Been doing this for about a year!

by thedyingmarketer 32 replies
Been involved in this industry for over a year now! I need some help

Someone help me please!!! I know you have been there!
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  • Profile picture of the author julesbrad
    I will definitely not try to sell to you

    but

    I will ask, what are you trying to sell ?

    Let us see what you are doing (do you have a website) so that you may receive some free advice
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    • Profile picture of the author thedyingmarketer
      cash programs for starters
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      • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
        Originally Posted by thedyingmarketer View Post

        Well, no wonder you can't make any money....that thing has scam wrote all over it.

        It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the problem. Instead of building an actual business, you're busy promoting 'opportunities'.

        STOP IMMEDIATELY! This isn't a business, it's a moneysuck.

        Here's the definition of a business: An entity that sell a product or service people want, and a price they are willing to pay.

        Figure out how to build one of those, and you'll be on the right path.
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    • Profile picture of the author oregongal
      I feel your pain. I was slow to make money at this also. I felt like I had to read and digest everything! I know that most new marketers buy everything and there's so much information that you end up suffering from information overload!

      Why don't you share what you have tried so far so people know better how to advise you.
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  • Profile picture of the author thedyingmarketer
    PPC, Article Submission, Website Submission, Ad Blaster, FFA, To be honest I Am Suffering from INFORMATION OVERLOAD! Sorry For THE caps... I am at wits end!
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by thedyingmarketer View Post

      PPC, Article Submission, Website Submission, Ad Blaster, FFA, To be honest I Am Suffering from INFORMATION OVERLOAD! Sorry For THE caps... I am at wits end!
      Not to sound negative but there is NO reason why you shouldn't be making a Profit by now !!

      There is no secret to this. And there are literally hundreds of different ways to make money.

      Example : Why don't you go to Clickbank pick out a product or topic that you have some knowledge and interest about. Then go get a Free Blogger and start Posting about your topic. And put some affiliate Ads on the side to monetize it. And just Post content everyday with unique and relevant stuff. And use good keywords relating to your Blog theme. Also , build up backlinks using Article Submissions to EZA and do some Blog Commenting with signature anchor text.

      After doing this and posting Quality content EVERYDAY (with Pinging) for 1 year the Money will start rolling in
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisByrns
    1) pick a niche or product you're comfortable with. ..trying to sell a product you don't know jackshit about won't get you far.
    2) create a blog about that subject and write some quality content, y'know, stuff that really helps people who are interested in that kind of product.
    2.1) update daily with quality blog posts.
    3) join an affiliate network and promote niche-related products on your blog
    4) promote your blog via social-bookmarking sites, articles, blog directories and commenting on related blogs.

    something like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author tommyfocus
    Wow! I feel your frustration. Maybe you need to go back to the drawing board and find some new niches to promote. I have learned that 95% of all marketing failures occur at the research level. I would say don't give up. There are to many people on here that are making money for you to develop an "I can't make it" attitude. Find some one that is successful and go back and read ALL of there post. Model what they did. Establish a relationship on the board and ask "how to" question on the board.
    Hope this helps!!
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  • Profile picture of the author write-stuff
    I guess you got me totally confused. Your website touts you as a marketing expert...
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    • Profile picture of the author oregongal
      I also wanted to point out that selling Im products is one of the hardest niches to promote, especially for a beginner.

      I started with a free blogger blog and researched a niche to get content, wrote articles and got lots of advice! I think the thing is is to focus on one thing at a time. If you try article marketing, keep at it. It means submitting lots of articles and tracking them to see how you do. A scattered approach is not very effective.

      LIke others have said, read the forum to get information and then ask specific questions. There really is so much opportunity, it is staggering.
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  • Profile picture of the author thedyingmarketer
    I am Not an Expert!!!! There is great content and strategies for marketing.... The creator of the program is
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    • Profile picture of the author write-stuff
      Originally Posted by thedyingmarketer View Post

      I am Not an Expert!!!! Thats Why I Am Broke!!! The Creator Of The So Called Marketing Powerhouse Jason Pearson Is!! There is great content and strategies for marketing....But my newbie butt just CAN"T seem to comprehend! I Am A Freaking Failure!
      Hehe... Ok, I guess I thought YOU were Jason Pearson (whoever he is). Time for a new niche I suppose.

