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How many times is it "safe" to submit the same article to different article sites?

by mnguyen04
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hello

So with all those article sites out there like eznarticles, weebly, squidoo, wetpaint etc., I was just wondering if how many sites should submit the EXACT same article before it starts becoming spammy?

My plan is to of course rewrite that same article then submit to another chunk of article sites.

thanks ahead of time!!
#article #safe #sites #submit #times
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    You can syndicate your article to as many sites as you would like to know about your quality content. Go crazy...Don't be shy
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    • Profile picture of the author adamv
      How many times can you submit it safely? - How many article sites are there? Submit to as many as you can.
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  • Profile picture of the author Derek Allen
    I submit the same piece of content to every article directory there is. Although, I never submit the same piece the the same directory twice.
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    • Profile picture of the author TCrosby
      I'm confused then, what about the search engines penalizing the articles then for being duplicate content?

      Are you saying that doesnt matter unless you put the same article on your site also?

      Wouldnt it make it harder for articles to rank higher in search engines?
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
        Originally Posted by tman563 View Post

        I'm confused then, what about the search engines penalizing the articles then for being duplicate content?

        Are you saying that doesnt matter unless you put the same article on your site also?

        Wouldnt it make it harder for articles to rank higher in search engines?
        Before anybody else chimes in, I shall make 1 thing clear:

        DUPLICATE CONTENT IS A MYTH

        this has been tested by myself, many others and found to be a complete load of rubbish. Sending the same article to multiple directories in NOT spam, its called syndication.

        If you do a forum search there are numerous threads on the subject.

        If syndication was considered by the search engines as spam, then it would be very easy to eliminate my competitors. All I would have to do is take their article and blast it to as many directories as possible.


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      • Profile picture of the author Gabriel Medeiros
        Originally Posted by tman563 View Post

        I'm confused then, what about the search engines penalizing the articles then for being duplicate content?

        Are you saying that doesnt matter unless you put the same article on your site also?

        Wouldnt it make it harder for articles to rank higher in search engines?
        There are two different situations:

        The first one:

        If want to build backlinks to your site in order to rank well on search engines. Then the best practice is to send the content (after spin at list 30% of it) to as many article directories as possible. But this content must not be in the site you are trying to rank for. Even better if can put the link on the keyword (inside the text body) you are trying to rank for.

        Second one:

        If you just want people to click on your link to see your website or what you are promoting, then just send the same article to as many article directories as possible.
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        • Profile picture of the author RanD
          Originally Posted by Gabriel Medeiros View Post

          There are two different situations:

          The first one:

          If want to build backlinks to your site in order to rank well on search engines. Then the best practice is to send the content (after spin at list 30% of it) to as many article directories as possible. But this content must not be in the site you are trying to rank for. Even better if can put the link on the keyword (inside the text body) you are trying to rank for.
          Right, except for the part that it should not be on your site. That is wrong. All you are doing there is giving the credit of the article to another site other than your own. It's your content and should absolutely be put on your site first. You want your site to be the authority site. You don't want to give that authority away to some article directory. Always post the article to your site first, then to article directories, spun or not. Spinning will most likely get you more juice from those backlinks.

          Originally Posted by Jason Perez O'Connor View Post

          Your site will not suffer if it has the same article either.... google states that you can let them know which site you want them to keep in the search engines by doing redirects, or linking to the predominant sites.

          If google sees the article every where but they all point to your site, it lets them know that your site is the one to rank.

          Jay.
          Now that brings up an interesting question for me.....though it may be nothing. I have always thought spinning was the better option, but that comment made me wonder. Does having the same article at different sites, all pointing back to your site where the article originated, give your site more weight in Googl'e eyes than if they were all spun? Granted, you have a better chance of them getting indexed and ranked for the other sites if they are spun, but then they aren't the same article pointing back to your site anymore.
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          • Profile picture of the author Gabriel Medeiros
            Originally Posted by RanD View Post

            Right, except for the part that it should not be on your site. That is wrong. All you are doing there is giving the credit of the article to another site other than your own. It's your content and should absolutely be put on your site first. You want your site to be the authority site. You don't want to give that authority away to some article directory. Always post the article to your site first, then to article directories, spun or not. Spinning will most likely get you more juice from those backlinks.
            Try this point of view Ran. Google will only rank well unique content. If you have the content on your site and same content on an article directory and you posted the content first in your site and after in a site directory than the most voluble content will be the one in your site, right?! The problem with the same article on the directory is that it will have almost non authority to the search engines (for being duplicated content and posted after the original one).

