Congratulations! You've Just Made a Sale.

14 years ago

Not had one of these yet!

Just out of interest Gene, what is actually within the body of the email relating to the subject line??

GoGetta

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Steven Wagenheim

14 years ago

Gene, these emails are as old as the Internet. The only ones of these that
I get are spam because all the lists I'm on are of marketers who know
better. The other ones...unsubscribed a LONG time ago.

In fact, I can count the number of lists I'm on, on one hand.

Paul Myers
Kevin Riley
Willie Crawford
Jason Moffatt
John Taylor

And that's it.

The amount of junk that is out there is mind boggling.

And it's a sad commentary on this business.

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KarlWarren

14 years ago

Ha ha...

should have replied with "do you know who I am"?
And a real earnings screenshot.

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Gene Pimentel

14 years ago

Originally Posted by GoGetta

Not had one of these yet!

Just out of interest Gene, what is actually within the body of the email relating to the subject line??

GoGetta

No valuable content -- just a promo for a run-of-the-mill, cheap ClickBank item.

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Matt Bard

14 years ago

Gene, yes I have had a few over the last month.

I'm going to steal your reply

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phil.wheatley

14 years ago

Hi Gene

"I screwed up" is the one I'm really sick of!

Phil

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Steven Wagenheim

14 years ago

Gene thanks. This just inspired an article that I've wanted to write for a long
time. I doubt EZA will accept it but hell, if not, I'll just put it on my blog.

"Say No To Stupid Marketers!"

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14 years ago

My pleasure Steven! I'd love to read that!

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Gene thanks. This just inspired an article that I've wanted to write for a long
time. I doubt EZA will accept it but hell, if not, I'll just put it on my blog.

"Say No To Stupid Marketers!"

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robnoble 14 years ago

Dammit!

Wished I'd thought of that!

I've just done a clearout of that one plus...

Re: Reply Immediately
Rob, THANK YOU!
IMPORTANT (please read)
URGENT: Read NOW Rob - and read it FAST!
I changed my mind...
... Faster rob!

etc etc!

I'll subscribe to anyones list to see what they're doing but these short - supposedly intriguing or forceful :p - subject lines leave me cold.

Do they really work?

This guy is the best I think...

two PDFs from Vegas baby (for Rob)

Howie Schwartz almost always gives something in return for you bothering to check out his email.
Normally this leads to a PDF download page with a couple of affiliate or product links casually arranged above and below the PDF download link.

Works on me! I've bought a few things through him.

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  Gene, how can you possibly call this marketing genius a 'wannabe'? :confused:
  
  Look at the masterful use of exclamation points!
  
  The prompt reply!
  
  Genius I say!!
  
  Besides, he even spelled 'moron' correctly, although I'm guessing he's probably heard the word a time or three... :rolleyes:
  
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R Hagel

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Gene Pimentel

He replied back within minutes:

I'm happy to have you leave!!

Stay away from marketing!!

Moron!!!

Nice. Very classy. He should have taken a deep breath first and set your email aside before answering.

Cheers,
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Katie Rich

14 years ago

One a day for the last few months.

At first I opened them all but now I just delete them. I may steal your reply too
if you don't mind

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Kay King 14 years ago

Where DO these brilliant wanna-be marketers come from?

Gene - you nailed it! "Wannabe" is the keyword.
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14 years ago

Actually Gene, I'm really surprised he replied like that, surely he knows if you registered a complaint with aweber or whoever, he could get banned?

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AndyBlackSEO

14 years ago

I agree. It's a poor effort to get you to open their email. I would be very surprised if they DIDN'T lose lots of their subscribers by using that tactic. The subject line should generate interest, then your body text should follow on with relevant copy to his subject.

I've had a few that stated, 'I am quitting internet marketing!'... when they are clearly not. Getting one like that was ok, but then about 5 followed suit. What other tactics will these IM's think of next.... 'Open this or you'll DIE!'.... It wouldn't surprise me.

