*Update 2: He Gave Me The DB* Get Your Butt Off Your Chair and Go Offline NOW!

by Daniel Molano 62 replies
I used to think all the money was online, well, just a few hours ago I d¡scovered how unbelievably wrong I was.

A friend of mine asked me to please do an Internet Marketing presentation to his International Business Administration class right here in Mexico in one of the top universities. I REALLY didn't want to do it and thought it was a waste of my precious time. But I owed him one, so I sort of had to.

Anyway, this was two hours ago from the time I am writing this. I thought to myself "Oh well, might as well get some free publicity." (I couldn't charge for the presentation.) This was adressed to a class of 50 people.

These guys had absolutely no clue about Internet Marketing, so I did a very basic Power Point presentation and I was bombarded with questions, everyone was really interested and of course, I got to promote my IM niche product.

I explained affiliate marketing to them in high detail, at the end of the class one of the students approached me and said:

"...I am working for [Company Name] (Huge Multi National Corporation) here in Mexico, I'm in the marketing department and I have access to the company's mailing list which is composed of over 750,000 direct mail and e-mail adresses from all over the world. Give me the affiliate link for your IM system (my product) and I will send a promotion about it this week."

To make it short, I just landed a HUGE Joint Venture with a list of over 750,000 adresses (both physical and digital) that is going to promote my product. Even if only 1% converts for a $47 product (with 50% commission minus fees) that is $159,225 USD right there for me (and for him).

As a newbie, that is the best possible JV I could've ever landed, that is a bigger list than almost every single Internet Marketer out there (with the exception of people like Mike Filsaime), and it was offered by a STUDENT who happens to have access to the mailing list of that company probably just because his rich daddy owns half of the shares in Mexico, I didn't have to contact the CEO or anything like that.

And I did it all just by doing a presentation in a third world country university to a class of only 50 students which I DID NOT want to do in the first place.

So get your butt out of your chair and start going offline as well.

Best of luck,

Daniel Molano

PS: While at it, I also landed a couple of dates with some VERY good looking college students (who approached me, not the other way around).

*Update*

The professor for the class I did the presentation to called me today and asked me to please do a conference in the university to the entire International Business Administation student body (Over 850 students) about IM similar to the class presentation.

I gotta love this, a presentation I didn't even want to do in the first place is generating all these opportunities.

Oh and one of the dates went fine yestarday, VERY high conversion.

I will post the PG-13 pictures soon.

The video I've already sold to a fellow warrior in the adult industry and signed an NDA, so sorry.

*Update 2*

Things keep getting better and better (or is this bad?)

The guy gave me the company database, 450,000 e-mails (Wasn't 750,000, but still a great number). He said he couldn't do the broadcast himself but that I could have the database to play with it.

Guys, I need advice here, how can I use a DB that large effectively AND legally?

*/Update*
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
    Holy crap! That is freaking absolutely insanely awesome dude!

    Great job my friend!

    Frank Bruno
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  • Profile picture of the author Gene Pimentel
    What a fantastic story Daniel! I can't wait to hear how it all ends up. Be sure to keep us posted!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
      Originally Posted by Gene Pimentel View Post

      What a fantastic story Daniel! I can't wait to hear how it all ends up. Be sure to keep us posted!!
      Will do, the broadcast promotion hasn't happened yet, but it should be happening anytime this week (or next). I will definitely post results once it does.
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    That seriously is something! Definitely keep us updated on this!
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  • Profile picture of the author GrantFreeman
    Nice!

    I ran into an old friend a few weeks ago, who's a marketing manager. She tried to tell me that print ads are failing and nobody wants to advertise in printed publications anymore.

    This sounded like a pitch to me, because she knew I was self employed, but I never let on that I didn't buy into the idea

    When I asked her why that was so, she couldn't answer my question. Could it be that most who advertise in print don't know a lot about marketing? Hmmm.