      My only question for you is are you getting enough traffic? If not, there's your first problem. If you are getting the traffic, I'd try designing a different landing page and see if it works better. I trust you're using Statcounter or Google Analytics or something like them to study your traffic.

      Better luck for next year!
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
      Originally Posted by thedyingmarketer View Post

      I am Not an Expert!!!! Thats Why I Am Broke!!! The Creator Of The So Called Marketing Powerhouse Jason Pearson Is!! There is great content and strategies for marketing....But my newbie butt just CAN"T seem to comprehend! I Am A Freaking Failure!
      Looks like your mind-set has a lot to do with this, and no- I don't think another Ebook is the answer.

      Maybe it is time to take stock in what you have done so far, evaluate your strengths and weaknesses, and yes- go back to the drawing board.

      It took me about 6 months to earn my first $100 online, and a year to break a thousand.

      All the Ebooks in the world are worthless unless you act.

      Best!
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
        Originally Posted by Eric Lorence View Post

        Looks like your mind-set has a lot to do with this, and no- I don't think another Ebook is the answer.

        Maybe it is time to take stock in what you have done so far, evaluate your strengths and weaknesses, and yes- go back to the drawing board.
        I agree. There is also something wrong with selling "how to make money" stuff when you don't know how to do that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
      Originally Posted by thedyingmarketer View Post

      I am Not an Expert!!!! Thats Why I Am Broke!!! The Creator Of The So Called Marketing Powerhouse Jason Pearson Is!! There is great content and strategies for marketing....But my newbie butt just CAN"T seem to comprehend! I Am A Freaking Failure!
      This is so typical. Newbie marketer complains about how sick and tired he is of being sold stuff, and wonders why he can't sell anything himself.

      Then he openly shows the world that he is trying to promote a money making product. Jeez, the irony and contradiction barometer is about to freaking well explode.

      Sorry man, but your "problem" is recycled through your own activity. In other words, if there were less people touting programs they clearly know nothing about, then perhaps it would be easier for more people like yourself (newbies) to actually learn something real.

      No offense, but the irony is too much to bite my lip over.
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  • Profile picture of the author thedyingmarketer
    Thanks for pointing me in the right direction! Thanks for the help!
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
      Originally Posted by thedyingmarketer View Post

      Thanks for the help!!! I see What I am dealing with... I am just a goldfish in a pond of sharks! Thanks for you crappy criticism! That will surely point me in the right direction!
      I rest my case.
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    • Profile picture of the author Adam Kenzington
      Hey Dying Marketer,

      Your attitude stinks! Even your user name reflects it. These "Sharks" as you refer to them are trying to give you some tough love, here. You are trying to sell people a dream that you are not a part of. "Do this, and you'll earn this". But you haven't been able to follow this advice to a good financial conclusion, yourself, and people can tell when you are incongruient with your message.

      So, I'm going to outline a plan for you to follow, OK? I'm not going to try to sell you anything. This is all free.

      First, a question for you. What do you love to do? When you have the free time and can do whatever you want, what is that?

      What is the best/favorite part of that? That is your niche.

      Next, you said you tried article writing. Write 10 articles about the different facets of your afore-mentioned passion. Ex.: The 7 Things..., The 3 Things to Avoid..., The Best Way/Place to..., How To Get the Best...

      Submit these articles to the Free Article Sites with a blurb in your signature file about "if you would like more information, go here: www.mysite.com . Or, maybe offer these as a WSO on this forum with PLR rights.

      When people come to your site (squeeze page) for more info, capture there contact info (and if possible have a questionaire, so your new list can tell you what they want. Then give it to them!) and you have now started your list. You can have an Affiliate product to offer that fits well with your niche, and a newsletter with more ideas, etc...

      Now, take the 10 articles and create an e-book. Each article is a chapter in the book. Flesh it out a little, and you now have your own product to sell.

      Approach your "compatition" and offer your e-book as a back-end product that they can offer on their Thank You or OTO page. You give them 75% commission on this. (are you paying attention, goldfish? I'm giving you the teeth to swim with the sharks, here!)

