What Will Take The Place of Traffic Geyser

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I'm curious about how other fans of Traffic Geyser are dealing with the fact that the company is no longer offering their video submission service for a monthly fee?

There must be others like myself who would be delighted to pay $47 or $97 a month for the service, and are frustrated that the company now is only offering a $2495 (or is it $2497?), "business in a box", and nothing else.

I know that tube mogul is a popular free alternative, but it only does a fraction of what TG does, so is it really a great alternative?

Any suggestions on other software alternatives would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance, Greg
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    Web2Mayhem and SENuke have been a better option that TG for quite some time now...

    Why pay that much JUST for Videos? I prefer a "total package" for the same price.
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    • Profile picture of the author SageSound
      Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

      Web2Mayhem and SENuke have been a better option that TG for quite some time now...

      Why pay that much JUST for Videos? I prefer a "total package" for the same price.
      TrafficGeyser supports fully automated and scheduled posts of videos, audios/podcasts, text (blog posts to virtually any blog), and bookmarks.

      They also let you create video squeeze pages and a wide variety of other things through an easy-to-use step-by-step online interface that would take you 3-5 times longer to do manually.

      For instance, you can schedule a campaign to drip one set of video/audio/text/bookmark content over a month's time that generates 2000+ backlinks, in about 30 minutes -- the first time. Save the schedule as a template, and it takes mere minutes.

      Considering what you can legitimately charge people for such a service, the only question is, what's YOUR time worth?

      Everybody seems to think the answer to dealing with long, laborious and repetative tasks is to outsource them. In reality, it rarely happens.

      TrafficGeyser appeals to people for the same reasons that IBM's support services appeal to them. Those who think they're "too expensive" really aren't the kinds of customers they're looking for.

      There's no reason you cannot find 5-10 customers paying you $1000-$5000 a month for doing what TG lets you do. Once you set up their accounts and schedule templates, repeating it each month takes just a few minutes. (Aside from the videos themselves.)
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      • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
        Originally Posted by SageSound View Post

        TrafficGeyser supports fully automated and scheduled posts of videos, audios/podcasts, text (blog posts to virtually any blog), and bookmarks.

        They also let you create video squeeze pages and a wide variety of other things through an easy-to-use step-by-step online interface that would take you 3-5 times longer to do manually.

        For instance, you can schedule a campaign to drip one set of video/audio/text/bookmark content over a month's time that generates 2000+ backlinks, in about 30 minutes -- the first time. Save the schedule as a template, and it takes mere minutes.

        Considering what you can legitimately charge people for such a service, the only question is, what's YOUR time worth?

        Everybody seems to think the answer to dealing with long, laborious and repetative tasks is to outsource them. In reality, it rarely happens.

        TrafficGeyser appeals to people for the same reasons that IBM's support services appeal to them. Those who think they're "too expensive" really aren't the kinds of customers they're looking for.

        There's no reason you cannot find 5-10 customers paying you $1000-$5000 a month for doing what TG lets you do. Once you set up their accounts and schedule templates, repeating it each month takes just a few minutes. (Aside from the videos themselves.)
        SageSound, do you work for Traffic Geyser? I appreciate your input, but it sounds a bit like a sales pitch. You make some good points, which are actually the reasons I was interested in TG, but just because you can theoretically charge high fees for what you can do with a piece of software doesn't mean the software itself is worth a huge price tag. By that logic, since you can use email and ebooks to make a ton of money, Aweber should charge $2.5K for an entry level autoresponder service too, and PDF software should cost thousands, to say nothing of the email clients. It's still the marketer making the commerce happen, and now that TG has priced themselves out of reach, it's only a matter of time before someone comes up with a software solution that does as well or better. Supply and demand, baby! Jacking up the price sky high can backfire!

        Furthermore, imo the video with the Marine doesn't really present a sustainable business model, since he's charging the businesses more for his service than they're likely to make off some ultra-low traffic keywords. It looks impressive to "dominate Google's 1st page", but if you're dominating a page for a keyword that only has 5 searches a month, you're likely to see a big fat zero in terms of actual sales. If the customers start seeing a negative ROI, they aren't going to keep paying the bloated monthly fee, and his business will suffer.

        If you do work for TG, I'd appreciate it if you told your boss/es that I really wasn't too thrilled when I clicked on the "Free 30 day trial" button, and was taken to a sales page for the (aprox) "$2.5K business in a box", and no free trail anywhere to be seen, nor any monthly fee option. When I opened a support ticket asking "where is the free trial you promised me?", I got a reply saying you were "working on the sales page"-totally lame excuse for a bait and switch. I was further told to come back in about a week to see the exciting new offer that would be there. I waited more than a week, and the offer was the same.

        TG does look super-cool, but $2500 just to get started? No thanks.
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        • Profile picture of the author SageSound
          Originally Posted by Greg guitar View Post

          SageSound, do you work for Traffic Geyser?
          nope. I'm just familiar with their services.

          Originally Posted by Greg guitar View Post

          and now that TG has priced themselves out of reach
          of whom?