            If you submit a unique article to the article directory there is a good chance of this article rank well, get some page rank and give even more authority to your main site.

            I would never submit the same article that I have in my site to other directories, only if I have spun that very well.

            I'm not saying that your theory is wrong; I just get better results doing the way I'm explaining here.

            The best way to give authority and get backlinks to the article on your site is to submit it to RSS and Bookmark sites. And off course... write very quality articles.
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            • Profile picture of the author RanD
              Originally Posted by Gabriel Medeiros View Post

              Try this point of view Ran. Google will only rank well unique content. If you have the content on your site and same content on an article directory and you posted the content first in your site and after in a site directory than the most voluble content will be the one in your site, right?! The problem with the same article on the directory is that it will have almost non authority to the search engines (for being duplicated content and posted after the original one).

              If you submit a unique article to the article directory there is a good chance of this article rank well, get some page rank and give even more authority to your main site.

              I would never submit the same article that I have in my site to other directories, only if I have spun that very well.

              I'm not saying that your theory is wrong; I just get better results doing the way I'm explaining here.

              The best way to give authority and get backlinks to the article on your site is to submit it to RSS and Bookmark sites. And off course... write very quality articles.
              As has been said over and over in these forums (and this thread), the duplicate content penalty is a myth. It does not exist. Posting to your site makes you the content creator and originator of the article. It does not take anything away from your article directory. The highest ranking site will still get the higher ranking in Google. Even though I submit to my site first then to Ezine, Ezine still has the #1 spot when I search for my article title. Hopefully that will not always be the case.

              By the way, it's not my theory. This topic has been discussed over and over by all the big wigs on these forums. There are experts on here that have done extensive testing on this.

              Here's a thread that you might want to check out.

              Article on site or EZA first?


              There's a lot of in-depth explanations of why you should post it to your own site first, by people that can explain it far better than I.
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              • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                Originally Posted by RanD View Post

                The highest ranking site will still get the higher ranking in Google. Even though I submit to my site first then to Ezine, Ezine still has the #1 spot when I search for my article title. Hopefully that will not always be the case.
                Build backlinks to the article on YOUR site, you will kick EZA out of top spot ...

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    • Profile picture of the author permaguru
      You may want to avoid duplicate content for your site, so don't submit articles that appear on your own site. Other than that, submit to as many directories as you want.

      Originally Posted by Deezy View Post

      I submit the same piece of content to every article directory there is. Although, I never submit the same piece the the same directory twice.
      Do you have a list of directories you normally submit to?
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        • Profile picture of the author mnguyen04
          great, thanks for all the answers guys
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  • Profile picture of the author Derek Allen
    Well, not all of the content sites are going to rank your content. This is the age old question about duplicate content. In my experience duplicate content doesn't really matter. There are others that will argue this but, it doesn't mean you shouldn't put out quality content though. As far as putting the same content on your site, you should change it up a little for that. Also, it depend on what kind of method you are doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Perez O'Connor
    Your site will not suffer if it has the same article either.... google states that you can let them know which site you want them to keep in the search engines by doing redirects, or linking to the predominant sites.

    If google sees the article every where but they all point to your site, it lets them know that your site is the one to rank.

    Jay.
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    • Profile picture of the author Obelisk
      Forget the Duplicate Content Myth, only applies to duplicate content within your own site...

      I personally post to as many as I can...Unless you are trying to become a world class writer for major publications, simple article marketing is a mix of numbers with compelling content...

      Just my .02 cents,

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  • Profile picture of the author vivekg
    You can try changing the content a bit, so you wont be concerned about the duplicates, and then submit the articles to as many directories as possible.
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    • Profile picture of the author TCrosby
      What article directories do you all submit to?
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  • Profile picture of the author azland55
    Why don't you have the original article on your site and use an article spinner to make more unique articles from the same one with them all pointing back to your site for all the article directories submissions.
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  • Profile picture of the author ReneeRBO
    And I was taking it slow trying to create all original articles because I thought you couldn't do this! Hmm. I might just get busy this weekend...
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris_x
    Well in order for 'you' to hold authority over that article you should, as I have been taught, first post it to your site/blog, wait a few days and then do the article submission process. Then Google says you are the author and any duplicates on the web are just syndicated content...otherwise whichever site you post the article to first might just become the real (in Googles eyes) owner or author,

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  • Profile picture of the author Irfan Syeed
    Cris_X just made a good point there. If some one puts the article in his site first and wait for a while before submitting it to directories, Google will know, where it originated from.

