Is there any alternative to Rapid Action Profits application?

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I read all over the IM space good things about Rapid Action Profits (RAP) solution and related strategy, but before investing $197, I wanted to know if there are cheaper alternatives, and/or those functionalities could be replicated manually...
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  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
    You could try $7 script.

    It allows you to run an affiliate program in conjunction with Paypal, just like R.A.P... but I wouldn't call it a substitute.

    It's more like a cheap fix until you get the real thing

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    • Profile picture of the author radhika
      What exactly you are looking at? Selling digital downloads? Using with paypal?

      Based on your criteria, you could find a cheap shopping cart to deliver downloads.

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  • This is not personally targeted at the poster. But people want to make money but are leery of investing until they know something works? But how do you know it works if you don't use it? Catch 22. You make your decision based on what other people think about the product or service.

    At some point you have to convince yourself that a product or service is worth the money and will provide you a return.

    Exactly why these types of questions are posed.

    But instead of looking for cheap alternatives ask yourself if you can live without this solution? A quality solution is worth paying more for, because it makes more for you.

    I'm not advocating wasting money. Do they have a refund policy? I looked quickly at the pitch and this type of lingo is a major turn off to me:

    "P.P.S. Don't forget. This is price is guaranteed for today only. We've increased the price before and will probably do so again. I'll keep it here at least until midnight tonight (EST), but make no promise about what it will cost you tomorrow."

    Why do the people who make these products try so hard to offend anyone of even average intelligence with this kind of tactic?
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    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
      Uhhh because they increase the price when they add more functionality.

      RAP was $127 not too long ago.

      Originally Posted by InternetMarketingIQ View Post

      Why do the people who make these products try so hard to offend anyone of even average intelligence with this kind of tactic?
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    • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
      Hi,
      Originally Posted by InternetMarketingIQ View Post

      I looked quickly at the pitch and this type of lingo is a major turn off to me:

      "P.P.S. Don't forget. This is price is guaranteed for today only. We've increased the price before and will probably do so again. I'll keep it here at least until midnight tonight (EST), but make no promise about what it will cost you tomorrow."

      Why do the people who make these products try so hard to offend anyone of even average intelligence with this kind of tactic?
      Sorry - there was no intention to offend anyone, and it certainly is NOT a "tactic".

      That's a totally honest statement.

      In fact... RAP was initially launched with a price tag of $47, but there have been 5 price increases since then. It only seemed prudent to mention it.
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  • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
    Im using RAP .. and the closest option Ive seen is eJunkie.

    They both have strengths. it depends really on what you "need".

    Upsells and One Time Offers ... RAP is better.

    Splitting commissions with affilaites and doing 2 tier affiliate programs - RAp is currently [ or last time I used eJunkie ] better.

    Speed, ease, reporting, not having to host configure and install a php script ... eJunkie ftw.

    However; I wanted to have instant affiliate commission splits via rotating the paypal accounts and having the affiliates handle their own customers [ or 1/2 of them ] refund requests, so I took RAP for s spin.

    Another warrior RichJerksNet [ if memory serves ] has a competing system you might look at as well.

    Worth $197 ... mos' def ... mandatory for product fulfillment and making money? ... ejunkie put some solid dosh in my paypal account and great folks on my lists as well. Depends on what ya "need" or want.

    hth,

    Steve



    Originally Posted by Chad Eljisr View Post

    I read all over the IM space good things about Rapid Action Profits (RAP) solution and related strategy, but before investing $197, I wanted to know if there are cheaper alternatives, and/or those functionalities could be replicated manually...
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Sid Hale is the owner of the RAP system. He's a fellow Warrior and a good guy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
    Originally Posted by Chad Eljisr View Post

    I read all over the IM space good things about Rapid Action Profits (RAP) solution and related strategy, but before investing $197, I wanted to know if there are cheaper alternatives, and/or those functionalities could be replicated manually...

    Depends on what exactly is turning you onto Rap.