          Macdonalds is charging more for a franchise today than ever in their history. That does not seem to have hurt their ability to sell new franchise stores. But I'm sure if you were in the market for a food franchise, you'd probably say the same thing of Macdonald's.

          It all boils down to how you're looking at the situation. You're simply looking at COSTS rather than VALUE.

          Have you checked the price of a full-page ad in the Yellow Pages in your town? Those prices make Traffic Geyser look like a screaming deal! And I can GUARANTEE you that just one campaign a month posted to TG will generate MORE LEADS than a Yellow Pages ad!

          Why? Because 85% of consumers begin their searches for new products and services online today! I've seen estimates that fewer than 5% look at Yellow Pages today.

          If you're comparing TG against a handful of standalone apps and other more-or-less free online services, then yes, it's going to look "expensive". They have a lot of overhead in terms of back-end servers and support that you don't have with standalone apps. But that's not the proper comparison to be making -- you're comparing costs, not benefits.

          If you compare TG against other forms of lead generation options, like Yellow Pages, radio, TV, and display ads in newspapers and magazines, it's UNBELIEVABLY *CHEAP*.

          TG *SEEMS* to be "too expensive" for you because you aren't looking at the overall VALUE it offers vs. comparable options.

          Yes, MANY consultants are helping their clients earn thousands of dollars a month in CUSTOMER REVENUES by using videos to promote their business online. Not just with TG, but with other services as well. TG doesn't have a corner on the market.

          For example, I know a real estate guy who says he's been posting one short video to YouTube every week for a year, and that he believes it's getting him one new home sale a month now. That EASILY offsets what TG costs in terms of value, but he's happy with the results he's getting with one video a week. Anybody can do it that way. But nobody does.

          Whether you choose to believe TG's promotional materials or not is up to you.

          The FACT is ... the average brick-and-mortar business owner is spending THOUSANDS of dollars EVERY MONTH on media advertising, like radio, TV, newspaper, Yellow Pages, billboards, and they cannot even tell you what the Return on Investment (ROI) is! Why? Because they can't track it!

          Services like what TG offers provide as much traceability as you can possibly want. At any given moment, you KNOW how well your campaigns are working. You can't get that through many standalone programs or free services without some additional effort. Do you know how to do it?

          TG would not still be in business if their customers weren't getting VALUE out of their services. Normally, that means people are earning more than it's costing them.

          So to say they've "priced themselves out of reach" is silly on its face.

          Again, IBM earns most of their revenues today by selling support services for FREE SOFTWARE! You'd probably choke if you found out what their entry-level support costs are for one server running (free) Red Hat Linux. Yet their customers find it to be a FAIR VALUE in terms of what it might cost them otherwise.

          Like I said, i don't work for TG. I work for myself, selling lead generation and SEO services to brick-and-mortar businesses who are dying from the cost of traditional media ads that aren't generating squat in terms of new business. TG delivers where Yellow Pages does NOT. It's a MUCH MORE COST-EFFECTIVE SOLUTION, even after I've added in my markup.

          -David
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          • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
            Originally Posted by SageSound View Post

            nope. I'm just familiar with their services.


            of whom?

            Macdonalds is charging more for a franchise today than ever in their history. That does not seem to have hurt their ability to sell new franchise stores. But I'm sure if you were in the market for a food franchise, you'd probably say the same thing of Macdonald's.

            It all boils down to how you're looking at the situation. You're simply looking at COSTS rather than VALUE.

            Have you checked the price of a full-page ad in the Yellow Pages in your town? Those prices make Traffic Geyser look like a screaming deal! And I can GUARANTEE you that just one campaign a month posted to TG will generate MORE LEADS than a Yellow Pages ad!

            Why? Because 85% of consumers begin their searches for new products and services online today! I've seen estimates that fewer than 5% look at Yellow Pages today.

            If you're comparing TG against a handful of standalone apps and other more-or-less free online services, then yes, it's going to look "expensive". They have a lot of overhead in terms of back-end servers and support that you don't have with standalone apps. But that's not the proper comparison to be making -- you're comparing costs, not benefits.

            If you compare TG against other forms of lead generation options, like Yellow Pages, radio, TV, and display ads in newspapers and magazines, it's UNBELIEVABLY *CHEAP*.

            TG *SEEMS* to be "too expensive" for you because you aren't looking at the overall VALUE it offers vs. comparable options.

            Yes, MANY consultants are helping their clients earn thousands of dollars a month in CUSTOMER REVENUES by using videos to promote their business online. Not just with TG, but with other services as well. TG doesn't have a corner on the market.

            For example, I know a real estate guy who says he's been posting one short video to YouTube every week for a year, and that he believes it's getting him one new home sale a month now. That EASILY offsets what TG costs in terms of value, but he's happy with the results he's getting with one video a week. Anybody can do it that way. But nobody does.

            Whether you choose to believe TG's promotional materials or not is up to you.

            The FACT is ... the average brick-and-mortar business owner is spending THOUSANDS of dollars EVERY MONTH on media advertising, like radio, TV, newspaper, Yellow Pages, billboards, and they cannot even tell you what the Return on Investment (ROI) is! Why? Because they can't track it!