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  • Profile picture of the author Terry Ma
    Congratulations Daniel,

    That is a very exciting event to hear, I guess you might
    also have to part 50% of the estimated $160 000 to the
    student? So you get to keep $80 000.

    That is still really cool, $80k "object in pocket" just like
    this without really doing much work.

    But I doubt I can do the same here in to my locals since
    most people don't know English from where I am from.

    Thanks for great post anyway,

    Terry

    P.S. Now that you are starting a date some hot college
    girls, you might want to buy my $97 product addresses
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
      Originally Posted by Terry Ma View Post

      Congratulations Daniel,

      That is a very exciting event to hear, I guess you might
      also have to part 50% of the estimated $160 000 to the
      student? So you get to keep $80 000.

      That is still really cool, $80k "object in pocket" just like
      this without really doing much work.

      But I doubt I can do the same here in to my locals since
      most people don't know English from where I am from.

      Thanks for great post anyway,

      Terry

      P.S. Now that you are starting a date some hot college
      girls, you might want to buy my $97 product addresses
      "How to Make Hot College Girls Go Crazy for You in a
      Matter of Seconds!" *Kidding* =P
      Actually, I already did the calculations including commissions, he would get $159,225 and I would also get $159,225 (or so), for a total of $318,450 in sales (If only 1% converts, if more converts then it is much more).

      In Mexico most people speak english decently so that is not a problem.

      I can't believe I was excited for making 130 sales by landing an online JV with a marketer with a relatively big list, this is so much bigger.

      Daniel

      PS: I already know how to make them go crazy.
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      • Profile picture of the author Terry Ma
        Originally Posted by Daniel Molano View Post

        Actually, I already did the calculations including commissions, he would get $159,225 and I would also get $159,225 (or so), for a total of $318,450 in sales (If only 1% converts, if more converts then it is much more).

        In Mexico most people speak english decently so that is not a problem.

        I can't believe I was excited for making 130 sales by landing an online JV with a marketer with a relatively big list, this is so much bigger.

        Daniel

        PS: I already know how to make them go crazy.
        That's pretty obscenely huge figures from just one promotion.

        I noticed you mentioned yourself as a newbie, I think you
        will very quickly become a pro after this experience.

        P.S. Damn! Couldn't cash in on your success! Ok, how about
        this? How to dump a girl in the most peaceful way. That's
        $197, thanks in advance.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jose Delgado
          holy freaking moly!

          that is awesome Daniel!

          maybe you can tell him to promote my site too or you can.

          good luck man.

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    Let us know after he makes the mailing. Sounds like you have a shot at something here. Good luck!
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    Awesome! Good job buddy!
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  • Profile picture of the author ExRat
    Hi Daniel,

    While at it, I also landed a couple of dates with some VERY good looking college students (who approached me, not the other way around)
    Nice work, great result.

    To make it short, I just landed a HUGE Joint Venture with a list of over 750,000 adresses
    Never mind, just don't let it get in the way of those dates.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
      Originally Posted by write-stuff View Post

      All I can say is "wow!" Great job. Do you use PowerPoint very much? I use it heavily online (example: www.goldsealflight.com/cardell/player.html) and think I do a pretty good job with it. So many people turn it into a nightmare of bullet points and end up putting their audience to sleep.
      I have never used Power Point online, I've only used it a couple of times for offline presentations.

      Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

      Hi Daniel,



      Nice work, great result.



      Never mind, just don't let it get in the way of those dates.
      I won't, trust me.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ricter
        You are very fortunate! My company would fire me, maybe sue me, if I used the company database to sell someone else's goods!

        A pity, it's a large database, and populated with billionaire oil and gas companies.

        Take the money and run!
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
        Congratulations Daniel!

        Thats awesome news man, but what kind of business does the company do that you are doing a JV with?
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        • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
          Originally Posted by Ricter View Post

          You are very fortunate! My company would fire me, maybe sue me, if I used the company database to sell someone else's goods!