    Are you looking to build affiliates and give them the instant commission?

    Do you not need to give them instant profits?

    What is your real list of what you need?
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  • Profile picture of the author Chad Eljisr
    Here why I am asking about Rapid Action Profits: It is an affiliate management system and it's so interesting because you can automatically opt your customers into your Aweber mailing list, thus building your list.

    The main purpose here is not just to build your list of buyers but also make money on the back end of your sales funnel. That means you would set the commissions up so that you pay 100% on all front end sales (affiliates getting paid directly at their Paypal account), and 50% on back end offers. It may sound like a lot, but with low priced products, it get affiliates motivated.
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    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
      There ya go then ...

      If that's your model, you need RAP.

      There's other solutions to accomplish this and more - but RAP is a solid solution and at a better price point.

      Originally Posted by Chad Eljisr View Post

      Here why I am asking about Rapid Action Profits: It is an affiliate management system and it's so interesting because you can automatically opt your customers into your Aweber mailing list, thus building your list.

      The main purpose here is not just to build your list of buyers but also make money on the back end of your sales funnel. That means you would set the commissions up so that you pay 100% on all front end sales (affiliates getting paid directly at their Paypal account), and 50% on back end offers. It may sound like a lot, but with low priced products, it get affiliates motivated.
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    • Profile picture of the author globalpro
      Originally Posted by Chad Eljisr View Post

      Here why I am asking about Rapid Action Profits: It is an affiliate management system and it's so interesting because you can automatically opt your customers into your Aweber mailing list, thus building your list.
      It works very well for this. You can also set it up for one product on one domain, or multiple products on one domain. Also has the add ons (purchased separately) for Membership sites, WordPress membership sites, etc.

      Originally Posted by Chad Eljisr View Post

      The main purpose here is not just to build your list of buyers but also make money on the back end of your sales funnel. That means you would set the commissions up so that you pay 100% on all front end sales (affiliates getting paid directly at their Paypal account), and 50% on back end offers. It may sound like a lot, but with low priced products, it get affiliates motivated.
      Actually, you can do both. I use RAP for sales and list building, with the giveaways being the big one. Nice to be able to get optins, have an OTO, and it's all automated.

      The thing to remember is RAP is not for everyone and is designed for a certain marketing strategy. If it's fits your plans, then it's definitely money well spent (good investment).

      Plus, once you buy it, you get:

      * unlimited use
      * free upgrades
      * awesome support
      * great users forum (even has it's own skype chat)

      If you have additional questions, feel free to ask here or PM me.

      Thanks,

      John
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    • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
      Hi Chad,

      Originally Posted by Chad Eljisr View Post

      Here why I am asking about Rapid Action Profits: It is an affiliate management system and it's so interesting because you can automatically opt your customers into your Aweber mailing list, thus building your list.
      While there is at least one other script that implements the instant commissions model, RAP is the only one that I know of that also provides the auto opt-in function (whether aWeber or any other auto-responder service/self-hosted auto-responder script).
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  • Profile picture of the author TMJonsson
    It seems to me like Butterfly Marketing 2.0 is worth a mention in this thread also.

    I got a copy when it was 29 dollars last year, and it is a really nice piece of software that has pretty much all of the functionality you are looking for it seems.

    I cannot attest to the ease of use and implementation comparing BFM to RAP, since I have not used RAP.

    But you mentioned you were looking for alternatives... There you go
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    Hi Sid,

    just to educate myself, here is my question: if I take the option to sign up, how is it auto?

    Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
      Hi Istvan,

      Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath View Post

      Hi Sid,

      just to educate myself, here is my question: if I take the option to sign up, how is it auto?

      Thanks!
      Both options exist with RAP.

      RAP Merchants can still put up an opt-in form for visitors to fill out - but CAN-SPAM allows a merchant to contact their customers without the need for an explicit opt-in.

      If you set the auto opt-in option in RAP, it will automatically sign up customers to your autoresponder immediately after the purchase of your product - no optin required.

