Please Stop this duplicate content penalty madness. There's no such thing (Official Video frm BIG G)

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People, JUST STOP IT.

I have been reading so many threads on people worrying about duplicate content and how their sites got penalized yada yada.

Here's the thing, there is no such thing as DUPLICATE CONTENT PENALTY.

And here's what I base my statement on:

EDIT: PLEASE DON'T POST TELLING ME THAT I SHOULD'T BELIEVE ANYONE ON THE INTERNET. THIS IS AN OFFICIAL VIDEO BY GOOGLE.


I have posted this video on my blog and I have posted a link in my signature to let people know that all they are doing is crazy and they need to stop. But it wasn't working out so here I am with a thread.

BTW, if you want real information look for official information and not just somebody's rant.

Also, here's an official guide from google on how to do SEO. http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post1661930 It doesn't have big secrets but it will let you know how simple SEO really is.

Once again, Please Don't trust everything you read. Do you research first.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    So - you're making a statement of fact based on what someone on the internet said in a video - but you have a problem with people saying contradicting things based on using the same strategy?

    I think your last statement sums it up - don't listen to anyone - test for yourself.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      So - you're making a statement of fact based on what someone on the internet said in a video - but you have a problem with people saying contradicting things based on using the same strategy?

      I think your last statement sums it up - don't listen to anyone - test for yourself.
      This is a video from an official Google Webmaster Channel on Youtube. Please do your research before you post.

      Please watch the video first......
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      • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
        Originally Posted by mohammad111 View Post

        This is a video from an official Google Webmaster Channel on Youtube. Please do your research before you post.

        Please watch the video first......
        I KNOW - HE SAID IT IN THE VIDEO _ WE'RE NOT ALL RETARDED!!!!

        He also never said that you won't see adverse effects - he actually said that they like to show unique results and sometimes get it wrong.

        This means YOU CAN feel adverse effects - it's just the idiotic practice of calling those effects 'Google Penalty' instead of just Googles algorithms catching more than they were trying to.

        This is not new news and does not stop people being concerned about crazy effects they see that drop their rankings.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
          Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

          I KNOW - HE SAID IT IN THE VIDEO _ WE'RE NOT ALL RETARDED!!!!

          He also never said that you won't see adverse effects - he actually said that they like to show unique results and sometimes get it wrong.

          This means YOU CAN feel adverse effects - it's just the idiotic practice of calling those effects 'Google Penalty' instead of just Googles algorithms catching more than they were trying to.

          This is not new news and does not stop people being concerned about crazy effects they see that drop their rankings.
          Please read the Title. It says DUPLICATE CONTENT PENALTY.

          It means your site won't get penalized for having duplicate content.

          Duh!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      So - you're making a statement of fact based on what someone on the internet said in a video - but you have a problem with people saying contradicting things based on using the same strategy?
      BTW, that's why I said you need to watch the video. That someone is an Engineer at Google Search Quality and you can see that in the first second of the video. So, it was obvious that you didn't watch the video and just came cracking down on me.
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      • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
        Originally Posted by mohammad111 View Post

        BTW, that's why I said you need to watch the video. That someone is an Engineer at Google Search Quality and you can see that in the first second of the video. So, it was obvious that you didn't watch the video and just came cracking down on me.
        I WATCHED THE VIDEO - stop trying to read my mind - that's the problem you're supposedly trying to fix (people reading Googles mind).

        I've seen that stuff said many times before too - it's not new and it doesn't resolve anything.

        People will still 'feel' like they've had a penality when their stuff doesn't show up.

        I've outranked people for stuff they wrote before just because my sites are older and more linked when I've reprinted something from EZA etc. They've complained to me many times that Google has 'penalized' them because I have duplicated their content.

        No matter how many times I tell them the same stuff as the Google people do - they still feel that they got penalized.

        You can't stop people worrying and making up things to explain their concerns.

        Trying to bitch at me that you read my mind and I must just not understand the Google guy isn't solving the situation. I've been doing SEO pretty much since seo started and I still would never try to tell anyone what are Google facts - because Google always change their algorithms and the effects we see are often not what they planned and normal good websites often get scrubbed from the results or don't show up for months - people do feel like they got penalised - that's life.

        Saying their concerns are false doesn't stop them worrying - especially when their site just disappeared out of Google.

        It's good that you share the video - just not that you now think you know everything and want to tell people 'facts' which are just what you're working out based on what other people say.

        Your last comment was right - people should NOT listen to others about this and should just test for themselves and do what they believe is the right thing and in the interest of their target audience.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        I watched video...I listened to every word he said.

        Ultimately, it sounds like Google and everybody is playing word games.

        There are a lot of things he didn't bring up which I'd love to hear some
        answers to, such as...if you syndicate your content to multiple article
        directories.

        Do they all get indexed or because they are all the same article, they only
        show the most relevant results?

        While this may not result in a penalty to your site as far as how it ranks,
        it still doesn't answer the question of whether or not all those articles get
        listed and count as backlinks to your site.

        Therefore, if every submission of your article beyond the first one, or the
        initial placement on your site results in no listing, while this may not
        technically be a penalty, it sure does make for a lot of wasted time and
        effort if those articles ultimately end up being for nothing.

        Granted, this seems to indicate that you can take an article from a
        directory and place it on your site and won't be penalized.

        However, which do you think is better for your own site as far as being
        ranked?

        1. Having content from other sites.
        2. Having your own original content seen nowhere else.

        My money is on number 2 as a web master.

        Yes, maybe there is no actual penalty.