            Services like what TG offers provide as much traceability as you can possibly want. At any given moment, you KNOW how well your campaigns are working. You can't get that through many standalone programs or free services without some additional effort. Do you know how to do it?

            TG would not still be in business if their customers weren't getting VALUE out of their services. Normally, that means people are earning more than it's costing them.

            So to say they've "priced themselves out of reach" is silly on its face.

            Again, IBM earns most of their revenues today by selling support services for FREE SOFTWARE! You'd probably choke if you found out what their entry-level support costs are for one server running (free) Red Hat Linux. Yet their customers find it to be a FAIR VALUE in terms of what it might cost them otherwise.

            Like I said, i don't work for TG. I work for myself, selling lead generation and SEO services to brick-and-mortar businesses who are dying from the cost of traditional media ads that aren't generating squat in terms of new business. TG delivers where Yellow Pages does NOT. It's a MUCH MORE COST-EFFECTIVE SOLUTION, even after I've added in my markup.

            -David
            Thanks David; your time in writing this is really appreciated. Sorry if I came off a bit combative. I realize that the potential is there to really make money with this thing, but for someone that hasn't experienced it before, $2.5K is a pretty steep entry point, and I was venting frustration since I got all excited about the possibilities, and then the free trial/$47/$97 options seemed to disappear.

            But, I'm now back to being excited, since I finally managed to sign up, and all the options appear to be available, although I was irritated that the offer changed between the top and bottom of the sign-up form.

            I have gone through a couple hours of the how-to videos so far. I must say that I'm impressed by not only the capabilities that I'm learning about, but also how clearly presented the lessons are. I'm really excited about creating my first video, which is my goal for tommorrow (or rather, later today.

            These are some of the best, most professional IM teaching videos I've seen anywhere, even though they are a bit basic and repetitive at times. I realize they are marketing to newbies, and the videos are exactly what a newbie needs, but I think they are also good for anyone wanting a thorough understanding of the purposes and capabilities of TG. It just requires a bit of patience.

            I'll let you all know how it goes, and thanks everyone for your helpful comments.
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      • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
        Originally Posted by SageSound View Post

        Considering what you can legitimately charge people for such a service, the only question is, what's YOUR time worth?

        There's no reason you cannot find 5-10 customers paying you $1000-$5000 a month for doing what TG lets you do. Once you set up their accounts and schedule templates, repeating it each month takes just a few minutes. (Aside from the videos themselves.)
        The issue with that is you're equating 'possible' earnings with product value.

        They're not the same thing.

        Selling me a screw driver and saying "you can charge a Ferrari owner $2k to change his headlamp with that screw driver" doesn't mean I'd pay $1k for a screw driver.

        I've been working with offline businesses marketing them online for about 8 years and I'd say that your $1k to $5k a month figure customers are seriously in the minority - especially as far as what the average internet marketer is likely to realistically come across.

        The same goes for comments about offline businesses already spending thousands of dollars a month on things they can't track and don't work.

        I rarely come across businesses these days that spend that much and don't know what they're getting for it.

        Yellow pages set up separate telephone numbers for their customers and provide statistics on how many calls were made and how many of those were not answered.

        Maybe a few years ago your comments were more accurate, but it's not my experience that this is the case now.

        Unless you target larger businesses, or businesses with a good turnover, the current economic climate also means that most small businesses are not spending anything like a few grand a month.

        More like a few hundred a month.

        Most business owners I meet are not stupid and do test their advertising.

        I don't think it's accurate to tell people that if they think TG is expensive that the problem is in their perception.

        The reason they say it's expensive is because for them - it IS.

        Yes, you can come up with hypothetical scenarios where it can make you money - but you could say the same thing about almost anything.

        Making money is not quick and easy for most people - regardless of the tools they have.

        It's easy to lay the blame on people for their 'limited mindset' or say that they just don't understand the difference between price and value - but it really doesn't matter what money you 'could' make - what matters is what you 'do' make and if you know you don't have any clients will to pay you thousands of dollars a month for SEM services - then you'd be crazy to buy a tool that makes it easy for $2.5k

        With that said - yes it is possible to find clients that will pay these amounts, but they're not usually clients that would be an easy land for anyone who is not an experienced consultant.

        I know people love to quote the outrageous successes as examples - but there's a reason they stand out - because it's uncommon.
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  • Profile picture of the author ademartin
    Originally Posted by Greg guitar View Post


    I know that tube mogul is a popular free alternative, but it only does a fraction of what TG does, so is it really a great alternative?

    Thanks in advance, Greg
    Just for information, Tube Mogul banned me for uploading what they considered a "promotional" video.

    I am sure that I am the only person online to have ever uploaded such wicked content to promote a product or service so I deserve all I get ;-)

    No complaints, it's their site and they can run it as they see fit but this is just a heads up that they may ban you.

    Peace and Good Fortune
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    • Profile picture of the author NewbiesDiary
      Originally Posted by ademartin View Post

      Just for information, Tube Mogul banned me for uploading what they considered a "promotional" video.

      I am sure that I am the only person online to have ever uploaded such wicked content to promote a product or service so I deserve all I get ;-)

      No complaints, it's their site and they can run it as they see fit but this is just a heads up that they may ban you.

