How You Start and Succeed?

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Hi Guys,

I've been "trying" for years to succeed online but now I'm still nothing. I say "trying" cos I jump from one place to another. I learn a lot but I simply don't know where should I start and persist on.

If you succeed in affiliate marketing, adsense, membership sites or whatever it is related to online business, would you share with me how you get started, how you persist on and how you succeed?

Thanks and appreciate you time!
#start #succeed
  • Profile picture of the author MJ Sterling
    Stop jumping from one place to another.

    Find something that interests you and stick with it, some of it will be boring, some of it will be hard work, some of it will cause you stress.

    Hopefully most of it will give you a sense of satisfaction, independence and security.

    You could make a daily chart of things you need to do each day, breaking it down hour by hour.

    Online business is much like any business, we have more perks but we work just as hard. And we don't clock-off at 5pm, it's more than a full time vocation.
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  • Profile picture of the author ericlooi
    Thanks MJ!

    I guess my greatest problem is doubting.

    Doubting if things will work
    Doubting if I can succeed or not

    I need to clear my doubt first. Make a plan and follow it through.

    Work harder! Yes!
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  • Profile picture of the author MJ Sterling
    Trust me man if I can do it, and I'm really not that smart, then anyone can do it.

    Think to yourself.. "if that MJ idiot can pull it off, just imagine what I'll be able to do"

    Maybe you don't need to work harder, just keep focused on each project until it's finished.
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  • Profile picture of the author ericlooi
    Haha.. Thanks MJ for your encouragement!

    Would you like to share your story with me? How long you take and what you are involving and what is your success now?
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    • Profile picture of the author MJ Sterling
      Originally Posted by ericlooi View Post

      Haha.. Thanks MJ for your encouragement!

      Would you like to share your story with me? How long you take and what you are involving and what is your success now?
      I started building websites and doing SEO back in the 90's when nobody wanted a site and nobody knew what SEO was. It's easier now, much easier.

      You don't have to learn the same stuff anymore, there's tools and software to do everything for you. What used to take days to build now takes seconds.

      I measure my own success by the success of my customers. - I'm gonna use that as my sig actually.
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      • Profile picture of the author ericlooi
        I measure my own success by the success of my customers. - I'm gonna use that as my sig actually.
        I like this! I want to help others to succeed as well.
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      • Profile picture of the author whossh
        Originally Posted by MJ Sterling View Post

        I started building websites and doing SEO back in the 90's when nobody wanted a site and nobody knew what SEO was. It's easier now, much easier.

        You don't have to learn the same stuff anymore, there's tools and software to do everything for you. What used to take days to build now takes seconds.

        I measure my own success by the success of my customers. - I'm gonna use that as my sig actually.
        Hi Mj, i would like to set-up my weblog soon.., hope to get some guidance from you.
        What is the next thing to do after keyword analysis and domain acquisition?
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        • Profile picture of the author MJ Sterling
          Originally Posted by whossh View Post

          Hi Mj, i would like to set-up my weblog soon.., hope to get some guidance from you.
          What is the next thing to do after keyword analysis and domain acquisition?
          It depends on your business model. Feel free to drop me a PM, I don't want to derail the thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Yes the good thing is that you know exactly whats wrong so now you have to fix it...thats the next toughest part.

    Jumping around will get you nowhere...its one of the biggest mistakes I see people make. SO now, whatever method you liked the most, just stick with it. If it was CPA, just pick that and make it work. If it is adsense, do the same. So first you need to pick a path and then stick with it and MAKE IT WORK. You can make awesome money doing anything in IM as long as you stick with it long enough to understand how it works.

    Secondly, you cant doubt. Almost all entrepreneurs will tell you they had a vision and believed with everything they have that it will work. Its this persistence and honest belief that will motivated you to overcome the many challenges you will face.

    In all, you seem like you have a good head on your shoulders and you recognize what needs to be done. Now do it!
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  • Profile picture of the author ericlooi
    Yeah Kenster! DO IT!

    Another problem that I face is what market to start with. I mean niche.

    How do you guys pick a niche to start with?
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by ericlooi View Post

      Yeah Kenster! DO IT!

      Another problem that I face is what market to start with. I mean niche.

      How do you guys pick a niche to start with?

      Depends. I do CPA marketing and a good resource I use is looking in newspaper and magazine racks. Tons of great niche ideas I use for CPA, but great niches can be found for any kind of marketing!
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      • Profile picture of the author ericlooi
        Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

        Depends. I do CPA marketing and a good resource I use is looking in newspaper and magazine racks. Tons of great niche ideas I use for CPA, but great niches can be found for any kind of marketing!
        That's cool! Never use newspaper and magazine as source to find the niches.

        I'm using some software to find niches though.

        What's your experience in War Room? Good?
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        • Profile picture of the author Mr. Enthusiastic
          Originally Posted by ericlooi View Post

          What's your experience in War Room? Good?
          The War Room is a gigantic archive, mostly of very detailed how-to reports and advanced strategies about all aspects of Internet marketing. Discussions are linked to these individual presentations, so they tend to be far more focused and in-depth than the main forum, with hardly any chit-chat.