In fact, that would probably be a good concept as many people are supersticious. 'If you don't send this email to at least 10 of your contacts you'll get bad luck for a year!'. Think how many people you coul hit with your offer using that tactic.. lol.

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Katie Rich

14 years ago

Is it just me, or does the word 'shocking' in an email subject line also cause anyone to delete the message?

I have had so many of those that nothing is shocking me any more ;P

The 'Shocking' new secret to....
Read this 'shocking' report...

I don't, I just unsubscribe and delete. Anyone else fed up with this word too?

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Steven Wagenheim 14 years ago

I don't know. Maybe I've just become boring but my subject lines are all
pretty straight forward and to the point and STILL get people to open the
emails.

Personally, I think people just want to be told what's inside of the email so
they can decide whether or not they want to open it. I don't use fancy
subjects. Rarely will I ever even use a subject that one would call different.

Those of you on my lists know what I'm talking about...pretty ordinary stuff.

But folks, if you're straight with people and offer them value, it works.

You don't have to be a freaking master copywriter to get people to open
your emails.

Just be straight with them.
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Jon Tees

14 years ago

I've gotten more of these than I care to remember. The thing is, the affiliate programs that I am in don't send sales notifications. The only way I would know if I made a sale is if I checked my statistics in my back office. When I do get e-mail from these affiliate programs, its sent from specific senders who I would be familiar with or from the companies themselves.

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iYingHang

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Gene Pimentel

Anybody else getting emails with this subject line? I've been getting them every few days. Today, I had enough, so I replied to the sender:

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Congratulations! You've lost a subscriber.

Why on earth would you use such deceptive subject lines?

Good luck,

Gene
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He replied back within minutes:

I'm happy to have you leave!!

Stay away from marketing!!

Moron!!!
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Right. Where DO these brilliant wanna-be marketers come from?

I won't mention any names of course but I encourage you to unsubscribe whenever you get an email with a blatant deceptive subject.

.

What a cool IMer to call his/her own subscriber a moron.

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Lisa Gergets

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Gene Pimentel

Anybody else getting emails with this subject line? I've been getting them every few days. Today, I had enough, so I replied to the sender:

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Congratulations! You've lost a subscriber.

Why on earth would you use such deceptive subject lines?

Good luck,

Gene
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He replied back within minutes:

I'm happy to have you leave!!

Stay away from marketing!!

Moron!!!
---------------

Right. Where DO these brilliant wanna-be marketers come from?

I won't mention any names of course but I encourage you to unsubscribe whenever you get an email with a blatant deceptive subject.

.

WHOA! Who needs to stay away from marketing?

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Chris Q

Banned 14 years ago

I have been receiving messages like this, and I just simply ignore and unsubscribe from them. I don't believe in those BS messages that can make it promising. Stay away from those spammers!

They are the ones who will be called MOREONS, not for those like us who unsubscribed with their "fake" promising messages!

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jasondinner 14 years ago

The "you just made a sale" subject probably has a high open rate, but also a high unsubscribe rate once people realize they didn't make a sale... causing disappointment and
anger to set in.

Steve, I'm with you on the being straight forward.

Although I have in the past and probably will in the future use the "Thank You" subject line.

But then again, I really don't promote many products to my list anymore. Hardly been over the last few months. (i went underground with affiliate marketing)

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RDJLabs

14 years ago

Whoa It would be ridiculous to get one of these.. Did you actually get one?

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Sumit Menon

14 years ago

Lol.. I just got one!

I replied with the exact message of yours.. I hope this is the same guy! :p

Sumit.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Gene Pimentel

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Congratulations! You've lost a subscriber.

Why on earth would you use such deceptive subject lines?

Good luck,

Gene
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Gene, I just LOVE your reply - I have one of these gems sitting in my inbox right now and I'm going to reply with something similar to this one.