      Peace and Good Fortune
      That happened to my account with them too - and all the vids I had submitted were deleted. The vids were for a building client and each one was on a different subject - carports, patios etc etc - vastly different.
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  • Profile picture of the author Keith Gilbert
    Sorry for the self promotion, but...

    Try out my "Video Submit Wizard" software. It submits to about the same number of sites but uses your own computer to distribute your videos.
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
      Originally Posted by Keith Gilbert View Post

      Sorry for the self promotion, but...

      Try out my "Video Submit Wizard" software. It submits to about the same number of sites but uses your own computer to distribute your videos.
      I appreciate the input, and might consider it, however if TG does all that the owner says, to do that on my own computer would possibly mean I'd pretty much have to dedicate the computer to nothing but that for many hours a day. That could present a problem, but on the other hand, it might be worth investing in another laptop and a seperate cable connection, if it would save $97 a month.

      Most likely though, I'll end up with TG until Mike comes out with his, and then do a comparison.
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

      Not today, and probably not tomorrow, but in the reasonably near future, look to Incansoft, for a robust, fully integrated solution that none of the others will ever come close to.

      Yeah, I'm tooting my own horn, but we've spent years in research, development and so on to pull these bots together into a comprehensive package that continues to evolve and will do so for years into the future.

      And it won't cost you a monthly fee...
      I have to re-up with you Mike-I still haven't got around to updating my information after my bank dumped you because of changes to my account that should not have caused you to get dropped from my scheduled payments, but did.

      I can't wait to see your new offering-sounds like it will be great! I did manage to get my trial started at TG, but I see that they have an option to buy more of a couple different types of credits, leading me to think you might have to spend even more than the $97 monthly fee to make unlimited use of the tools they offer-still might be worth it, but if your software can do even better for no monthly fee, not only will I jump on it for my own use, but I could see doing some serious promoting as well!

      Thanks again!
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      • Profile picture of the author MarikaZoll
        [QUOTE=Greg guitar;1667296

        I can't wait to see your new offering-sounds like it will be great! I did manage to get my trial started at TG, but I see that they have an option to buy more of a couple different types of credits, leading me to think you might have to spend even more than the $97 monthly fee to make unlimited use of the tools they offer-still might be worth it, but if your software can do even better for no monthly fee, not only will I jump on it for my own use, but I could see doing some serious promoting as well!

        Thanks again![/QUOTE]

        Well ALL, here is my little, ROTTEN experience: BUYERS BEWARE!

        AS I write I am on hold with TG for more than 30 minutes still to get a REAL person to assure me that the $3498.00 that they charged me (took out of my bank account in 5 minutes draining it to 20 bucks) after I purchased the $1.00 21day trial, which I was thrilled to find since for about 2 months now we have been stonewalled by the above mentioned "bate and switch" to buy their FIRE POWER BUSINESS IN A BOX!

        Yesterday I was thrilled to find a link that allowed me to "get in" for a 21 day trial and then 97 after that. As I was checking out I was asked to buy a 47 dollar "pre configured profile". I didn't know what this was so I stopped in my tracks trying to find the answer elsewhere since I could not get into TG site to read more. As I left the opened page, still unfinished business, I was already sent a receipt and welcome letters for my 21 day trial and then also a receipt for my purchase of 1.00 and added to that $3497.00 for business in a box!!!!! YES, you read it right, they charged me for the other thing they are selling without me even being on that page.

        Well, if it was just a linking error, then you might think I would be charged for only the 3497, but the 1 dollar charge was there as well. I went to my bank and already the money was taken. That quick!! I sent emails to various addresses, 2 to be exact, and got in about an hour an email from "gina" that did not even apologize for anything, not even a dear ms. Zoll, but an abrupt "where did you find that page. We are NOT SELLING THAT RIGHT NOW!. Please give me the url so we can see who did this. "

        by the time I was reading that the link to that page was already down with a "broken link" message. I have a screen shot so I was not dreaming. She further said that she was refunding ALL my money, including the $1.00 which I did not want back, and that they would be in touch in the next couple weeks with their new promotions.

        It has now been over 20 hours ago that I wrote them. I called them before 6:00 last night and it is now the next day and no one has called me back. I am still on hold for 40 minutes now. I do not really know what to do other than wait for the charge to disappear off my bank account. I have the email saying that I will get a refund. Their sales page for that item says 100% money back guarantee, but .......................

        I had a near panic attack when all my money disappeared and is still gone.

        what to do? I really think i will look at alternatives. If anyone knows this company personally, put in a word for me to get my money back and some sort of apology. This is just WRONG!

        Bye. Hope to save someone else this horrible experience. Please contact if you have any words of wisdom regarding this company and if I should be worried about getting my money back.

        Marika
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        • Profile picture of the author Phil McCracken
          Marika. Do you have a follow up on if Traffic Geyser resolved this issue; and how are your results?
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    • Profile picture of the author damongreene
      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

      Not today, and probably not tomorrow, but in the reasonably near future, look to Incansoft, for a robust, fully integrated solution that none of the others will ever come close to.

