I am about to give up affiliate marketing

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Hi

I am so tired and frustrated at this moment.
Last year i got hooked on doing affiliate marketing and it is my full time job as a stay-home-mom.

But after working hard since Jun last year and still not making any money from my 5 websites i am thinking of closing the door to Internet Marketing.

I am doing everything i have learned about Marketing but nothing works and i can`t get more that 100 visitors per day.

Is there anyone in here who is experiencing the same or someone who can give me some advice?

I was hoping to earn some good money for my son and me but the dream is slowly fading away.

Annette.
#affiliate #give #marketing
  • Profile picture of the author petelta
    In 5 months you have 5 websites that all aren't making money. You're spreading yourself too thin. From your sig, it looks like you are in teh IM niche too. That is a very hard niche to get rolling in.

    I am no expert by any means, but I would suggest getting 1 website making money then automate that websites work. Then move on to the second website.

    You can't lose hope. If you do, you're sure to fail.

    But on the otherhand, if you give up, that's one less person I have to compete with =)....that's just a joke. I don't want you to give up.
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    • Profile picture of the author 101millionAds
      I agree.

      I have too many websites to work on and that`s exhausting in itself.

      Maby i will try to flip some of my sites at flippa.It`s just that i did not think i could sell them unless i had some income proof to show.

      My best website is easycash4life.com

      It ranks high for a lot of keywords and is ranked 493.000 at Alexa.
      That is something to work further on.

      My weight loss niche is Easy Ways To Lose Weight Fast - Quick And Easy Ways To Lose Weight - Free Easy Ways To Lose Weight.

      The site is slowly climbing but i am not very interested in the weight loss niche so the site is just a pain in the a...

      I will check out Flippa and see if i can sell it unless there are someone interested here at this forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    Hi Annette,

    As petelta inferred, it's hard to teach others how to make money if you don't know how to do it yourself. If your dream is fading and you don't think IM works... how can you persuade anyone to buy the products you're selling?

    So, as mentioned before, you may want to consider setting up a website in a different niche. Get your feet wet and learn how to make money before you start teaching others.

    (BTW, just as an idea -- if those sites are getting traffic, you can make a few quick dollars on them by selling the sites on Flippa. Then you can reinvest that money back into your business.)

    Secondly...

    In order for us to truly help you, we need to know exactly what you're doing. That is, you need to explain your business model: how you're driving traffic, whether you're building a list, how your monetizing the traffic, etc.

    Cheers,
    Becky
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    • Profile picture of the author 101millionAds
      Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

      Hi Annette,

      As petelta inferred, it's hard to teach others how to make money if you don't know how to do it yourself. If your dream is fading and you don't think IM works... how can you persuade anyone to buy the products you're selling?

      So, as mentioned before, you may want to consider setting up a website in a different niche. Get your feet wet and learn how to make money before you start teaching others.

      (BTW, just as an idea -- if those sites are getting traffic, you can make a few quick dollars on them by selling the sites on Flippa. Then you can reinvest that money back into your business.)

      Secondly...

      In order for us to truly help you, we need to know exactly what you're doing. That is, you need to explain your business model: how you're driving traffic, whether you're building a list, how your monetizing the traffic, etc.

      Cheers,
      Becky
      R Hagel

      Every dog has it`s day

      Have you ever lost your patience and you think that the work is to much to handle.

      Being tired and exhausted has nothing to do with not beliving in Affiliate Marketing.

      I wrote this post today because i really need people to back me up and help me to not give up.

      If my websites where no good i would not put them for sale.

      Annette
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    I agree - the make money online niche is really a hard one to crack. You'd probably do better if you focused on another niche - maybe something you have an interest in and put your full effort into that until you got it making money.

    The thing is that in the MMO niche you are competing against people that know a lot about keyword research and marketing their sites. Probably most of them have a lot more money and resources than you do to get their sites to the top of the serps. Plus, like everyone else said, if you aren't making money yourself, how can you sell MMO to anyone else.

    I've been at this quite a while myself but I'm going to let you in on one of the big mistakes that I have made (and actually still make) and that is not promoting my sites enough. I don't know what you're doing to promote yours but if you are doing article marketing you really need a boatload of articles out there. I don't know if that's why you aren't getting more traffic but that was one of my problems.

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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    The site is slowly climbing but i am not very interested in the weight loss niche so the site is just a pain in the a...
    LOL!

    You can sell them on Flippa - probably not for a lot, a couple hundred bucks. The design is nice and since you are getting traffic, that's a good bonus.

    Or you could list them right here in the websites for sale section. That would actually cost you less because you could list them all in one listing for $20 whereas flippa is $19 for each site plus a 5% success fee.

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  • Profile picture of the author youngmillionaire
    hello friend,
    affiliate marketing is a very lucrative business which is easy to start, for you to start making money you need to get somethings right, get it wrong you are out, you should not be targeting an highly competitive market like Make Money NIche, there are some niches that are low competitive and profitable, try to research a market before promoting the product, it may be that the product you are promoting has been promoted to people, i mean not in vogue or trend. i hope this help a little.
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    • Profile picture of the author 101millionAds
      Originally Posted by youngmillionaire View Post

      hello friend,
      affiliate marketing is a very lucrative business which is easy to start, for you to start making money you need to get somethings right, get it wrong you are out, you should not be targeting an highly competitive market like Make Money NIche, there are some niches that are low competitive and profitable, try to research a market before promoting the product, it may be that the product you are promoting has been promoted to people, i mean not in vogue or trend. i hope this help a little.

      Thanks.

      I am just wondering....Right now i rank as 27 on Google for "Make Money Online" 14 for Make Money Fast , 4 for Easy Cash and 7 for Make Fast Cash Online.

      Will it take forever to get to page 1 for "Make Money Online

      That have been my main goal for a while and i wonder if i am totally LOST?
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      • Profile picture of the author Lee Wilson
        Originally Posted by 101millionAds View Post

        Thanks.

        I am just wondering....Right now i rank as 27 on Google for "Make Money Online" 14 for Make Money Fast , 4 for Easy Cash and 7 for Make Fast Cash Online.

        Will it take forever to get to page 1 for "Make Money Online

        That have been my main goal for a while and i wonder if i am totally LOST?
        Annette.

        You're chasing the wrong goal at the moment. Do you check your stats? What's your bounce rate? Even if you get to page one for those terms you probably still won't do very well. For those keywords you are ranking, you need to presume that the visitor knows nothing about how to make money online.

        Think about this for a moment, you want to learn how to play guitar so you type in "learn guitar for beginners" and the first site you come to has the first half of the screen taken up by the header, instantly followed by ads. You may or may not click on the ad, you might instantly hit the back button because you are already bored, but lets just presume you decide to scroll down ... the first and only thing you see is a list of articles that only mean anything to you if you already know how to play guitar. "click here for ten ways to solo over diminished chords" - "Spice up your blues with dom13th arpeggios" etc etc..

        What are you going to do, carry on reading or hit the back button?

        This is the equivalent of your money site. Put yourself in the shoes of somebody who wants to know how to make money online, what's going to make them want to stay on your site and look around. If I was going after the term "make money online" I would want the visitor to think he's found the best site to learn from scratch, I will presume they aren't even familiar with the term affiliate marketing and I would want to try and get that message relayed in just a few seconds tops. That's what you need to do above the fold, not throw a full screen header logo and bunch of ads at me. Make me want to scroll down and when I do, make sure I see something that I might think is going to show me how to make money online, not a list of things I can do once I already know!
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        • Profile picture of the author 101millionAds
          Originally Posted by L Wilson View Post

          Annette.

          You're chasing the wrong goal at the moment. Do you check your stats? What's your bounce rate? Even if you get to page one for those terms you probably still won't do very well. For those keywords you are ranking, you need to presume that the visitor knows nothing about how to make money online.