          I've recommended the War Room to almost everyone who's asked. But in your case, Eric, I'd really rather see you use the Mind Warriors free forum here to get inspired and to build diligence. Without those traits, all the sophisticated strategies in the world from the War Room won't do you any more good than the strategies you've already set aside.

          Right now, the War Room would be for you like a fully-equipped gourmet kitchen for a guy who's kinda in a mood to run out to McDonald's. Save your money until there's some, well, enthusiasm to do something specific. If you then look for that specific something in the War Room, you'll really get your money's worth.
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          • Profile picture of the author ericlooi
            I've recommended the War Room to almost everyone who's asked. But in your case, Eric, I'd really rather see you use the Mind Warriors free forum here to get inspired and to build diligence. Without those traits, all the sophisticated strategies in the world from the War Room won't do you any more good than the strategies you've already set aside.

            Right now, the War Room would be for you like a fully-equipped gourmet kitchen for a guy who's kinda in a mood to run out to McDonald's. Save your money until there's some, well, enthusiasm to do something specific. If you then look for that specific something in the War Room, you'll really get your money's worth.
            Thanks for your recommendation. I will go through it and make it to the top. I'm inspired by you guys! Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr. Enthusiastic
    Eric, I think that MJ and Ken are giving you some really rockin' advice!

    You're trying one system after another that has worked for other people. Some systems are better for particular personalities, sure. But if system after system falls apart for you because you don't work the system, then the solution isn't really another system.

    The solution has to do with your own attitude, schedule, and persistence. With these foundations, you can pick whichever system seems reasonably appealing. You'll stick with it through the tedious parts. And you'll make it work for you.

    In addition to the great discussion right here, I also recommend you read endpoint's "pooped on" thread in the Mind Warriors subforum. He got lots of suggestions of really terrific materials - many of them free or dirt cheap - to help a person reset their mindset. Browse through there and pick something that appeals to you. I think just about any of the positive people with suggestions would be delighted to walk you through their favorite stagnation-buster.

    You can see my favorites in that thread, but frankly almost anything that was suggested in there is great. It would help you see a whole new realm of possibilities for what you can accomplish with dedicated motivation that comes from inside of you. Guess what, that drive will make almost any good-enough system outside of you into a winning system - because that's the drive to make you a winner. A winning driver is gonna win no matter what he drives. You've already got your choice of adequate vehicles for your road to success. Become the winning driver.

    Chris
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    • Profile picture of the author ericlooi
      The solution has to do with your own attitude, schedule, and persistence. With these foundations, you can pick whichever system seems reasonably appealing. You'll stick with it through the tedious parts. And you'll make it work for you.
      Well said! Everything start with our mind. Gonna fine tune my mind and get to work.

      In addition to the great discussion right here, I also recommend you read endpoint's "pooped on" thread in the Mind Warriors subforum. He got lots of suggestions of really terrific materials - many of them free or dirt cheap - to help a person reset their mindset. Browse through there and pick something that appeals to you. I think just about any of the positive people with suggestions would be delighted to walk you through their favorite stagnation-buster.
      Do you mean this?
      warriorforum.com/mind-warriors-success-power-self-improvement/168870-like-i-am-always-getting-pooped.html

      You can see my favorites in that thread, but frankly almost anything that was suggested in there is great. It would help you see a whole new realm of possibilities for what you can accomplish with dedicated motivation that comes from inside of you. Guess what, that drive will make almost any good-enough system outside of you into a winning system - because that's the drive to make you a winner. A winning driver is gonna win no matter what he drives. You've already got your choice of adequate vehicles for your road to success. Become the winning driver.
      Ok! Let me drive the BMW - Best Marketing Warrior!
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      • Profile picture of the author Mr. Enthusiastic
        Originally Posted by ericlooi View Post

        Do you mean this?
        warriorforum.com/mind-warriors-success-power-self-improvement/168870-like-i-am-always-getting-pooped.html
        Yes, that's the thread I had in mind. Lots of great suggestions in there.

        Ok! Let me drive the BMW - Best Marketing Warrior!
        Love it! Once you get started you'll probably find it has cruise control and impresses the chicks.
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  • Profile picture of the author ericlooi
    Good advice in the comments above for you Eric.

    Also when picking a niche give some thought on what you want to accomplish in that niche.

    Remember people need tools..you can affiliate with products and services that help people do what they already do.

    And no matter what type of sales copy you see remember WORK is involved. Do not let WORK cause you to abandon ship.
    Thanks for the advice!

    Imagine a year ago where you would be today if you kept going with one single form of marketing..you may be an expert on that and creating your own product by now.
    To be honest, I just wasted too much time by not taking the right actions! I started to know about internet marketing/biz from year 2001 but until now I still stuck. That's really bad! But I'm going to make it!

    Thanks again!
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  • Profile picture of the author rocson
    Hey bud,

    I know exactlt how you feel i was there with you a little while back, I spent about 5 g's on courses ebooks and adwords before I stopped and took a deep breath and started over.

    With almost 99% of ways for you to make money you need to know how to build and optimize a website, then you need to know how to pic the correct keywords and products ect I have actually made a website showing the steps I took to start making money but the main reason of all was I didnt give up.
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