      Hope this helps,
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  • Profile picture of the author amujtabaa
    SmartDD is a great piece of software, and it's free.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheNightOwl
    Yes, another BIG vote here for SmartDD. I bought the full version, but you can function perfectly well selling up to 5 products with the free version (well, in return for registration opt-in. But don't worry, Frank's a stand up guy. He's a Warrior, too).

    I can't remember what the upgrade costs, but it's nowhere near $300. Seventy, maybe... ???

    Pretty awesome functionality for such a "little" script.

    It doesn't autosubscribe people to your list, but I'm not sure I like this tactic anyway. Give people the choice to opt in and you're bound to get fewer complaints.

    I've also been raving of late about DigitalAccessPass. Don't know what your long-term plans are, but that could be worth a look, too.

    Hope that helps!

    TheNightOwl

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    I bought the RAP script, too, some time ago.
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    Thank you, Sid,

    Yes, it helps. Now I understand it.
    Using the optin form - it's clear how it works.
    As for the auto... if I understand it well you don't need to mess with the Email parsers in the AR?

    I am using a "white label" aweber... and while it has a number of scripts enlisted for Email Parsers, I don't see RAP there.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
      Correct Istvan,

      Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath View Post

      Yes, it helps. Now I understand it.
      Using the optin form - it's clear how it works.
      As for the auto... if I understand it well you don't need to mess with the Email parsers in the AR?

      I am using a "white label" aweber... and while it has a number of scripts enlisted for Email Parsers, I don't see RAP there.
      The Email Parser is (IMHO) a pretty crude interface, and specific to aWeber.

      Rather than writing a different parser for every autoresponder service, it just seemed more appropriate to provide a more standard web interface - rather than having to submit different parsing code to every auto-responder service and depending on them to approve it.

      There are already standard web protocols for form submission that are not dependent on aWeber's definition. As a result, we are able to interface with any autoresponder service/self-hosted script. This provides more flexible options for RAP users, and doesn't restrict them to just aWeber when implementing this feature.
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        • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
          Hey Eye,

          I agree, and there are at least two "RAP marketplace" sites being developed (in addition to the RAP Mall at RAP Mall - Directory Of Instant Commission Products) - but all of them rely on the merchant to list their products with them.

          While I have direct records of all purchasers of RAP... I don't have much more insight into what sites those customers are creating, than you do. It changes every day.

          Just as with CB or PayDotCom.com, the ball is in the merchant's court. If they don't choose to list their product(s) there's little a marketplace can do.

          I will take a more proactive approach, and begin mailing the merchants about the sites where they can list their products, and recruit affiliates for their RAP-driven products.
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          • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
            Hi Everyone,

            Just a quick update on the availability of a RAP Marketplace.
            A new (and very exciting) contender entered the ring late yesterday.
            Originally Posted by Sid Hale View Post

            Hey Eye,

            I agree, and there are at least two "RAP marketplace" sites being developed (in addition to the RAP Mall at RAP Mall - Directory Of Instant Commission Products) - but all of them rely on the merchant to list their products with them.

            Just as with CB or PayDotCom.com, the ball is in the merchant's court. If they don't choose to list their product(s) there's little a marketplace can do.

            I will take a more proactive approach, and begin mailing the merchants about the sites where they can list their products, and recruit affiliates for their RAP-driven products.
            The new RAPBank site (at RAP Bank*Instant Commissions Vault) promises to be very useful in bringing affiliates and merchants with RAP-Driven products together, but that's just the tip of the iceberg.

            Single domain listings for a merchant are free, and products sold from that domain are automatically listed in the marketplace, once the merchant signs up, and installs a RAP Add On to feed the marketplace.

            If you sell products from multiple domains, you can purchase upgrades of 5 (I believe that's the right number) domain listings per upgrade. This is super just for the consolidation of sales reporting from multiple domains into that single RAPBank account.