    I have question though. Which five directories are the best out there?
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    • Profile picture of the author Paleochora
      Originally Posted by Irfan Syeed View Post

      Cris_X just made a good point there. If some one puts the article in his site first and wait for a while before submitting it to directories, Google will know, where it originated from.

      I have question though. Which five directories are the best out there?
      The best ones I would suggest are the ones with the highest PR (if it makes much difference)

      Ezine Articles
      Buzzle
      Amazines
      Go Articles
      ArticleBiz
      ArticleBase
      ArticleCity
      Articledashboard

      These are all PR 5 and up

      But don't limit yourself.
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      • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
        Originally Posted by Paleochora View Post

        The best ones I would suggest are the ones with the highest PR (if it makes much difference)

        Ezine Articles
        Buzzle
        Amazines
        Go Articles
        ArticleBiz
        ArticleBase
        ArticleCity
        Articledashboard

        These are all PR 5 and up

        But don't limit yourself.
        Not kicking any site here .

        I actually use most of them myself .

        With these sites

        The page your article sits on is a pr0 unless you build back links to it . Then it can take up to 3 months for Google to update the pr .

        Have you tried to social bookmark most of these sites ?

        They are considered spam sources . Now I know you can get links from other sources but do you really want to leave link sources out that will get you traffic from the sites as well as add link authority ?

        How do I get around this problem ?

        The article directory I use for my home directory ( article productions ) has a automatic pr 2 as soon as my article is published .

        I write two articles . Put both on my site .

        I put both articles on my home directory.

        I cross link these to the articles on my site .

        I put the same two articles out for syndication on the other directories , cross linked to the article that isn't matching at my home directory and usually my index on my site .

        This builds authority to an article that automatically sits on a pr2 and builds a lot of links to my site at the same time .
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        • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
          That is one thing that trips me out about people .. They say "I post to only high PR sites" and then they create a thread saying "Google must have sandboxed me because I built links too fast"..



          Ummm No!!! The truth is you posted on a PR 0 "page" and you built no backlinks to it and as such your posting did no good at all....

          This is why we bookmark our bookmarks and such ...

          James

          Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

          Not kicking any site here .

          I actually use most of them myself .

          With these sites

          The page your article sits on is a pr0 unless you build back links to it . Then it can take up to 3 months for Google to update the pr .

          Have you tried to social bookmark most of these sites ?

          They are considered spam sources . Now I know you can get links from other sources but do you really want to leave link sources out that will get you traffic from the sites as well as add link authority ?

          How do I get around this problem ?

          The article directory I use for my home directory ( article productions ) has a automatic pr 2 as soon as my article is published .

          I write two articles . Put both on my site .

          I put both articles on my home directory.

          I cross link these to the articles on my site .

          I put the same two articles out for syndication on the other directories , cross linked to the article that isn't matching at my home directory and usually my index on my site .

          This builds authority to an article that automatically sits on a pr2 and builds a lot of links to my site at the same time .
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          • Profile picture of the author Get Inspired Today
            Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

            That is one thing that trips me out about people .. They say "I post to only high PR sites" and then they create a thread saying "Google must have sandboxed me because I built links too fast"..



            Ummm No!!! The truth is you posted on a PR 0 "page" and you built no backlinks to it and as such your posting did no good at all....

            This is why we bookmark our bookmarks and such ...

            James
            What would you recommend do then to build backlinks to the articles? Simply bookmark them?
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            • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
              Originally Posted by Get Inspired Today View Post

              What would you recommend do then to build backlinks to the articles? Simply bookmark them?
              First and foremost those articles should be on your site and bookmarked before you do anything..

              After which then you can post on article directories and bookmark your articles.

              Faves: Sites you'll love, from people like you
              Mixx - Latest news and top videos and photos from around the web
              Diigo - Web Highlighter and Sticky Notes, Online Bookmarking and Annotation, Personal Learning Network.
              Mister Wong | Social Bookmarking Tool
              Digg - The Latest News Headlines, Videos and Images
              http://www.clipmarks.com

              And other bookmarking sites.. after you want to make sure you submit your blog, author profile, bookmark profile rss feeds to rss directories. Such as RSS feed Directory - Feedage.com

              70% of your backlinks should be done on your site and 30% done on the articles posted on the article directory..

              James
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              • Profile picture of the author RanD
                Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

                First and foremost those articles should be on your site and bookmarked before you do anything..

                After which then you can post on article directories and bookmark your articles.