          Think about this for a moment, you want to learn how to play guitar so you type in "learn guitar for beginners" and the first site you come to has the first half of the screen taken up by the header, instantly followed by ads. You may or may not click on the ad, you might instantly hit the back button because you are already bored, but lets just presume you decide to scroll down ... the first and only thing you see is a list of articles that only mean anything to you if you already know how to play guitar. "click here for ten ways to solo over diminished chords" - "Spice up your blues with dom13th arpeggios" etc etc..

          What are you going to do, carry on reading or hit the back button?

          This is the equivalent of your money site. Put yourself in the shoes of somebody who wants to know how to make money online, what's going to make them want to stay on your site and look around. If I was going after the term "make money online" I would want the visitor to think he's found the best site to learn from scratch, I will presume they aren't even familiar with the term affiliate marketing and I would want to try and get that message relayed in just a few seconds tops. That's what you need to do above the fold, not throw a full screen header logo and bunch of ads at me. Make me want to scroll down and when I do, make sure I see something that I might think is going to show me how to make money online, not a list of things I can do once I already know!

          Thank you.

          You are absolutely right.Everyone who visit my site get confused and leave.

          Therefor i came up with a new idea

          I have redirected my websites to a single affiliate product that says "how to make money without being a computer expert and so on...

          The best part is that i made a sale the same day i did this.
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          • Profile picture of the author Lee Wilson
            Originally Posted by 101millionAds View Post

            Thank you.

            You are absolutely right.Everyone who visit my site get confused and leave.

            Therefor i came up with a new idea

            I have redirected my websites to a single affiliate product that says "how to make money without being a computer expert and so on...

            The best part is that i made a sale the same day i did this.
            Don't do that, you might end up losing all your keywords that drive them there in the first place.

            Put your site back and think about what people see the instant they land there. Change some things and think of an enticing headline that makes them think they've landed at the right place to learn, lead them in gently and then send them to your affiliate link.
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  • Profile picture of the author petelta
    Another tip that has helped my motivation with internet marketing has been selling a service on the side.

    Like I said before, I don't have much experience to help your business but I do have over a year experience of keeping at it lol. So I know how to keep myself pushing forward.

    Lately I have been taking an hour a day to do article writing and submitting for clients and have also been putting together small WSO PLRs that I will be posting shortly. This has helped me stay focused because it's making me money now. Even though it's only a small amount of money, it's positive cash flow. Balancing my immediate money and my long term money (remember your current websites are long term investments) has kept me motivated.

    Seeing is believing.
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    • Profile picture of the author KenJ
      Hi Annette

      You sites look very good. Like others You have spread yourself too thin.
      Also the niches are too wide. But it could be that affiliate marketing is not the right area of IM for you.

      I am not very good at affiliate selling - I do not know why. But I am good in other areas so I concentrate on these

      Kenj
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      • Profile picture of the author 101millionAds
        Originally Posted by kenj View Post

        Hi Annette

        You sites look very good. Like others You have spread yourself too thin.
        Also the niches are too wide. But it could be that affiliate marketing is not the right area of IM for you.

        I am not very good at affiliate selling - I do not know why. But I am good in other areas so I concentrate on these

        Kenj
        Oh i is.

        I feel like a born advertiser without profit
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Judging by two of the links in your sig, you fell for the exact same thing that many newbies fall for and that is ... choosing Make Money Online as a niche. It is highly competitive and very hard to break into.

    There are so many niches that are much lower competition, easier to dominate, easier to get top listings in Google, easier to make money.

    You need to do some keyword research and dig for those niches. Even in competitive niches, with good keyword research, you can find some low competition keywords to target for article marketing, blog posts, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author reapr
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Judging by two of the links in your sig, you fell for the exact same thing that many newbies fall for and that is ... choosing Make Money Online as a niche. It is highly competitive and very hard to break into.

      There are so many niches that are much lower competition, easier to dominate, easier to get top listings in Google, easier to make money.

      You need to do some keyword research and dig for those niches. Even in competitive niches, with good keyword research, you can find some low competition keywords to target for article marketing, blog posts, etc.
      You are dead on here ... the make money online niche is a killer. Yes there is still some gold in this niche if you know how to chase down the vein in the quartz and find related keywords ... but there are easier ways to be a masochist.

      I have been working this for 11 years. If I was not familiar with it I would not even start out in it. The only reason why I stay in the game is because a little competition never hurt anyone but it is very very tough to stay in this niche.

      I could think of easier niches ... ****, credit cards, posters, mortgages, credit reports .... a few that have paid some bills.
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    Originally Posted by 101millionAds View Post


    I was hoping to earn some good money for my son and me but the dream is slowly fading away.

    Annette.
    not personal, but i swear i could make a motsa somehow from this type of thing, I think we need a school of hard knocks where we dish up some spoonfuls of concrete for breakfast.

    the school of no more crap, lets get tough, so welcome to hard school, first people get all powdery and lovely dovey, o don't do that well not here lets start by what you wrote

    but the dream is slowly fading away, = what rubbish the dream is not going anywhere it is still there, whats fading away is your desire and passion.

    why you wish for it but you don't want it bad enough, i say how bad do you want it ?

    I cant hear you , how bad do you want it ? oh there you go, now as the people have said above and even you have said the health can go i was not untested in it anyway ?

    and you have 5 things dancing and not working, some smart cookies above have said work with one and find a passion to start with, then this is what you do.

    you soak up as much information as you can and you do not quit and you work on that puppy until it starts to work.

    you drag that site kicking and screaming if you have to and you make sure you tell that site that there is only one option and that is success.

    you then also once it works will see a cloud lift and the sky's clear and then you will live that dream your chasing.

    as mentioned the dream is not giving up you are, so that needs to be reversed.

    this is best stated in a old quote by Michelle phifer "we all must live for our dream otherwise life is a slow process of dying"

    start living, start building that profitabe site and show yourself and your son what people can do when they turn it on.
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  • Profile picture of the author JonMills
    Annette. Put those sites on the burner for now

    Get back to real products and services, ones that you use, ones that other people use and ones that are consumable and are used on a day to day basis.

    Shareasale.com
    cj.com

    You can do it, as you have shown the gumption to get up and build some sites. I just feel you have entered a market which is not really a good market to go into.

    When I first got started I built 1 affiliate website and I focused on it for a year, just adding to it daily, working on traffic sources and learning more about the products. This was definately key in seeing it go from a part time income to a full time one.

    Affiliate marketing does pay. It's usually the approach to it that prevents people from doing well in it.
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    • Profile picture of the author 101millionAds
      Originally Posted by JonMills View Post

      Annette. Put those sites on the burner for now

      Get back to real products and services, ones that you use, ones that other people use and ones that are consumable and are used on a day to day basis.

      Shareasale.com
      cj.com

      You can do it, as you have shown the gumption to get up and build some sites. I just feel you have entered a market which is not really a good market to go into.

      When I first got started I built 1 affiliate website and I focused on it for a year, just adding to it daily, working on traffic sources and learning more about the products. This was definately key in seeing it go from a part time income to a full time one.

      Affiliate marketing does pay. It's usually the approach to it that prevents people from doing well in it.

      Hi Jon Mills.

      I just can`t help it,but i LOVE the make money niche-probably because i LOVE money and i really want to earn money.

      I just haven`t figured out how.
      (Besides having a day job witch i am unable to manage at this moment)

      My SEO skills have raised a lot lately by reading the posts at the War Room so i just can`t see myself leaving the Make money niche for good.

      My interest and passion lies within the money niche
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  • Profile picture of the author dualdtmz
    Maybe try and promote physical products from amazon or ebay. Some people do good at physical products and some do good at money making niche or info products. All you can do is try. Keep trying to you find anything that makes you a lil $ then run with it fast and as hard as you possibly can.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Rosa
    Okay you are confusing me with your main site...

    There are a billion links to a million DIFFERENT products and half of them I personally don't know anything about. (never heard of them)

    On another hand you have adsense there... What is your goal of the site? to get them to opt in? buy a clickbank or other product? or just leave?

    If you want to make a blog site like that you can have a whole bunch of stuff IF YOUR CONTENT IS TOP QUALITY...