      These sales made from the back-end offers of your compatition are putting money in your pocket and added to your list (paying customers=best list possible)... Research your niche even further and get more ideas for articles (responses from questionaire are best), which become books, etc...

      Lather, Rinse, Repeat... That's the outline. Once you have the first business on auto-pilot, branch out into another niche.

      There are some in-between steps I glossed over, like keyword research to optimize your website for organic search engine ranking, etc...

      None of this will cost you a penny. Just time. Soon you will be one of the sharks, shaking your head at the rantings of a frustrated goldfish.

      Seriously, man, this is a very workable plan. The Warriors here are willing to help you, but a lot of it has to do with your attitude. Going postal isn't going to help anything, as is whining about the crappy criticism. Get a little thicker skin, ask a few more questions when you get stuck, and let's make some money!

      Come on man, you can do this!

      Adam

      PS: Think about changing your user name. You only have a few posts credited to it, anyway. Let's get that positive attitude working for you
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      • Profile picture of the author Pete223
        Originally Posted by Adam Kenzington View Post

        Hey Dying Marketer,

        Your attitude stinks! Even your user name reflects it. These "Sharks" as you refer to them are trying to give you some tough love, here. You are trying to sell people a dream that you are not a part of. "Do this, and you'll earn this". But you haven't been able to follow this advice to a good financial conclusion, yourself, and people can tell when you are incongruient with your message.

        So, I'm going to outline a plan for you to follow, OK? I'm not going to try to sell you anything. This is all free.

        First, a question for you. What do you love to do? When you have the free time and can do whatever you want, what is that?

        What is the best/favorite part of that? That is your niche.

        Next, you said you tried article writing. Write 10 articles about the different facets of your afore-mentioned passion. Ex.: The 7 Things..., The 3 Things to Avoid..., The Best Way/Place to..., How To Get the Best...

        Submit these articles to the Free Article Sites with a blurb in your signature file about "if you would like more information, go here: www.mysite.com . Or, maybe offer these as a WSO on this forum with PLR rights.

        When people come to your site (squeeze page) for more info, capture there contact info (and if possible have a questionaire, so your new list can tell you what they want. Then give it to them!) and you have now started your list. You can have an Affiliate product to offer that fits well with your niche, and a newsletter with more ideas, etc...

        Now, take the 10 articles and create an e-book. Each article is a chapter in the book. Flesh it out a little, and you now have your own product to sell.

        Approach your "compatition" and offer your e-book as a back-end product that they can offer on their Thank You or OTO page. You give them 75% commission on this. (are you paying attention, goldfish? I'm giving you the teeth to swim with the sharks, here!)

        These sales made from the back-end offers of your compatition are putting money in your pocket and added to your list (paying customers=best list possible)... Research your niche even further and get more ideas for articles (responses from questionaire are best), which become books, etc...

        Lather, Rinse, Repeat... That's the outline. Once you have the first business on auto-pilot, branch out into another niche.

        There are some in-between steps I glossed over, like keyword research to optimize your website for organic search engine ranking, etc...

        None of this will cost you a penny. Just time. Soon you will be one of the sharks, shaking your head at the rantings of a frustrated goldfish.

        Seriously, man, this is a very workable plan. The Warriors here are willing to help you, but a lot of it has to do with your attitude. Going postal isn't going to help anything, as is whining about the crappy criticism. Get a little thicker skin, ask a few more questions when you get stuck, and let's make some money!

        Come on man, you can do this!

        Adam

        PS: Think about changing your user name. You only have a few posts credited to it, anyway. Let's get that positive attitude working for you
        Adam, I think the problem with this solution is this
        sounds a lot like work!!!

        And when you look closely at what these "goldfish"'
        bought into... most of the times it's the old
        no work, $1 000's per day, umbrella drinks by
        the beach while you get rich type deals...

        And we all know where those lead...

        Regards, Pete
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      • Profile picture of the author Vyliss
        I was also going to say, there is just no way thedyingmarketer is going to follow through with this if he isn't making any money at all doing what he doing at the moment.

