How often to Social Bookmark without getting sandboxed?

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Hi,

I've been given a great SERP boost from social bookmarking.

First I did one session, and went from 168 to 23 on a keyword. Then I did the same for a different site which went from 60 to 11.

I did the first one myself, with 25 social bookmarks, and the second one was a paid service - 100 social bookmarks.

But how often can one do this without getting sandboxed?

I am tempted to try to repeat it.

Have you been sandboxed from excessive social bookmarking before?
How often is too often?
Once a week, month, two months?
It's new site (launched less then a month ago).
#bookmark #sandboxed #social
  • Profile picture of the author Sooner
    From my experience, I would focus on the number of links you're getting per day, and not just the frequency.

    For example, if what if you bookmarked twice a week, and each time you received 500 links. That wouldn't look nature to the SE's.

    My suggestion is to try to average less than 15 links per day, 5-6 days per week. This will allow you to fly under the radar, as well as, accumulate a massive number of links over time. (Much more nature)
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  • Profile picture of the author Rajan Cajan
    If you have good content and you submit on a consistent basis in my opinion you want have any problems.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by Rajan Cajan View Post

      If you have good content and you submit on a consistent basis in my opinion you want have any problems.
      Good content alone is not good enough... Search Engines are looking for social validation and yes this does effect your rankings. You can have all the greatest content in the world but if nobody can see it then it does not matter.

      Backlinks are required and especially now since many SEO tricks are no longer working. This is why it is very important to have social media as apart of your marketing. You must have social references and that means bookmarks/backlinks leading to your great content.

      James
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  • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
    Originally Posted by silvercap View Post

    I did the first one myself, with 25 social bookmarks, and the second one was a paid service - 100 social bookmarks.
    This number is way too small to attract any attention. You would have to be doing 1000's and 1000's to even have the potential to cause you any serious problems.

    One thing to remember about social bookmarking links is that they're very weak and very temporary. They can give your page a temporary boost but their impact weakens quickly. They move backwards in the time line and are soon buried and gone. You either have to continue getting them or, better yet, develop more permanent, higher value, links to support your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author silvercap
    Thanks for the answers.

    I have noticed some of that bgmacaw; that the links are temporary.

    Nowadays PageRank is less important to rank high. Relevant links count much more I guess.
    So my plan for the future is to get 5-6 articles published, do social bookmarking on them. And when the articles rank high (and they most likely will), they will give me a "relevant link boost".

    Sounds like an OK strategy?

    I thought I might publish some (quickly written) articles to link to the articles that link to me too.
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  • Profile picture of the author silvercap
    @bgmacaw how long do you think it takes before the Social Bookmarking effect have worn off? A week? A couple of weeks? More?
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Gosse
    Great content gets natural bookmarks. If you publish good stuff you won't need to worry about how often to bookmark
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    • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
      Originally Posted by Brad Gosse View Post

      Great content gets natural bookmarks. If you publish good stuff you won't need to worry about how often to bookmark
      While that might be true, if you don't get yourself found by moving up in the search engines, no one will know about the content to bookmark it.
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    • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
      Originally Posted by Brad Gosse View Post

      Great content gets natural bookmarks. If you publish good stuff you won't need to worry about how often to bookmark
      lol....

      This kind of advice leaves people wondering where the ca$h is at...

      I appreciate you're trying to make a point, and you do have one, but to imply that content alone is going to rank well in the ever updating search engine optimization field is crazy.. you and I both know it.

      We're not talking about popularity bookmarks here.. for some crazy viral video.. we're talking about turning this thing into a profitable activity.

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  • Profile picture of the author silvercap
    @bgmacaw Do you bookmark sites with the "intention of getting diggs" or as a way of getting backlinks and crawls?

    I find it hard to get "diggs" (or similar) when bookmarking sites which aren't in English.
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    • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
      Originally Posted by silvercap View Post

      @bgmacaw Do you bookmark sites with the "intention of getting diggs" or as a way of getting backlinks and crawls?
      I pretty much ignore Digg and Stumbleupon because their traffic is mostly a non-converting bandwidth waster. I use Twitter some but it's mostly to inform my existing customers and as sort of a press release for products, not promoting my niche sites.

      I use niche related and general purpose minor bookmarking sites for getting indexed and links. I also get some traffic from these directly, occasionally a decent spike.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    You can do 5,000 backlinks in a day and it not hurt you, why people still think they must do 15 or 20 per day is beyond me.

    Again as been said many times over - Go do a press release with PRWeb and see dont you get hundreds if not thousands of backlinks within hours.. It does not hurt you one bit..

    Fact is no spider/bot can monitor billions of sites every single second of every day... Not even google can do that, it's impossible..

    With that said you must do social bookmarking "properly" and that means do not spam the heck out of sites with your urls.

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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by ArticlePlayground View Post

        How much money id you pay to do a press release with PRWeb?
        PRWeb cost $300 .. 1888pressrelease is cheaper .. like $150 ... Point is it does in fact create hundreds if not thousands of backlinks within hours.

        Course this also depends upon you having a well written release that is news worthy ....

        I just did a press release and at the same time I did several thousands of backlinks .. all in the same day, I see no mythical "sandbox". This is very normal to get hundreds or thousands of backlinks in a day.

        James
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  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
    I think you should only do 5 backlinks a day to avoid getting sandboxed...

    Leave all the rest up to me

    : cue evil laughter :

    Seriously... for the lack of quality that social bookmarking brings... you should be focusing on some stronger backlinks... thousands of them.

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  • Profile picture of the author silvercap
    @james, this press release thing, do you get any backlinks from that if you have a medicore article which you are writing about?

    Does the press release work the same as sending emails to journalists, and hoping they'd write about your story?
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by silvercap View Post

      @james, this press release thing, do you get any backlinks from that if you have a medicore article which you are writing about?

      Does the press release work the same as sending emails to journalists, and hoping they'd write about your story?
      A press release and an article is 2 different things ... Yes content is content but a press release needs to be "news worthy" otherwise nobody will bother publishing it.

      If news worthy many will pick it up and republish it... Such as articlesbase.com republished my press release and so did many news and blog sites. This is where you get your backlinks from.

      If you are just going to slap a press release out there for backlinks then you will be disappointed in the money you spent for the release. I can not stress enough it must be news worthy and it must be formatted properly.

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      • Profile picture of the author opiel
        Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post


        If you are just going to slap a press release out there for backlinks then you will be disappointed in the money you spent for the release. I can not stress enough it must be news worthy and it must be formatted properly.

        James
        I don't have any experiance with press releases but I would guess that not all niches are suitable for them.

        For instance... it is rather hard to imagine a press release for a penis enlargement site. It could be formatted properly but I doubt there would be anything news worthy about it.

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        • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
          Originally Posted by opiel View Post

          I don't have any experiance with press releases but I would guess that not all niches are suitable for them.

          For instance... it is rather hard to imagine a press release for a penis enlargement site. It could be formatted properly but I doubt there would be anything news worthy about it.

          Andre
          While I am no press release expert ... I can promise you that the penis enlargement company (you know the one that creates the stuff) does do press releases.

          Anything can be news worthy, as long as it is written to be news worthy...

          James
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  • Profile picture of the author silvercap
    @opiel I could easily write a press release which would get you backlinks for penis enlargement. It's just to use your imagination.

    @james, Thanks for the reply. I guess it's the same as emailing the news companies then. If you have something newsworthy (or something you have "made" newsworthy"), you might get backlinks, if not, then you'll get none...
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