                Faves: Sites you'll love, from people like you
                Mixx - Latest news and top videos and photos from around the web
                Diigo - Web Highlighter and Sticky Notes, Online Bookmarking and Annotation, Personal Learning Network.
                Mister Wong | Social Bookmarking Tool
                Digg - The Latest News Headlines, Videos and Images
                Clipmarks - What are you finding on the web?

                And other bookmarking sites.. after you want to make sure you submit your blog, author profile, bookmark profile rss feeds to rss directories. Such as RSS feed Directory - Feedage.com

                70% of your backlinks should be done on your site and 30% done on the articles posted on the article directory..

                James
                Excellent suggestions, James, as in the other thread. I do have some questions about the bookmarking though.

                Don't places like Digg frown upon submitting the same article more than once for bookmarking? I know I have been asked to check if it was already submitted before submitting again. I imagine that is for duplicates of the article itself regardless of what site it is on. For example, if you Digg the article on your site, you can't Digg the article again on the article site, am I right? Are all the bookmarking sites the same or are some more lenient than others? How do you handle that?
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                • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                  Originally Posted by RanD View Post

                  Excellent suggestions, James, as in the other thread. I do have some questions about the bookmarking though.

                  Don't places like Digg frown upon submitting the same article more than once for bookmarking? I know I have been asked to check if it was already submitted before submitting again. I imagine that is for duplicates of the article itself regardless of what site it is on. For example, if you Digg the article on your site, you can't Digg the article again on the article site, am I right? Are all the bookmarking sites the same or are some more lenient than others? How do you handle that?
                  Yes Digg does but some of us actually have ways around that in my case (and this is NOT self promotion but I am answering your question to the best of my ability) my authors actually have 4 urls they can use for the same article. So if a site does allow only 1 submission per domain/url my authors can just use another url...

                  I be careful where digg is concerned but again I never seen much out of the site but they help you get indexed fast. The highest diggs I have had on a url I posted is 122 diggs.

                  Not all bookmarking sites are the same, some allow dup urls and some do not. Those that do not allow dup urls will ask you to "plug" the original one that is already in the system. This is why some of us use different urls and along with a different url you can also use a different title and such.

                  It is actually best to test and find out what works for you though... For example I might say "hmm I wonder what would happen if I digg my clipmark.com post?" So I go and digg it and see what happens. Never hurts to test things while you are still doing marketing at the same time.

                  James
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        • Profile picture of the author Kitty Kiki
          Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

          Not kicking any site here .

          I actually use most of them myself .

          With these sites

          The page your article sits on is a pr0 unless you build back links to it . Then it can take up to 3 months for Google to update the pr .

          Have you tried to social bookmark most of these sites ?

          They are considered spam sources . Now I know you can get links from other sources but do you really want to leave link sources out that will get you traffic from the sites as well as add link authority ?

          How do I get around this problem ?

          The article directory I use for my home directory ( article productions ) has a automatic pr 2 as soon as my article is published .

          I write two articles . Put both on my site .

          I put both articles on my home directory.

          I cross link these to the articles on my site .

          I put the same two articles out for syndication on the other directories , cross linked to the article that isn't matching at my home directory and usually my index on my site .

          This builds authority to an article that automatically sits on a pr2 and builds a lot of links to my site at the same time .
          I am sorry I can't understand. Can you re-explain it again to me?

          Thank you
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          • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
            Originally Posted by Kitty Kiki View Post

            I am sorry I can't understand. Can you re-explain it again to me?

            Thank you
            What part of the post are you referring to ? Get specific and I will try to elaborate more .
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        • Profile picture of the author Kitty Kiki
          Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

          Not kicking any site here .

          I actually use most of them myself .

          With these sites

          The page your article sits on is a pr0 unless you build back links to it . Then it can take up to 3 months for Google to update the pr .

          Have you tried to social bookmark most of these sites ?

          They are considered spam sources . Now I know you can get links from other sources but do you really want to leave link sources out that will get you traffic from the sites as well as add link authority ?

          How do I get around this problem ?

          The article directory I use for my home directory ( article productions ) has a automatic pr 2 as soon as my article is published .

          I write two articles . Put both on my site .           I put both articles on my home directory.(what is a home directory? Is is same as homepage?)

          I cross link these to the articles on my site .

          I put the same two articles out for syndication on the other directories , cross linked to the article that isn't matching at my home directory and usually my index on my site .

          This builds authority to an article that automatically sits on a pr2 and builds a lot of links to my site at the same time           .
          The highlighted part is the one I don't understand much.
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          • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
            Originally Posted by Kitty Kiki View Post

            The highlighted part is the one I don't understand much.
            Okay ... here we go .