        That is a LOT of work, not only that there are a lot of in between steps that could make or break moving onto the next part.. for example the passion into niche area can go TERRIBLY wrong depending on what he is passionate about.

        Best to stick with what works (health, relationship, making money niche) break them down into subniche, then research the hell out of who these people are and know enough to sell them the right solution to their problem.

        Also ever thought perhaps his article would suck and no one would even want them packaged into ebooks? Btw articles are articles, ebooks and ebooks, you can't really put a bunch of articles together and make me believe that is some valuable ebook. Just my 2c about that.

        Like I said, go with a niche that you know works (NOT making money one), find a subniche with that niche that is highly targeted, pick some products around that niche, make a squidoo lens, review a bunch of these products, write 10 articles submit them to Ezine linking to your lens.. TRACK YOUR RESULTS.. adjust your lens/articles accordingly for better output next time. Do this until you're making money THEN start looking at other ideas for making faster/better money.

        Originally Posted by Adam Kenzington View Post

        Hey Dying Marketer,

        Your attitude stinks! Even your user name reflects it. These "Sharks" as you refer to them are trying to give you some tough love, here. You are trying to sell people a dream that you are not a part of. "Do this, and you'll earn this". But you haven't been able to follow this advice to a good financial conclusion, yourself, and people can tell when you are incongruient with your message.

        So, I'm going to outline a plan for you to follow, OK? I'm not going to try to sell you anything. This is all free.

        First, a question for you. What do you love to do? When you have the free time and can do whatever you want, what is that?

        What is the best/favorite part of that? That is your niche.

        Next, you said you tried article writing. Write 10 articles about the different facets of your afore-mentioned passion. Ex.: The 7 Things..., The 3 Things to Avoid..., The Best Way/Place to..., How To Get the Best...

        Submit these articles to the Free Article Sites with a blurb in your signature file about "if you would like more information, go here: www.mysite.com . Or, maybe offer these as a WSO on this forum with PLR rights.

        When people come to your site (squeeze page) for more info, capture there contact info (and if possible have a questionaire, so your new list can tell you what they want. Then give it to them!) and you have now started your list. You can have an Affiliate product to offer that fits well with your niche, and a newsletter with more ideas, etc...

        Now, take the 10 articles and create an e-book. Each article is a chapter in the book. Flesh it out a little, and you now have your own product to sell.

        Approach your "compatition" and offer your e-book as a back-end product that they can offer on their Thank You or OTO page. You give them 75% commission on this. (are you paying attention, goldfish? I'm giving you the teeth to swim with the sharks, here!)

        These sales made from the back-end offers of your compatition are putting money in your pocket and added to your list (paying customers=best list possible)... Research your niche even further and get more ideas for articles (responses from questionaire are best), which become books, etc...

        Lather, Rinse, Repeat... That's the outline. Once you have the first business on auto-pilot, branch out into another niche.

        There are some in-between steps I glossed over, like keyword research to optimize your website for organic search engine ranking, etc...

        None of this will cost you a penny. Just time. Soon you will be one of the sharks, shaking your head at the rantings of a frustrated goldfish.

        Seriously, man, this is a very workable plan. The Warriors here are willing to help you, but a lot of it has to do with your attitude. Going postal isn't going to help anything, as is whining about the crappy criticism. Get a little thicker skin, ask a few more questions when you get stuck, and let's make some money!

        Come on man, you can do this!

        Adam

        PS: Think about changing your user name. You only have a few posts credited to it, anyway. Let's get that positive attitude working for you
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    • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
      Originally Posted by thedyingmarketer View Post

      Thanks for the help!!! I see What I am dealing with... I am just a goldfish in a pond of sharks! Thanks for you crappy criticism! That will surely point me in the right direction!
      With an attitude like that, you won't find much help here, or anywhere.

      It's no one else's job to hand you anything on a silver platter.

      If you want to know why you can't sell anything, look at what you're selling. If you sell a crappy product, you will get crappy results.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jenni Mac
        I understand what you're going through, I'm coming around to a 1yr doing this and I've only now just started to make sales.

        You have to find a strand of IM that YOU can work and work it like there's no tomorrow, mine is article marketing and you don't need no money for that, just dedication and time - I'm up to 5 articles a day now.