    You've got to make them believe you know what you are talking about.

    Many people say, "if you aren't making any money online then how can you sell to them" The same exact way a 275 pound, 5'6 man can sell hundreds of thousands of weight loss product.

    You've got to be believable, know what you are saying, and relate to them..

    Newbie marketers know one thing and that is that they want to make money online. If you know how to make a wordpress site, post it up and put content on it, then you are that much ahead of him..

    You can simply make videos showing the new marketer how to get closer to his goal and he will thank you. Give him/her some progress and he will think you are an authority.

    In every niche, if you offer value. Much higher value than perceived then you will succeed. But you've got to buckle down and do it.

    In 5 months I'm sure you know a little more than those just entering. I've only been doing this for a year.. No i'm not making millions or even hundreds of thousands.. But I know the game and this year will be amazing for me...

    Keywords is the game. If you can find good keywords of people who are new and want to make money at home.. Look at the other possibilities as well.

    Like the "apply online at ..." there are tons of keywords like that.. people who are looking for jobs at mcdonalds and best buy.. I'm sure the thought of working from home is better than slaving over a deep fryer...

    Yes there are tons of people in the market but think outside the box and don't spread yourself out like that. Don't give up believe me I didn't see any kind of income until 6 months after I started... Yes some people make money in the first month because THEY ARE HUNGRY...

    Personally i wasn't and I am now understanding that.. My back wasn't against the wall, but now it is and this is the time to really get off our asses. Make that happen for yourself.. Use the 80 20 rule = 80% of the results comes from 20% of the work..

    Ask yourself better questions like what can I do to make 2000 extra a month? and then break it down.

    How can customers really want to buy my product? and then break it down..

    Don't beat yourself up or ask yourself doubtful questions like... what if they don't buy? or why is my product not selling? ask what can I do to make my product sell MORE?

    You get my drift...

    offer great content and no matter what people will know...

    Ok i'm done ranting take care and live with passion!

    David R.
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    • Profile picture of the author 101millionAds
      Originally Posted by davidrosa9 View Post

      Okay you are confusing me with your main site...

      There are a billion links to a million DIFFERENT products and half of them I personally don't know anything about. (never heard of them)

      On another hand you have adsense there... What is your goal of the site? to get them to opt in? buy a clickbank or other product? or just leave?

      If you want to make a blog site like that you can have a whole bunch of stuff IF YOUR CONTENT IS TOP QUALITY...

      You've got to make them believe you know what you are talking about.

      Many people say, "if you aren't making any money online then how can you sell to them" The same exact way a 275 pound, 5'6 man can sell hundreds of thousands of weight loss product.

      You've got to be believable, know what you are saying, and relate to them..

      Newbie marketers know one thing and that is that they want to make money online. If you know how to make a wordpress site, post it up and put content on it, then you are that much ahead of him..

      You can simply make videos showing the new marketer how to get closer to his goal and he will thank you. Give him/her some progress and he will think you are an authority.

      In every niche, if you offer value. Much higher value than perceived then you will succeed. But you've got to buckle down and do it.

      In 5 months I'm sure you know a little more than those just entering. I've only been doing this for a year.. No i'm not making millions or even hundreds of thousands.. But I know the game and this year will be amazing for me...

      Keywords is the game. If you can find good keywords of people who are new and want to make money at home.. Look at the other possibilities as well.

      Like the "apply online at ..." there are tons of keywords like that.. people who are looking for jobs at mcdonalds and best buy.. I'm sure the thought of working from home is better than slaving over a deep fryer...

      Yes there are tons of people in the market but think outside the box and don't spread yourself out like that. Don't give up believe me I didn't see any kind of income until 6 months after I started... Yes some people make money in the first month because THEY ARE HUNGRY...

      Personally i wasn't and I am now understanding that.. My back wasn't against the wall, but now it is and this is the time to really get off our asses. Make that happen for yourself.. Use the 80 20 rule = 80% of the results comes from 20% of the work..

      Ask yourself better questions like what can I do to make 2000 extra a month? and then break it down.

      How can customers really want to buy my product? and then break it down..

      Don't beat yourself up or ask yourself doubtful questions like... what if they don't buy? or why is my product not selling? ask what can I do to make my product sell MORE?

      You get my drift...

      offer great content and no matter what people will know...

      Ok i'm done ranting take care and live with passion!

      David R.
      Hi David R.

      My www.easycash4life.com has been receiving articles from FreeTrafficsystem.com and some of the articles contains products that are pretty foreign.

      Unfortunatly
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  • Profile picture of the author breadtoaster
    Your site (easylife) looks good to me! Don't give up! Just keep going! There is always a glimpse of light at the end of the tunnel!

    Cheers,
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  • Profile picture of the author octobergal
    Don't give up, that's the only guaranteed way of not succeeding. You've been given some great advice, take it, apply it and run with it. You can do this! Use your son as motivation. What would you say to your son if he came to you and said it's been 5 mos and I want to give up, it's not working? You would probably tell him that you need to figure out why it's not working because plenty of people are successful doing what you want to do, what makes them any different. They started from scratch, too. Wising you the best!
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  • Hey Annette,

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    • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
      Affiliate marketing comes down to 4 basic things:

      1. Picking a product that is in demand and is selling
      2. Systematically uncovering the top (meaning highest converting) keywords for that niche and product
      3. Generating traffic around those highly targeted keywords
      4. Creating a landing page that converts - in the land of affiliate marketing that means your landing page either 1) Pre-sells and redirects to the actual sales page or 2) Captures the contact information of your prospect which then requires a strong follow-up system

      If you are getting decent traffic then you have partially accomplished #2, but #1,3 and 4 are worth checking.

      The other trick is to quickly test sites and landing page copy until you get a hit - that may indeed take a few tries (sometimes 2-3, sometimes 5), but what you have to do is test within a few days, if no response, then you either change landing pages or change products.

      Jeff
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      • Profile picture of the author 101millionAds
        Originally Posted by jbsmith View Post

        Affiliate marketing comes down to 4 basic things:

        1. Picking a product that is in demand and is selling
        2. Systematically uncovering the top (meaning highest converting) keywords for that niche and product
        3. Generating traffic around those highly targeted keywords
        4. Creating a landing page that converts - in the land of affiliate marketing that means your landing page either 1) Pre-sells and redirects to the actual sales page or 2) Captures the contact information of your prospect which then requires a strong follow-up system

        If you are getting decent traffic then you have partially accomplished #2, but #1,3 and 4 are worth checking.

        The other trick is to quickly test sites and landing page copy until you get a hit - that may indeed take a few tries (sometimes 2-3, sometimes 5), but what you have to do is test within a few days, if no response, then you either change landing pages or change products.

        Jeff
        Thanks Jbsmith.

        Good point to focus on one product and not 20.
        That is one of my mistakes to promote a bunch of products all at the same time.
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  • Profile picture of the author rlharding
    I don't have much experience and have made all of $1.19 in the last 6 months.....BUT....just based on the potential to make money I would say don't quit. There is lots of very useful information here and lots of people willing to jump in and point you/us in the right direction. From what I have learned your sites will come to no harm if you leave them for a while while you re-group.

    Follow what you feel is the best advice the experience folks can give you and keep the faith....and your dream.
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    • Profile picture of the author 101millionAds
      Originally Posted by rlharding View Post

      I don't have much experience and have made all of $1.19 in the last 6 months.....BUT....just based on the potential to make money I would say don't quit. There is lots of very useful information here and lots of people willing to jump in and point you/us in the right direction. From what I have learned your sites will come to no harm if you leave them for a while while you re-group.

      Follow what you feel is the best advice the experience folks can give you and keep the faith....and your dream.

      Hi rlharding.

