happen.
      Dude, i get what you are saying, but this is the worst advice I have heard in a long time.

      Whilst I agree that many people will fail, because they lack the desire, this doesn't mean that everyone should give up. Sometimes people just need to be thrown in the deep end and this will give them the incentive to do what they know they should have been doing for a long time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Jason, there have been a few threads lately about people quitting work to go full time in IM when they're not really doing that well with it part time. George is trying to offer the idea of testing the water on a "temporary" full time basis without risking your job.

    PS - I like your bulging eye. Reminds me of Marty Feldman
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    I'm all for 'living the dream', I'd just hate for somebody to give up their job (especially in this economy) for something that might or might not work out.

    Something I think a lot of people don't realize is that when you do do this full time, you have to have a lot of discipline and focus. It's too easy to slack off when you're not on-the-clock. I'm doing it right now

    You can say it's a dumb idea if you want. however too many success stories I know of make your statement false.
    But how many failures have their been?
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    • Profile picture of the author Buildingfutures
      Originally Posted by jasonmorgan View Post

      I'm all for 'living the dream', I'd just hate for somebody to give up their job (especially in this economy) for something that might or might not work out.

      Something I think a lot of people don't realize is that when you do do this full time, you have to have a lot of discipline and focus. It's too easy to slack off when you're not on-the-clock. I'm doing it right now
      It's so easy to slack off when you're on your computer that has all your favorite programs, games, etc on it. I do it all the time, and its hard to get work done during those times. It's why I'm opting to get a laptop/netbook at my earliest convenience, so that I can't play all my games and the like on it.

      But you're not understanding the OP.

      He says take a week off, aka, ask for some time off. He's not telling anyone to flat out quit their job this very second and just do IM, that is ridiculous.

      Hell, just take a 3-4 day weekend to work nonstop on an IM idea and get it going, then check on it the next weekend and see how it did.

      That's what he's getting at. TRY and SEE RESULTS before doing anything drastic.

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      • Profile picture of the author George Wright
        Originally Posted by Buildingfutures View Post

        It's so easy to slack off when you're on your computer that has all your favorite programs, games, etc on it. I do it all the time, and its hard to get work done during those times. It's why I'm opting to get a laptop/netbook at my earliest convenience, so that I can't play all my games and the like on it.

        But you're not understanding the OP.

        He says take a week off, aka, ask for some time off. He's not telling anyone to flat out quit their job this very second and just do IM, that is ridiculous.

        Hell, just take a 3-4 day weekend to work nonstop on an IM idea and get it going, then check on it the next weekend and see how it did.

        That's what he's getting at. TRY and SEE RESULTS before doing anything drastic.

        -Sean
        Thanks Sean. I'm calmer now.

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    • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
      Originally Posted by jasonmorgan View Post

      I'm all for 'living the dream', I'd just hate for somebody to give up their job (especially in this economy) for something that might or might not work out.

      Something I think a lot of people don't realize is that when you do do this full time, you have to have a lot of discipline and focus. It's too easy to slack off when you're not on-the-clock. I'm doing it right now


      But how many failures have their been?
      Ummmm, you are not making any sense. I guess you need to read the full post
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    No, you're right.

    By the time I had read through all of the replies and finished doing a couple of other things on my end I had lost track of the 'pretend quit' aspect of your post.

    Nothing wrong with 'pretend quit', you're right. It is a good way to test the waters.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    George,

    As a good father and son I applaud you.

    Not everyone reading this has a father that will sit down with them and show them the ropes. It is almost a given that not everyone reading this even has a friend to sit down with during the temporary time-off from the bread and butter job. Do you agree?

    It also sounds like you knew your daughter could do this with her education, experience, skills, and a guiding (loving) hand. Do you think that anyone/everyone reading this thread has the same going for them?

    Like you George - I have sat down with my own son and did almost exactly what you have done with (for) your daughter. He is very good at what he does and if he kept at it he would pass me some day. However, when he wanted to turn left - I showed him that he needed to turn right - and why. Without me or someone like me he would have made honest, but costly mistakes. Those mistakes alone would have cost him money and failure.

    et all,

    The moral of this is if you don't know what you are doing, if you don't have a plan, if you do not have the benefit of someone at your side.. think long and hard before you jump in the pond with both feet.. always keep one foot on the ground.

    Now, if you know what you are doing, have a plan, the benefit of a mentor/coach/family at your side to show you the way..

    Go For It

    As long as there is nor harm done - it could be a career changer.

    Like Dennis said "George is trying to offer the idea of testing the water on a "temporary" full time basis without risking your job."

    Jeffery 100% :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonP
    I recently quit my job for IM. Best decision I ever made.
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    • Profile picture of the author KatyaSenina
      You make it sound so super easy. Write an ebook, do a WSO. May I ask you what she wrote an ebook about? Or made an WSO for?

      She didn't seem motivated at first, little did she know about marketing and she made some pocket change within a week?
      That's amazing...I mean some people struggle for weeks on their ebooks/WSO's.

      Give me the details
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      • Profile picture of the author George Wright
        Originally Posted by KatyaSenina View Post

        You make it sound so super easy. Write an ebook, do a WSO. May I ask you what she wrote an ebook about? Or made an WSO for?

        She didn't seem motivated at first, little did she know about marketing and she made some pocket change within a week?
        That's amazing...I mean some people struggle for weeks on their ebooks/WSO's.

        Give me the details
        I've written ebooks in two hours that made me $1,000 and this is nothing others have done this and made many times more. I have then rewritten them with a different spin and resold them to the same people with rave reviews from all. It's not hard to hit once in a while.

        In my daughters case she chose to write an eBook on how to go to College for free. She sold it as a WSO and her eBook was picked up by people all over the world, although it was written for the American market she got a personal note from someone that said it was helping people in China.

        We've made so many mistakes in this game its not funny. Our eBooks are all over the world on hard drives with no links or dead links. .... If only.

        George Wright, P.S. I wrote a post once and a warrior sent me $50 (Oh, for the good old days of the buy me a beer mug ) because of it. I said to my self, "Heck Self, make this post a report," I did and sold another couple of hundred dollars worth of it. This was a WF Post mind you. Some people make this too hard. Please keep in mind I'm talking small potatoes. Others here are doing much, much, much, better than me because they are better marketers than me.

