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How difficult to outrank an aged Ezine article

by Spiritjoy
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Do ezinearticles stick or will be it be easy to beat with a new article from ezine or another directory. I see a 2 year old article at 1# and would like to know will ezine put a new article(must you backlink it out or can you) over one of their older ones
thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author RGallowitz
    Did you check how much backlinks the article has?

    To answer your question...YES. You can outrank an Ezinearticles.com article with another article.

    The age of the article does have an effect, but not as much.
    If you SEO your new article better, you'll outrank it.


    To make it really simple, do the following.

    1. Make sure your new article's title is almost the same as the original
    2. Check the keyword density and then make your article's keyword density just a tiny bit more.
    3. Get more backlinks to your article than the first article


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  • Profile picture of the author Groovy99
    Originally Posted by Spiritjoy View Post

    Do ezinearticles stick or will be it be easy to beat with a new article from ezine or another directory. I see a 2 year old article at 1# and would like to know will ezine put a new article(must you backlink it out or can you) over one of their older ones
    thanks
    I was doing a backlink analysis of a website today and found that aged ezinearticles.com articles I had written two years ago were showing up as PR 0.
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    • Profile picture of the author Spiritjoy
      Thanks guys, apparently it is impossible to check how many links an ezine article has. If you check the baclink checkers they don't show ezinearticles links. I may be wrong I think google now hides ezine links. Others have also commented on this
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    • Profile picture of the author affilcrazy
      This doesn't specifically answer your question, but i have often seen 2 articles from exactly same article directory or 2 pages from exactly the same web 2.0 property ranking right next to each other on google.

      I later discovered here at WF that this is a great way to get an article to rank. If you find ONE article from a certain article directory or a single web 2.0 property ranking on page 1 of google, it should be fairly easy to rank right behind it with an article from exactly the same directory or the exact same web 2.0 property! I am unaware if this works with other search engines, but am currently testing!

      So if you find an ezine article all alone ranked on the first page of google for a particular keyword phrase, write an ezine article based around the same keyword and start adding backlinks. The plan is it should be far easier to rank right behind it because google tends to "group" these articles together. Obviously once you are there you can start working on outranking the original!

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      p.s. does this make sense? I just read it back and confused myself! :confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author Dean Shainin
        With my experience I've noticed once my article stays in #1 with over 10,000 views at EzineArticles it can be really tough to bump it out. I've tried for fun to try and bump my own article to #2 by writing and submitting another article using the same keywords that I think is written better but the original article stays in #1. I have an article with over 250,000 views and it has stayed in #1 for over 2 years now. I would think by now someone would have been able to bump it out of #1 with or without EA. I've tried other techniques to test other methods to get into #1 for the same keyword without success.
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        • Profile picture of the author Colin Theriot
          Originally Posted by Burtgummer View Post

          I haven't had the same experience. I've done what you've said actually because I thought the same thing. The EZA article still sits on the first page, and my website is buried deep in the results.

          I don't think Google dislikes EZA. I've had a few articles make it past some significant websites for fairly competitive keywords. That's why I thought article marketing is so popular. An EZA article already has some "juice" behind it when it's published, whereas a new website/domain will not. You might be able to outrank it in the long run with consistent backlinking to your webpage, but that EZA article will be easier to rank for that keyword quickly and with not nearly as much effort as the new website.
          I couldn't really say why we had different experiences, though it's true we're talking about potentially kajillions of variables here. Everything you say is true, but I didn't say how long it would take, but rather that it was easy. I mean, if you're doing pure bum marketing, you won't be making money too fast anyways. In the long run, why give anything to EZA at all?

          Originally Posted by Spiritjoy View Post

          This is a great answer and i learned from it but why does Angela (from backlinks fame) have an article with thousands of backlinks on it. She backlinks the heck out of her articles and she is the Queen of backlinks.
          I dunno - does she use it in sales material? Maybe so she can have a public facing object which proves she can get backlinks without exposing a niche? I dunno I'm just guessing. You'd have to ask her. But I'm sure that she probably gets more results from backlinking her own sites over backlinking to articles. Maybe she did that example to prove to newbies they don't need their own site? Again, all speculation. I have no idea. I just know what I'd rather do myself.

          Originally Posted by Dean Shainin View Post

          With my experience I've noticed once my article stays in #1 with over 10,000 views at EzineArticles it can be really tough to bump it out. I've tried for fun to try and bump my own article to #2 by writing and submitting another article using the same keywords that I think is written better but the original article stays in #1. I have an article with over 250,000 views and it has stayed in #1 for over 2 years now. I would think by now someone would have been able to bump it out of #1 with or without EA. I've tried other techniques to test other methods to get into #1 for the same keyword without success.
          This is interesting. I'll have to think about this one, because my experience isn't the same, but we're not talking about the same view counts, and I've never really tried to bump an ezine article with another ezine article. I always try to bump it with my own sites. Note, it doesn't always work for a particular search I may be targeting, but the work it takes to attempt that naturally makes the whole mini-site rank for lots of other related keywords incidentally. So my report of "success" as far as getting ad clicks and the odd affiliate sale have a lot to do with that as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Theriot
    The problem with Bum marketing is that if you write an article for Ezine that ranks on page 1, you could just have easily put it on your OWN website instead, quickly outranked the eZine copy, and then you could have put your OWN ads on it instead of giving eZine anything.

