Question about buying Apple Computers from Wholesalers in China

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I have always purchased my Mac computers directly from the official apple website. However, I am wondering how wholesale companies in China can offer laptops at such reduced rates. I'm assuming they are copies, or clones, but how would anyone know this for sure? Has anyone ever bought an Apple computer from a wholesaler? It is my understanding that you have to be a licensed reseller in order to sell Apple products.

Here is where I found the wholesale item listed online:

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This site looks suspiciously like eBay. I'm curious as to how to realistically evaluate this type of site and the items they have listed. I'm just starting out researching wholesale suppliers, so please be patient with me as I ask some pretty naive questions. I am hoping to combine an online business with the sale of supplies offline, but I really have no idea as to where to begin, so any comments or suggestions would be greatefully appreciated.

(Also, I have tried several times to sign up for Mac Affiliate programs, but my website doesn't qualify. I want to deal strictly with Macs, so that's why I am focussing on finding acceptable, bona fide products for resale.)
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    I don't find any mention of ATOM on APPLE'S site. I haven't heard of them selling XP. NO APPLE_AIR! NO 13.3! The reviews are suspicious, and some reviews are IDENTICAL even though the reviewer is suposedly different.

    So this does ***NOT*** look like a wholesaler, but MAYBE a knockoff. Maybe not even THAT!

    BTW http://blogs.computerworld.com/15069..._10_6_2_update

    http://www.siliconvalleywatcher.com/..._snubbed_i.php

    So a LOT of things point to that laptop as NOT being an apple product AND, if it happened to be, it couldn't be used as one!

    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author Darren Tan
      Hi Val,

      I'll be direct, no branded electronics will ever sell for low prices in any countries especially China.

      Take for example IPhone, direct from factory is still USD $1100, so just forget about getting authentic electronics from China.

      Hope it helps.

      Regards,
      Darren
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  • Profile picture of the author zoobie
    I doubt there is such a source exits. Think about it, if Apple finds this out, the manufacturer probably lose the contracts and may be getting sued as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      I think that Apple only sells through authorized resellers.

      That particular wholesale listing does not look legit at all. The fact that they are selling it with Windows as the OS suggests that it is a knock-off. An actual Apple computer would come with Mac OS X as the default.

      The hardware specs don't even match the MacBook Air. The MacBook Air uses an Intel Core 2 Duo processor, not an Intel ATOM chip. The MacBook Air uses a NVIDIA GeForce display card, while this supposed MacBook Air uses an Intel GME945 display card. The MacBook Air has DVI video out, whereas the supposed MacBook Air does not. The MacBook Air claims a 5 hour battery life, while the supposed MacBook Air offers only 2.5 hours.

      So, I'd say it's a pretty sure bet that it is a knock-off.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
    Actually Mac does get work done in China so it could be legitimate. Here is a thread you reminded me of where someone ordered a Mac and they wanted to delay the delivery because something he wanted, they wanted to have installed in China.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ike-apple.html

    Here's a quote from the thread.

    Originally Posted by Devan Koshal View Post

    Apple's products are designed and developed in America but are manufactured in China.
    I am pretty impressed with the WF search. Found it first try, and it's my second good experience in a row with it.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by Lloyd Buchinski View Post

      Actually Mac does get work done in China so it could be legitimate.
      It is DEFINITELY not 100% legitimate. Apple has not only NOT used ATOM, they specifically disabled compatibility to prevent people from using it as a platform. Besides, they are NOT known for using cheap processors.

      Even their low end products use the ARM processors from a company they bought about 2 years ago.

      Heck, the only thing I saw that really looked like they were trying to look like apple were some pictures.(Using some terms, like apple_air is an old asian trick. I've seen a lot of documentaries and all about how some brands come up with names that sound similar, EVEN for consumables light meat or lightbulbs. So you have to watch it.) Even the keyboard on that system looks different, different color, has the windows open key, etc.... BTW the BOX claims it is a macbook air. A macbook air looks VERY different. Has a core 2 duo processor, and only a 120 or 128GB disk option.

      So I don't see how it could be legit. Too many things just don't add up.

      Oh, and what Dan C. Rinnert said is true also.

      Val S,

      Apple has a nice reputation, and they don't want to hurt it. You will probably find it hard to become an authorized dealer. They would likely want proof of a market, proof of your ability to sell to the market, proof of credit, etc.... It looks like WALMART doesn't even sell macs! I guess apple liked amazon though. THEY are selling a REAL macbook air for about $1707

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  • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
    Val S.

    There is one thing you're missing. Anytime you buy from outside of the US, and have it mailed here, you will be charged by US customs for import duties (not to mention state and local taxes which you're responsible for as well).

    That low price you're looking at is going to go up exponentially, and possibly may be more expensive than buying it from the Apple Store.

    How to know for sure? The best way is to make a test purchase, and see what you get. If it works out, you got a helluva source. If it doesn't, now you know, and can warn others.