        PLEASE, Look in the WarRoom. READ every word by Allen Says, even if it's years old. Read the WSO posts by Bryan Kumar, John Taylor, and others (help me out here vet Warriors) and just do what they say. THIS is NOT hard to learn.
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  • Profile picture of the author ArticlePrince
    I left the restaurant business where I had worked for almost 10 years and had a college degree to do IM full time. For 3 months, life sucked. We had very little money (I hate Ramen noodles!), and I try every ebook under the sun. I finally picked one, and followed it to the letter. Now (18 months later, not get rich quick), I make 6 figures working from home, and can play with my four month old son whenever I want to. I think that the problem is that people think that IM will be easier than their day job. It's not. Work is work is work, it just depends where you want to work. The main difference here is that the work is so easily outsourced, you can quickly cut your workload as you grow. Great thread :-D
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    Very good suggestion, George. This way you get to learn about yourself and whether you're cut out for working in IM full-time, but with minimal to no risk. The important thing here is that you'll learn whether you can manage responsibilities and stay focused on what you need to do without a boss breathing down your neck, and perhaps develop that focus if you initially find that you don't have it, all while still keeping your safety net (job) and getting paid. Excellent idea for those who want to test the waters but aren't willing to take the plunge just yet (which I'd never recommend anyway unless you have already been making job-replacing income from the internet for at least 6 or more months straight, at least not in this economy).
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      Very good suggestion, George. This way you get to learn about yourself and whether you're cut out for working in IM full-time, but with minimal to no risk. The important thing here is that you'll learn whether you can manage responsibilities and stay focused on what you need to do without a boss breathing down your neck, and perhaps develop that focus if you initially find that you don't have it, all while still keeping your safety net (job) and getting paid. Excellent idea for those who want to test the waters but aren't willing to take the plunge just yet (which I'd never recommend anyway unless you have already been making job-replacing income from the internet for at least 6 or more months straight, at least not in this economy).
      I'm liking this guy more and more every time I come to these
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      The only thing I don't agree with is the last economy is in a bad
      situation comment.

      I just don't see, nor understand how the economy is in bad shape,
      and myself and so many others here are making money.

      Makes me wonder what the difference is? Ah well, another topic
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by WhoIsBenjamin View Post

        The only thing I don't agree with is the last economy is in a bad situation comment.

        I just don't see, nor understand how the economy is in bad shape,
        and myself and so many others here are making money.
        Are you kidding? The "official" unemployment rate was at 9.7 percent nationwide as of December, the latest month stats are available. The real unemployment rate is worse than that because they don't count people whose unemployment has run out or those that have quit looking for work. They don't count the underemployed either, or the partially unemployed. Count them and experts say the real unemployment/underemployment rate is around 17 percent. The "official" unemployment rate for Michigan is over 15 percent.

        Hundreds of thousands of people lose their jobs every month, and this has been going on for months and months. CNN reported that 1.8 million jobs were lost in the first quarter of last year alone.

        These lost jobs represent a lot of business going under, not just cut-backs. Some financial analysts are saying the worst is yet to come. We've already had record home foreclosures, and many are predicting businesses foreclosures are the next wave. We never used to have homeless people in my little town, but now we do.

        I hate to be a gloomy Gus, but man, you need to get out more, the signs are everywhere!
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  • Profile picture of the author houdini
    George thanks for the wisdom!

    This sounds great because I am just starting on a 2 week vacation (from my job) and I am putting this to the test.

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    • Profile picture of the author George Wright
      Originally Posted by houdini View Post

      George thanks for the wisdom!

      This sounds great because I am just starting on a 2 week vacation (from my job) and I am putting this to the test.

      Jon
      My Best to you Jon. Enjoy your two weeks and I hope you do very well. At best you can permanently quit your job if you want to and at worse you will learn some things you need to work on to do IM as you want to.

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  • Profile picture of the author AverageGuy
    I worked for a client in the passing week. It is a staffing company. They are very busy during the entire week, the phone ring seems never stop. and people come in all the time (look for job). The manager told me that more and more people are in the job market, but the # of available job is dropping.

    economy is not good? definitely true.

    if you had a job, and had a family, maybe it is better to think a little bit more before you quit the job. IM is good, but just like all other things, it is mot always good to everyone. I remeber there was a survey that says, 90% monry made in IM was earned by 2% top marketers.


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    • Profile picture of the author George Wright
      Originally Posted by AverageGuy View Post

      I worked for a client in the passing week. It is a staffing company. They are very busy during the entire week, the phone ring seems never stop. and people come in all the time (look for job). The manager told me that more and more people are in the job market, but the # of available job is dropping.

      economy is not good? definitely true.

      if you had a job, and had a family, maybe it is better to think a little bit more before you quit the job. IM is good, but just like all other things, it is mot always good to everyone. I remeber there was a survey that says, 90% monry made in IM was earned by 2% top marketers.


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      Ok, I give up. Good night. (help, someone help )
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      • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
        Originally Posted by George Wright View Post

        Ok, I give up. Good night. (help, someone help )
        Hahah

        I think some people simply scanned thru your OP without really reading it George.
        I read it and completely agree with you.

        1 or 2 weeks of total concentration to test the waters is a great idea. Then if it doesnt look like blossoming back to your job you go.

        Good onya mate

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  • Profile picture of the author kevinfar
    Hey George.

    I guess the problem is that until you have some type of business model and are certain that you can make it online, most people will not leave their 'safe' job (which might not be safe at all) and try to make it online, even if it is for a trial period.

    With that said different people will do different things and are willing to take different risks.

    So I guess it's a thing that varies with different people.

    Personally, I'm still in University. If I had the option to stop for say, a month, and work full time on IM, I would probably do so.

    However it's always good to have options in life and that is exactly the way I see University vs. IM.

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  • Profile picture of the author iwebtopia
    If only I could get just one day off from the J.O.B. to try this out, but boss won't let me. All my days already used up to take my kids and elderly parents to doctor appts., etc. I want to pursue my IM dream so I can work from home, but can't get any quality time for myself. Very, very frustrating
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    • Profile picture of the author KatyaSenina
      Originally Posted by iwebtopia View Post

      If only I could get just one day off from the J.O.B. to try this out, but boss won't let me. All my days already used up to take my kids and elderly parents to doctor appts., etc. I want to pursue my IM dream so I can work from home, but can't get any quality time for myself. Very, very frustrating
      You can call in sick... Fake a cold
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  • Profile picture of the author whippet75
    I would have to be earning a huge amount of money to quit my day job...hence, the reason this is still a hobby !
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    • Profile picture of the author iwebtopia
      Katy,

      Can't even do that, boss doesn't care. No more sick days to take and if I do call in, there will be no pay and I can't afford that because I'm barely squeaking by as it is.
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      • Profile picture of the author KatyaSenina
        Originally Posted by iwebtopia View Post

        Katy,

        Can't even do that, boss doesn't care. No more sick days to take and if I do call in, there will be no pay and I can't afford that because I'm barely squeaking by as it is.
        It sounds like the guy is really cruel... I can imagine you're not happy being in a situation like that. I suggest to save a little money every month so you can get out of this situation as soon as possible.

        May I ask you how much time you actually have in a day to do marketing?
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  • Profile picture of the author Chad Eljisr
    Trying to make a living as an internet marketer is as difficult (or easy) as any entrepreneurial project you may decide to pursue. It takes time and dedication and perseverance.

    The good part of IM is that it requires very little investment comparing to more traditional businesses, but a big disadvantage is the confusion that all the hype around IM is creating, giving the impression that people can make a fortune working a few hours per week. I am getting really allergic to sales pages that have words as "autopilot", "instant" or "millionaire"...