    And if you find an eZine article that has a lot of backlinks, gosh. I just don't even know what to say to someone who would build backlinks to eZine if you don't work for eZine.

    Google does NOT see article directories the same way it sees Wikipedia. If there's an article about something on WP, Google gives it PREFERENCE. If you're seeing an article directory article, that means that Google hasn't found ANY OTHER SITE with better information than in a dumb old generalized article directory.

    If you see an ezine article ranking on page 1, if it looks like it could make money, grab that article, and 10 more on the same topic, stick them all in a blogger blog with ads on it. Grab the RSS feed and syndicate it, and start getting backlinks. You'll have no trouble outranking the article directory in the serps. The article directories are really the last thing Google wants to show you. Google knows they're poor quality.

    But then again, if you're a conspiracy theorist, since the article is crappy, how likely is it the user will click away from the article directory via an AdSense ad instead of backing up to Google again? Google gets paid for one and not the other, so why WOULDN'T they rank article directories higher. But even if that's true, why HELP the article directories get money off your hard work.

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    • Profile picture of the author Spiritjoy
      Originally Posted by Colin Theriot View Post

      The problem with Bum marketing is that if you write an article for Ezine that ranks on page 1, you could just have easily put it on your OWN website instead, quickly outranked the eZine copy, and then you could have put your OWN ads on it instead of giving eZine anything.

      And if you find an eZine article that has a lot of backlinks, gosh. I just don't even know what to say to someone who would build backlinks to eZine if you don't work for eZine.

      Google does NOT see article directories the same way it sees Wikipedia. If there's an article about something on WP, Google gives it PREFERENCE. If you're seeing an article directory article, that means that Google hasn't found ANY OTHER SITE with better information than in a dumb old generalized article directory.

      If you see an ezine article ranking on page 1, if it looks like it could make money, grab that article, and 10 more on the same topic, stick them all in a blogger blog with ads on it. Grab the RSS feed and syndicate it, and start getting backlinks. You'll have no trouble outranking the article directory in the serps. The article directories are really the last thing Google wants to show you. Google knows they're poor quality.

      But then again, if you're a conspiracy theorist, since the article is crappy, how likely is it the user will click away from the article directory via an AdSense ad instead of backing up to Google again? Google gets paid for one and not the other, so why WOULDN'T they rank article directories higher. But even if that's true, why HELP the article directories get money off your hard work.

      Make your own site.
      This is a great answer and i learned from it but why does Angela (from backlinks fame) have an article with thousands of backlinks on it. She backlinks the heck out of her articles and she is the Queen of backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Burtgummer
      Originally Posted by Colin Theriot View Post

      The problem with Bum marketing is that if you write an article for Ezine that ranks on page 1, you could just have easily put it on your OWN website instead, quickly outranked the eZine copy, and then you could have put your OWN ads on it instead of giving eZine anything.

      And if you find an eZine article that has a lot of backlinks, gosh. I just don't even know what to say to someone who would build backlinks to eZine if you don't work for eZine.

      Google does NOT see article directories the same way it sees Wikipedia. If there's an article about something on WP, Google gives it PREFERENCE. If you're seeing an article directory article, that means that Google hasn't found ANY OTHER SITE with better information than in a dumb old generalized article directory.

      If you see an ezine article ranking on page 1, if it looks like it could make money, grab that article, and 10 more on the same topic, stick them all in a blogger blog with ads on it. Grab the RSS feed and syndicate it, and start getting backlinks. You'll have no trouble outranking the article directory in the serps. The article directories are really the last thing Google wants to show you. Google knows they're poor quality.

      But then again, if you're a conspiracy theorist, since the article is crappy, how likely is it the user will click away from the article directory via an AdSense ad instead of backing up to Google again? Google gets paid for one and not the other, so why WOULDN'T they rank article directories higher. But even if that's true, why HELP the article directories get money off your hard work.

      Make your own site.
      I haven't had the same experience. I've done what you've said actually because I thought the same thing. The EZA article still sits on the first page, and my website is buried deep in the results.

      I don't think Google dislikes EZA. I've had a few articles make it past some significant websites for fairly competitive keywords. That's why I thought article marketing is so popular. An EZA article already has some "juice" behind it when it's published, whereas a new website/domain will not. You might be able to outrank it in the long run with consistent backlinking to your webpage, but that EZA article will be easier to rank for that keyword quickly and with not nearly as much effort as the new website.
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      • Profile picture of the author Spiritjoy
        Originally Posted by Burtgummer View Post

        I haven't had the same experience. I've done what you've said actually because I thought the same thing. The EZA article still sits on the first page, and my website is buried deep in the results.

        I don't think Google dislikes EZA. I've had a few articles make it past some significant websites for fairly competitive keywords. That's why I thought article marketing is so popular. An EZA article already has some "juice" behind it when it's published, whereas a new website/domain will not. You might be able to outrank it in the long run with consistent backlinking to your webpage, but that EZA article will be easier to rank for that keyword quickly and with not nearly as much effort as the new website.
        I have also had my site on the same page as an ezinearticle but the ezinearticle takes little effort to be on top . Maybe I have not done heavy enough backlinks on my site but again Angela still uses her articles with heavy backlinks to the article.
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  • Profile picture of the author chika138
    Sorry to bump a year old thread I am just wondering if it's possible to outrank Google Maps with article directories for local keywords?
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