        You might want to calm down, check your attitude and listen to what people are saying here. They are top people and will help you if you listen and approach them with an ounce of respect and manners.

        I wish you luck and hope you take the advice from those who are offering it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Marian Berghes
          dude...just a quick tip..youre broke and you want to work hard to get money?

          go sing up for associated content...write 10 articles a day...you will get at least 3$ per article on upfront payment...that 30$/day...and you have ~1000$/month

          You can do this until you actually find your niche and start a small business there.

          The second thing would be...go to clickbank, pick 3-5 products that have moderate gravity...do research on keywords on each of them, make a free blog with a review of the product in it...start cracking out articles everyday about each product.

          These are simple to implement methods...of course there could be more to tell but this is the basic stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author DaniMc
    Dude...start a site about anything. Anything at all besides money.

    Bust your ass until you can get 100 unique visitors per day.

    By then...you will have learned so, so much.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce NewMedia
    I don't get it...

    You're selling a program that claims people make $400 to $1000 A DAY!...ok, my question is, have you tried the program you're selling?????
    Have you asked THEM (your sponsors) for some support?
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  • Profile picture of the author Yoseph101
    Dig into this sight and youll find everything you need to be succesful, but I wouldnt recommend it if your broke since a business will take months before being profitable.
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  • Profile picture of the author thedyingmarketer
    These are some great ideas. Any pointers on getting free quality traffic?
    Thanks for the input?
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    • Profile picture of the author Adam Kenzington
      Originally Posted by thedyingmarketer View Post

      These are some great ideas. Any pointers on getting free quality traffic?
      Thanks for the input?
      For some good traffic make a Squidoo lens about your niche subject. Google loves Squidoo and ranks the pages quickly. Include a link to your web page or blog. (go to Squidoo for a ton of tutorials or go to YouTube and watch the many video tutorials there on how to make your own Squidoo Lens).

      Or, if you need some quick cash, link straight to an Affiliate sales page you are promoting from your Squidoo Lens. This will bypass the list building process, so you'll be losing out on building your list, but by Pre-Selling on the Squidoo Lens and putting your Affiliate Link in there, the customer is sent straight to the Sales page of the product you are trying to sell (through your Affiliate Link), and you get paid when they buy. Instant Cash!

      You Pre-sell (warm them up to the idea) and then let the product's own sales page do the real selling for you.

      This Pre-sell can be in the form of a "Review Page" where you explain the good AND bad of the product, and then Link them to the sales letter. Cha-Ching!

      One other important thing...Pick some good keywords. (do you know how to research/find them? Let me know if you don't and we can review that in another post) and use these keywords in your Squidoo Title, sub-titles and body copy of your lens. This gets the spiders to crawl all over your page and go tell the search engines "Hey, I found some meaty stuff, here!" All this drives crazy free traffic for you.

      Wow, if I were to take all the info I've put into these posts, flesh it out a little and work it up into a report, add a couple videos showing Keyword Researching, Squidoo Lens creation, etc...I could have a good selling product...UHMMM... *Disregard the loud noise you hear, it's the cogs in my brain turning. :rolleyes: *

      Are you getting any new ideas?

      I hope this helps,

      Adam
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  • Profile picture of the author Terry Hatfield
    Hi,

    If you bought one product and it is not working out then maybe you are getting ripped off and being lied too.

    . . . But

    If you bought many products and are still getting nothing to work then the problem is definitely you.

    Only you can determine what you are doing wrong. Go reread all your courses and decided what steps you skipped or didn't give your all on.

    Success in internet marketing comes down to 3 thrings:

    1. A market where people are buying stuff in
    2. Salesletter that converts prospects into customers
    3. Getting qualified targeted prospects to your website or salespage

    Get those 3 right and you succeed . . get them wrong and you fail miserably!

    Where are you going wrong? You tell us.

    Terry
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Monty
    If you are tired of being marketed to, then stop buying. Stop being the prey and start being the hunter.

    Find a marketing topic that you are passionate about. Dominate it, write about it, and acquire followers.

    That should help you get yourself back on track.
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