            While some people rant that page rank is useless and others that it is a must , I am one of those that personally doesn't think it is worth a lot but am not so strong in my opinion that I still don't take it into consideration.

            Just because a directory is a pr 6 does not mean the page your article actually sits on is . In most instances it sits on a pr0 page .


            A home directory is the directory I choose to submit the articles to I am going to promote the most . This is for bookmarking purposes mostly .

            A short example would be to try and bookmark an article from EZA on digg. They will consider it a spam source and not allow the bookmark.

            I am not saying EZA is a spam source ... digg is .

            The home directory gets my articles after my own site . The other directories get the article after my site and the home directory .

            I link the " other directory" articles , one to my home directory article , one to my site .

            Since the home directory article sits on a pr2 by default , these articles from the other directories build that page rank up a lot quicker than if they were having to start at zero
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            • Profile picture of the author Kitty Kiki
              Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

              Okay ... here we go .

              While some people rant that page rank is useless and others that it is a must , I am one of those that personally doesn't think it is worth a lot but am not so strong in my opinion that I still don't take it into consideration.

              Just because a directory is a pr 6 does not mean the page your article actually sits on is . In most instances it sits on a pr0 page .


              A home directory is the directory I choose to submit the articles to I am going to promote the most . This is for bookmarking purposes mostly .

              A short example would be to try and bookmark an article from EZA on digg. They will consider it a spam source and not allow the bookmark.

              I am not saying EZA is a spam source ... digg is .

              The home directory gets my articles after my own site . The other directories get the article after my site and the home directory .

              I link the " other directory" articles , one to my home directory article , one to my site .

              Since the home directory article sits on a pr2 by default , these articles from the other directories build that page rank up a lot quicker than if they were having to start at zero
              Thank you very much for you time.
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              • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
                Originally Posted by Kitty Kiki View Post

                Thank you very much for you time.
                No problem . I am glad to help any time I can. While I am not super marketer by a long shot , if you need anything just pm me and if I can point you in the right direction I will.

                Troy
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  • Profile picture of the author new guy
    I have had some success by posting an article on EZA and then posting the exact same one on my site. I had a niche site ranking well after only 10 articles on it and a few weeks out. In this case, you need to submit it to the directory first because the directory may refuse it if it is already on your site. They want the original content. So what I do is post it to EZA, then set my blog to release it the next day. usually comes out in both about the same time. Don't worry, if an article is out there with a link back to your site and the same article is on your site, G is smart enough to figure out that the article came from you.
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    • Profile picture of the author noodle2005
      Originally Posted by new guy View Post

      In this case, you need to submit it to the directory first because the directory may refuse it if it is already on your site. They want the original content.
      Thats not true

      If you are the original author of the article and you use the same author pen name then ezine articles or whichever directory do not care whether its already on your own site IF you are the original author of the article
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    I just use the top-10

    Seems like I get enough exposure and traffic doing it that way

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  • Profile picture of the author Goatboy
    You should never, ever submit the same article to more than 1 million article directories. At 1,000,001 G will kick in with the duplicate content thing.

    Seriously, put it on your site first and then send it to as many ezines as you can. If something is popular, everyone else wants to publish it or talk about it. Your article on dozens of other sites will only look like you are a very popular guy that everyone wants to talk about. In other words, an authority. Just make sure you publish it first so you get full credit for the publication.

    I usually put articles on my sites and wait for them to show up indexed by G. Then I send them out to the ezines unchanged.
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      Great info on this topic, I guess I always believed the myth. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Well here comes that "dup content penalty myth" again !!!! OMG!!!

    OP: Submit it to as many places as you want, it's called syndication and no you can not get into any trouble. You DO NOT have to spin your article as some sites claim you do just so they can sell their junky spinners.

    You can use other places besides article directories also and you can even repurpose your articles into pdf format for upload sites, create short reports to build opt-in list, and may many more things..

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  • Profile picture of the author Get Inspired Today
    Fantastic thread... never saw so much doubt for the dupe content idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author SureForCash
    This s a Fantastic Question from the OP and one that i have been trying to find the answer for.
    im glad many of you said its a good idea to submit to multiple directories because thats exactly what i plan to do.

    i just have one question though: is it a good idea to rank an ezine article (Main article) with backlinks from the other articles or to just backlink back to my site?