    What George is proposing is a smart way to test the waters. Anyway, like in any new business, you've got to have a financial safety net of a few months in case you really have this urge to completely quite your actual job.

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  • Profile picture of the author LetsGoViral
    So many people quitting their jobs? Personally, this surprises me a little bit. I mean, sure it's good to have a home business, but why does everyone has such a negative attitude towards a real job? I mean, you get constant contact with people and socialization. Due to economy and circumstances I was unable to find a job, so I took up internet marketing and it went well but I still want to work a real job in my field of education in order to get experience and socialize. Of course, a decent paying job.

    Quitting your job before you have established a good IM income is one of the silliest things a person can do especially in this economy.
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    • Profile picture of the author iwebtopia
      Originally Posted by KatyaSenina View Post

      May I ask you how much time you actually have in a day to do marketing?
      About 15 minutes in the morning before taking kids to school and 15 minutes in the evening once household responsibilities are done (if I'm lucky).

      Originally Posted by LetsGoViral View Post

      So many people quitting their jobs? Personally, this surprises me a little bit. I mean, sure it's good to have a home business, but why does everyone has such a negative attitude towards a real job?
      I am negative about "real" job because there is no freedom. I want to be my own boss for a change. As for socialization, I don't need boss and annoying coworkers. I want to choose who to associate with and when.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Puddy
    took me 6 weeks to make up my offline salary once i took the plunge, wished i had done it years before i did

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  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    Well George, that's what you get for being clever -- lots of folks replying without reading your original post.

    I think what you've proposed is a great idea. Not only will people find out if they enjoy it and if they can make a little money with it, they also will find out if they have the ability to stick to it, avoid distractions, etc...

    Day 1: I took two weeks off from work, so I have plenty of time to get this IM stuff going. Today I watched cartoons in the morning and Titanic in the afternoon. I was too emotionally spent after that to get anything done.

    Day 2: My buddy called and asked if I wanted to go shoot hoops. Game on!

    Day 3: My spouse asked me to do the household errands and chores since I'm on vacation. Pretty much ate up the whole day.

    Day 4: Finally, I got something done! I read the Warrior Forum all day. Research, ya know.

    Day 5...




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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      I read Robert Kiyosaki's "Cashflow Quadrant". A few months later my boss had a go at me for being 4 minutes late for work.

      I quit the next day. That was 3 years ago
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      • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
        everybody who posted in this thread and said it can't be done, they're right...
        and anyone who said it can be done, they are right too.

        confusing?

        you are what you think.

        thoughts are things: if you think it can be done, then because you think it, and believe it, then you WILL achieve it.

        George, great thread. I love how you're encouraging your daughter.
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      • Profile picture of the author KatyaSenina
        Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

        I read Robert Kiyosaki's "Cashflow Quadrant". A few months later my boss had a go at me for being 4 minutes late for work.

        I quit the next day. That was 3 years ago
        Come on what is 4 minutes... you did a right thing by quiting.
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      • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
        I have a realy problem with your suggestion.

        To quit my job I'd have to go get one...and in my experience no one will hire me.

        Also I'm not 100% certain but I'm pretty sure my employee would be a little annoyed if he hired me and then the next day I quit so I could pursue my career in internet marketing.

        I honestly can't remember what having a job is like but I'm pretty sure you can work a job AND do internet marketing until the income from your business overtakes your work income.

        Having said that I know I worked the hardest at my internet business when I desperately needed the money.

        You can get really resourceful and creative when you need to.

        Kindest regards,
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        • Profile picture of the author George Wright
          Originally Posted by AndrewCavanagh View Post

          I have a realy problem with your suggestion.

          To quit my job I'd have to go get one...and in my experience no one will hire me.

          Also I'm not 100% certain but I'm pretty sure my employee would be a little annoyed if he hired me and then the next day I quit so I could pursue my career in internet marketing.

          I honestly can't remember what having a job is like but I'm pretty sure you can work a job AND do internet marketing until the income from your business overtakes your work income.

          Having said that I know I worked the hardest at my internet business when I desperately needed the money.

          You can get really resourceful and creative when you need to.

          Kindest regards,
          Andrew Cavanagh
          Everyone except you Andrew.

          Oh and Michael, Allen, Brian, Bev., I didn't mean you all.

          However if it will make you feel better I'll hire you. Your hired. Now, quit before I fire you.

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        • Profile picture of the author DaveHughes
          One other point for those that refuse to get the thrust of George's OP:

          I have a career I've been in for over 20 years. I make decent money. However, I have no medical insurance benefits through my company, no retirement plan...in fact, no financial benefits of any kind other than my salary.

          Those of you that are looking for a reason to say "Don't do it" need to realize that not everyone gets all the things you think are a stumbling block to quitting your job.

          I cover my salary, and I literally DO cover everything my career provides me.

          However, George is saying (oh god...how many times must we point this out) to "fake quit"...take some vacation and see if it's right for you.

          Therefore, everyone that's naysaying in this thread needs to either read the entire thing, or stop generalizing and assuming that everyone is the same...or that everyone can't think for themselves.

          It's amazing how many people try to derail an attempt at a positive message with a boatload of "Here's why that won't work, don't try it!"
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      • Profile picture of the author Scott Henderson
        Awesome post George, a great way for those "IM Hobbiest" to become "unemployable". I say unemployable because I am today.

        6 months before my employer "quit me", I knew the writing was on the wall, that my position was going to be terminated and they would want me to relocate. During those 6 months I got a "second job", pursuing IM as a means for full time income. I did not treat it as a hobby, but as a job. When the employer broke the "bad news" to me, that I had to relocate to stay employed with them, I was at a point to where I could decide rather or not if I wanted to work for somebody else or work for myself. I chose myself.

        I could be offered employment today for $150K per year and I would turn it down because IM has made me unemployable!!

        Treat IM like a hobby and you'll get hobby income.
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      • Profile picture of the author wkly10k
        How many folks reading this thread have actually taken that plung and just quit the job 'cold turkey' and are now making a living just off the 'net?
        IF so how did you do it.....
        THANX!!
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  • I am definitely not against the idea. In fact, I am dreaming about what George is saying. But I have to say it may not be for everyone.

    Please let me elaborate my point. There are people living pay check to pay check and have a family to feed. There is really no room for mistake in generating income. If they are not already guru in IM, would you advise them to go full time in IM? This case...Nope.

    If you have a guy who is completely lost in IM (don't know where to start, who to ask, etc.)...absolute newbie. This guy may need a super long time to get up to speed in IM. Would you ask this guy to try. This case...nope. Unless this guy has time and money to waste.

    I am saying that it is the thing about the right guy, right time, right place stuff....agree? May be it is not for everyone.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Blaze
    That's a fantastic way to look at things!

    I never really thought of telling people that they could just quit for a shortwhile (i.e. take time off from their allocated leave) and do some IM during that time.