      Yeah, I'm tooting my own horn, but we've spent years in research, development and so on to pull these bots together into a comprehensive package that continues to evolve and will do so for years into the future.

      And it won't cost you a monthly fee...
      WOW I cant wait. I can vouch for ALL the bots I use
      RSS BOT
      Social Bot
      Directory Bot
      Article Bot
      PAD BOT
      Blog Bot <<== This ones auto account creation has been failing. Not sure what that is about. But Im sure once I figure that out it will work fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Kohler
    I have to say that Keith's Video Web Wizard is an awesome video product. I have also used his submitter in the past. If you do not understand how to convert videos or are brand new at video marketing, his stuff really helps. A great alternative to TG.
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  • Profile picture of the author VegasGreg
    Originally Posted by Greg guitar View Post

    I'm curious about how other fans of Traffic Geyser are dealing with the fact that the company is no longer offering their video submission service for a monthly fee?

    There must be others like myself who would be delighted to pay $47 or $97 a month for the service, and are frustrated that the company now is only offering a $2495 (or is it $2497?), "business in a box", and nothing else.

    I know that tube mogul is a popular free alternative, but it only does a fraction of what TG does, so is it really a great alternative?

    Any suggestions on other software alternatives would be appreciated.

    Thanks in advance, Greg
    Well, if you go to their site, it is still a monthly fee 47/97, so not sure where your information is coming from unless they are canceling orders after you sign up.

    Someone asked this same question months ago. Wondering if it is a sneaky way of advertising their service?:rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
      Originally Posted by VegasGreg View Post

      Well, if you go to their site, it is still a monthly fee 47/97, so not sure where your information is coming from unless they are canceling orders after you sign up.

      Someone asked this same question months ago. Wondering if it is a sneaky way of advertising their service?:rolleyes:
      Thanks Greg, and I assure you I am not a shill I'm actually pissed that it's so hard to figure out what TG is offering. They actually told me on their blog that the only offering they had right now was the business in a box for 2.5K, but I am following your suggestion, and in the middle of signing up for a free trial right now.

      The thing is, I'm once again confused about the offer. first I followed a sponsored link at the top of the "Traffic Geyser" search results advertising a free 30 day trial. I briefly saw a salespage for that (for about 1 second), before being redirected to the video about the homeless marine that made good, that I know leads to the business in a box salespage.

      So I tried another affiliate link, and this time, got to the free trial sales page/order form and was almost done filling it out when I noticed this contradiction. At the top of the order form (I'm copying and pasting here), it says: "Gold Plus $97 Monthly Membership with 30 day Free Trial". At the end of it, it says this (again pasting their words): "By Clicking "Finalize Order" you agree to be enrolled in the 21 day trial for $1.00, and after the trial expires, you agree that your card will be charged $97 per month until you cancel."

      I'll probably go ahead with it, (after all, it gives me a chance to try it, and is only off by a week and a dollar), but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth to be offered one thing and then have the offer changed to a lessor offer. I understand charging a buck, since they want to establish that there's a real account they can charge, but you aren't supposed to call that free, nor is "21 days" a legal synonym for "30 days".

      In spite of all that, I am excited about finally seeing what all the fuss is about, so wish me luck (with the unpredictable nature of this company, who knows what will happen once I hit submit-maybe I'll be offered a burger joint franchise.

      Anyway, thanks for getting me to try again-I'll let you know if anything comes of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author GingerColeen
    Like many others, I was sent the email response to look for their new offer in a week. That was about 5 weeks ago.

    I have to wonder what would cause a business that has a massive following, awesome reputation AND thousands of affiliates promoting their monthly fee model to commit business suicide?

    I can certainly understand taking that huge mailing list they must have developed and promoting a new offer to those who want it. But, I think many of you will agree that it doesn't make a lot of sense to cut off a thriving business with a huge reputation and replace it with something totally different that most people hitting their site, aren't looking for.

    Adding Traffic Geyser was part of my marketing plan. The day I could finally add it I was excited. Then I clicked over to their site, only to find a $2,000+ offer and no sign of the offer I had been sold on months ago.

    I tried to find affiliate links that would lead me back to the original offer, but, of course, that didn't work. In fact, it's my understanding from an affiliate that they weren't even notified.

    I hope someday they tell the story of why it was done this way. Because it sure doesn't make much sense now. And, as Marika found out, when you take an existing online site and try to convert it to something else, it's easy to miss up the linking and screw up the billing. What an unfortunate thing to have to endure from what appears on the surface to be a very poor management decision.

    I certainly hope there is a good reason as many people who value their reputations, including John Assaraf, have helped to promote Traffic Geyser over the last year to their clients. Has all that marketing just been thrown out the window? It appears that way.

    At the very least, they owe Marika a big apology. And, a monthly subscription with a month or two free, might go a long way to win back at least part of their floundering reputation.

    Personally, I don't know what will take the place of Traffic Geyser but I do know that where there is opportunity online, there are always entrepreneurs and programmers quickly feeding the frenzied crowd! It shouldn't take too long to fill the void.
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  • Originally Posted by Greg guitar View Post

    I'm curious about how other fans of Traffic Geyser are dealing with the fact that the company is no longer offering their video submission service for a monthly fee?

