What is it with Mac users.

14 years ago

Ahaha, brilliant.

I use my windows laptop for everything. Yes, at time's it's a total pain but theres always the upside of the fact that I can use my computer with almost any program on the internet.

For those with a Mac, L Wilson makes an excellent point.

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DejanM

14 years ago

Mac users can always use Parallels or VMware for dual-booting Windows. But as usual, people are lazy and also costs go up a little bit. It's easier to have everything on one system and one folder.

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Lee Wilson 14 years ago

Originally Posted by DejanM

It's easier to have everything on one system and one folder.

Yeah, that I can fully understand but if a certain piece of software is going to be really useful then I would consider it a small price to pay.
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KarlWarren

14 years ago

Until I sold my Mac because I now work exclusively from my laptop, I had 3 computers...

Mac
PC Desktop
PC Laptop

I will say this though, I will be getting a Mac again

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James12C

14 years ago

PC

Mac (which runs Fusion for Windows)

MacBook

I know - 'm seeing a doctor about it......

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KarlWarren 14 years ago

Originally Posted by James12C

PC

Mac (which runs Fusion for Windows)

MacBook

I know - 'm seeing a doctor about it......

PHEW! So it's not just me then

Because I was travelling a lot, I managed to streamline everything I did and ended up working from my laptop - which I've now got down to an art. Sadly, my Mac ended up being a very pretty (did I mention VERY) ornament.
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Jesus Perez

14 years ago

I bought a Dell 2.44ghz Quad Core PC with 4gb of ram and a 512mb NVidia Video Card for $400. Windows XP included.

How much would that cost me on Mac?

Seems around $2000. Plus I won't be able to purchase 50% of the software I currently use.

And it hasn't crashed once in the 4 years I've owned it.

**Don't have to cross my fingers, I use Mozy.

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Arun Pal Singh

14 years ago

I never used Mac. SO I cannot tell the difference.

But I never felt the need for Mac though.

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iYingHang

14 years ago

Well, on Mac you could always use Parallels or VmWare Fusion for Windows. I just finished my FiFa on VMWare. xD

Mac just simply rocks.

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Scott Lundergan

14 years ago

As a side note, running Snow Leopard gave my VMWare/PC side of my Mac alot more horsepower.

I just usually have the PC side of my Mac open when running PC only apps. It's really not a big hassle, although it use to be when I was on a slower Mac and my Virtual Processor settings weren't optimized.

Having the ability to swap files back and forth between the two OS's works out great.

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Dan C. Rinnert

14 years ago

Originally Posted by L Wilson

If most software, tools or anything that can help with your business aren't available for Mac, why not just get a PC and use it as well?

Why encourage companies to not make Mac versions by buying a PC? Does no one remember the axiom that the customer is always right? Better for customers to support those who support their platform of choice.

There are plenty of software developers, including small developers, who make Mac and PC versions of their software. So, when a company chooses not to make a Mac version, clearly they don't want any extra business from Mac users. Why should Mac users buy a PC to buy their software and support them?

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butters

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

So, when a company chooses not to make a Mac version, clearly they don't want any extra business from Mac users.

I wouldn't agree with that, they would obviously want more business but they have to look at how much it is going to cost, programing, maintaining, error fixxing etc. Some companies just don't have the budgets to maintain two different versions, the bigger companies, some don't see it as worth it. Thats my opinion anyway.

To the OP, a Mac can have both operating systems, when you use windows on a mac, it runs exactly like a normal windows pc. There are a lot of reasons why macs are known to be better, stability, no viruses, better OS and more importantly, the support you get from apple is far superior to microsoft.

Another reason why I like mac compared to microsoft is because it is made by Apple, I prefer Apple to microsoft any day of the week. Most of the time when Apple release a product, it is good and this is what helps me make my decision to move to mac.

Also, are PC's really that much cheaper then a mac? A mac cost 2k out right and you will never have to update it, a pc costs 500 bucks but will require virus protections, hardware updates and even possibly a new PC after a few years.

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Dan C. Rinnert

14 years ago

Originally Posted by butters

I wouldn't agree with that, they would obviously want more business but they have to look at how much it is going to cost, programing, maintaining, error fixxing etc. Some companies just don't have the budgets to maintain two different versions, the bigger companies, some don't see it as worth it. Thats my opinion anyway.

From a customer perspective, when you see big companies like Adobe have Mac and PC versions and little one and two person software shops with Mac and PC versions, it does give you the impression that those that choose not to have a Mac version do so because they just don't want the business.

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MJ Schaefer 14 years ago

I use a Mac.

The Mac has features called Expose and Spaces. By simply dragging the cursor to a designated corner of the desktop (or by punching in a hotkey), I can open up to 16 separate desktops.

So instead of having one desktop that is cluttered with applications, I can have a new desktop for each and every application if I wish to (one for Firefox, one for TextEdit, one for Dreamweaver etc). I have a dedicated Space for VMWareFusion, which runs XP in full screen; it is just like running a PC when I enter that Space, and it runs a heck of a lot better than any of my former PCs.

But the interesting thing from my perspective is how little I actually need to use Windows...

Adobe tools such as Photoshop and Dreamweaver are available for Mac. The likes of Market Samurai and Keyword Elite run on Mac. So do Mindjet Mindmanager, Tweetdeck, Skype, Comic Life, Open Office.

Wordpress, Gmail, Google Chrome, SEOMoz tools, Firefox extensions et al are web-based. There's no need for Roboform when you have 1Password. And then there are some knockout applications that are exclusive to the Mac.

And it is worth mentioning that the Mac runs faster than any PC I have ever used, it never crashes, and it is exceptionally intuitive and easy to organise.

If anything, a return to the PC would decrease my productivity.
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CarloD.

