Guarantees on downloadable products

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What are your thoughts on giving money-back guarantees on downloadable products (e.g. eBooks)?

I realise that saying the buyer has, say, a 90-day money back guarantee if they are not happy with the product, will entice more people to buy. But how often is this abused?

Wouldn't it be easy for serial guarantee-refunders to go around grabbing all the good stuff, effectively for free?

I am thinking about saying there is a 90-day guarantee, but that you have to keep the product for 30 days before you can apply for a refund. That might put off some of the serial offenders.

I am in Australia, and have checked with our ACCC - the government body that controls regulations about things like this. They say that I don't have to give a refund unless the item is returned (which of course it can't be), unless the item can be shown to be not what was advertised, or faulty. So I asked them that if someone gets an eBook from me that is as described, and the buyer can open it and read it, would I need to ever give a refund? They said no.

But of course NOT giving a refund, or even saying that no refunds will be given, might put off potential buyers.

What do you all think? What do you do?

Christine.
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  • Profile picture of the author dougp
    Originally Posted by ChristineA View Post

    What are your thoughts on giving money-back guarantees on downloadable products (e.g. eBooks)?

    I realise that saying the buyer has, say, a 90-day money back guarantee if they are not happy with the product, will entice more people to buy. But how often is this abused?

    Wouldn't it be easy for serial guarantee-refunders to go around grabbing all the good stuff, effectively for free?

    I am thinking about saying there is a 90-day guarantee, but that you have to keep the product for 30 days before you can apply for a refund. That might put off some of the serial offenders.

    I am in Australia, and have checked with our ACCC - the government body that controls regulations about things like this. They say that I don't have to give a refund unless the item is returned (which of course it can't be), unless the item can be shown to be not what was advertised, or faulty. So I asked them that if someone gets an eBook from me that is as described, and the buyer can open it and read it, would I need to ever give a refund? They said no.

    But of course NOT giving a refund, or even saying that no refunds will be given, might put off potential buyers.

    What do you all think? What do you do?

    Christine.
    One or the other. If you say there is a refund but have several stipulations then it will make people angry at you. Also, in the end, just do a simple a/b split test and see which one gives you results you desire.

    Doug
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  • Profile picture of the author dvduval
    I've always been a proponent of handling refunds on a case by case basis with a clear process that involves question and answer so I understand why they want a refund, as well as the opportunity to remedy the situation. By having a process in place it makes it less worthwhile for people who just want to take advantage of the system. Generally, I also make people wait a period of time, or even post to paypal so we have "documentation" of the case.

    Don't get me wrong. I have done refunds, but I also feel that often refunds can be avoided through communication and having a process in place that is diligent.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    Hi Christine,

    One thing to keep in mind is that the serial refunders who want their money back have no intention of actually buying any product permanently. They don't really represent sales in the first place. Your idea of making them wait for 30 days sounds like a good one if it's a PayPal thing or something not sold through Clickbank or a similar platform where you don't have the luxury of making them wait 30 days.

    Here's something I've thought about trying but I haven't gotten around to it yet. You might give them their download and at the end of your ebook or video product offer them a free bonus. You could say something like...

    If you are fully satisfied with this product and would like a complementary bonus to go with it, click on the link below to download it for free.


    You could describe the bonus as well. Have that link go to a page with an opt-in form that says the same thing again. Have it say that once they provide their name and email, your auto-responder will send them their download link after they confirm their request for information.

    Then, if they request a refund for your originial product, and they opted in for your bonus, you could provide that proof of satisfaction to Clickbank, PayPal, whomever the payment was processed through.

    Just a thought I've had in the back of my mind for a while. --Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author mywebwork
    Hey Mike, that's a pretty good idea - I wonder if it would work in convincing ClickBank or PayPal that it's proof of a satisfied customer.