Another one that has really been bothering me lately is the one titled "You have a list of 10,000 Subscribers". I unsubscribed to one of them a few days ago after receiving 4 of them from the same bozo within days. Now I see someone else is sending me the same crap.

You've inspired me to unsubscribe from this one with something along the lines of "Now you have a list of one less subscriber!".

Thanks for the inspiration Gene!

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Nick Lotter

14 years ago

I received this same e-mail today too.

I was like, how the hell would (name withheld) know when I made a sale?

The offer itself was just as outrageous and deceiving...

Ironically, the guy who sent me that e-mail had sent out a mail 2 weeks ago promising he would stop sending crap and will now only send out real solid information.

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Marketstriker

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Gene Pimentel

I'm happy to have you leave!!

Stay away from marketing!!

Moron!!!
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Wow! Rood answer.
For me it's hard to understand how is it possible not to respect your subscribers, potential clients. May be these marketers are kids? Lol.
Thank God my spam filter helps me to escape reading most of these letters.

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Katie Rich

14 years ago

... Confirmed: Your First Sale online.

Just received and from someone who I would NEVER have expected to use this!

Unsubscription on it's way.....

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Gene Pimentel 14 years ago

Yeah, I've received many of these too. They get the same heave-ho.

Originally Posted by Katie Rich

... Confirmed: Your First Sale online.

Just received and from someone who I would NEVER have expected to use this!

Unsubscription on it's way.....
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GoGetta

14 years ago

It seems that maybe the people sending these are part of a marketing or coaching course, and this is a subject line, or similar, they are told to use!

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Gary McCaffrey

14 years ago

I get more annoyed when people use 'personal' in the subject line when it is not personal.

I can usually eaily recognize a fake 'You've Just Made A Sale' email by looking at whether it is from something I have promoted.

But somebody putting personal in the subject of a broadcast really gets my goat.

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John Atkins

14 years ago

I also recieved:

1) 'Your Affiliate Check'

2) 'Where should we send your affiliate check?'

(:0 Can you believe that one?)

3) 'Your affiliate commisions are waiting'

4) 'Your first sale!'

Lol the second one is the worst by far... I couldn't believe my eyes
when I saw it... I mean c'mon, how can someone possibly use
a deceptive subject like that? I'm sure that he'll get a very high open
rate by using a subject line like that, but I'm also sure that he'll lose
a massive amount of subscribers as well...

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Eswar 14 years ago

I am really getting angry of getting this kind of emails. I get many emails of this kind even from some popular marketers.
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WD Mino

14 years ago

How about |Congratulations paid members were just placed under you.
Hurry we have your affiliate check and need to know where to send it.
Ridiculous.

My response is usually "it is people like you that give hard working marketers like me a great chance at success people are tired of deceptive tactics and false promises so they would rather deal with an honest person rather then you. you are the weakest link good bye"
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Floyd Fisher

14 years ago

I get 'em all the time.

Here's what I don't get: Why unsubscribe? Just forward the emails to the FTC, then sit back and watch the fireworks.

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mywebwork

14 years ago

Here is an update - I just responded to the same message with a similar message that Gene sent and received this reply:

.................................................. ..........
Excellent! Glad to see you go!

Get lost!
.................................................. .........

I think we may be dealing with the same marketer, this is one occasion in which I really wish that we could name names on the forum!

Bill

P.S. One thing to note is that this marketing genius has misspelled "congratulations" in his subject line!

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Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by mywebwork

Here is an update - I just responded to the same message with a similar message that Gene sent and received this reply:

.................................................. ..........
Excellent! Glad to see you go!

Get lost!
.................................................. .........

I think we may be dealing with the same marketer, this is one occasion in which I really wish that we could name names on the forum!

Bill

Names are named here all the time. Here's just one example:

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...tank-kern.html

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14 years ago

Hmmm why would a marketer of any kind be responding like that what a jack @ss
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Jeremy Kelsall

14 years ago

I don't know if it is the same guy or not, but I got the same email...

My Reply

Why does it burn when I pee?