          A pity, it's a large database, and populated with billionaire oil and gas companies.

          Take the money and run!
          Yes I would think so too, no idea how he has access to the mailing list, probably because (like I said before) his father owns half the company or something along those lines. He did seem like a rich kid (well not so much a kid, he was around mid 20s).

          Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

          Congratulations Daniel!

          Thats awesome news man, but what kind of business does the company do that you are doing a JV with?
          I believe it's a huge MNE, he works in something to do with loans (in the marketing department), and one of the branches is a publicity agency.

          Either way I have nothing to lose, I just give him the affiliate link and he does the broadcast, it's not like I have to invest anything.

          This is not a Mexican company, but it does have huge market positioning here.

          Dan

          PS: It all started by me telling him that he could send an e-mail to his friends with the affiliate link to make some extra cash and he was like "Forget my friends, I have access to a 750,000 people mailing list."
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            • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Gatica
              That sounds fantastic Daniel,
              Just one question,
              What do you think the conversions would be on the dates?


              In all seriousness, good luck and Hope you do well.

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              • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
                Originally Posted by Jeremy Gatica View Post

                That sounds fantastic Daniel,
                Just one question,
                What do you think the conversions would be on the dates?


                In all seriousness, good luck and Hope you do well.

                Jeremy
                Well Jeremy, not to sound too arrogant, but I normally get an average 367% conversion rate on dates.

                It all depends on outside statistical factors like mood, music, light level, but mainly the alcohol intoxication level is what makes the sale! :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Asher
    Wow, that is AWESOME Daniel!
    Way to go!
    We've probably got a guru in the making, heh.
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  • Profile picture of the author OnlineMasterMind
    That is awesome....congrats!

    ESPECIALLY this part:

    Originally Posted by Daniel Molano View Post

    PS: While at it, I also landed a couple of dates with some VERY good looking college students (who approached me, not the other way around).
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    • Profile picture of the author Iain Ainsworth
      ______________

      PS: While at it, I also landed a couple of dates with some VERY good looking college students (who approached me, not the other way around).
      _______________

      That's just being greedy...

      Having your cake and eating it too!

      Jealous? You bet your sweet ass!

      Good luck man - and well done!
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    Originally Posted by Daniel Molano View Post

    PS: While at it, I also landed a couple of dates with some VERY good looking college students (who approached me, not the other way around).
    Now that's what I'm talking about!

    Great story and good luck, I hope you convert that 1% (or more)! Do update us when you make a killing with that huge list (also with the girls you'll date... kidding!)
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Kenzington
    Dude,

    That is AWESOME! You've got to keep us updated as to how this all turns out...what percent of people on the list convert into sales, how big your list now becomes once you've added these buyers to it, etc...

    And, these will be buyers! That's the kind of list most IM'ers would sell their mother's kidney for! No freebie seekers, there. Pure Gold.

    Congratulations, man, you are ON YOUR WAY!,

    Adam
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    • Profile picture of the author Adam Kenzington
      Hey,

      I almost forgot, offer to help this guy write the sales pitch.

      You want this converting at as high a percentage as possible, and if this guy is green or not familiar with Internet Marketing, he probably won't know how to optimize the sales pitch. Be as helpful as you can. Let him know you are very good at this and if he will let you review the message and tweek it a little before it's sent out, you can almost guarantee that he will have more money to put in his pocket because of it.

      Get'em Tiger!

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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
        Originally Posted by Jose Delgado View Post

        holy freaking moly!

        that is awesome Daniel!

        maybe you can tell him to promote my site too or you can.

        good luck man.

        Actually I saw your site the other day and I must say you have something good going on there.

        How about you add my affiliate program to those review site templates and we can settle something.

        Originally Posted by Adam Kenzington View Post

        Hey,

        I almost forgot, offer to help this guy write the sales pitch.