    There must be others like myself who would be delighted to pay $47 or $97 a month for the service, and are frustrated that the company now is only offering a $2495 (or is it $2497?), "business in a box", and nothing else.

    I know that tube mogul is a popular free alternative, but it only does a fraction of what TG does, so is it really a great alternative?

    Any suggestions on other software alternatives would be appreciated.

    Thanks in advance, Greg
    Willie Crawford has a service that submits to top 30 or so video sites
    as well as the top article directories, podcast directories and press
    release sites from one control panel.

    It's called Easy Pushbutton Traffic and sells for $27 a month. They have a
    7 day trial for $1.00 and you can get to the site by adding the "http://"
    and the "dot com" to easypushbuttontraffic.

    It should be obvious this is not an affiliate link, but just in case - this is not
    an affiliate link! I'm just trying to help a brother out.

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    • Profile picture of the author Keithyt
      I am on TG right now (I must have got in before the business in a box deal) and interested to see comments of the alternative product. I know this is not a review thread as such but just for the record, I find the interface easy to follow and would strongly recommend the preset profiles for automated submissions. Comprehensive training videos by Mike Koenigs also make sense and arranged logically. My feeling is that they will relaunch TG as it seems strange to take off what is quite a mature and well thought through product with mid range pricing. As a video producer, I am always intersted in alternatives though and thank you for he heads up on these other products.
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    • Profile picture of the author Love2KnowU
      Originally Posted by Michael Worthington View Post

      Willie Crawford has a service that submits to top 30 or so video sites as well as the top article directories, podcast directories and press release sites from one control panel.

      It's called Easy Pushbutton Traffic and sells for $27 a month. They have a
      7 day trial for $1.00 and you can get to the site by adding the "http://"
      and the "dot com" to easypushbuttontraffic.

      It should be obvious this is not an affiliate link, but just in case - this is not
      an affiliate link! I'm just trying to help a brother out. Michael
      Now that's funny!

      P.S-Anybody here used this service?
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  • Profile picture of the author tyroneshum
    I recently have been comparing TubeMogul and TrafficGeyser since I'm planning to use a better and much flexible tool to increase my SEO efforts in building more websites. But it's true even if thinking these tools can also be "overpriced" for their quality, they would deserve this kind of pay-back to us customers.

    And see where did I end up? After couple of thinking and evaluation, I bought TrafficGeyser to the sense that I'm already familiar with basic SEO, social bookmarking, article marketing, affiliate marketing, and so forth and thus it's a one-in-a-million tool for us to expand these knowledge and yield better results.

    I realize that the potential is there to really make money with this thing, but for someone that hasn't experienced it before, $2.5K is a pretty steep entry point, and I was venting frustration since I got all excited about the possibilities...
    Alternatively, I do understand your reasons here Greg about paying such amount without having "enough" experience in exploring its every SEO feature, you're better off to try some at least affordable ones. But in the end, the more you get to pay higher, the more you assure you'll get results in no time - as with TG, it's already proven indeed so there's nothing to get worried of.

    Cheers for this thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author EndGame
    Reading some of the replies, I am a little confused, is it still possible to get on traffic geyser on a trial basis or on a monthly recurring payment plan?
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      And I can GUARANTEE you that just one campaign a month posted to TG will generate MORE LEADS than a Yellow Pages ad!

      Why? Because 85% of consumers begin their searches for new products and services online today! I've seen estimates that fewer than 5% look at Yellow Pages today.
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  • Profile picture of the author kyhell
    I was just pondering this question yesterday and was thinking about having my own solution coded for me that way i dont have to depend on someone else or be left looking for a back up when the service ends or changes. seems like a sound idea considering what the cost would be to have it developed is pretty close to what i would spend on a year or two of using another similar service
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    I am a newbie. Any resolve to this?
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  • Profile picture of the author Malcolm Chua
    If you are looking for Paid video auto submission, perhaps you can check this out heyspread. It hv the YouClone feature that can copy youtube video to other video site. Hope that helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ty Neal
    Traffic Geyser is not taking any new members now, I still have the software but SEnuke is powerful as well, I been using traffic geyser for a while it sweet but if they are not taking any new members. I will go with senuke hope that help
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  • Profile picture of the author wiseleo
    "We are not accepting any new Traffic Geyser customers at the moment while we ready our exciting new version of the service, which will be available soon" - as of now if you sign up to their list.
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  • Profile picture of the author G Allan Roberts
    The monthly service is coming back... it was down during the main Street Marketing promotion. Mike made a video explaining why... during the launch of MSMM.

    It will be back soon... Traffic geyser will still provide video sharing service for a monthly fee. It will also offer an upgraded service a la cart.
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    - Article marketing Plateform
    - Blog creation.
    - Much more...
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    • Profile picture of the author sdentrepreneur
      Originally Posted by G Allan Roberts View Post

      The monthly service is coming back... it was down during the main Street Marketing promotion. Mike made a video explaining why... during the launch of MSMM.