14 years ago

I use PC, and have been for the last 13 years... I don't have issues with it. I don't mind MAC either, but I would agree, if majority of tools are built for PC, why not have both if you are a "MAC" person.

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Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

Why encourage companies to not make Mac versions by buying a PC? Does no one remember the axiom that the customer is always right? Better for customers to support those who support their platform of choice.

There are plenty of software developers, including small developers, who make Mac and PC versions of their software. So, when a company chooses not to make a Mac version, clearly they don't want any extra business from Mac users. Why should Mac users buy a PC to buy their software and support them?

I'm torn on this one, I'm having trouble answering without admitting I'm a hypocrite!

This is no doubt cutting your nose off to spite your face but I'm an expert at sticking to my principles when it suits me!

Why does MAC constantly RIP at PC... just look at the commercials, where would MAC be without PC? Thats my beef with MAC... they constantly try to say how they are "better". and PC sucks.... which is clearly not true.

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butters

14 years ago

Originally Posted by CarloD.

I use PC, and have been for the last 13 years... I don't have issues with it. I don't mind MAC either, but I would agree, if majority of tools are built for PC, why not have both if you are a "MAC" person.

Why does MAC constantly RIP at PC... just look at the commercials, where would MAC be without PC? Thats my beef with MAC... they constantly try to say how they are "better". and PC sucks.... which is clearly not true.

Why is this untrue? What makes a PC better then a mac.

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Lee Wilson 14 years ago

With respect, this is turning into a Mac vs PC debate which has nothing to do with the point I was making. My point is when I see people say it's a shame they can't use something because it isn't ported to Mac then why not have a PC as well as the majority of software is available only on that platform.

The PC vs Mac or who's right and wrong debate is irrelivant. There are many thing's I dislke and don't agree with but sometimes you just have to bite your tongue and go with the flow, if it benefits you to do so at least.
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CarloD.

14 years ago

Why is this untrue? What makes a PC better then a mac.

You missed the point, it comes down to preference,

As a PC user I can give you all sorts of reason why "I" think it's better.. but then you'll just have a MAC user saying why Mac is better... that gets no where... PC is going strong ... and in their marketing they don't have to RIP at MAC... Period,

The last 40 Mac commercials I've seen was the same old ... I'm a MAC and I'm a PC...

Statement is pointless.... Why IS it true?

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butters

14 years ago

Originally Posted by CarloD.

You missed the point, it comes down to preference,

As a PC user I can give you all sorts of reason why "I" think it's better.. but then you'll just have a MAC user saying why Mac is better... that gets no where... PC is going strong ... and in their marketing they don't have to RIP at MAC... Period,

The last 40 Mac commercials I've seen was the same old ... I'm a MAC and I'm a PC...

Statement is pointless.... Why IS it true?

I find there commercials good to be honest because its based on true facts but delivered in an amusing way.

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mojojuju

14 years ago

Originally Posted by butters

Also, are PC's really that much cheaper then a mac? A mac cost 2k out right and you will never have to update it, a pc costs 500 bucks but will require virus protections, hardware updates and even possibly a new PC after a few years.

Well, I don't run Windows OS, but when I did, I never had to purchase virus protection. Windows users have plenty of anti-virus options that won't cost a penny. Here's a couple:

http://www.microsoft.com/Security_Essentials/
http://www.avast.com/

As far as hardware updates, well sure, if down the road you need some hardware that didn't come with your computer, then you'll need to add some hardware. That's the way it goes if you're running OSX, Windows, or BeOS.

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Lee Wilson

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

Why encourage companies to not make Mac versions by buying a PC? Does no one remember the axiom that the customer is always right? Better for customers to support those who support their platform of choice.

There are plenty of software developers, including small developers, who make Mac and PC versions of their software. So, when a company chooses not to make a Mac version, clearly they don't want any extra business from Mac users. Why should Mac users buy a PC to buy their software and support them?

I'm torn on this one, I'm having trouble answering without admitting I'm a hypocrite!

This is no doubt cutting your nose off to spite your face but I'm an expert at sticking to my principles when it suits me!

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Spencer Westwood

14 years ago

If you really want to try and find out what it is that polarizes mac users then borrow one for a few days. Once you see how integrated and simple everything is ...

They don't break when software breaks. They don't slow down unless you run soo many applications that would have a PC hourglass going for hours.. the machines themselves are asthetically beautiful. You can run Windows in a window using VirtualBox/Parallels or VMWare Fusion if you need to run 'that' specific app. (Or even Boot into windows on intel macs..). They sleep nicely and don't need regular reboots.

Pound for pound you get more performance from a PC. But you also get the viri, spyware, incompatabilities, windows update muck ups and the OS slows down after about a month without some radical tweaking under the hood..

Choice really boils down to

a) How many applications do you use that are windows only
b) How much the real cost of lost time and extra software you need for a PC is (It's a lot more than you think).
c) Do you need a specific piece of hardware (like a high end GPU rendering graphics card for animation work?)

Kind regards, Spencer

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DejanM

14 years ago

From my experience, MacOS X is way superior in terms of usability, productivity, reliability and general user-friendliness. Used PC since I was 12 or 13 but after buying Mac I didn't miss it for a second.

Hope this didn't sound too fanboish.

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ozduc 14 years ago

Personally I think anyone that is building websites for an online business should not be without a Mac and a OC. It just makes good business sense to be able to check all your work on both operating systems to make sure it shows well.
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petelta

14 years ago

Im in a computer crunch right now and can't decide between mac or PC. I have always used PCs and built them from scratch many times. I've clicked a mac maybe 10 times lol. Because I really enjoy doing graphic design and video design, Im about to buy a mac laptop, but I will be also getting a new PC desktop to run all my IM software and business materials.

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