      You have a good point there to re-group.
      I have probably worked myself sick sitting in front of the computer 9 hours per day since March 2009.
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    I forgot to mention the WAR Room. I was fortunate to have someone sponsor my membership and I joined on Sunday. The information in there is ........(fill in your favourite word that means amazing). I believe that if you have the $37 and can join it will make a huge difference to your future.
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      Originally Posted by rlharding View Post

      I forgot to mention the WAR Room. I was fortunate to have someone sponsor my membership and I joined on Sunday. The information in there is ........(fill in your favourite word that means amazing). I believe that if you have the $37 and can join it will make a huge difference to your future.

      I am in.
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  • Profile picture of the author digigo
    how much does it cost to have 100 visitors to your site? have you tried ppc or banner advertising? i know they will not bring you much but at least there is something to keep you in the black... maybe your website is at an inflection point and it is about to take off!!!

    as far as the niche you are in, it is not too bad.. all niches are crowded... it is not like you can find a niche that you are the lone provider...
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    • Profile picture of the author 101millionAds
      Originally Posted by digigo View Post

      how much does it cost to have 100 visitors to your site? have you tried ppc or banner advertising? i know they will not bring you much but at least there is something to keep you in the black... maybe your website is at an inflection point and it is about to take off!!!

      as far as the niche you are in, it is not too bad.. all niches are crowded... it is not like you can find a niche that you are the lone provider...

      Hi digigo.

      I sincerely hope you are right about my site at an inflection point and ready to take off.

      I deserve it after all the work i have put into my sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author richman777
    Hi Annette,

    There is a popular saying, "The more failures you have, the more success you will get."

    If you feel you are about to quit, do not quit. Because that is a great sign that you will get success.

    I have an inspiring article that I would like to share with you to read so that you will be inspired and be encouraged. Just PM me if you want it.

    Cheers!

    James (^_^)
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  • Profile picture of the author remotedb
    It's always disheartening to see someone get discouraged like this. I'm pretty new to affiliate marketing, but I am actually quite pleased with my results so far. I've tried a few different systems and have developed a method that works fairly well for me. After having read all those Ebooks and putting their teachings to work somewhat successfully I am seeing you make at least 2 classic mistakes.

    1) Putting too many eggs in too few baskets
    I suppose there are many strategies, but most of the ones I've read say pretty much the same thing, that is: It's a lot easier to make a little money with each of a lot of different sites, than it is to do it with just one or just a small handful. You are getting 100 hits a day on your sites. To me that's excellent! My best only gets about 25 on a good day, but I make about $50 a month on that one site. Now I'm replicating that and scaling it out, hopefully to about 200 sites. My sites are simple and require very little maintenance, essentially set it and forget it (after the first couple of months) so it should not be a maintenance headache even when I have the full compliment running. Oh it will be a full time job for sure, but ya gotta do something with your time right?

    2)Going after the wrong niches.
    You are going after extremely highly competitive niches. That means an enormous amount of work to get on top and stay there, to what purpose I would ask? You can do a fraction of the work to maintain 50 sites all of which will rank in or near the top 10 easily and earn far more from the combined total than you would from one in the niche you are working in.

    Just my two cents.
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    • Profile picture of the author 101millionAds
      Originally Posted by remotedb View Post

      It's always disheartening to see someone get discouraged like this. I'm pretty new to affiliate marketing, but I am actually quite pleased with my results so far. I've tried a few different systems and have developed a method that works fairly well for me. After having read all those Ebooks and putting their teachings to work somewhat successfully I am seeing you make at least 2 classic mistakes.

      1) Putting too many eggs in too few baskets
      I suppose there are many strategies, but most of the ones I've read say pretty much the same thing, that is: It's a lot easier to make a little money with each of a lot of different sites, than it is to do it with just one or just a small handful. You are getting 100 hits a day on your sites. To me that's excellent! My best only gets about 25 on a good day, but I make about $50 a month on that one site. Now I'm replicating that and scaling it out, hopefully to about 200 sites. My sites are simple and require very little maintenance, essentially set it and forget it (after the first couple of months) so it should not be a maintenance headache even when I have the full compliment running. Oh it will be a full time job for sure, but ya gotta do something with your time right?

      2)Going after the wrong niches.
      You are going after extremely highly competitive niches. That means an enormous amount of work to get on top and stay there, to what purpose I would ask? You can do a fraction of the work to maintain 50 sites all of which will rank in or near the top 10 easily and earn far more from the combined total than you would from one in the niche you are working in.

      Just my two cents.

      Interesting

      I have always set my goals to high my whole life and now it comes again
      with choosing the most competitive niches in Marketing.

      I looks like i never learn from my mistakes

      Please tell me more about your websites and what niches you are in.

      What do you do since your sites are a set and forget the cupple of two months?
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      • Profile picture of the author remotedb
        Originally Posted by 101millionAds View Post

        Interesting

        I have always set my goals to high my whole life and now it comes again
        with choosing the most competitive niches in Marketing.

        I looks like i never learn from my mistakes

        Please tell me more about your websites and what niches you are in.

        What do you do since your sites are a set and forget the cupple of two months?
        Well, I focus a lot on on page SEO. That alone usually get's me within spitting distance of the front page. Then I build a few links, I use Jonathan Ledgers 1WayLinks primarily. Some people here don't like that system, but it works for me, that's all I can say. Between the two, I don't really need to do much else because the combination of on page SEO and backlinks is enough to keep and maintain position in the small niches that I work in. The only thing I have to really do is some additional backlinking about once a month because they do gradually drop off. That's pretty much it.

        As far as what kind of sites, I'm doing mostly physical producst on Amazon. Yes the commission is pretty low, but I do get sales and I do get commissions and since I don't have to do much maintenance it's easy to scale. The rest is just math. If I have a $50 product and I make a modest 2 sales a week for a well ranked page, I make six or seven dollars plus maybe a dollar in adsense. Say average $7.50 a week. Multiplied by 100 sites and I should be making $3K a month. It's just math at that point. Now granted, not every site ranks well, and not every product converts well. It's no big deal, I just drop the ones that don't work and keep going. I only invest $15-20 and a couple hours of work in each of them so it's not exactly the loss of a kings ransom.
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      • Profile picture of the author remotedb
        Originally Posted by 101millionAds View Post

        Interesting

        I have always set my goals to high my whole life and now it comes again
        with choosing the most competitive niches in Marketing.

        I looks like i never learn from my mistakes

        Please tell me more about your websites and what niches you are in.

        What do you do since your sites are a set and forget the cupple of two months?
        One more thing I forgot to mention, the most important thing of all. I research my niches well. I look for modest but significant volume (about 3000 exact match searches) per month and I look for very low competition (under 30,000 competing pages on a quoted query on google).

        I also try to evaluate the relative strength of the first 20 or so competitors. You need keyword tools to do that effectively. There are some good ones out there, Micro Niche Finder, Market Samurai, Keyword Elite 2, but they can be pricey. Probably worth the investment, but I have yet to spring for any of them. I use a free tool called Traffic Travis. It doesn't have the power of some of the commercial tools, but it's adequate for my needs.
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        • Profile picture of the author RMC
          Sell your frustrations, as well as your little bits of success, package it up into reports - ebooks - videos, blog posts, stories.... sell you and your experiences online. Sell the software that got you one step closer to the dream. The hosting that supports your passion. These will come naturally, but do not sell easy cash 4 life promises unless you yourself can deliver on that promise.

          You have nice sites, you just aren't getting a following because it's not authentic.
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  • Profile picture of the author kevinfar
    Hey there,

    don't give up. Most of the time it's all in the mindset. Start by focusing on one and only one item and if you know that it can work, then make it work.

    Don't try and focus on too many items at the same time because it will probably do more harm than good.

    Also, as someone said you can also try to find some type of side income that will keep things positive such as offering some type of service to people.

    Whatever you do, don't give up.

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  • Profile picture of the author Carlsbadd
    Anette,

    Your weight loss site looks interesting but the content is not very good, if you want to snazz it up a bit have a copywriter to look at it.