        You want this converting at as high a percentage as possible, and if this guy is green or not familiar with Internet Marketing, he probably won't know how to optimize the sales pitch. Be as helpful as you can. Let him know you are very good at this and if he will let you review the message and tweek it a little before it's sent out, you can almost guarantee that he will have more money to put in his pocket because of it.

        Get'em Tiger!

        Adam
        Yes I will do that, I'm going over the details with this guy on monday.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMChick
    This is the most awesome news I heard all day. Good for you! Don't forget to let us know what happens.

    And that wiseguy with the 'how to dump her' OTO? Just leave a message on her answering machine or IM her. Use technology to your advantage! LOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author peterwhyte
    thats great,am sure you are really glad you honored the ivitation .thats a whole lot of money .but quickly let me ask how do i really go about my online and offline promotions successfully?am almost worse than a newbie in this booming online business and would reall want to be a success story in no time from now .
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  • Profile picture of the author Rachel Goodchild
    IO'ma huge believer in the power of offline- I get nearly allmy business from that method.
    I'mon the verge of stepping out and beginning a full on, with a proper office and everything...offline IM company , bulding on my existing clients and bringing on new staff.

    It REALLY works!
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
    Originally Posted by Daniel Molano View Post

    I explained affiliate marketing to them in high detail, at the end of the class one of the students approached me and said:

    "...I am working for [Company Name] (Huge Multi National Corporation) here in Mexico, I'm in the marketing department and I have access to the company's mailing list which is composed of over 750,000 direct mail and e-mail adresses from all over the world. Give me the affiliate link for your IM system (my product) and I will send a promotion about it this week."

    To make it short, I just landed a HUGE Joint Venture with a list of over 750,000 adresses (both physical and digital) that is going to promote my product. Even if only 1% converts for a $47 product (with 50% commission minus fees) that is $159,225 USD right there for me (and for him).

    PS: While at it, I also landed a couple of dates with some VERY good looking college students (who approached me, not the other way around).

    1. You may not get your 1% conversion. You'll find with a lot of these companies with large lists their emaill follow up is very similar to spamming offering offer after offer in fancy html emails with no attempt at providing content or value at all.

    But even if you do .1% conversion it's still $15,900 which is a pretty good payday for an evening's work.

    In fact even if you do just .03% conversion that's $4,770 in sales...again not bad for a night's work locally.


    2. Most important of all you got some dates with good looking college students. Mate to hell with the JV you're really on to something here!

    The money and fringe benefits in promoting your internet marketing products and services offline is huge.

    Some people aren't just getting girls. They're getting free products and services from businesses, eating out free, getting home improvements done free and more.

    Kindest regards,
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
      Originally Posted by peterwhyte View Post

      thats great,am sure you are really glad you honored the ivitation .thats a whole lot of money .but quickly let me ask how do i really go about my online and offline promotions successfully?am almost worse than a newbie in this booming online business and would reall want to be a success story in no time from now .
      I guess it's all about taking the dive (risking it).

      But first of all you need to have some strong knowledge on a particular subject and then you can approach related companies or educational institutions.

      After a while I know my fair share on IM and therefore I was approached to make this presentation (which I had no intention of doing).

      Originally Posted by Rachel Goodchild View Post

      IO'ma huge believer in the power of offline- I get nearly allmy business from that method.
      I'mon the verge of stepping out and beginning a full on, with a proper office and everything...offline IM company , bulding on my existing clients and bringing on new staff.

      It REALLY works!
      I used to be a huge non believer Rachel, but now I have been turned. Offline IM just demonstrated it's huge potential to me. Now off to more offline IMing (without leaving for granted my online operation).

      Originally Posted by AndrewCavanagh View Post

      1. You may not get your 1% conversion. You'll find with a lot of these companies with large lists their emaill follow up is very similar to spamming offering offer after offer in fancy html emails with no attempt at providing content or value at all.

      But even if you do .1% conversion it's still $15,900 which is a pretty good payday for an evening's work.

      In fact even if you do just .03% conversion that's $4,770 in sales...again not bad for a night's work locally.