    You can do a hell of alot in just one week alone.

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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    First, George, excellent idea. Here in Florida, we get a lot of young guns who think they want to be fishing guides. I mean, come on, getting paid $400 to $1500 per day, just to go fishing? What's not to like, right?

    So they buy a boat and try it. They find out it's not about "getting paid to go fishing". First they have to go to school and get a charter captain's license, which includes a test. Then they have to find clients. Typically, most of those clients won't be experienced anglers, so there's some time teaching. Gathering bait. Hooking fish and handing the rod to the angler for the fight. Cleaning the catch. After a long day that started well before sunrise, it's time to clean and maintain the boat and tackle, do the books and the other "business" stuff.

    A few of them love it, and make a career. Many more either abandon the idea altogether, or keep it a s part-time hobby which makes them a little money.

    Sound familiar?

    Many of the more successful guys didn't start out as full-timers. They learned the ropes as part-timers, or as employees of full-timers.

    The plan you propose is a very sound one, should anyone actually read more than the subject line before hitting the reply button. (Note to the Powers That Be, maybe we should take away the reply button at the top of the post?)

    Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

    Are you kidding? The "official" unemployment rate was at 9.7 percent nationwide as of December, the latest month stats are available. The real unemployment rate is worse than that because they don't count people whose unemployment has run out or those that have quit looking for work. They don't count the underemployed either, or the partially unemployed. Count them and experts say the real unemployment/underemployment rate is around 17 percent. The "official" unemployment rate for Michigan is over 15 percent.
    Dennis, this reminds me of an editorial cartoon a few years back...

    A politician was giving a speech at a fundraiser banquet, pontificating on how his policies had created a million new jobs. The next panel showed the waiter clearing dishes, with the thought bubble "yeah, and I have three of them..."

    Finally, to several of the posters in this thread...

    If you are going to post a reply to the original post, at least READ THE DAMN THING FIRST!
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  • Profile picture of the author robvegas626
    I've tried to encourage friends of mine to get serious about IM...especially friends of mine who are stuck in dead-end jobs and are already spending hours every day surfing the web aimlessly or playing the latest idiotic game on Facebook (when they could be learning IM!)

    The problem is that IM requires so much more work than most newbies understand. And I'm reluctant to waste any more of my time trying to teach people the basics, only to have them get distracted and forget about it...so that they can keep earning points on 'Farmville'...(whatever the heck that is..)
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    • Profile picture of the author KatyaSenina
      Originally Posted by robvegas626 View Post

      The problem is that IM requires so much more work than most newbies understand. And I'm reluctant to waste any more of my time trying to teach people the basics, only to have them get distracted and forget about it...so that they can keep earning points on 'Farmville'...(whatever the heck that is..)
      hahaha LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author Hugh
    George,

    Love it! Haven't had a "JOB" in 30 years. I just look at the market and
    find out what people are looking for. After two or three days research, I
    just help them get it.

    First it was restaurant equipment. Then it was wall-to-wall carpet. Right
    now it is granite counter tops. I now use the internet as my sole (read cheap)
    form of advertising. Am adding IM products as I go.

    "Find a need and fill it" (don't know who said ot first)

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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    You know Ive just read over a couple of the responses here to this thread, and I thought I would share my story briefly....

    3 years ago, I had a cushy government job. No joke, I was earning good money, close to 100K a year and it was a breeze. I could have stayed in that job forever and got a nice payout when I left. BUT, I knew I wanted out, and I wanted out badly, so I made the decision to quit.

    I had very little money, I had no plan, infact I had absolutely no idea of what I was going to do. But what I did know was this.

    If I had sat there, asking myself "what if..?" I would STILL BE SITTING THERE TODAY.

    Its a belief issue. If you believe you can, or you cant, you're right.

    The bottom line really is this. If you want to do this full time you will. Or you can sit at your desk job, or pushing a broom for the next 40 years waiting for the "right time"

    I managed to position myself as I have done now by not only making more money, but by REDUCING NON ESSENTIAL EXPENSES.

    Read that again!

    You can have more money, which will allow you to do this full time, by either generating more forms of income, or having LESS EXPENSES. If your mobile phone, nice car and and big screen tv mean more to you than the possibility of financial freedom, then stay in your job.

    For me, I sold absolutely everything, and cleared all my debts. House, car, credit cards, loans -- you name it. I basically started my life over again. Im not kidding.

    Many people would have thought that I was mad, and what I did was extreme. But I tell you whats mad -- sitting in traffic every day, feeling frustrated at work, and having a dumbass boss in your ear every five minutes.

    Bugger that.
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    • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
      George, I'm going a little nutso on your behalf because of the folks who aren't reading beyond your title.

      So let me echo what John wrote, but a little louder...

      People -- read the original post first, then respond!


      Not like it's going to help, but we tried.

      Cheers,
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      • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
        Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

        George, I'm going a little nutso on your behalf because of the folks who aren't reading beyond your title.

        So let me echo what John wrote, but a little louder...

        People -- read the original post first, then respond!


        Not like it's going to help, but we tried.

        Cheers,
        Becky

        Too much work.
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        • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
          Originally Posted by Scott Ames View Post

          Too much work.
          Heh. Apparently.

          Hey, we're not even asking folks to read all the threads before responding. Just the first one. In full.

          ---

          Back on track...

          Most people can use George's idea for a long weekend, a week, maybe a month (depending on how much vacation time they have). It also sounds like the perfect way to jump in for teachers (since they have the summer off anyway), anyone who does seasonal work (like construction workers), etc.

          cheers,
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  • Profile picture of the author SonnyYoung
    Quit your job tomorrow? And how do you pay for medical insurance?? That's usually the deal breaker. If a family member is providing you with insurance, then you can't really say you are self-supporting. Single people don't have this luxury. If you are paying for the medical insurance yourself, what is the cost? This could easily be $2000 per month to cover both you and your family. It's important to give young people a full picture of what you are recommending. What did you tell your daughter about this aspect of being self-employed? Anyone who tries to wing it with no medical insurance is either rich or foolish. If someone in your family gets sick or has an accident, it could cost tens of thousands of dollars in a very short period of time. If you don't believe this, the next time you go to the doctor check to see how much your insurance company paid. There's no such thing as a $20 co-pay when you don't have insurance. It's 100%. My friend just went to a heart specialist and paid $450 for a half hour visit.
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    • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
      Originally Posted by SonnyYoung View Post