    Heck, I've seen stuff like this work out where people bought chinese made ATI graphics cards, did a quick reflash of the bios, and suddenly they had a top performing graphics card that would have cost hundreds more if bought locally. I've aslo seen people get burnt like toast, so tread carefully and cautiously.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      More clues that it is a knock-off...

      The MacBook Air was introduced in an aluminum case. It is still made in an aluminum case. It was not and is not available in a plastic white case.

      The purported MacBook Air has a Windows keyboard.

      The MacBook Air does not have a user-removable battery.

      The MacBook Air comes with a MagSafe power adapter and cable. The purported MacBook Air's power adapter and plug is not a MagSafe plug.

      In my opinion, this is definitely not a legitimate Apple product.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    Having lived in both China and Hong Kong, even buying an Apple from the Apple shop in HK doesn't mean you have an original product. Friends in HK have bought iphones and paid top prices for them, and within a short period (less than 6 months) they are broken. They went to the Apple store to buy these phones.

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  • Profile picture of the author noodle2005
    You cannot buy genuine branded electronic wholesale goods from china. I dont care if they are manufactured in china, you will not find a wholesaler who is selling genuine original branded electronics in china, they dont exist

    Oh and dont even get me started on Ugg boots
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Peters Benn
    Oh dear. Before you know it, some enterprising individual will try and import these 'genuine' electronics. I feel sorry for those who get genuinely stung by these shameless counterfeits.
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  • Profile picture of the author I.M.Retired
    Thanks everyone for the information. I had no idea as to how to evaluate this product but I knew instinctively that it was too good to be true. I removed the link from the original post so that no one gets taken in by this listing.

    I so want to become a reseller for Apple products, especially laptops. Living so far from the city its very difficult to get certified as Apple anything, let alone a reseller.

    I guess I have a lot more homework to do, but I do appreciate everyone's input on that listing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
      Originally Posted by Val.S. View Post

      Thanks everyone for the information. I had no idea as to how to evaluate this product but I knew instinctively that it was too good to be true. I removed the link from the original post so that no one gets taken in by this listing.

      I so want to become a reseller for Apple products, especially laptops. Living so far from the city its very difficult to get certified as Apple anything, let alone a reseller.

      I guess I have a lot more homework to do, but I do appreciate everyone's input on that listing.
      Can I ask a question?

      A lot of these apple retailers (like Amazon) have affiliate programs. Have you looked into that angle?
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  • Profile picture of the author Recession_Proof
    Hey Val.S

    Not saying that it can't happen, because you can become a reseller of legit Apple products, BUT it is costly. You need at least $100K to get in with them.

    BUT if it is your passion and you are hellbent on selling apple hardware then follow those dreams. And it will start with a call to Apple itself.

    Remember, when sourcing products go to the horses mouth. Okay?

    That being said:

    Here is a WF link, recently posted on that. Just a little extra info for you ok.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...pshippers.html

    I know, I know. You just want to sell all the sexy Apple products huh? (said lightheartedly with a big cheesy smile)

    I speak from experience. I do nothing else BUT dropship. I have sold advertising for Verizon, newspapers you name it. Nothing comes close to selling hardware though and believe me there is enough hardware to go around....Just not enough Apples!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author jayalaxmi
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    Originally Posted by Val.S. View Post

    I have always purchased my Mac computers directly from the official apple website. However, I am wondering how wholesale companies in China can offer laptops at such reduced rates. I'm assuming they are copies, or clones, but how would anyone know this for sure? Has anyone ever bought an Apple computer from a wholesaler? It is my understanding that you have to be a licensed reseller in order to sell Apple products.

    Here is where I found the wholesale item listed online:

    (Link Removed)

    This site looks suspiciously like eBay. I'm curious as to how to realistically evaluate this type of site and the items they have listed. I'm just starting out researching wholesale suppliers, so please be patient with me as I ask some pretty naive questions. I am hoping to combine an online business with the sale of supplies offline, but I really have no idea as to where to begin, so any comments or suggestions would be greatefully appreciated.

    (Also, I have tried several times to sign up for Mac Affiliate programs, but my website doesn't qualify. I want to deal strictly with Macs, so that's why I am focussing on finding acceptable, bona fide products for resale.)

    they are duplicate mac's .china not only manufactures mac's but also each and everything duplicate's .they look like original ones but there will be deficiency in quality.for example in china you can get 3g mobiles for just $50 but they explode like anything if you charge the mobile for more than 45 mins.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Apple's products are manufactured in China by Hon Hai Precision Industry Co., Ltd, (aka Foxconn), as well as are many other name brand products such as HP, Dell, Motorola, IBM, etc. Anyone can buy these genuine products, but you would never be able to sell them legally as genuine in the US or most other countries. The Chinese will sell to anyone, but if they are brand labeled, customs will sieze them at the port, and you have no recourse.

      This topic was discussed in depth in another thread:

      http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...olesalers.html
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
    Just to point out something recent posters may have overlooked...

    This thread is one year old.

    We should maybe just wish the thread a happy birthday or something.
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