      It will be back soon... Traffic geyser will still provide video sharing service for a monthly fee. It will also offer an upgraded service a la cart.
      - Mobile marketing platform.
      - Article marketing Plateform
      - Blog creation.
      - Much more...
      What a long thread for something that is actually not going away :-)
      I still pay my $97 a month and love the service. Cheers !!!! 10X10X4 Rocks !!!!!
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      • Profile picture of the author Adam Nolan
        I run a business with TG that pulls in 5 figures a month... and ever since Main Street Marketing was released they've refused to respond to Customer Support questions.

        Like up until 4 days ago i could create as many "login profiles" (a set of username and passwords for sites like youtube) as I wanted. I use 12 / client and it doesn't cost them ANYTHING as it's a file structure / organizational system.

        Now they reduced my account to "5" profiles, are charging me the same ammount, are not grandfathering me and are forcing me to spend $100 each time I want to buy 10 more login profiles.

        On top of that i have a launch for 2 clients in 2 days that are both paying me over $5000 and TG is NOT responding despite 4 URGENT support tickets, a message broadcast to 4000+ twitter users in the same niche and several personal emails.

        I am NOT happy... but I'm backed into a corner and I'm being forced to spend an extra $200 by tuesday.

        I'm thinking of hiring a developer to create online distribution software so that I don't have to rely on TG anymore.

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  • Profile picture of the author US Blues
    I am glad I found this thread as I was about to join TG (apparently I can't at this time) but if they are not offering good customer service I hope there is a reasonable alternative.
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  • Profile picture of the author JayPeete
    It's kind of sad that they decided to price most people out of the market with a three thousand dollar product.

    If you really want to help people like you say, then you need an introductory product.
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    • Profile picture of the author Adam Nolan
      So after 4 days and NUMEROUS emails they finally responded that it is in their "terms of service" that they can change (read: decrease) your service whenever they like, without warning and you'll continue to be billed... not cool.

      You'd think they'd have the courtesy to grandfather the plans.

      I asked if they could give me 10 free profiles just out of courtesy because of the frustration I had to go through to get a hold of someone... they said No.

      I just dropped another $100 that should have been free. Sigh...
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      • Profile picture of the author Adam Nolan
        And for those that are interested... Tube moguls business account is $500 a month and their premium account is $1500 a month. I looked into it. Their tracking system is 10x better, but you get WAY less video submissions per month, and it costs 50c extra each submission.
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      • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
        Originally Posted by Maverick_ View Post

        So after 4 days and NUMEROUS emails they finally responded that it is in their "terms of service" that they can change (read: decrease) your service whenever they like, without warning and you'll continue to be billed... not cool.

        You'd think they'd have the courtesy to grandfather the plans.

        I asked if they could give me 10 free profiles just out of courtesy because of the frustration I had to go through to get a hold of someone... they said No.

        I just dropped another $100 that should have been free. Sigh...
        I wonder how many customers they lost as a result of that action.

        I was just searching for more details on TG and read your post.

        I wouldn't want to take on a service who treat customers like that, I could
        end up hugely involved with their software and they just cut the legs from
        my business.

        Very short term business practice treating customers in that manner.
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  • Profile picture of the author JayPeete
    It sounds to me like another more reasonable company needs to step in. They both need some competition.

    They had better hope that Google doesn't decide to do something in that area.

    Google wants to take over the Internet you know, LOL!
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    • Profile picture of the author Adam Nolan
      Hi Jay... working on it ...

      *plug plug* shameless self promotion *plug plug* hehe
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        Originally Posted by Maverick_ View Post

        Hi Jay... working on it ...

        *plug plug* shameless self promotion *plug plug* hehe
        I'll be waiting!
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  • Profile picture of the author JBorhez
    I'm bummed about this Traffic Geyser BS. Just when I was starting to get into it!!
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  • Profile picture of the author revjoe
    I heard that it is just better to post videos manually its better for seo if you know what I mean:-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Adam Nolan
      Nah, it's the same... TG just automates the process. I've had exactly the same results doing it manually.
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  • Profile picture of the author MATTYLLL
    I've heard a few people talking about being dis-satisfied with TG's recent changes to their terms and conditions. It seems that they are so focused on going for world domination that they are forgetting about their existing client base.

    What was clearly a great business model has some work to do in terms of retaining clients. I have been toying for a long time about signing up, will I do it now? No chance!

    I've been using Incansoft's software for a while now, and it is ok, but just doesn't quite have the gloss that TG have clearly mastered, also the setting up of profiles is an extremely laborious process.
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    • Profile picture of the author Adam Nolan
      Matt....

      As far as setting up profiles. I hire a VA at $1.50 an hour to do it. It takes them about 3 hours... so I get one profile for $4.50.

      What does TG charge? $150.
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      • Profile picture of the author ringoli
        Originally Posted by Maverick_ View Post

        Matt....

        As far as setting up profiles. I hire a VA at $1.50 an hour to do it. It takes them about 3 hours... so I get one profile for $4.50.

        What does TG charge? $150.
        Hi,

        I just want someone to do it, any suggestion such that I can do it?

