dedicated servers... Any Advise?

by MicahF7 17 replies
Im looking to purchase a dedicated servers,

Any recomendations?

Cheap is always nice!


Thanks a lot!


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  • Profile picture of the author dougp
    Originally Posted by MicahF7 View Post

    Im looking to purchase a dedicated servers,

    Any recomendations?

    Cheap is always nice!


    Thanks a lot!


    M Rush
    Trying to get a cheap dedicated server is like trying to get a cheap expensive item anywhere else online... its not exactly what it appears to be. May i ask why you need one? If you dont have a large site, or dont have lots of visitors then you shouldnt really need one. An "cheaper" option is a virtual server. You can also check out cluster hosting which is just a shared server but they use clustered servers which in theory acts like a dedicated server and also have less down time. I like clustered hosting, but the company im with is not really cheap.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Fletcher
    softlayer.com are fantastic and their prices are insanely competitive.
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  • Profile picture of the author SojiMedia.com
    There are a number of dedicated server solutions out there, each offering something unique, to fit your specific needs.

    I am with dougp on this, when suggesting that maybe you check into a virtual server, or perhaps even managed hosting from one of the major players, if your site isn't huge or receiving a lot of traffic.

    With a dedicated server, you're on your own when it comes to updates and generally administering the server. Great if you are a die-hard IT guy, but a nightmare if you're primarly a Marketer who dabbles in IT.

    But, if you do decide to go the dedicated route - check out DedicatedNOW. They seem to get good reviews.
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    • Profile picture of the author David Neale
      I would not recommend a dedicated server unless you can afford to have it fully managed. Even if you are "fairly" technical your time can usually be much more profitable spent doing something else other than tweaking a server.

      Virtual and Cluster servers are worth looking into.

      I have three dedicated servers myself but fully managed.
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      • Profile picture of the author jacktackett
        Listen to David,

        I've built out several data centers and ran more servers than I can remember - if you're not a sys admin and don't have the time - then you're going to need one. Either via a fully managed system (where the server provider does the sys admin work) or by outsourcing it to some group. or doing it yourself.

        Personally the only two providers I have experience with now are a local data Center - Hosted Solutions, and an international provider - 1 and 1. The otherone was EV1 but they've been merged into oblivion....RIP.

        For shared hosting 1 and 1 has been great - and I run my sites from there now. I had a dedicated server with them and the service sucked rocks. My site blew a power supply or hard drive (my suspicion since I never did get confirmation before switching) and they did nothing for 3 days. NOTHING.

        Hosted Solutions is not cheap - no proper managed service provider will be. Also a caveat - I use to work for them. But the servers I ran there were fine - both during and after my departure.

        Again - the physical server and the power, ping, and pipe of a data center are just one component of your costs - don't forget management and support.

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        Originally Posted by David Neale View Post

        I would not recommend a dedicated server unless you can afford to have it fully managed. Even if you are "fairly" technical your time can usually be much more profitable spent doing something else other than tweaking a server.

        Virtual and Cluster servers are worth looking into.

        I have three dedicated servers myself but fully managed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sean Kelly
      Speaking from personal experience iWeb has proven the best hosting provider I have ever used so far.

      Hostgator and iPowerWeb both shut my link-shortening site down without notice.
      Rackforce couldn't stay up and blamed everything under the Sun for their problems.
      Dreamhost went down and up and down and up and down and up and down until I begged them to move me to a new machine.
      SynergyBox are no longer in business and I only received one email warning from them beforehand.
      HostEcon came with no control panel and a lot of hassle to get up and running.

      Servage.net always up and a good price. I use it for streaming all my videos.

      iWeb : no problems at all and has never gone down yet.

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  • Profile picture of the author twistedpixel
    MediaTemple.net - get a "Grid" and a dedicated MySQL container for 40.00

    Blows away most dedicated crap.
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    • Profile picture of the author IM_Geek
      Originally Posted by twistedpixel View Post

      MediaTemple.net - get a "Grid" and a dedicated MySQL container for 40.00

      Blows away most dedicated crap.
      Whoa, if these guys are true about what they say, then that's pretty amazing.

      Their database infrastructure probably queries data several times the speed of classic, recent servers. Not to mention the added extras. Fantastico is always a GREAT plus for novice IT people.
      You can literally create a wordpress blog in seconds through fantastica automated installs.

      20 bucks a month is a little too much for me, but I'm bookmarking these guys. I'm curious as to whether they're true about their services.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
        Last time I checked (before signing up to LiquidWeb) the reviews for MT were not good. Uptime was really bad and they still hadn't removed the bugs from their GRID service. Not sure if it's been fixed since then. Nope, still seems unreliable. Link Link

        Originally Posted by IM_Geek View Post

        Whoa, if these guys are true about what they say, then that's pretty amazing.

        Their database infrastructure probably queries data several times the speed of classic, recent servers. Not to mention the added extras. Fantastico is always a GREAT plus for novice IT people.
        You can literally create a wordpress blog in seconds through fantastica automated installs.

        20 bucks a month is a little too much for me, but I'm bookmarking these guys. I'm curious as to whether they're true about their services.
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      • Profile picture of the author pjs
        Originally Posted by IM_Geek View Post

        Whoa, if these guys are true about what they say, then that's pretty amazing.

        Their database infrastructure probably queries data several times the speed of classic, recent servers. Not to mention the added extras. Fantastico is always a GREAT plus for novice IT people.
        You can literally create a wordpress blog in seconds through fantastica automated installs.

        20 bucks a month is a little too much for me, but I'm bookmarking these guys. I'm curious as to whether they're true about their services.
        MediaTemple is a great company and their service is excellent. I highly recommend their grid service (or upgraded services if you need it) for people looking to expand past the normal "shared hosting" plan.

        I personally use dedicated or colo'd 1U's I own. I have a long history in dc operations and unix sys admin so maintaining the machines isn't a big deal to me. However, if I didn't have a clue or "knew enough to get into trouble" I would stay away from a dedicated. You're just asking for it otherwise...
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    Forget dedicated. Start with VPS and work your way up. I'm using a LiquidWeb plan that costs around $40/mth. They manage everything and their support is fantastic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Wilson
    hostdime.com is great...been using them for 2+ years.

    Have 3 servers with them and their support is lightning quick. Usually get a response in 30-60 minutes.
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  • Profile picture of the author MicahF7
    OK.

    A few things i've picked up on...

    1. I DO NOT WANT TO DO MY OWN UPDATES AND TECK STUFF!
    That sounds like a nightmare!

    WITH A VPS server...

    Do I still need to handle all that, or is it maintained by the provider... I.E. Lunarpages, host gator... what ever?

    Thanks a lot Guys


    M RUSH
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    • Profile picture of the author alan mac
      Hi

      If you need a dedicated server they are certainly not the cheapest. But if uptime and support is important then I recommend Rackspace managed hosting.

      They keep it all upto date etc... but they do cost more than most. But for someone who knows no tech stuff they do it all.

      Truly amazing service. It costs me about a $1000 a month

      Good luck with who you choose

      Thanks Alan
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
    DataPipe is what I use and they are fantastic. I have a dedicated server at $250 a month. Support is always good. They do anything I ask including updates, adding things like the latest MYSQL etc. Still, I'm looking to cut costs and I prob. don't need a dedicated server anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author MicahF7
    Thanks a lot Guys...

    This stuff is what makes this forum valuable!


    Micah R
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    www.pacificrack.com

    support is awesome and they will manage your servers if you wish

    Kim
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