    I'd add one thing to it - on the page where you give the free gift have a checkbox that they need to check off after reading a small bit of legalese that states that by accepting this gift they are agreeing that they are satisfied with the original e-book and waive all rights to a refund. Use JavaScript to disable the Submit button until the checkbox is checked.

    Can anyone with more legal expertise or experience find a hole in this logic?

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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    yeah, the checkbox idea might put a nail in their coffin as far as refunds go. I might actually have to follow through and test that out. Good tip!
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  • Profile picture of the author Platinum Matt
    Offer the refund period. And HONOUR it.

    You are going to get somewhere between 3-10% refunds.

    Accept it. It's a cost of doing business.

    STOP OVERANALYZING stuff, and just DO IT!
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  • Profile picture of the author Tanner
    For me it's all about testing... I have found that for most of my products sales increase with the addition of a guarantee, consequently refund rates also rise slightly, but in most cases the increased in sales is significant enough to ignore the slightly increased refund rate.

    And if I have a product (and I do) where the refund rate was as much as the sales increase, then I leave the guarantee off.

    As far as serial refunders go - they represent a tiny fraction of your sales. A good motto to remember is "Don't Sweat The Small Stuff" and serial refunders constitute small stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tovuti
    There are always a very small percentage of people who will abuse the refund policy and they are very easy to spot. They are the people who either refund shortly after they buy or wait until they get their credit card statement and decide they don't want to pay for it.

    I stressed about this for a long time because I felt that I was being ripped off by these people. Then it was explained to me that the way to look at it was that my product "just wasn't right for the customer" and that I should stop over-analyzing it. That helped me a lot.

    Also, to make myself feel better, I always send out the following email after I've processed the refund (which, thank goodness is not very often):

    "As per your request, I have issued a refund for [name of product]. Please make sure you completely remove all traces of this package from your computer as retaining this information is in violation of the copyright. Thank you for trying out the package and I’m sorry it did not meet your expectations."

    Fortunately, most people know very little about copyright law (and I don't claim to know much more) but I think it sounds good and deters most people from keeping the product after they've refunded. I've actually had several people reply to my email stating that they've removed my product from their computer (although obviously there's no way of knowing if they actually have -- it just makes me feel better though.)
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
    Originally Posted by ChristineA View Post

    What are your thoughts on giving money-back guarantees on downloadable products (e.g. eBooks)?

    I realise that saying the buyer has, say, a 90-day money back guarantee if they are not happy with the product, will entice more people to buy. But how often is this abused?

    Wouldn't it be easy for serial guarantee-refunders to go around grabbing all the good stuff, effectively for free?
    After two refunds, my buyers get their IP blocked. I've only had to do that twice.
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  • Profile picture of the author SunnySahu
    It's something worth testing.

    I, for one, offer refunds for most of my products. However, if the buyer is a serial refunder, he/she gets blocked after two refunds. Anyone doing a chargeback also gets blocked.
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    • Profile picture of the author dbsilva
      Aren't there products that allow you to essentially "turn off" an ebook after issuing a refund? Seems to me I came across such a thing some time ago. I believe it applied specifically to ebooks. So if someone purchased your ebook, downloaded it, then requested a refund sometime in the future, you could simply block access to that ebook for that customer from that moment on.

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  • Profile picture of the author ina696
    Great idea, Mike McMillan. I really like that concept.

    Yes, dbsilva, there are products that do just that. DigitalLockDownPro is one. There is a 7 day free trial to try the product out and $9.97 I believe per month afterwards. But essentially, once a serial refunder or freebie seeker gets their money back, services like these disable access to the download on their computer.

    I'm not an affiliate or otherwise connected to the product. Just sharing.

    Ina
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    • Profile picture of the author edd666666
      Give it up and just give the refund no matter what. How much time are you going to spend studying every refund and feeling ripped off? Let it go, it is a cost of doing business and I'll bet you have a number of bigger problems on your plate that would move your business ahead if you spent your time on them.
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