His response

Huh? What does that have to do with anything!!!

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Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

I don't know if it is the same guy or not, but I got the same email...

My Reply

Why does it burn when I pee?

His response

Huh? What does that have to do with anything!!!

It would be even scarier if he answered your question.

We know this isn't Jason Dinner. He would have sent you a link to penicillin. I wonder how he knows all this stuff.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

I don't know if it is the same guy or not, but I got the same email...

My Reply

Why does it burn when I pee?

His response

Huh? What does that have to do with anything!!!

ROTFLMBO

I was half asleep after eating a fairly big lunch. Thanks Jeremy for giving me a great laugh and waking me up.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

I don't know if it is the same guy or not, but I got the same email...

My Reply

Why does it burn when I pee?

His response

Huh? What does that have to do with anything!!!

Jeremy, you crack me up.

In reply to Black Hat Cat, yes, technically, these subjects are in
violation of Can Spam law (something I just wrote about) and should be
reported.

Good catch there.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat

Names are named here all the time. Here's just one example:

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...tank-kern.html

Good point. I have to admit I've never been clear about this specific rule and prefer to err on the side of caution. Perhaps a big name like Frank Kern, Willie Crawford or Mike Filsaime has become more of a brand than a name?

Having said that if anyone want's to PM me I'll happily give you my e-mail address so we can exchange information about this individual off the forum.

Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat

Technically, according to spam laws currently on the books, it probably does make him a spammer. Deceptive headlines violate CANSPAM.

"2.Don't use deceptive subject lines. The subject line must accurately reflect the content of the message.

The CAN-SPAM Act: A Compliance Guide for Business

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

In reply to Black Hat Cat, yes, technically, these subjects are in
violation of Can Spam law (something I just wrote about) and should be
reported.

Good catch there.

Excellent point - and I have just filed a SPAM complaint with the FTC on this individual. Not sure if it will amount to anything, but it did make me feel empowered!

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

Thank you for your offer, but I have a question. Do you think a crusty ointment bag can be cleaned, or should it be thrown away? I'd like to know because I need a good way to carry pudding to my doctor's appointment.

Dennis, this is priceless! Best laugh I've had in a while!

Of course now I'll have to report you to the FTC for spamming the forum with posts that don't match the subject line!

:rolleyes:

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

I love your reply LOL

I really have to start trying some of this stuff. Trouble is, as I said, I
am on so few lists, I don't get crappy subjects like these unless it is
actual spam. And then I just report it anyway.

Glad you liked it, Steve. Do try it, it's rather fun.

Like you, I'm only on a few "keeper" mailing lists as I call them, but I'm also usually on 3-5 lists on a temporary basis as well. Most of these are a result of squeeze page report I wanted to check out or from a War Room free offer. I seldom stay subscribed because all they do is market. That's their business, but if you want to keep me on your list offer something solid that I don't have to buy once in a while. An endless parade of affiliate programs doesn't impress me.

Originally Posted by mywebwork

Excellent point - and I have just filed a SPAM complaint with the FTC on this individual. Not sure if it will amount to anything, but it did make me feel empowered!

Dennis, this is priceless! Best laugh I've had in a while!

Of course now I'll have to report you to the FTC for spamming the forum with posts that don't match the subject line!

:rolleyes:

Bill

Glad I could give you a good laugh, Bill. But if you report me I'm going to send you a crusty ointment bag filled with pudding!

I don't suppose the FTC will let you know if they do anything about this guy or not, might be worth creating a Google alert to see if they actually nail him.

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Banned 14 years ago

Just goes to show who the "moron" is. I get spam email with the same subject line as my DLGuard sends me when I do make a sale. There's no end to tricks that spammers will try. Always some new twist to get that spam delivered and opened.

Sounds like this guy is like a marketer I emailed with questions about his product. He quickly pasted some crap answer in that didn't address my questions and his price quote was twice as much as his site said.