      Quit your job tomorrow? And how do you pay for medical insurance?? That's usually the deal breaker. If a family member is providing you with insurance, then you can't really say you are self-supporting. Single people don't have this luxury. If you are paying for the medical insurance yourself, what is the cost? This could easily be $2000 per month to cover both you and your family. It's important to give young people a full picture of what you are recommending. What did you tell your daughter about this aspect of being self-employed? Anyone who tries to wing it with no medical insurance is either rich or foolish. If someone in your family gets sick or has an accident, it could cost tens of thousands of dollars in a very short period of time. If you don't believe this, the next time you go to the doctor check to see how much your insurance company paid. There's no such thing as a $20 co-pay when you don't have insurance. It's 100%. My friend just went to a heart specialist and paid $450 for a half hour visit.
      You didn't really read the first post did you?
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      • Profile picture of the author SonnyYoung
        Hi Scott, yes, I read the original post and appreciate George's point about the pretend "quit" (ie, trial run). The point I'm trying to make is that quitting your job involves so much more than what George discussed. The concept is thrown around pretty freely by some, but not so simple to accomplish. For example, most family breadwinners here have a monthly "nut" of $2,000 - $4,000 (ie, rent/mortgage, car payments, heat, gas, electric, tuition). Your IM business must cover that, plus the what I mentioned above--medical insurance, income tax, and SS tax. It certainly can be done as many of you know, but you have to approach this carefully or you can put yourself at serious risk.
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        • Profile picture of the author Buildingfutures
          Originally Posted by SonnyYoung View Post

          Hi Scott, yes, I read the original post and appreciate George's point about the pretend "quit" (ie, trial run). The point I'm trying to make is that quitting your job involves so much more than what George discussed. The concept is thrown around pretty freely by some, but not so simple to accomplish. For example, most family breadwinners here have a monthly "nut" of $2,000 - $4,000 (ie, rent/mortgage, car payments, heat, gas, electric, tuition). Your IM business must cover that, plus the what I mentioned above--medical insurance, income tax, and SS tax. It certainly can be done as many of you know, but you have to approach this carefully or you can put yourself at serious risk.
          Its because that subject has been talked about to DEATH in this forum on hundreds and hundreds of threads asking "Should I quit my job and do full time IM?" that George didn't bring up these oh-so-important subjects in his positive thread.

          It's been covered. By now, people should know what they need to do when they quit their job and do this full time. If people haven't seen it, I'm sure there will be some kind of poster in the next day or so asking that same question again.

          George is giving the idea, and having FAITH that the rest of us will have the COMMON SENSE to take care of ourselves, because he isn't going to, Michael Hiles isn't going to, Steven Wagenheim isn't going to, Ewen Chia isn't going to. Only we can take care of us.

          AND THAT, my friend, is something that should be inherently understood.

          HOWEVER, too many lazy, lazy people think this is a pajamas business, that they don't understand what really working on this means. They think these people and their 'magic systems' are the end-all and they'll be making millions by next week, be the envy of all their friends, etc.

          This post wasn't really directed to that group. They're the clueless ones who need you preaching to them about health insurance and other crap like that. WE don't.

          Not to say there aren't clueless people in this particular thread who don't read the original post, but they're gone by the wayside anyways. If they don't pay attention, they're not getting his message, and frankly, it wasn't really to them, then, was it?

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    • Profile picture of the author Robert Puddy
      Originally Posted by SonnyYoung View Post

      Quit your job tomorrow? And how do you pay for medical insurance?? That's usually the deal breaker. If a family member is providing you with insurance, then you can't really say you are self-supporting.

      Single people don't have this luxury. If you are paying for the medical insurance yourself, what is the cost? This could easily be $2000 per month to cover both you and your family.
      So health care reform would free the masses then
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      • Originally Posted by Robert Puddy View Post

        So health care reform would free the masses then
        That's one of the biggest reasons I'm for health care reform, even a single-payer system like Canada.

        How many great business ideas never got wings because their originators were too afraid to go without health insurance? I bet it amounts to many billions of dollars worth a year.

        Back on topic...

        Pretending to quit and giving IM a shot? I'm all for it. Really quitting before generating a steady online income? You'd have to be nuts.
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  • Profile picture of the author SonnyYoung
    One other thing. Aside from being responsible for quarterly income tax, you are also responsible for Social Security tax. When you are self-employed, you are responsible for both your contribution and the employer side contribution. The rate is 15.3%. This is in addition to income tax. Those of you who have been making money know what I'm talking about, but it usually comes as a shock to newbie entrepreneurs. See ssa. gov/pubs/10022. html If you try to get around this with a corporation or S corp, there are a bunch of other snafus as well, not to mention a lawyer to help you execute it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    Making money on the internet isn't really that hard. If you have a clear plan of what you really wanna do then you won't get distracted and lost in the pile of IM products and methods.

    Just make a plan, quit your job (for a month) , work day and night on your plan, wait for the check to arrive at your door

    Yup, it's just that simple. Avoid distractions and it won't even take you a month to start making money online.

    BTW, you boss might fire you if you ask him for a month off so don't do that
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    • Profile picture of the author KatyaSenina
      Originally Posted by mohammad111 View Post

      Just make a plan, quit your job (for a month) , work day and night on your plan, wait for the check to arrive at your door
      How can you not show up for work for a whole month? That's gonna be a long cold/holiday/whatever... They will get suspicious.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Hart
    lol, George I was about to correct your spelling, which I thought was strange considering its you, then I realised "2 wrights don't make a wrong" ..... doh me lol.

    Also want to add I completly agree, but you should only do this job quitting test if you have a good or even decent plan to follow, otherwise your just setting yourself up for a fall.

    A while back I fell for a very common newbie mistake and that was "putting all your eggs in one basket". I stated a system and it went really well and I was doing £1500 - £2000 per week (£GBP), all was great untill ...... over night the system changed and I went to £00000 !

    This leads me onto newbie msitake I fell for number 2, I didn't save or reinvest any of my earnings, I know your thinking idiot right?

    I say the idea is very plausible and really works for some people inlcuding me but make sure you have a good system to follow and spread your risk if the system is unproved in anyway.

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  • Profile picture of the author P.Sharma
    I would never quit my job to do something online full time. I would much rather have an offline business and outsource the handling of the OFFLINE business to a staff while I just sit there working online on my laptop and making bank from both my online and offline ventures
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  • Profile picture of the author areaK
    I agree, but also disagree.

    I would never tell anyone to quit their job to make money online because it takes a lot of time, energy and effort for most people to make enough money online to support themselves.

    But I do agree that if you have some benefit time, where you will still be getting paid, it can't hurt to take that time to focus on your start but I wouldn't quit until I was making enough money consistently. That wouldn't be smart unless someone is going to support you in the meantime - and in the meantime can mean a month or a year, or even more in some people's cases. Everyone varies on how fast or how slow they will start making money, and keep making it.

    What I did was work online part-time while I still worked my day job. Once I was well enough established to make a full-time living from it, then I said KISS A$$ to a day job and that was about, well geez now that I think about it, I guess 5 years ago! I would never go back to a day job...unless something terrible happened where I couldn't make money online anymore for some reason of course.

