HELP! Entire Site Copied and Scammed Away...

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Some douche bag has copied my entire landing page text and put it as his own blog page. What can I do about this, is there any way to report a page?

Please help...

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#copied #entire #scammed #site
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Lear
    Damn, sorry to hear that mate, try doing a whois search on the website in question and see if you can get their contact info, and try and contact their host and domain registrar about it.

    Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    You can issue a dmca to the webhost and site owner.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Like WD said, file a DCMA notice with the site's host. Here's a page detailing how:

    How To File A DMCA Copyright Infringment Violation

    Some web hosts have instructions on their website for filing a DCMA with them. When you find the thief's host, check their first for instructions. Google and Yahoo also have instructions on how to file with them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lady
      Thank you for the address Dennis and I hope I will never have to use it. Brandon I am sorry your site was stolen. I hope you will receive restitution/ compensation from this gigantic headache.
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      • Profile picture of the author atwellpub
        Originally Posted by Lady View Post

        Thank you for the address Dennis and I hope I will never have to use it. Brandon I am sorry your site was stolen. I hope you will receive restitution/ compensation from this gigantic headache.
        Question: Can you issue a dmca if you have not taken the steps to copyright material?
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        • Profile picture of the author TheJedi
          Originally Posted by atwellpub View Post

          Question: Can you issue a dmca if you have not taken the steps to copyright material?

          According to Wikipedia:

          "Under the [Berne] Convention, copyrights for creative works are automatically in force upon their creation without being asserted or declared. An author need not "register" or "apply for" a copyright in countries adhering to the Convention. As soon as a work is "fixed", that is, written or recorded on some physical medium, its author is automatically entitled to all copyrights in the work and to any derivative works, unless and until the author explicitly disclaims them or until the copyright expires."

          So I guess the question here is: Is a web page considered a "physical medium"?
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        • Profile picture of the author TristanPerry
          Originally Posted by atwellpub View Post

          Question: Can you issue a dmca if you have not taken the steps to copyright material?
          You don't need to "take steps"

          It's copyrighted the moment you create it.

          Of course, sticking "(C) [Name] [Date]. All Rights Reserved." at the bottom of the page, and officially registering the content, can help to prove things, although it's not really *required* (just helpful)
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Issue a DMCA to his host. They'll make him take it down within 2 days. Go to domainingdiva.com, about 4th post down for a sample DMCA and instructions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Branlan17
    Where do I find out their host? I'm trying a whois search but not getting anything : /
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Branlan17 View Post

      Where do I find out their host? I'm trying a whois search but not getting anything : /
      Read my post above. The post I'm referring to gives you the how to find host and a sample DMCa
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    So sorry to hear that. It can happen to anyone and I am not too sure if you can do a lot about that.

    Maybe you should email or call his hosting company and tell them about this. They may help you out and delete that page for his and also notify him of the wrong doing.

    Tal
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    • Profile picture of the author carlos123
      Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

      So sorry to hear that. It can happen to anyone and I am not too sure if you can do a lot about that.
      Sure you can. Aside from DCMA requests to the appropriate parties involved from their web host to Google and anyone else who is a party to the copyright violation even if indirectly, if they have Adsense on their site you can click on the Ads by Google link and report their Adsense as spam (given that it's a copy of your own and in violation of copyright). And you can keep reporting it as spam every week or so until Google starts to pay attention.

      You can also get your friends in the act, if they too think is spam, and start reporting their Adsense as spam too from their own computers.

      Get on Google's Webmaster Forum and start a thread asking for input on what to do about this thievery. Give them the URL of the offending site. The moderators there are not Google employees but they are in tight with official employees and if you make your case there some one or more of them might drop a line to an official Google person who will look into your case. You never know. It's a backdoor way into Google.

      You can also send spam complaints to their web host, their domain registrar, their ISP, their grandmother (huh?) and any and every other party you can think of that has anything at all to do with their domain. Lots of places are so paranoid about spam that they will shut him/her down rather than risk being sued under the CAN-SPAM something act.

      Get your friends to help. Have them file separate complaints to the same entities saying they know you and they think it's ridiculous what is happening.

      If they have affiliate links on their site you can move right along and start reporting their site as spam to their affiliate companies too.

      When you do your spam reporting I would throw in a measured and carefully selected reference to some laws that might entitle you to sue. You have to be careful about the wording but few companies want legal entanglements.

      Whether you would actually see it as worthwhile to sue or not doesn't matter. It's the perceived entanglement of a suit where you are in the right that will get them to side with you 9 times out of 10.

      What you want is to have the company receiving the complaint start thinking that there is some suable, illegal thing going on that they might be on the tail end of if they don't do something. Again you want to make a point but do not threaten. Just lay it out as you see it. Explain that you are the copyright holder and that you hope it doesn't come down to your being forced to take the legal route. That type of thing.

      Make a ruckus.

      People who steal content don't like attention. The more attention you draw to them the more likely it is that they will not consider what they stole from you to be worth the hassle.

      Keep at it until you get your way.

      It's your content. You have every right to use any and all available and legal means to protect your rights. And to use the leverage of knowing you are in the right to appeal to those who are involved in providing the thief with their web hosting and anything else.

      But...before you do any of that...try and get a hold of the thief and reason with them. Explain what you will do about complaining to everyone and anyone that they are connected with. Give them a chance to undo what they did and walk away gracefully. Give them a time limit. Something like if they don't take down your content in 48 hours or some such that the wheels of your complaints will begin.

      Explain that they will get blacklisted by Google, perhaps have their web hosting canceled. Play up all the fears that might be somewhat if not entirely feasable.

      Again...thieves don't want the spotlight. Play on that fear.

      It's all in how you word things. You will have to think carefully about what to say.

      If the thief relents...drop it. If they don't...well...put up your dukes and start a punching. They had their chance and didn't take the easy way out.

      I pity the thief who ends up on the tail end of this onslought.

      Carlos
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  • Profile picture of the author Branlan17
    All I can get from the whois search is the domain registrar, is there a way to find out the hosting company?
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    All brandon needs to do now is a dmca issue I got the info for him
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    Anything derived from an original author put onto any medium is copyrighted automatically and it does not expire until the authors death sometimes years after. not a lawyer just studied up on it so whether web video audio painting or art work etc copyright is immediate and remains with the author unless the rights are transferred by the author
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  • Profile picture of the author TristanPerry
    Send his host a DMCA request. That's the best (and official/legally correct) way of dealing with it

    Any decent host will comply with the DMCA request within days if not hours.
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    ^ Server logs can also provide proof
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  • Profile picture of the author Louise Green
    Welcome to the wild west.

    One of my products was stolen, each video and PDF, my site ripped and was being 'flipped' over and over again.

    Get your lawyer to deal with it, those people ain't worth your time, that's what I did.
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  • Profile picture of the author Branlan17
    What I'm wondering now is, because his page is outranking mine for the same content, am I going to have to completely re-write my lander or would the index be rectified if his page didn't exist next crawl?
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  • Profile picture of the author TheJedi
    It doesn't help much after the fact, but I use a service called Copyscape to keep track of site thieves. If you sign up for premium membership, it crawls your page, then periodically scours the internet looking for duplicate content (even if it's only a percentage of your content, it still returns back a warning to you). In addition, they give you a little graphic to put at the bottom of your pages thats says "Protected By Copyscape", which hopefully will deter would-be thieves. You can also use the free version at their website (Copyscape Plagiarism Checker - Duplicate Content Detection Software) but you have to manually input your site url whenever you go to use it.
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