      2. Most important of all you got some dates with good looking college students. Mate to hell with the JV you're really on to something here!

      The money and fringe benefits in promoting your internet marketing products and services offline is huge.

      Some people aren't just getting girls. They're getting free products and services from businesses, eating out free, getting home improvements done free and more.

      Kindest regards,
      Andrew Cavanagh
      Damn, Andrew, don't burst my bubble man! I was thinking 1% was aiming low, anyway, I guess you are right. We will see how it goes.

      The dates are just an extra benefit, but yes, coming to think of it, there are a lot of 'additional' benefits you can acquire from this, now it's just a matter of figuring out how to.
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    Congrats man! But the dates ain't real till we see pics! LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author donlester
    Seems you never know when simple things will bring huge rewards. There are a few companies like that our there who have never even started to tap into the potential of the internet. Congrats.
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      Killer move Daniel

      Congratulations and my hat is removed.. keep rockin

      Peace

      Jay

      p.s. And the hotties too... shuweeeeet
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    A great turn of events... you never know!

    congrats,
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce NewMedia
    Daniel I think thats awesome news!....good success to you.

    I kind of thought like Andrew when I saw the conversion % you were anticipating. I also think it may be much closer to one tenth of one percent or less..... Even that is still TERRIFIC for such a short time.

    BUT, that could be improved if your friend/contact will let you send 3 times instead of just once.
    You could vary the email pitch and try different appeals/headers and maybe even offer a special bonus on one of them.....I'll bet that would bring the numbers up - no matter what they are. It might pay to ask him.
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      Originally Posted by brucerby View Post

      Daniel I think thats awesome news!....good success to you.

      I kind of thought like Andrew when I saw the conversion % you were anticipating. I also think it may be much closer to one tenth of one percent or less..... Even that is still TERRIFIC for such a short time.

      BUT, that could be improved if your friend/contact will let you send 3 times instead of just once.
      You could vary the email pitch and try different appeals/headers and maybe even offer a special bonus on one of them.....I'll bet that would bring the numbers up - no matter what they are. It might pay to ask him.
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      Bruce

      Yes definitely, I have to go over this with him because I don't really know how much they blast their lists and such (If they are not 'spammy' it could be a very high conversion).

      I want to see how the first broadcast does too before I even suggest another one, because if it converts well maybe 1 is all I need.
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    Be sure to let us know how the dates go.

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  • Profile picture of the author Doug McIsaac
    Congrats on the JV. That's an amazing list.

    There are tons of business opportunities out there if we just get away from our computers.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dave777
    Daniel,

    Congratulations on an awesome internet marketing opportunity! Please let us know when you start offering those internet marketing and dating seminar vacations in Mexico. Could be a great little online/offline niche to get into...
    Bet a few warriors are on their way...

    Amazing what can happen when you go back to school, even for a visit. Keep in mind that Ken Evoy's sitesell.com has created a niche marketplace for themselves in universities, link below...

    And if you think about it a little, Smart internet marketers could easily duplicate a variety of related ideas in multiple colleges and universities through joint ventures, cross promotions and using other innovative and creative methods.

    Why Do Universities Choose
    Only SBI!?

    Universities Offer Only SBI!

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      Great Job Daniel. There are a lot of offline opportunities that some internet marketers ignore. Giving small workshops and presentations is a great idea.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
      Originally Posted by Dave777 View Post

      Daniel,

      Congratulations on an awesome internet marketing opportunity! Please let us know when you start offering those internet marketing and dating seminar vacations in Mexico. Could be a great little online/offline niche to get into...
      Bet a few warriors are on their way...

      Amazing what can happen when you go back to school, even for a visit. Keep in mind that Ken Evoy's sitesell.com has created a niche marketplace for themselves in universities, link below...

      And if you think about it a little, Smart internet marketers could easily duplicate a variety of related ideas in multiple colleges and universities through joint ventures, cross promotions and using other innovative and creative methods.