    There are some small mistakes costing you sales. For example you have a section on stomach fat exercises but don't give any examples of how to do a proper sit up or any other exercises, the content just drones on with common sense stuff most every reader already knows.
    Also your links are not well defined and this could be loosing you sales

    Example in this sentence:

    ( For the best diets and stomach flattening exercises to get rid of belly fat and get six pack abs visit this website today and start with the new you right now.)

    the link is in the the words themselves, unless you mouse over it you would miss it, you have to make the link stand out and call the reader to action. put the link right there in front of the reader, don't assume they will find the link by mousing over it.

    You have potential , just clean up the site some and make the content better.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
    You need to sell 2 or 3 of those websites off on Flippa.Com.

    Your biggest mistake is trying to market 5 different websites.
    That's suicide and your asking for failure. You can't possibly
    keep track of your websites unless you have a team behind
    you, and I have to assume you don't.

    It's not neccessarily the niche you get into that'l make you
    money. Most people will tell you NOT to get in the IM niche,
    but if your PASSIONATE about numbers, money, and how
    it works - even as a newbie - you can excel.

    But if your passionate about a long term problem you had
    with weight, you can act as a business women and make that
    successful.

    Personally, I only work on 2 business models at the moment,
    because that's all I care to personally handle. Some people
    can do more. You have to know your limits and make ONE
    thing work first before you move on to the other.

    Anyways, I gaurantee you can sell those websites on flippa,
    I do it myself (one of my businesses).

    Sell one website at a time, and get over the $20 fee because
    that's what stops alot of people from considering using the
    service.

    Price your website at BIN (whatever value according to traffic
    and potential sales - likely not more than $150 $200 bucks) and
    set the start price at $5 with a reserve half way between your
    BIN but DO leave the sale of your websites up for negotiation
    despite your desired sale price and reserve.

    You will make from the sales of those sites what it's worth in
    the marketplace. You can alter the value some to make more
    money if your a good salesman or marketer and make a strong
    case why your website can be profitable to a buyer, but for
    the most part, people are going to pay for what it's worth.

    So, find $20, and sell each of those bad boys one at a time until
    you get to 1 or 2 to devote your attention to
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    • Profile picture of the author remotedb
      Originally Posted by WhoIsBenjamin View Post

      You need to sell 2 or 3 of those websites off on Flippa.Com.

      Your biggest mistake is trying to market 5 different websites.
      That's suicide and your asking for failure. You can't possibly
      keep track of your websites unless you have a team behind
      you, and I have to assume you don't.

      It's not neccessarily the niche you get into that'l make you
      money. Most people will tell you NOT to get in the IM niche,
      but if your PASSIONATE about numbers, money, and how
      it works - even as a newbie - you can excel.

      But if your passionate about a long term problem you had
      with weight, you can act as a business women and make that
      successful.

      Personally, I only work on 2 business models at the moment,
      because that's all I care to personally handle. Some people
      can do more. You have to know your limits and make ONE
      thing work first before you move on to the other.

      Anyways, I gaurantee you can sell those websites on flippa,
      I do it myself (one of my businesses).

      Sell one website at a time, and get over the $20 fee because
      that's what stops alot of people from considering using the
      service.

      Price your website at BIN (whatever value according to traffic
      and potential sales - likely not more than $150 $200 bucks) and
      set the start price at $5 with a reserve half way between your
      BIN but DO leave the sale of your websites up for negotiation
      despite your desired sale price and reserve.

      You will make from the sales of those sites what it's worth in
      the marketplace. You can alter the value some to make more
      money if your a good salesman or marketer and make a strong
      case why your website can be profitable to a buyer, but for
      the most part, people are going to pay for what it's worth.

      So, find $20, and sell each of those bad boys one at a time until
      you get to 1 or 2 to devote your attention to
      Everyone I know who is successful in this business has many websites. Every successful methodology I've ever seen preaches that as well, Google Sniper, Niche Blitzkriege, 30DC. All of them. They are all based on a "Set it and Forget it" methodology. It just works and works extremely well. Putting all your eggs in one basket is practically begging for failure. The key is to develop many low volume websites that don't need much maintenance. Then your portfolio is diversified and spread out and you have the time to focus on developing new lines of business constantly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ian Jackson
    Originally Posted by 101millionAds View Post

    Hi

    I am so tired and frustrated at this moment.
    Last year i got hooked on doing affiliate marketing and it is my full time job as a stay-home-mom.

    But after working hard since Jun last year and still not making any money from my 5 websites i am thinking of closing the door to Internet Marketing.

    I am doing everything i have learned about Marketing but nothing works and i can`t get more that 100 visitors per day.

    Is there anyone in here who is experiencing the same or someone who can give me some advice?

    I was hoping to earn some good money for my son and me but the dream is slowly fading away.

    Annette.
    Hi Annette

    I really sympathise with you. Give up, you must not though! I've been at this IM thing nearly 5 years p/time now, from zero knowledge.

    My f/time job is too well paid to give up just yet! & I have spent (invested) a fortune on my IM/niche education, learning a lot along the way. My ROI is still embarrasingly in the red! (big time).

    I used to get really down each time nothing worked, but somehow a PMA keeps me going, and I'm steadily making progress, building my business bit by bit. It's a long hard haul, so what I'm saying is - you're in good company & try not to measure your performance against time; it's a marathon, not a sprint

    hth
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  • Profile picture of the author JoeHughes
    Hi,

    Firstr of all well done for getting your sites up and getting some traffic. With another niche 3,000 visitors amonth could earn you upwards of $500 a month which is a start.

    Pick something non im and go for a more minimal site. I have some sites that are less than 10 pages so the content creation is minimal. I then work on them for a while until they are ranking and build another site.

    Quite quickly you can have 10 or so of these mini sites making you a good living.

    Finally you have not wasted your time so far, you have learnt a ton of valuable skills you just need to adapt a little and go in another direction.

    Personally I would not sell your sites just don't work on them and go back to them later.
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  • Profile picture of the author Emily Meeks
    To reiterate what others have said, you've definitely spread yourself too thin. It would be far more effective to put all your energy into empowering ONE site, rather than adding pieces to multiple sites. Once you get one site rolling, you can use the money from that particular site to fuel your other endeavors more quickly (you know why some marketers make a killing with multiple sites? They outsource - after all, they have the exact same 24 hours as everyone else, and setting up everything yourself is extremely time-consuming).

    If you're not interested in weight loss, don't worry about that niche. It's also very overcrowded. Your niche should be A.) Something That People Will Gladly Pay For and B.) Something You're Actually Interested In. If either one of those factors is missing, you're not going to get very far.

    Consider the business model as well. Unless you have a massive outsourcing budget, promoting random products through article marketing, etc. won't get you very far either. Most affiliate marketing success comes from building relationships with a list. Don't forget CPA marketing, blogging, Adsense, or some combination of all the above. I see you're a War Room member - there's tons of brilliant ideas in there, so peruse through it with an open mind. Find a single idea or business model that not only appeals to you, but plays to your strengths. What are you good at? Base your decision based on what you excel in, or willing to learn more about. Draw up a daily action plan and STICK TO IT.

    Last but not least, I've seen people transform from struggling newbies into successful marketers here. I myself have been struggling, and am coming out of my shell. Remember - it's not enough to learn from your mistakes, you must APPLY what you have learned. Stay dedicated, consider all the responses, and take action, and you'll reach your goals. Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author remotedb
      Originally Posted by moneysoapbox View Post

      To reiterate what others have said, you've definitely spread yourself too thin. It would be far more effective to put all your energy into empowering ONE site, rather than adding pieces to multiple sites. Once you get one site rolling, you can use the money from that particular site to fuel your other endeavors more quickly (you know why some marketers make a killing with multiple sites? They outsource - after all, they have the exact same 24 hours as everyone else, and setting up everything yourself is extremely time-consuming).

      If you're not interested in weight loss, don't worry about that niche. It's also very overcrowded. Your niche should be A.) Something That People Will Gladly Pay For and B.) Something You're Actually Interested In. If either one of those factors is missing, you're not going to get very far.