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  • Profile picture of the author leonardb
    Just received email that TG is open again... trafficgeyser dot com slash 21daysi (No aff-link)
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
    I used TG when they had the free trial.
    For whatever reasons, I seemed to have much more success just manually submitting my videos to the handfull of sites that have always ranked well for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author javistuff
    Just asking out of knowledge... (my bad!)

    ...but, isn't SENuke a god alternative option? As far as I know they have also video submission services, right? I mean, is it just the different prices or is that Traffic Geyser is really a better choice?

    I know it has been discussed here before, and I know it will has it's own pro's and con's believer, just wanting to see some statements as for today's states of services from both of them (or at least one side of them).

    So, it isn't?

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    • Profile picture of the author mcmahanusa
      Great thread! Thanks to all of you who offered alternatives. I'm just starting with video marketing, and wanted some good tools. At the same time, I don't want to throw away money I can ill afford to lose.

      It looks as though there are now and will be in the future much cheaper and better alternatives to TG. As of now, it's off my list entirely.
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  • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
    I see they had the sense to seperate MYM and TG again.

    Seems like you can get the service for $1 for 21 days then
    $97 a month.

    Did these guys improve their Customer service again or is it
    still awful , people still being overcharged etc?

    Can anybody tell me are there any hidden charges with TG,
    for example , are you able to create your own accounts that
    it distributes to or do they charge you to create them?

    Can you setup "clients" within TG yourself, so seperate campaigns
    with seperate stats , how does that actually work ?

    I see in the Kern/Koeings video they talk about TG bookmarking
    your sites for you , do they use their own accounts or do you
    setup a load of bookmarking sites etc?
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    • Profile picture of the author profitgenie
      I got the email to say traffic geyser is back again, but there are many other better sites now.

      Content buzz for one is a fantastic service that is only $67 dollars per month. It send you video to video sites, rss sites, creates web 2.0 properties and posts your videos, micro blogging platforms, then bookmarks your site at social bookmarking sites and to top it off gets plugged into the content buzz system and is automatically bookmarked by other members of the content buzz system.

      Excellent service.

      Jamie
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      • Profile picture of the author MacS09
        Originally Posted by profitgenie View Post

        I got the email to say traffic geyser is back again, but there are many other better sites now.

        Content buzz for one is a fantastic service that is only $67 dollars per month. It send you video to video sites, rss sites, creates web 2.0 properties and posts your videos, micro blogging platforms, then bookmarks your site at social bookmarking sites and to top it off gets plugged into the content buzz system and is automatically bookmarked by other members of the content buzz system.

        Excellent service.

        Jamie
        It seems the questions never end. I just looked at Content Buzz and found this:
        "We are replacing the Content Buzz Desktop Software with a very powerful and exciting Online Application.

        We've gone online for one reason, and one reason only, to serve you better.

        Online, we can not only submit your videos, images, bookmarks, micro-blogs etc. for you, but we can also help you get literally thousands of backlinks to them. You do need backlinks to your content, not just to your 'money' pages or blogs, to get Google to sit up and take notice.

        So, we've decided that in an online world you need online and cutting edge tools...

        For a short period, we are offering Content Buzz at a special launch price of $67 per month for new subscribers, a $30 per month discount on the eventual price.
        So, soon it will be $97 and instead of software it will be online. I guess it's the sign of a market (niche) in upheaval or adjusting to a new business model.

        People like Big Mike and Keith Gilbert, for instance, provide own hosting solutions at low prices now, and the established big guns are going for the high ticket section of the market and probably don't want to bother with the trouble caused by low ticket customers. Who can blame them?

        Meanwhile, we'll have to muddle through until the fallout settles.
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        • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
          Hmmm, I've never heard of Content Buzz before. I looked at the sales page and couldn't find more information about the company. Does anyone know who or what organization is behind it?

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          • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
            Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

            Hmmm, I've never heard of Content Buzz before. I looked at the sales page and couldn't find more information about the company. Does anyone know who or what organization is behind it?

            RoD
            Anyone? Going once......
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  • Profile picture of the author rickghouse
    Wow, I was seriously considering TG until I read this post. But after reading how they treat their customers and potential customers, not a chance.

    I love the Warrior Forum!
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  • SEnuke works better and does a whole lot more. I liked TG when i first found it but tbh it is was overpriced nyway, then again so is SEnuke lol
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by Greg guitar View Post

    I'm curious about how other fans of Traffic Geyser are dealing with the fact that the company is no longer offering their video submission service for a monthly fee?

    There must be others like myself who would be delighted to pay $47 or $97 a month for the service, and are frustrated that the company now is only offering a $2495 (or is it $2497?), "business in a box", and nothing else.

    I know that tube mogul is a popular free alternative, but it only does a fraction of what TG does, so is it really a great alternative?

    Any suggestions on other software alternatives would be appreciated.

    Thanks in advance, Greg
    Weird...

    OT response...

    What makes them think that if their "business in a box" did not work for them that is would work for you?

    And what enables "us" to trust that if their "business in a box" did not work for them that it would clearly work for us...

    Now I do realize that different people utilizing the same opportunity will frequently generate vastly different results... I am just saying... It has got to make you think...
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