    Great story though!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kavita_D
    Being your own boss and working from home is a dream come true! I was working full time and felt that I was just working for the sake of paying off my bills. Until I came across internet marketing! Yes I did leave my full time job but went part time until I made a break throw in internet marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Bronson
    @George - This is a good idea taking a "pretend quitting" to work solely on IM and try your hand. I would be surprised if even a month off would be enough time given the common newbie information overload... but that is where something like the 30 day challenge could come in I suppose. Working IM concurrently with a job is a great way to go.

    Originally Posted by LetsGoViral View Post

    So many people quitting their jobs? Personally, this surprises me a little bit. I mean, sure it's good to have a home business, but why does everyone has such a negative attitude towards a real job? I mean, you get constant contact with people and socialization.
    Some of us just hate jobs with a passion, due to the micro management, sterility of the whole situation, constant struggle/grind day after day and non linear paths to upward mobility. Let's face it, many times if someone is GOOD at their job, does a boss really want to promote them? If they did.. then a replacement for YOU would have to be found. Instead jobs usually take the mediocre worker who is buddies with everyone and less dynamic and promote them into management. Can one stay with a job these days until retirement and get a cushy pension on which to retire? Not likely.

    Again this is my personal experience, with two college degrees and 30+ jobs later, jobs aren't for me. I do sometimes take them for a few months out of the year to help with cash flow until they are no longer needed. Even in this economy after a few months of searching I scored a decent $30k year job, with the potential to double my salary within months... so I'll ride it out and keep padding my "emergency fund", which I'm trying to get up to 1 year's worth of living expenses.

    And as per constant contact with people and socialization... I'd way rather stay home and not have to utter a single word the whole day and just work on the computer morning til night. Although per my niche, I do get to set up vending tables/booths at various events and have interaction. Again, perhaps this is my biased, sort of negative view towards jobs from my experience only, I've seen others have a much more positive experience. I'm single (well sort of), no kids, 35, 1 family member that lives far away, no pets... so it's easier for me to do IM full time than someone with all of the above... then I can completely understand being a lot more careful with quitting a job when others depend on you.


    Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post


    You can have more money, which will allow you to do this full time, by either generating more forms of income, or having LESS EXPENSES. If your mobile phone, nice car and and big screen tv mean more to you than the possibility of financial freedom, then stay in your job.

    For me, I sold absolutely everything, and cleared all my debts. House, car, credit cards, loans -- you name it. I basically started my life over again. Im not kidding.

    Many people would have thought that I was mad, and what I did was extreme. But I tell you whats mad -- sitting in traffic every day, feeling frustrated at work, and having a dumbass boss in your ear every five minutes.

    Bugger that.
    I agree 100%. There are so many excess items laying around that could be turned into cash to fund a venture. I've sold all of those non necessary things also and don't even have TV, it just sits there until I watch a dvd occassionally. I keep a piece of paper in my wallet with columns for expenses/income/notes and write down every penny I spend.. this greatly helps always know where you are, and can do proper planning and also see if you wasting too much $$ on anything. That is such a smart move clearing all of your debts ramone_johnny. I drive a 20 year old car, no debts except a 2nd college loan which isn't going away any time soon. Usually if your going against the flow and running the opposite direction of everyone else.. your on the right track, so your far from mad!
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  • Profile picture of the author hollypowell
    I love the idea that you have laid out "quit" for a week--take a vacation--and work your passion. I did the opposite--I worked my day job and worked my passion for 6 years until the day I finally said "I quit effectively immediately" after 17 1/2 years.

    It's not that I was making millions--it's that I was making enough to quit--and that gave me more time to work on my passion.

    In other words; I finally gave myself permission to quit!

    Great post George!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
    George - what timing. Today is Sunday, the end of a week of vacation I took off of work to decide if I could pursue IM full time or not.

    My objectives were to find out:

    How much time I could put in online each day without burnout? (I really already knew the answer. I'm a computer junkie. I can do 16 hours and not bat an eyelash - although my Starbucks expense increased.)

    What does it feel like to be working from home each day? (GLORIOUS!)

    How much new content could I generate in a week? (I'm pretty damn fast when I have to be, turns out.)

    Could I start something and make money with it in the same week? (Yes.)

    Could I focus what with the husband at home and the kids coming and going all day? (Yes - secluded on the patio in the AZ desert is not a bad office at all, even with the major rainstorm we had this week.)

    How would I feel at the end of the week? (More relaxed than I've felt in years.)

    I have a very nice, very desirable job with excellent benefits. I HATE it. It's literally sucking the life out of me. I started learning IM a year ago. I'm still learning. After 6 months of working hard but spinning my wheels, I finally found some traction and my income started growing. I do have a couple of models that work for me and which I can expand.

    I'm also the sole breadwinner for a family of 5. Any change I make has to account for my family so during the week I did something else. My background is financial accounting and banking. I'm a numbers nerd. I built a massive spreadsheet of possible scenarios of what might happen if I made this my full time job. All savings, expenses, extra expenses, additional insurance needs, taxes, emergencies, various income levels, income projections, and backup plans are in the spreadsheet. It's over 30 tabs of information and 25 what-if financial scenarios.

    I made phone calls to the HR department at work - how EXACTLY would all final checks and disbursements be calculated if I were to leave? I called a retirement account manager - how EXACTLY could funds be managed, taxed, accounted for, accessed? I ran the plan past my dad, a retired CFO, and asked him how I could further bullet-proof my plan. (He's running it past some additional acquaintances, as well.) I talked to my husband. We'd been leading up to this for months, and while he'd love it if I worked happily where I was until retirement, he knows I'm not happy and has given his support - just needed all the details. I researched all options to replace medical, dental, vision, life, and disability insurance and got quotes on monthly expenses. I reviewed the IRS website on self-employment taxes, filing requirements, and deductions.

    Have I thought of everything? Probably not, but I feel pretty good about not making the decision lightly. Am I confident I can be successful? Yes - and I think that accounts for a lot. Am I financially secure for at least a year? Yes. Do I have backup plans in case something doesn't go as planned? Yes.

    I've read through the other recent posts on the subject. I know some will think me crazy for even considering giving up a good, steady job - especially with a family. But the job is negatively impacting my stress and health and that's not good for me or my family, either. That's why I had to go the extra mile to work through the details. Everyone's situation is different. Young, debt-free, and childless is different from not-quite-so-young, carrying the average debt and supporting a family - and there are all the various levels in between.

    George, you made an excellent suggestion with the fake-quitting approach. You can learn an awful lot about yourself and your capabilities during that time. Others have pointed out the reality of the real-quitting approach. Both are important.

    In the end, no matter which approach a person chooses, the thread provided valuable information - and inspiration - to those who have even the slightest inkling that they may want to pursue IM full time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lisa Gergets
    Awesome post, George, and an excellent idea to do the pretend-quit thing!

    I'm going full time into IM in April and I'm scared ****less, but I also know I'll succeed. It's exciting, and scary, and 99% of people think I'm completely crazy, but that other 1% knows me well...
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    • Profile picture of the author jayanuaria
      Originally Posted by Lisa Gergets View Post

      Awesome post, George, and an excellent idea to do the pretend-quit thing!