      Consider the business model as well. Unless you have a massive outsourcing budget, promoting random products through article marketing, etc. won't get you very far either. Most affiliate marketing success comes from building relationships with a list. Don't forget CPA marketing, blogging, Adsense, or some combination of all the above. I see you're a War Room member - there's tons of brilliant ideas in there, so peruse through it with an open mind. Find a single idea or business model that not only appeals to you, but plays to your strengths. What are you good at? Base your decision based on what you excel in, or willing to learn more about. Draw up a daily action plan and STICK TO IT.

      Last but not least, I've seen people transform from struggling newbies into successful marketers here. I myself have been struggling, and am coming out of my shell. Remember - it's not enough to learn from your mistakes, you must APPLY what you have learned. Stay dedicated, consider all the responses, and take action, and you'll reach your goals. Good luck.
      Nice words, but I couldn't disagree more. If you put all your eggs in one basket and Google slaps your account, or the product you are marketing goes belly up, you are out of business pronto.

      Multiple sites + outsourcing is the way to go, but it does not have to be expensive or a lot of work. You can get good people on GAF or Elance for next to nothing. I have good people doing great work for me at less than half what it costs to hire the very lowest priced of the ones I've seen here.

      Maybe I'm just lucky, I haven't really struggled at all. 80% of my sites find their way into the top 10 within less than a month. I'm turning a profit on most of them. It's not a lot of money right now, but I've found a formula that works and is easy to scale with a minimum of maintenance, and with that it WILL be a lot of money fairly soon. If you ask me IM is like shooting fish in a barrel, all you have to do is educate yourself and use your noggin. Work smart, not hard.
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      • Profile picture of the author Emily Meeks
        Originally Posted by remotedb View Post

        Nice words, but I couldn't disagree more. If you put all your eggs in one basket and Google slaps your account, or the product you are marketing goes belly up, you are out of business pronto.
        I think you misunderstood what I was getting at.

        I'm a firm believer in multiple streams of income as well as NOT putting all your eggs in one basket. If Google slaps your account, you should be able to keep going because of the relationships you build with your repeated customer base, aka building a list.

        As for the list? Back it up.

        If your host dies, you should have ALL your content backed up on your computer. Computer dies? Hope you backed that up as well.

        On and on.

        However, to START WITH, leverage one site. When you get good at it, expand your horizons. This tends to work best for many people.
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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Theriot
    You probably should give up on it at least for a while. Get it out of your head and then come back to it clean. Why are you trying the approach you're trying? Is it because it seemed "easier" to have a lot of sites rather than really focus on one? As you've seen, that doesn't really give the result lots of people claim it will.

    What I would recommend is that since you seem passionate enough, pick a niche you actually care about, and spend 6 months building a presence in that market with a site, forums, blog, tweeting, building a list - pure content. Build an audience. Then market to them with ads on the site. You only have to focus on content and interaction, and then picking offers they may like.

    When you've learned to do that in another niche, THEN come back to IM. IM is more interesting in that you can market to people AS the content, but approaching it straight in will be frustrating and make you want to quit. Case in point.

    EDIT: I wanted to add - I checked your sites. I wouldn't buy from them. Would you? Now I might buy from YOU. You seem nice, and genuine, and sincere. So be THAT person that you are HERE, on your own sites. Be you.
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  • Profile picture of the author thobbs31
    The only way you will ever fail at IM is if you quit. As long as you are still trying, still working, still learning, and still taking action, you have not failed. Take a day and write down your goals and your plan to meet them. Then, come back and find the information or help you need to achieve your goals and meet your plan. Be precise. Be focused. Be resilient. You'll get what you want in the end.
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  • Profile picture of the author MJMartin
    FWIW, I've been where you are at. I still consider myself a newbie (been dabbling for lack of a better word) in IM for about 1 year. I made the mistake a year ago of trying to start a "Make Money Online" website, even though I hadn't earned a dime.

    I took a few month hiatus, regrouped and came back more focused and energized.

    I now focus basically on one website in a niche that I think has a need for people no matter what time of year and no matter what the economy brings.

    I also learned that I cannot be an expert at everything, swallowed my pride, and outsourced what I either 1) don't have the expertise to do or 2) don't have the time to do (at least do correctly)

    I've only been back in "the game" for a month now, but I can see how things are slowly coming together. I made my first affiliate commission of $40 (not a lot, of course), but it keeps me focused to keep doing what I'm doing.

    In short, don't give up. If what your doing isn't working, change your game plan
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    • Profile picture of the author 101millionAds
      Originally Posted by MJMartin View Post

      FWIW, I've been where you are at. I still consider myself a newbie (been dabbling for lack of a better word) in IM for about 1 year. I made the mistake a year ago of trying to start a "Make Money Online" website, even though I hadn't earned a dime.

      I took a few month hiatus, regrouped and came back more focused and energized.

      I now focus basically on one website in a niche that I think has a need for people no matter what time of year and no matter what the economy brings.

      I also learned that I cannot be an expert at everything, swallowed my pride, and outsourced what I either 1) don't have the expertise to do or 2) don't have the time to do (at least do correctly)

      I've only been back in "the game" for a month now, but I can see how things are slowly coming together. I made my first affiliate commission of $40 (not a lot, of course), but it keeps me focused to keep doing what I'm doing.

      In short, don't give up. If what your doing isn't working, change your game plan
      Thank you Martin.

      Congratulation with your sale!

      I need to do some serious "brainstorming" regarding my business and i know that things will be better than right now.

      I have been making $60 per month from www.easycash4life.com and i can`t make a living from that so back to thinking things thru.
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    • Profile picture of the author 808
      Wow, this thread is what I needed too... It seems that experience and success from so many levels have shared. I'm new as well, and have spread myself way too thin. ^_^
      Sounds like that's been a common mistake.

      I think the image I get is a lion hunting it's prey... it doesn't just run after the herd, but instead picks a specific opportune subject and puts everything into it.

      This may seem a little simplified, but so many times nature is the blueprint to what our complicated social and high tech life mimic.

      Oh well, my point...
      I'm going to focus on 3 of my better niches and put the rest on burner, but for starters... go really hard after 1.
      Thanks everyone for this thread. This is my first time on
      Warrior Forum... already has been helpful.
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  • Profile picture of the author RebeccaL
    If you're not making money online then why are you in the make money online niche.. this is a mistake so many people make. There are THOUSANDS of niches out there. The one you chose is the toughest to break. With that said your ranking of 27 for a top phrase deserves respect. There's no need to "leave" that niche but you obviously need to be making money, so let those sites age and get something else going.

    I don't recommend Clickbank. People recommending you to go to Clickbank are just rehashing the same old useless "advice" from ebooks and 'gurus' who probably market nothing but IM ebooks. Clickbank products are generally not easy nuts to crack.

    I recommend targeting micro-niches. If you need some help to get started PM me. I hate seeing people get discouraged with affiliate marketing just because they are looking at it from the wrong angle.
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    • Profile picture of the author 101millionAds
      Originally Posted by RebeccaL View Post

      If you're not making money online then why are you in the make money online niche.. this is a mistake so many people make. There are THOUSANDS of niches out there. The one you chose is the toughest to break. With that said your ranking of 27 for a top phrase deserves respect. There's no need to "leave" that niche but you obviously need to be making money, so let those sites age and get something else going.

      I don't recommend Clickbank. People recommending you to go to Clickbank are just rehashing the same old useless "advice" from ebooks and 'gurus' who probably market nothing but IM ebooks. Clickbank products are generally not easy nuts to crack.

      I recommend targeting micro-niches. If you need some help to get started PM me. I hate seeing people get discouraged with affiliate marketing just because they are looking at it from the wrong angle.

      Hi,

      It`s been a while since i started this treat and things are slightly better.

      My website are now on page 1 for the most compeditive keywords like make money online,how to make money online ect...

      I write an article per day and submit it to Unique Article Wizard - Thats it.

      That is the only thing i do to keep my ranking
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      • Profile picture of the author TheNewGuy2010
        Ranking?

        What about the money?

        Are you making the money yet?