I replied that I'd pass since I couldn't get my questions answered ....
He replied ... Good.

Why people build a business just to run prospects off, is beyond me.

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jasondinner

14 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Just goes to show who the "moron" is. I get spam email with the same subject line as my DLGuard sends me when I do make a sale. There's no end to tricks that spammers will try. Always some new twist to get that spam delivered and opened.

Sounds like this guy is like a marketer I emailed with questions about his product. He quickly pasted some crap answer in that didn't address my questions and his price quote was twice as much as his site said.

I replied that I'd pass since I couldn't get my questions answered ....
He replied ... Good.

Why people build a business just to run prospects off, is beyond me.

It doesn't make them a scammer or a spammer. It's just a tactic to get people to open the email.

Doesn't mean it's the best approach. Now it just makes it hard to tell the difference between a REAL sale notification or just another cheesy attempt to get me to open an email ad.

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Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by jasondinner

It doesn't make them a scammer or a spammer. It's just a tactic to get people to open the email.

- Jason

Technically, according to spam laws currently on the books, it probably does make him a spammer. Deceptive headlines violate CANSPAM.

"2.Don't use deceptive subject lines. The subject line must accurately reflect the content of the message.

The CAN-SPAM Act: A Compliance Guide for Business

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat

Technically, according to spam laws currently on the books, it probably does make him a spammer. Deceptive headlines violate CANSPAM.

"2.Don't use deceptive subject lines. The subject line must accurately reflect the content of the message.

The CAN-SPAM Act: A Compliance Guide for Business

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Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by jasondinner

It doesn't make them a scammer or a spammer. It's just a tactic to get people to open the email.

Doesn't mean it's the best approach. Now it just makes it hard to tell the difference between a REAL sale notification or just another cheesy attempt to get me to open an email ad.

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Uhhh .. yes it does. I'm not on their "list". I'm on very few lists. These emails come in as unsolicited commercial email, which is SPAM.

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Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Uhhh .. yes it does. I'm not on their "list". I'm on very few lists. These emails come in as unsolicited commercial email, which is SPAM.

Uhhh, you never said that you weren't on their list. Unless I missed it.

In that case, then you may be correct.
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14 years ago

Great job Jer hahahahha rotflmao thanks I needed that
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14 years ago

Man it seems like I'm missing out on some great spam emails..

I'd join that list just for the comedy value.

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Dennis Gaskill

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Katie Rich

Is it just me, or does the word 'shocking' in an email subject line also cause anyone to delete the message?

I'm SHOCKED you would even ask that! ...but yeah, I delete anything that seems exaggerated or over the top. Be real or be gone!

Sometimes I reply with pure nonsense. I went to my Sent folder to retrieve an example for you:

Thank you for your offer, but I have a question. Do you think a crusty ointment bag can be cleaned, or should it be thrown away? I'd like to know because I need a good way to carry pudding to my doctor's appointment.

He replied, "what the f*** are you talking about? Are you retarded? "

I gamed him for 3 or 4 emails before he quit responding. Haven't heard from him since so I think he unsubscribed me...either that or I drove him mad!

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

I'm SHOCKED you would even ask that! ...but yeah, I delete anything that seems exaggerated or over the top. Be real or be gone!

Sometimes I reply with pure nonsense. I went to my Sent folder to retrieve an example for you:

Thank you for your offer, but I have a question. Do you think a crusty ointment bag can be cleaned, or should it be thrown away? I'd like to know because I need a good way to carry pudding to my doctor's appointment.

He replied, "what the f*** are you talking about? Are you retarded? "

I gamed him for 3 or 4 emails before he quit responding. Haven't heard from him since so I think he unsubscribed me...either that or I drove him mad!

I love your reply LOL

I really have to start trying some of this stuff. Trouble is, as I said, I
am on so few lists, I don't get crappy subjects like these unless it is
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duncanb

14 years ago

I'm just itching for an email like that to come into my account so i can write a response like some of these!

haha

Thanks

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