            Affiliates also join free, and can evaluate products by various ranking criteria (newest items listed, most popular, best performing, etc.), or simply search the site for products that fit their niche market. They can get an affiliate link for all RAP-driven products right there, and because they are all RAP-driven products, they all pay instant commissions to the affiliate.

            I think a key feature, here, is that both merchants and affiliates can have free accounts, and that (unlike the typical product store) the guys at RAPBank aren't "bleeding off" any clicks for themselves. An affiliate does not give up any referrals/commissions by sending prospects through RAPBank.
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  • Profile picture of the author SageSound
    I wanted to know if there are cheaper alternatives, and/or those functionalities could be replicated manually...
    There are some "hidden" benefits of the "instant commission" model in general, and RAP specifically, that don't get discussed much, so I thought I'd take a minute to mention them.

    To begin with, if you're talking about RAP vs. all other sales scripts, the main thing that sets RAP apart is that it pays "instant commissions". Aside from the $7 Secrets Script, I think there may be one other that doees that. So it's a pretty small set of products to choose from right from the get-go.

    The MAIN BENEFIT of instant commission payments is that the Vendor does not collect then disburse the funds. Not only does this benefit you, the Vendor, at tax time, it simplifies all of your accounting activities. That's because customers pay affiliates directly.

    A SECOND BENEFIT of "instant commission" models is that if the Vendor runs into trouble with his PayPal account for some reason, this has ZERO impact on whether Affiliates get paid -- that is, they continue to get paid regardless of what's going on with the Vendor's PP account.

    A THIRD BENEFIT is that it helps reduce risk to Vendors who might be worried about their PP accts getting shut down for some reason by having affiliates get paid directly. Thus, the funds deposited into YOUR PP acct are significantly reduced. If you're paying 100% commissions, that means NONE of the payments land in YOUR PP acct. At 50% commission, only HALF of the payments hit your account. So for people who are concerned about huge surges of payments hitting their PP accts, instant payment scripts are going to be far preferable to other options. This applies to regular purchases as well as recurring subscription payments.

    Speaking of commissions, RAP is also unique in that it offers the ability to set commission rates independently on several different levels:

    * Affiliates
    * JV Partners
    * Tier-1 vs. Tier-2
    * Front-end
    * Back-end (OTO)
    * Equity Partners (up to 2)

    The BENEFIT here lies in the flexibility allowing you to implement a wide range of sales models, way beyond the most obivous ones. The latest update (currently in the oven) will add another entirely new dimension to this, which will in itself create a whole NEW set of business models that, to my knowledge, no other script supports today.

    Finally, RAP has an architecture that support ADDONS. There are currently almost two dozen available from a variety of third parties. The BENEFIT here is that new and innovative features can be developed by third parties and brought to market far quicker than Sid could ever possibly develop them.

    Are there alternative products that offer comparable BENEFITS all in the same package? I don't know of any that even come close.

    -David
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  • Profile picture of the author JJOrana
    I started mine with $7 script. After I made some money, bought RAP.

    With RAP, there's a community to help you out. PLUS, addons that makes the system better and better.

    Sid and the John "globalpro" Burnette are there to assist you.

    See the link in my signature? That sits on RAP and sold $1,761+ copy flawlessly.

    - Jon Orana
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    • Profile picture of the author thmark
      RAP has grown dramatically since I bought it at $47, and it has been well worth the investment.

      Not only does it work well, but it has great support from Sid and the users forum and Skype chat. The caliber of people in the chat is very high.

      The add ons are terrific, and the program is solid.

      After buying BFM when it came out, and dealing with untold issues (the "creator" of BFM would even put up training videos where he couldn't even figure out what was going on with it. I remember one where he said "I have a modified version, I haven't seen this....") I appreciate how Sid keeps on top of RAP, and offers great support.

      Needless to say the time you can waste trying to go cheap can cost you a lot more than the price of a solid platform.
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  • Profile picture of the author DamianLeon
    I think using RAP as a listbuilding technique with the upsell on the back end is Gold as people have mentioned
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