Ok, Is All This BS Any Good?

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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
    You're not going to like my answer.

    Nobody here can be your conscience. If your business model bothers you,
    change it. If you can't or won't change it, learn to live with it.
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    • Profile picture of the author ToniMaltano
      Thanks for the answers guys. I won't change my business model because
      I really can't right now. I just ask myself most of the times if the product
      is really any good and if it will help others who are in need for a solution.

      Have you guys never felt that?

      It is not like I am crying everytime I make a sale But you know I am
      just human and care for other humans. I want them to be good you know.


      Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

      You're not going to like my answer.

      Nobody here can be your conscience. If your business model bothers you,
      change it. If you can't or won't change it, learn to live with it.
      Your reply got me thinking Steve, maye I should start creating my own
      niche products and put the best in them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnathan
    Make sure if you are going to endorse products that you either personally review them, so that you can feel good about them. If you don't, then stop selling them.
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  • Profile picture of the author cidrok
    Toni if you have trouble sleeping at night you have a problem. If you are giving advice to people and you are not qualified you are on dangerous ground, however, if you are just linking people up with information that is readily available anyway i suggest that is as far as you go.
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    • Profile picture of the author Greggg
      If you have questions about the products you promote, spend the money to buy them and actually review them yourself for real. If you think they are crappy, don't promote them.

      Don't answer emails. Even in my niches where I actually have expertise, I don't do this on emails that ask for advice. I'd be spending all day on hundreds of emails working for free. It's a business. I make it clear in my newsletters and on my about me/contact page that I read every email I receive but can't possibly respond to them all on an individual basis, etc.

      Gregg
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      • Profile picture of the author butters
        If you feel that products lack in certain niches, what is stopping you from hiring an expert to write you an ebook and sell one you know is good?
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  • Profile picture of the author Bayo
    The best way to really 'get behind' a product is to actually buy it and see for yourself if it's any good to promote. If it is you're on to a winner (so as to speak)

    If it's not you can sleep well at night knowing that you did the right thing in taking that one extra step.

    As Steven "Said "Nobody here can be your conscience. If your business model bothers you, change it. If you can't or won't change it, learn to live with it."
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  • Profile picture of the author ToniMaltano
    I wil start creating my own stuff soon I guess.
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    • Profile picture of the author butters
      Originally Posted by Toni Maltano View Post

      You guys are right. I need to be less emotional about this.
      Business is Business.

      And this business is responsible for Big Six Figures last year.

      Let's do some business. But I wil start creating my own stuff soon I
      guess.
      Your make more money that way full commission on sales, then you could also get affiliates to promote them products for you. I wish you the best of luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author DejanM
    I couldn't get myself to promote products just because of that. So I dumped that idea, looked at what me and my company are capable of, found a problem and now we're developing a solution.

    I think this is always the best process to go with.
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  • Profile picture of the author duncanb
    I think every IM'er has asked themselves this question.
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  • Profile picture of the author ToniMaltano
    Yup Dejan,

    I think that is exactly what I will do. Invest some of the money I earned to create
    high f****** qualitiy solutions.

    Thanks Lee barlett for pushing me and motivating me

    Thanks for all you warriors replying here.
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    • Profile picture of the author duncanb
      Originally Posted by Toni Maltano View Post

      Yup Dejan,

      I think that is exactly what I will do. Invest some of the money I earned to create
      high f****** qualitiy solutions.

      Thanks for all you warriors replying here.
      That's the spirit!
      And stick by this philosophy.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gary King
      Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

      You're not going to like my answer.

      Nobody here can be your conscience. If your business model bothers you,
      change it. If you can't or won't change it, learn to live with it.

      IMHO, Steve's got it down, big time.


      Originally Posted by Toni Maltano View Post

      Yup Dejan,

      I think that is exactly what I will do. Invest some of the money I earned to create
      high f****** qualitiy solutions.

      Thanks Lee barlett for pushing me and motivating me

      Thanks for all you warriors replying here.
      No offense Toni, but you keep saying things like "I think that is exactly what I will do" and "But I wil start creating my own stuff soon I
      guess."

      Be positive - you are making money AND you are helping people! If those sales aren't coming back as refunds, then you ARE helping.

      I can't tell you to spend hours and hours answering emails for nothing - that would not be a good business model if you asked me...

      However, remember this: You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. (credit to wherever that old tired saying originated)

      People in desperate niches have to help themselves. You can offer (hopefully) good resources, but it's like IM - if you buy everything the instant it launches, and spend hours refreshing your email to see if the early access link is live for the next thing (without ever looking at the last thing you bought), well....

      Hope it helps your sanity... if not, consider the complete web sites for sale forum?

      All success.

      Gary
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  • Profile picture of the author webdesk
    I have stayed out of certain product niches because I can not personally get behind them. But that is not what product marketing on the internet is about, so I have opened up a little bit. If a product is not objectionable, if the promises are not blatantly wrong, and the competion sites reasonable with their approach, I'll now consider it.

    We are marketers. We have a business. If I had an ad agency, I certainly won't turn away business because I started to second guess the product. I look at it as, is there a way I can promote this product and make money for the company that hired me? We are affiliate marketers, we make money for the product holders. Our job is to find a way to truthfully and convincingly create promotions to do that. If we do, we get paid.

    If HOW I market it is not going to agree with me, then I don't do that product; making a million does not offset advertising a questionable product.

    But, it sounds like these couple of niche products are not objectionable, there is just that personal dilemma you are facing. Since your customers have a need, and the product is satisfying that need, one way to judge the effectiveness are the returns and refunds. If you said anything about that, I missed it.

    Instead, these people are turning to you for help. That's good, but it probably keeps you busy in an area where you don't want to spend so much time. You're an affilaite marketer, not a advice giver. When an advertising is done, the product holder runs with it, maybe some salespeople too. They are in the forefront after that, the ad agency has been removed from the relationship.

    So how can we, as marketers find a way to distance ourselves from the customers, or potential customers as advice givers but still stay on as a salesperson? Our main job is to market, to advertise. The program we're in should be the one to deliver most of the intangibles, shouldn't it?

    Maybe there has to be something added in the presell or sales copy to help alliviate all of the email?

    Am I making any sense?
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  • Profile picture of the author busting
    Hey Toni,

    I sometimes also feel like this. And you know what? If I was earning what you are
    earning I would be making my own products and outsource everything.

    And I know you a great guy since you helped me tremendously via email and
    without charging anything. I enjoyed it. But business is business and giving
    info for free when you are an infomarketer is not the right thing I guess.
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    Damn I should have taken a screenshot of that PPC ad. DAMN !!!!!!!

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  • Profile picture of the author areaK
    It's great that you have a conscious =) but the truth is you're no different than a lot of affiliate marketers.

    If it bothers you, try to think of products you HAVE used or problems that you or someone you know HAVE had and how they resolved. Them. Walk through your house and write down everything you see that is a potential...look in your medicine cabinet, look on your shelves, look at everything around you that you use. What do your kids use/have used? Husband? Mom, dad, brother, sister, neighbors, friends, co-workers? What problems have they had that they solved that you know about?
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  • Profile picture of the author jennypitts
    If you are just one more member marketing (affiliate program) and driving traffic to see the information at the site. There is nothing to worry about! But if your are the one running the show you should know and like what you are doing.
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