        You can make a ton of money online and be on page 100 of Google.

        Trying to keep your site on Page 1 is going to be like being a Hamster wheel.







        Originally Posted by 101millionAds View Post

        Hi,

        It`s been a while since i started this treat and things are slightly better.

        My website are now on page 1 for the most compeditive keywords like make money online,how to make money online ect...

        I write an article per day and submit it to Unique Article Wizard - Thats it.

        That is the only thing i do to keep my ranking
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ryans
    There are some fantastic ideas in this thread. I think you have a few business models to choose from. I would like to share one more. This is a little trick that I have used in the past in to gain some extra money flow.

    1. Sign up with a well know CPA network like Neverblue or Copeac.

    2. Look for offers that are INCENTIVES. Email campaigns work best. Even though they have a low payout, you will be able to get a lot of sign ups by executing the following steps.

    3. Now what you want to do is hold a contest of some kind. For example, you might want to give away something cool that people would go gaga over like a branded snowboard (just get creative). You will need to build a basic website with a picture of the branded snowboard and a quick sign up form (I would use GetResponse or Aweber). Once the user signs up to the contest you will send them an email directing them to the incentive offer. Tell them that they must sign up to be registered for the campaign. As for the actual gift, I would suggest getting your hands on a branded snowboard. This way, when you make enough money and get the picture of the winner with the board, you can easily market to that same group with another contest as there will be some kind of trust built between you and that group.

    4. You will need to drive traffic to your offer. So here is ONE way of doing so. Start a fan page on Facebook. Add some photos and some basic updates about the contest. You will need to start a basic campaign using the ad platform. The beauty of this system is once you have enough people on the Fan page, you will be able to have this campaign go viral (word of mouth). I would suggest to only use around $100 in campaigns and let the Facebook script take over. Also, when you start you campaign, you can target people that would love this gift. If you are looking for snowboarders, well, you type in keywords like snowboard, snowboarding, etc... catch my drift? Than the magic happens...when one friend joins, all their other friends will see that they have joined and this is where the snowball effect begins.

    The beauty of this system, is when you get everything rolling, it all runs on auto pilot. Hope this opens the flood gates. Good luck at making some money online.


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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
    It seems to me that you jumped in with the sharks instead of jumping into the bay with fish.

    IM and Weight loss are freaking tough niches.

    I think you should try more regular things like everyday physical products - they are really easy to sell. I think once you get that experience under your belt, you will see more success in the more competitive niches.
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    • Profile picture of the author remotedb
      Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

      It seems to me that you jumped in with the sharks instead of jumping into the bay with fish.

      IM and Weight loss are freaking tough niches.

      I think you should try more regular things like everyday physical products - they are really easy to sell. I think once you get that experience under your belt, you will see more success in the more competitive niches.
      I could not agree more. You have it absolutely right! Physical products sell and sell well. It's relatively easy money and it's easy to scale.
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  • Profile picture of the author Terri LC
    Hi Annette;

    I felt your frustration. One thing I want to challenge you to do is MAKE SURE your WHY is strong. I mean REALLY strong. I am a single parent with a 14-year old son and I can't even begin to tell you how big my WHY is. I will never give up or stop learning about IM.

    As and Event Manager, I love marketing, pr, working with the media, all that stuff, and now ready to transport some of that online, but it took me a very long time, like a gent said here, I dabbled for a couple of years and only got serious a year ago, and even then, I spent hours and hours (and hours) opting in, reading emails, reading reports, reading reading reading until it hit me one day from a post here about whether or not I was ever going to get around to taking action. It was time to unsubscribe and get over my analysis paralysis.

    I love the MMO niche too b/c I was learning so much and wanted to share my new-found knowledge, my trials and errors with more newer newbies....but I finally wised up. Now, its time to take action. You need to be online. I don't know about spending 9 hours for months on end like you mentioned - there has to be some balance or else you can overwhelm yourself with frustration.

    I don't even have advice of how many websites you should have, I just know that if you have the right mindset ~ you're a winner.

    I think you and I had our biz blogs set up by the same person. Mine came with content. All the newer posts are now mine and I realize its time to kick it up a notch.

    I hope to stay connected and share strategies.

    Best of luck to you......

    Terri
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  • Profile picture of the author digitalstar
    Before selecting a niche for affiliate marketing you need to do proper keyword research. Otherwise we will not get proper results even after working hard for months.
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  • Profile picture of the author LetsGoViral
    Well what can I say. Affiliate marketing is not for everyone. If AM doesn't appeal to you and you see no success, maybe there is some other niche you would want to specialize in? Regarding internet business, maybe you could become a copywriter or a designer.

    There are so many pages out there right now that it's not the good old choose a niche-> make a page -> wait for them to come anymore. You really have to think out of the box and be unique to meet success or just find some really small and obscure niche that nobody has specialized in before (not that easy).

    I found a good way to earn money online is via offering quality services. Maybe you could offer some of your skill as well?

    PS: I personally think you should choose the make money niche as long as you are not making money yourself. And by making money I mean making good money. If you are a millionaire, feel free to start teaching others.
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  • Profile picture of the author netbank4all
    Hey guys,

    I am new to this forum, but I can give a little solution for the problem arise to 101 million ads. She told that she is going to giveup her affilite marketing. Because of the frustration and having more than 5 websites and not making any money.

    I didn't have any own website, but I could earn $120.81 in just 2 days of set up a clickbank product and with youtube. If you have time please read the story.

    First
    google.com/trends
    Find any tv serials like vampire diaries, gossip girls, desparate house wives, etc,
    not only this evey day some tv episode will be listed in trends with its name and season and part also. i.e. vampire diaries season 2 part 1 something like that.

    I am not telling to you to take this topic only, choose topic what is hot on that day?
    Because everybody is running behind weight loss, online money making, casino poker, etc,

    These topics are always having too much competition, so it is difficult to gain money from these topics unless if we have strong website backround.

    find a good topic which is hot(1-10) in google trends. Go to clickbank, find the suitable products to match tv episoedes such as vampire diaries are relating to tv channels, online tv and movie products.

    clickbank gives a product called satellitedirect.tv is one of the advertiser who is giving $30.00 if any one register under your link.

    select a product like this and save it in note pad. go to ads.youtube.com/keyword_tool to analysis the competition of your product, pick keywords that has search counts upto 20000.

    search any video already uploaded by some one. download it from keepvid.com edit using windows movie maker. end of the video say something like " tv episodes can be removed from youtube, so it is better to watch rest of the episodes and other channel serials in my own site put below your URL

    cloak your clickbank referral link in snipurl.com


    give the exact trend name, to the video, and give the related keywords provided from google trends and youtube keyword tool, select the catagory and save changes. done at youtube.com

    if possible make some annotations tells about your website which is cloacked to redirect your click bank referral link.

    if the topic is hot on that day - serial or what ever it is , you will get from 2000-5000 views with in 3-4 hours.

    then go and see your earnings you will definitely made 2-3 sales that u give a decent income of $90.00 is it easy to implement? no investment or buying domains or hostingst.

    try it... don't give up I will help u.
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  • Profile picture of the author troy23
    You're doing the right thing.

    Affilliate marketing days are coming to an end.

    Builld a website, build a buisness.

    Google will love you for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author OfferJunkie
    It's not an easy one to crack but rest assured once you've done it, it's an easy climb. Start with a low competitive niche and if possible, something that you're genuinely interested in...it only makes the work easier. Learn as much as you possibly can about the various ways to drive traffic...paid as well as unpaid. PPV has been a great winner for me the past 6 weeks. If you want quick results, paid advertising is the way to go...but make sure you start carefully as it can burn your pockets very quickly if you just dive in.

    Also, don't forget about offline marketing (good 'ol newspaper ads etc)...it's worked a treat for a couple of my affiliate campaigns.

    Don't lose heart...keep at it and you will succeed! Hope this has been of some help for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author TeamDad
    RemotedB,
    Sounds like you have a nice business model. Care to share more details?
    David
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
    Hi Annette,

    I just finished reading through this thread a 2nd time and have to say there is some good, quality advice. In particular I have to mention Jon Mills, Becky Hagel, David R and Lee (cashcow).