      Why Do Universities Choose
      Only SBI!?

      Universities Offer Only SBI!

      Dave
      Ken Evoy did a very smart move there.

      Think about it guys, if you manage to get a product as suggeted (or even required) reading for certain universities, then you just got yourself a lifetime steady passive residual income (and traffic).

      Not to mention an increased perceived value of your product.

      By the way, I just just got offered doing a conference in that same university by the teacher who was in the class I did the presentation to, in front of the whole Internation Business Administration student body (roughly 850 students).
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  • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
    Daniel,

    Boy! What have you been eating?! Can I have some of that too.. :-)

    Nice to hear you've been having a good time, plus the girls too.

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  • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
    Hi daniel

    Since you updated, got curious, how did the date with the girls went through?

    ~RapidScc :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Duff
    PS: While at it, I also landed a couple of dates with some VERY good looking college students
    Never turn down a good opportunity! Well done mate!

    I think Andrew is right, offline mailings usually convert at an average of about 0.5% (from what i hear) but you never know you may do better.

    Hope it goes well

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    Well done, Daniel! Congratulations! This may be just the start of a nice consulting business. As word of mouth spreads further, you might find yourself getting some excellent consulting fees, too! And we're not just talking about that town, either. You said this field is International Business. These people have connections all over the world.

    Excellent for you!

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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
      Originally Posted by ibringjoy View Post

      Well done, Daniel! Congratulations! This may be just the start of a nice consulting business. As word of mouth spreads further, you might find yourself getting some excellent consulting fees, too! And we're not just talking about that town, either. You said this field is International Business. These people have connections all over the world.

      Excellent for you!

      Kathryn
      Kathryn, I believe you are right. But I didn't see this when I was offered to do a simple class presentation and now it is opening all these doors.

      This is a perfect example that you have to learn how to think outside the box and don't pass on even small opportunities.

      Even if a friend tells you "Man, please explain IM to my rabbit." you never know what that could lead too LOL
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    • Profile picture of the author faranak
      hi
      just to say thank you for your reply the other day and as some one who believes in karma i would say this is all happened possibly because of what you are doing to help michael tracey after all your offer seems very generous
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        Originally Posted by faranak View Post

        hi
        just to say thank you for your reply the other day and as some one who believes in karma i would say this is all happened possibly because of what you are doing to help michael tracey after all your offer seems very generous
        Thank you faranak, I believe in karmic retribution as well.

        But this JV happened about 1 month ago and I'm just updating (per request of the people who replied to the thread before).
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
    I've updated the main post. Change of plans. But how can I use this to my advantage legally?
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    • Profile picture of the author bobsstuff
      Congratulations Daniel,
      A fantastic opportunity, but more than that is has you thinking of how you can turn this into a business model.
      That is one deal and your mind is whirring around the possibilities and how you can continue this success offline. How great is that? PLUS you have inspired some here to look more closely at offline opportunities.
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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
        Originally Posted by bobsstuff View Post

        Congratulations Daniel,
        A fantastic opportunity, but more than that is has you thinking of how you can turn this into a business model.
        That is one deal and your mind is whirring around the possibilities and how you can continue this success offline. How great is that? PLUS you have inspired some here to look more closely at offline opportunities.
        Thanks Bob, but do you have any advice regarding what to do with the database I was given? I don't want to get into trouble for "spamming" e-mails that didn't opt in.
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
    Originally Posted by Daniel Molano View Post


    The guy gave me the company database, 450,000 e-mails (Wasn't 750,000, but still a great number). He said he couldn't do the broadcast himself but that I could have the database to play with it.

    Guys, I need advice here, how can I use a DB that large effectively AND legally?

    */Update*

    I hate to say this but this sounds highly suspicious. Not from you but from the other side.

    Heck its pretty easy to get hands on a list of 450,000 e-mail addresses but would most likely cost you a fortune in legal fees and blacklisted in every which way possbile.