      I'm going full time into IM in April and I'm scared ****less, but I also know I'll succeed. It's exciting, and scary, and 99% of people think I'm completely crazy, but that other 1% knows me well...

      Same situation here.. 99% thinks IM crazy because I had a good job but I left it last month. I dont mind them, Im just thnking about those 1% who believe that I can. Ive been workin in IM fulltime for 1 month now and Im learning a lot and I can say that Im doin good and I know I will never look back.


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  • By definition, being an entrepreneur (online or offline) carries a high degree of risk. In this business, you must be willing to take risks. So, quitting your day job to become a full-time IM'er is a MUST-DO, sooner or later, if you eventually want to make it.

    Fear and laziness are usually your biggest enemies on this business. If you quit your day job, you will spur yourself to overcome both. Otherwise you'll be taking half-ass attempts to IM without ever giving your best.

    I quit my job a while back and it was the best decision I ever made. At the beginning it was TOUGH and it took a while to get rolling (make sure you have some cash saved up), but it was necessary to succeed.
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    • Profile picture of the author takahashii
      I injured my knee playing football early in '09 and was given 6 weeks paid leave. I couldn't move off the sofa but was able to give my sites the time they needed and was effectively a full time IM for 6 weeks.

      The knee injury was the best thing that had ever happened to me as the sites now bring in more than my day job

      I wouldn't quit my day time job though - IM can bring me decent money but it can never be guaranteed (in my niche).

      It's also a solitary existence and I enjoy the crack with my colleagues so I'll continue with my day job for now
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by KatyaSenina View Post

        How can you not show up for work for a whole month? That's gonna be a long cold/holiday/whatever... They will get suspicious.
        It depends on the company. If you get 2 weeks per year, you could schedule your vacation times back to back and get 28 days.

        Other companies let you accumulate sick time and convert it into vacation after a certain period. My wife's uncle worked for a public university and did this - his last day of showing up for work was almost eight months before his last official day.

        Even if you could only manage a week or two at a time, these practice runs are a good alternative to going cold turkey without covering the bases.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    I know this is a little off-topic (I have read the original post in this thread!), but I couldn't resist. In response to some posters talking about health insurance and social security issues when you're full time in IM, this is why I say that if you want to get into IM for the long haul (full time), you have to shoot for the stars and hopefully hit the moon, the often quoted axiom "go big or go home" most definitely applies here! I have never understood why people would wish "if only I could make $100 per day in IM, I could quit my job" (it's usually around this $100/day figure or some similarly low figure). If you want to go full-time in IM, you had better hope for something way beyond job-replacing income, especially in light of the tax and healthcare issues! After all, you got into IM for the lifestyle and the freedom, right? It doesn't sound very life-altering when all you're aiming for is replacing the income from your present job, and this is why I have never understood the paltry goals that some IMers have.
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  • Profile picture of the author karlhadwen
    Great Post George,

    But I really think you should only quit your job ONCE you're bringing in a reasonable income from Internet Marketing, as you can't go quit your job tomorrow as many people have people to feed and bills to pay.

    None the less nice motivation.
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    • Profile picture of the author Buildingfutures
      Originally Posted by karlhadwen View Post

      Great Post George,

      But I really think you should only quit your job ONCE you're bringing in a reasonable income from Internet Marketing, as you can't go quit your job tomorrow as many people have people to feed and bills to pay.

      None the less nice motivation.
      I think you need to reread the post.

      He's saying take time off. NOT OUTRIGHT QUIT THE JOB.

      Pretend-quit, vacation time, sick days, A THREE DAY WEEKEND.

      The post is about making some extra time to try it out, get back to life, and then see how your internet marketing does from that trial time.

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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
    I think George is saying "Everyone quit your job"

    I'm sure that's it.

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  • Profile picture of the author gtt
    Erica just said the exact thing, agree with that :-)

    Nice point on that, Dave :-)

    Been into IM for a couple months now and as a newbie, I can say that it's amazingly different from what I was doing before. How I wish had been introduced to these stuffs offering great opportunities, for a long time. Having been into those "crappy jobs" in the past haven't been beneficial to me at all.

    This is a great post, you picked one good topic, George... Thumbs up!

    Regards all,
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  • Profile picture of the author Abct
    I've quit my job. But I'm looking for another job at the moment, but with hard work I should be able to push my IM skills up a level and I won't have to look for that next job
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  • Like I said on my previous post, either you give it a serious go or you'll never go anywhere in this business. And in order to give it a serious go, you need to take risks and to sacrifice certain things (your comfy job and the security it brings home).

    It's impossible to take a serious stab at anything by doing it only 2 or 3 hours a day, after having worked 8 hours on your day job when you're tired and dry.

    Eventually, if you want to make it on IM, you WILL have to do it full time which means quitting your day job. Just make sure to have some cash saved up because it will take time to start making any decent money on the net.
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  • Profile picture of the author BonganiS
    That sounds good. I am thinking of using a one month leave. I really want to work on my Home business full time.



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  • Profile picture of the author markshields
    Giving up your carer to pursue a Internet Marketing is a big risk. In Internet marketing there a re lot of effort and time spend to really in the business. i suggest that you make the internet marketing be part time or just a extra income to you. It's still best that you have a steady and good job.
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    • Profile picture of the author traceye
      Can I give up my family? If I didn't have to look after the kids, clean house, get dinner on the table and be a nice little housewife I'd have much more time for IM.

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  • Profile picture of the author KatyaSenina
    Quiting is definitely a big risk. Since I'm just starting out in IM I haven't seen any profits yet. Though I have lost my job almost 8 months ago...I fired myself. Had a job interview 2 weeks ago, they gave me hope...told me I could start part time in 2 weeks. Haven't heard from them since. I called them up yesterday, the manager wasn't present. I called today and you know what they say? They suddenly don't have a position for me anymore. She changed her mind and she doesn't need anyone at the moment.

    There goes my hope... What's next?

    I think IM is what's left, but how long will it take before I see any profits? Nobody knows. The financial stress is breaking me up.
    I really don't have the motivation to look for another job after today's rejection. This goes on for 8 months already.

    Guys if you have a job stick to it until you see real profits... I have learned my lesson.
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  • This thread is really an eye-opener to how many people just aren't paying attention. How much good information is on these forums that they read but never actually see? No wonder the failure rate in IM is so high.

    Anyhow, I want to focus on one point the OP made besides the obvious (which somehow has been beyond the grasp of so many) that really stood out to me.

    Note how the OP said his daughter found her first success by focusing one one thing. I think it's safe to say that most people aren't doing that. It's too easy to get distracted, but you've heard it time and time again that if you jsut took one of those WSO's or one of those programs and ran with it, you could make it happen.

    But every time you turn a corner there's someone else saying it can't be done or it's been overdone, etc. Take the OP's advice on this--grab something, take a vaction, and run with it. If you pour some energy into one of the good strategies you see, you can make it work.