    My advice is one I preach and try to live by every day. Focus! Focus! Focus! Your shotgun approach is not working, but by taking the time to focus on one project and mastering it before moving on to the next one.

    Focus is the one thing that took me from where you are now in your business; too where I am with my business today. And frankly I believe that most of the successful Warriors on the WF, will tell you was and is one of the main keys (if not the # 1 key) to making a go of it on the Internet.

    Reevaluating, (as mentioned by rlharding) is your first step, focus on that and then focus say on selling or flipping one of the sites, to raise cash or finance your next focal point.

    It's also important for you get out from in front of your computer and spend some quality time looking after yourself. A brisk walk every day can do wonders for helping you focus on the right things.

    Ken Leatherman

    The Old Geezer
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  • Profile picture of the author ivanadee
    Hi annette...
    when I was a newbie and almost give up, I give myself a "small victory". Small victory is doing some things in internet and get at least $1 from it. that money keep me surviving because I have an evident that internet really can be a source of making money. So, as a gift for u, just feel free to try fiverr and get your $5. Dont give up.You can do this.keep learning.because when u success, you will laugh at the fact that u ALMOST leave your financial freedom opportunity.
    warmest regards for your family
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  • Profile picture of the author nongnut36
    Hi there I am newbie and yes it is very diificult, I sold 2 products in 1 month but it is avery tough area to succeed. I have lots to go through yet. If you want good free advice check out stevewebbermarketing. and he will also answer your emails and you do not have to join his site, one of the things he suggests is going into smaller niches such as photograpy and if I do not succeed in what I am doing now i will do the same take a look and see what you think/ Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author revenue27
    Maybe you can find some mentor to guide you on, you can find a lot of people here that can help you out try WSO section ... lol , anyway well if you still make some $$ from your online venture then there is still hope, you just need to tweek your strategy to get more higher $$ , Like others say, you can try to sell your best site at flippa to get more income. Well Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author waken
    But stats shows that you're doing well...

    Easycash4life.com Site Info

    Peopleshealthportal.com Site Info

    Perhaps, you should look at how to improve your monetization skill... traffic is there..

    For fast cash though, just sell those websites...
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  • Profile picture of the author bfriday11
    Originally Posted by 101millionAds View Post

    Hi

    I am so tired and frustrated at this moment.
    Last year i got hooked on doing affiliate marketing and it is my full time job as a stay-home-mom.

    But after working hard since Jun last year and still not making any money from my 5 websites i am thinking of closing the door to Internet Marketing.

    I am doing everything i have learned about Marketing but nothing works and i can`t get more that 100 visitors per day.

    Is there anyone in here who is experiencing the same or someone who can give me some advice?

    I was hoping to earn some good money for my son and me but the dream is slowly fading away.

    Annette.
    The only advice I will give you is that "winners never quit and quitters never win". Try to figure out what you are not doing right and make a change to it. That may be the solution you need to start making money from your website. Get good online marketing guide to help you that.
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  • Profile picture of the author jgand
    The difference between success and failure is often just plain old persistence, you can't win if you give up. If your sure your doing things in the correct way, you should see some signs of success in the near future.
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  • Profile picture of the author rts2271
    Focus on 1 site.
    Do not put your eggs in one basket, build multiple revenue streams.
    There is no such thing as get rich quick, there is such a thing as get poor quick.
    Never quit.
    It can take YEARS to make a decent revenue from online business. If you can't accept that possibility get a part-time job to supplement your income.
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    • Profile picture of the author rts2271
      Annette,
      I just did a bit of research on your site, I like it and you really could be making a TON of cash with it and it's ranking.
      But can I make a suggestion?
      Get rid of all the options on the page, get your optin box up higher and get rid of all the crap ads on the page. Theres no reason for a petsmart ad to be on a page for make money online. Squeeze the people and get there email an first name and build a massive list. If you do any ppc your going to get a helluva low ppc cost because of the solid content and ranking.
      The problem is the # of options you give your viewers makes the site very very confusing. Ditch the menu bar at top, the ads, and the giant sidebar with 876987569765875 links.
      The site is very unfocussed, but with enough potential to make you 10k a month. If you want help I can loan you one of my wordpress techs for a day to build you a theme similar in scheme to what you have but without all the garbage.
      You have to much going for you to quit now soldier. Now move out and make a buttload of cash.

      Collect leads
      Market to them
      Profit
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  • Profile picture of the author louiseevans222
    Originally Posted by 101millionAds View Post

    Hi

    I am so tired and frustrated at this moment.
    Last year i got hooked on doing affiliate marketing and it is my full time job as a stay-home-mom.

    But after working hard since Jun last year and still not making any money from my 5 websites i am thinking of closing the door to Internet Marketing.

    I am doing everything i have learned about Marketing but nothing works and i can`t get more that 100 visitors per day.

    Is there anyone in here who is experiencing the same or someone who can give me some advice?

    I was hoping to earn some good money for my son and me but the dream is slowly fading away.

    Annette.
    Anne, how can you give up, success is already there but you have to look within you....

    It is possible to be successful, everyone has to pass that breaking point if they want success, and that's the reason why most fail because when they get there they turn back and give up, but only a few actually really break through that point....

    And when you do, that's when you start to see success.....

    Anne I advise you not to give up and to carry on, but change your mindset, maybe your mindset is holding you back....

    Also make sure to focus on one thing....

    If 1 website isn't making you money why create 10?

    You need to take step at a time, and make sure you don't focus on making sells, but focus on making LEADS!

    Hope you the best, don't give up be strong change your mindset and empower yourself, because what you have to understand is success is within you....

    Louise Evans
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  • I don't mean to sound mean at all, and I sure appreciate the whole mom-at-home situation, but... Make Money Online and Weight Loss??? I mean really? You admit that you don't make any money online youself and moreover you state that you dislike weight loss, so... WTF are you doing in those niches???

    Look, you really gotta think out of the box if you want to make it in this game, and you're NOT going to make it if you follow what every Tom, Dick and Harry out there are doing (meaning Make Money Online, Weight Loss, Forex, etc).

    My advise? forget ALL you read in this forum about "hot" niches, keywords, SEO, etc. None of that matters at this point to you because you gotta start from the foundations of a solid online business: pick a niche you actually enjoy and are familiar with, and build ONE solid, real, worth-subscribing-for blog or website. Focus on that baby and build it up, firstly on content and traffic, and then on monetization ways. The rest will be history...
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    • Profile picture of the author 101millionAds
      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      I don't mean to sound mean at all, and I sure appreciate the whole mom-at-home situation, but... Make Money Online and Weight Loss??? I mean really? You admit that you don't make any money online youself and moreover you state that you dislike weight loss, so... WTF are you doing in those niches???

      Look, you really gotta think out of the box if you want to make it in this game, and you're NOT going to make it if you follow what every Tom, Dick and Harry out there are doing (meaning Make Money Online, Weight Loss, Forex, etc).

      My advise? forget ALL you read in this forum about "hot" niches, keywords, SEO, etc. None of that matters at this point to you because you gotta start from the foundations of a solid online business: pick a niche you actually enjoy and are familiar with, and build ONE solid, real, worth-subscribing-for blog or website. Focus on that baby and build it up, firstly on content and traffic, and then on monetization ways. The rest will be history...

      Sorry but the weight loss site was sold half a year ago so i don`t have the site
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  • Profile picture of the author TimG
    Annette,
    Just read through this thread and visited your sites so please forgive me if I missed this somewhere but are you using adsense at all as an income stream? If not, you should add it to your sites because you are ranking well and receiving traffic so the only thing missing is the income generation.

    Also, if your sites can produce some adsense income you immediately increase the value of the sites should you choose to sell them. A strong combination of traffic, rankings and income is more then enough to get many sites sold for a decent amount.

    Respectfully,
    Tim
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