    Thanks Again Everyone
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    • Profile picture of the author RanD
      Originally Posted by SureForCash View Post

      This s a Fantastic Question from the OP and one that i have been trying to find the answer for.
      im glad many of you said its a good idea to submit to multiple directories because thats exactly what i plan to do.

      i just have one question though: is it a good idea to rank an ezine article (Main article) with backlinks from the other articles or to just backlink back to my site?

      Thanks Again Everyone
      You can typically have more than one link in the bios area, so you could link to your site and the article directory form other articles...providing that they are not the same article. You don't want to link one article to the same article on another site, spun or not. The search engines probably wouldn't like it too much, and readers seeing the same article may just close the window and go elsewhere. Linking different articles to other articles looks good to the reader and natural to Google. Just make sure to stick to Jame's 70/30 rule, and dedicate most of your time to linking and deep linking to your own site.
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  • Profile picture of the author DDistel
    I also submit it to every single one I can find, I do change the title of the articles, and sometimes the anchor text for the backlink though. No major spinning or anything though.
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepreneurjay
    You can spin the articles, a favorite of mine is mass article control saves a lot of time. Or you can just switch up the titles of the articles to different variations of the original, this also works well but is more time consuming.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
    The fun part comes when you get to try and figure out exactly how much of this backlinking (and stuff) is practical. James can probably concur. Eventually there comes a point where your time/money will be better focused on a new article or other marketing /site building effort.

    You guys should really take the advice given in this and other threads and test things out for yourselves. At first it seems like a pain in the ass, but eventually, you start getting a little addicted to it and can't wait to test some more.

    Obviously, that would be a good thing.

    AL
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Hi Allen,
      Yep I agree .. The possibilities are endless if people would just sit down and think about it .. Get creative and find out if something works or not. Don't bother asking someone else, just go do it!!

      Who knows you just may stumble upon a great new marketing tactic. Besides that I agree with Allen it can be some serious fun trying to figure out how something works ..

      It's called Marketing Play, play around and have some fun while marketing.

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      Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

      The fun part comes when you get to try and figure out exactly how much of this backlinking (and stuff) is practical. James can probably concur. Eventually there comes a point where your time/money will be better focused on a new article or other marketing /site building effort.

      You guys should really take the advice given in this and other threads and test things out for yourselves. At first it seems like a pain in the ass, but eventually, you start getting a little addicted to it and can't wait to test some more.

      Obviously, that would be a good thing.

      AL
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  • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
    I don't think that duplicate content is a myth, if you post to an article site with high backlinks and put the same article on your website the chances are that the article directory will be higher in the search results, so for your site use original material.

    In terms of the PR, I think google holds more value on the linkdomain a site has, a article page with 0 PR, no backlinks can still rank on the first page.
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    • Profile picture of the author RanD
      Originally Posted by dmtaylor247 View Post

      I don't think that duplicate content is a myth, if you post to an article site with high backlinks and put the same article on your website the chances are that the article directory will be higher in the search results, so for your site use original material.

      In terms of the PR, I think google holds more value on the linkdomain a site has, a article page with 0 PR, no backlinks can still rank on the first page.
      What does any of that have to do with duplicate content?? Your comment doesn't even discuss duplicate content. You've said nothing other than Ezine is a higher ranking site than yours. Yes, if you post to a higher ranking site than yours, the content will rank higher on there site than yours. That is the case regardless of which you post to first though, as has already been pointed out by others, there are things you can do to eventually outrank Ezine's version of your article. The difference is, if you post to their site first it is THEIR unique content, if you post to your site first it is YOUR unique content. Which site do you want to be seen as the authority on your niche, your or theirs? You get your backlinks either way, but posting to your site first and baclinking to it builds authority for your site.

      The duplicate content penalty is a myth. It's an urban legend that some people choose to believe beyond all reasoning. You can not duplicate content on your own site, but as many have already pointed out, having your content posted around other sites on the internet is syndication.
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  • Profile picture of the author cmaq
    I submit the same article to many directories and have had success.
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    • Profile picture of the author aballantyne
      You can post to as many directories as you want. There are only a few of them worth submitting to in my opinion though.
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      • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
        Originally Posted by aballantyne View Post

        You can post to as many directories as you want. There are only a few of them worth submitting to in my opinion though.
        Really depends on what you are wanting out of the directory . While I like the extra traffic , I use certain directories for different reasons .

        The number one reason ( for me ) is putting information out there people can actually get something out of if they are not interested enough to click the money link, what good have I done ?

        The second would be the search engine love and the traffic it can bring .

        Third would be back links.
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