        But I'd rather spend my time writing my own original content than scraping
        it off of every other site in existence, especially since the latter does
        nothing for making me an expert in the field I'm writing on.

        Just my 2 cents of course.

        Your mileage may vary.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kitty Kiki
          It may be off topic but I want to share with you guys..I am already planning to have another blogspot where I will put articles(written by others) already published in EZA or other article directories with their links remain intact.

          I will take only articles which are of great quality and focusing only on a single niche.

          Why do I want to do that?

          1. Other people took my articles from EZA(and other directories) and published in their site. I can do the same. One of the reasons why I agree that you should put your article on your site first.
          2. EZA allows you to do that. It is a fact.
          3. In my blogspot's profile, I will put a link to my site.( I want to test it myself whether it will be beneficial over the long run)
          4. I want to create some adsense revenue from this site( I want to test it myself whether it works or not)
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          • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
            I have a lot of blogs that do exactly that - however I don't consider them anything more than portals for people interested in the subject - not having interesting unique content is a poor way to do things you care about.
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            • Profile picture of the author Kitty Kiki
              Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

              I have a lot of blogs that do exactly that - however I don't consider them anything more than portals for people interested in the subject - not having interesting unique content is a poor way to do things you care about.
              I don't want to read your mind but I want to know your thoughts...
              You are an old timer here so I don't mind if you correct me if I am wrong.

              You are a tough guy which is good and I adore that.

              The question: Why do you create blogs if you just consider them portals for the people who are interested in the subject? As an internet marketer, you, me and others are here to make money.

              So, why do you waste time creating portals? How does the blogs help you to create more money for you?

              I am trying to understand your point.

              Thank you in advance.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kitty Kiki
    Originally Posted by mohammad111 View Post

    People, JUST STOP IT.

    I have been reading so many threads on people worrying about duplicate content and how their sites got penalized yada yada.

    Here's the thing, there is no such thing as DUPLICATE CONTENT PENALTY.

    And here's what I base my statement on:

    EDIT: PLEASE DON'T POST TELLING ME THAT I SHOULD'T BELIEVE ANYONE ON THE INTERNET. THIS IS AN OFFICIAL VIDEO BY GOOGLE.

    YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

    I have posted this video on my blog and I have posted a link in my signature to let people know that all they are doing is crazy and they need to stop. But it wasn't working out so here I am with a thread.

    BTW, if you want real information look for official information and not just somebody's rant.

    Also, here's an official guide from google on how to do SEO. http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post1661930 It doesn't have big secrets but it will let you know how simple SEO really is.

    Once again, Please Don't trust everything you read. Do you research first.
    Though I have only like 23 articles written over the past 2 months, I have tested myself and believe that duplicate penalty is myth.

    The problem is everyday new people will sign up at Warrior forum and one of their concerns will be about duplicate content penalty especially if they are doing article marketing.

    Now, I already understand that duplicate content penalty is not an issue and so do with others who agree with me, it is our job to teach newbies. Pls don't let the newbies scared of asking this question again in future.

    I have joined warrior forum in January. However, I started affiliate marketing in November and I was worried about duplicate content penalty issue until I read Article on site or EZA first ?

    What I am trying to say is, it will be a never ending issue though you show them the official video as different people have different comprehension level and mindset.

    Sad but true....
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by Kitty Kiki View Post

      Though I have only like 23 articles written over the past 2 months, I have tested myself and believe that duplicate penalty is myth.

      The problem is everyday new people will sign up at Warrior forum and one of their concerns will be about duplicate content penalty especially if they are doing article marketing.

      I have joined warrior forum in January. However, I started affiliate marketing in November and I was worried about duplicate content penalty issue until I read Article on site or EZA first ?

      What I am trying to say is, it will be a never ending issue though you show them the official video as different people have different comprehension level and mindset.

      Sad but true....
      Also having written over 10,000 articles over a 10 year period - my experience of these things is that peoples original concerns come from genuine observations, but then assumptions get made and misinformation starts.

      The truth is - what people call a penalty is very often not that, but it appears like that from the perspective of the person concerned and then they behave like it is true.

      People won't stop worrying about such things, and others will happily continue to sell them 'solutions'.
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  • I agree with you Andy
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    Alright Adny,

    I give up. You are a reputable Warrior Forum Member so I will shut up.

    But, The point I am making here is that as of now Google doesn't have something called a Duplicate Content Penalty.

    You watched the video, I am sorry that I thought you didn't. Happy Now.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by mohammad111 View Post

      Alright Adny,

      I give up. You are a reputable Warrior Forum Member so I will shut up.

      But, The point I am making here is that as of now Google doesn't have something called a Duplicate Content Penalty.

      You watched the video, I am sorry that I thought you didn't. Happy Now.
      I was already happy - We're in agreement about the label not being accurate.
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  • Profile picture of the author GavinLively
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    Google does weird things and to try to objectively figure out what they are doing, how, when and why is just an exercise in futility...

    People get so caught up in the minutia that they forget the point...The point is to provide value and have that value be of quality enough so people would willingly exchange another value (money) to recieve the value you are providing...

    I say focus on value FIRST and the rest of the "minutia", which is mostly just ever changing and subjective crap, will work itself out successfuly in direct proportion to how much value you are providing....

    Gavin
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  • Profile picture of the author MoneyRaker
    Thanks alot for this wonderful video..... it really did clear up alot of confusion in my mind .... cause 50 diff. people have 50 diff. opinions on this matter ... it was really getting on my nerves .... its nice to hear what the BIG G have to say themselves .....thanks alot once again.
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