    George, I like what you've said here, and I think it's a great balance between the responsbile route and the risk-taking route that so many newbie IM'ers find theirselves torn between.

    Also, KatyaSenina, please don't think any of the above was directed at you, but if it's really that bad, you should start doing some freelancing until you've got a stable income. You can learn a lot by providing services for internet marketers making money, and if you approach the business right you stand to make a lot of money, regardless of what you might think when you see what other people are charging.

    Feel free to PM me if you want some info on getting started.

    there's no reason why you can't make money online--I was pretty bad off myself, but now I'm at the point where I'm turning work away. Sure, it's not passive, but at least it's working for yourself, and it doesn't sound like you have a lot of options right now. A lot of people hurting in this economy, but there's still opportunity out there.

    Best of Luck,
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    • Profile picture of the author Peter Bestel
      Excellent OP George

      It's a great way to dip your toe in and see if you want to venture any further, without losing the so-called security of a J.O.B. - Market research I believe they used to call it

      Originally Posted by dru-man View Post

      This thread is really an eye-opener to how many people just aren't paying attention.
      And that's certainly true! The thing I've noticed about any kind of thread that's suggesting even a minimum of risk taking, is that it brings out the TAFYs - The 'That's Alright For You' bunch.

      This thread is littered with folk who are refusing to see opportunity, they're just too busy seeing all the reasons why NOT to do something. I'm not disputing that life is darn tough for some, but they're all too keen to dismiss the possibility that anyone who's making money once had it tough too.

      You don't need to hear my sob story, but suffice as to say that illness, huge debt and redundancy all played their part in my success and were the very driving forces that spurred me on.

      So, don't ever say or imply, 'that's alright for you', or 'you don't understand' - how dare you be so presumptuous.

      Life CAN be hard. It can sometimes feel that it's hitting you when you're down and seemingly leaving you no options. Well, you've ALWAYS got options.

      Stuck in a crappy job and feeling like you're dependent on it? Yep, been there.

      Living from pay check to pay check with too much month left at the end of the money? Yep, been there.

      Got family to feed and not sleeping because you feel responsible and don't know where to turn? Yep, been there too.

      And they are the very reasons I dipped my toe into IM and got off my arse to change things.

      But maybe you're not like me. Maybe you'll always see the negative, the reasons 'not to'. The sad thing is, you'll never enjoy life as much as you might - you'll continue to struggle and complain and stating to everyone who's made any brave move, "That's Alright For You!"

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  • Profile picture of the author Hugh
    George wants me to quit so he can take my job!!!
    Well George "Take this job and ......................"

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  • Profile picture of the author LazyViking
    You know what?

    I'm going to do this. My consulting business isn't growing nearly as fast as I'd like, and the #1 excuse I tell myself is because I can't cold-call businesses to get new clients after normal business hours.

    So either this Thursday, or Tuesday/Thursday of next week, I'm waking up on time, calling in sick, clearing off my desk and acting like I'm a full-time marketing consultant who needs to land a new client or he's not going to pay his bills.

    Thanks for the kick in the ass!
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  • Profile picture of the author Affiliateprocom
    I got to tell you, if your thinking about quitting your day job to go into IM full time.. Then you better step back and take a look at how driven you are and how bad you want it.

    I'm sure there's a ton of people that have done or are doing that very same thing and the majority of them are wondering, "Why did I quit my day job"?

    If you have never made any money online before and have no experience, and you think that just by having a computer and internet connection will generate the cash you need to survive then take my advice and DON'T QUIT YOUR DAY JOB!

    Don't get me wrong, everyone has the same opportunity to make money online, you just have to educate yourself and get some serious IM tools in your arsenal. Find a mentor that would be willing to show you the ropes and point you in the right directions.

    Once you get off on the right foot and are headed in the right direction (making money)
    then take a look at your options and if it feels right "Go for It"

    I'm really new in this forum but I've been in here reading GREAT content for most the day, and there seems to be some great tools too..... so spend some time in here and take the good advice before you take the leap
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    • Originally Posted by Affiliateprocom View Post

      I got to tell you, if your thinking about quitting your day job to go into IM full time.. Then you better step back and take a look at how driven you are and how bad you want it.

      I'm sure there's a ton of people that have done or are doing that very same thing and the majority of them are wondering, "Why did I quit my day job"?

      If you have never made any money online before and have no experience, and you think that just by having a computer and internet connection will generate the cash you need to survive then take my advice and DON'T QUIT YOUR DAY JOB!

      Don't get me wrong, everyone has the same opportunity to make money online, you just have to educate yourself and get some serious IM tools in your arsenal. Find a mentor that would be willing to show you the ropes and point you in the right directions.

      Once you get off on the right foot and are headed in the right direction (making money)
      then take a look at your options and if it feels right "Go for It"

      I'm really new in this forum but I've been in here reading GREAT content for most the day, and there seems to be some great tools too..... so spend some time in here and take the good advice before you take the leap
      lol Just a hunch, but something tells me that this whole day reading on this forum wasn't spent on this thread here...
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    • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
      Originally Posted by Affiliateprocom View Post

      I got to tell you, if your thinking about quitting your day job to go into IM full time.. Then you better step back and take a look at how driven you are and how bad you want it.

      I'm sure there's a ton of people that have done or are doing that very same thing and the majority of them are wondering, "Why did I quit my day job"?

      If you have never made any money online before and have no experience, and you think that just by having a computer and internet connection will generate the cash you need to survive then take my advice and DON'T QUIT YOUR DAY JOB!
      OK, wait. I just had a crazy idea. Oooh, this is a good one...

      Hear me out.

      What if -- just imagine this for a second -- what if someone would just "pretend" to quit their job?

      Like what if they "quit" their job for one week, maybe two weeks. And instead of going on vacation, they used that time to work on their business?

      Working full time on their business for a few weeks would give them a good feel as to whether they're cut out for this stuff.

      Ooh, and another idea! They could "pretend quit" multiple times. They could go gungho on their business during these "pretend quit" times... but then they always go back to work.

      So, what do you think?

      Tell ya what -- if I had a daughter named Tammy that's what I'd tell her to do. Yep.

      cheers,
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      • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
        Quitting your job is crazy!! What about the bills the health care and the expenses?

        Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

        OK, wait. I just had a crazy idea. Oooh, this is a good one...

        Hear me out.

        What if -- just imagine this for a second -- what if someone would just "pretend" to quit their job?

        Like what if they "quit" their job for one week, maybe two weeks. And instead of going on vacation, they used that time to work on their business?

        Working full time on their business for a few weeks would give them a good feel as to whether they're cut out for this stuff.

        Ooh, and another idea! They could "pretend quit" multiple times. They could go gungho on their business during these "pretend quit" times... but then they always go back to work.

        So, what do you think?

        Tell ya what -- if I had a daughter named Tammy that's what I'd tell her to do. Yep.

        cheers,
        Becky
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