    Too bad really...

    I was looking forward to see the results the completely legitmate way with your story.

    Best of luck and do keep us updated.

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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
      Originally Posted by Frank Bruno View Post

      I hate to say this but this sounds highly suspicious. Not from you but from the other side.

      Heck its pretty easy to get hands on a list of 450,000 e-mail addresses but would most likely cost you a fortune in legal fees and blacklisted in every which way possbile.

      Too bad really...

      I was looking forward to see the results the completely legitmate way with your story.

      Best of luck and do keep us updated.

      Frank Bruno
      That is exactly what I was thinking Frank. I don't find it suspicious really, it's just that he wasn't authorized to use the database (obviously) so he'd rather keep his job.

      Is there a way around that I could use this DB without it being considered "spam"?
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave777
    I'm just wondering how he can possible do that? :confused: I'm assuming he's an employee, or even a consultant on contract for that company. Unless he has some type of hidden agenda, good or bad, I'd be asking a few questions with him and the company itself. Much better to be safe now than sorry later...

    Sharing the company database, 450,000 e-mails or whatever the number definitely needs some proper clarification. Make sure you get some type of agreement in writing, whatever you come up with to ensure you protect yourself legally just in case. No matter the business dealings one gets themselves into, homework and research on legalities, taxes etc. is a must!

    Hopefully there's still a way to turn this into some type of joint venture/revenue generator with some creative negotiating and brainstorming! Even if you just got permission to say hello to 450,000 people just once... I've got a really nice free gift and surprise for you if we can just continue this relationship type of email... A small percentage of here's permission and my email address would be worth it's weight in gold...

    Let us know however things go...

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  • Profile picture of the author Sean Hoffman
    You could make money off of the DB by selling it or spamming it both illegal. On another note posting that you are now in possession of it on a public board is not the smartest thing to do.
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      Originally Posted by SEOSuperGuide View Post

      You could make money off of the DB by selling it or spamming it both illegal. On another note posting that you are now in possession of it on a public board is not the smartest thing to do.
      I'm looking for ways to use it legally, if I can't, I won't. And the company name hasn't been mentioned so nothing is wrong there neither.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Turner
    Hate to be contrary but.....
    I would echo Andrew Cavanagh - the list you have is no more valuable than a co-reg list - untargeted and hiding a cruel possibility of getting you labelled a spammer - emails blocked- domains shut down mmmm tread carefully

    on the brighter side - you have discovered a talent - not many people present well , are able to handle and enthuse a large audience and get a message across - that's were the gold is here - now - did you have a business card to give to all attendees - with your web address on it - leading to an opt in form? mmm - yes the humble business card - still one of the most powerful marketing tools available (google vistaprint.com - 250 for the price of postage) The possible JV's you could do with people impressed with your abilities will make far more - for much longer than the largest untargeted list
    Good luck in the future - and don't forget those biz cards - chuckle
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
      Originally Posted by Danny Turner View Post

      Hate to be contrary but.....
      I would echo Andrew Cavanagh - the list you have is no more valuable than a co-reg list - untargeted and hiding a cruel possibility of getting you labelled a spammer - emails blocked- domains shut down mmmm tread carefully

      on the brighter side - you have discovered a talent - not many people present well , are able to handle and enthuse a large audience and get a message across - that's were the gold is here - now - did you have a business card to give to all attendees - with your web address on it - leading to an opt in form? mmm - yes the humble business card - still one of the most powerful marketing tools available (google vistaprint.com - 250 for the price of postage) The possible JV's you could do with people impressed with your abilities will make far more - for much longer than the largest untargeted list
      Good luck in the future - and don't forget those biz cards - chuckle
      Danny
      Thanks for the tip Danny, I just ordered 1,000 business cards.

      I never thought of it that way, but coming to think of it that is the real golden nugget behind all this. I have 4 offline presentations scheduled next week and I hope the cards get here fast!
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