I want to make money- What is the "big" picture?

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I apologize in advance for the length of this post. But, I am at my whits end. I've searched the web and can't find a definitive answer to my dilemna. I thought this would be the best place to ask.

I am trying to get a handle on the "big" picture.

I built 3 weblogs and they are not doing very well, as far as sales go, actually almost non-existent.One of the weblogs is listed on the first of page of google for the keywords I chose. So, I am asking myself: Why am I not getting some sales? Is it because the weblogs are not focused and they don't really have a sales page?

Is it because they are more of a blog than a website? Most of my published articles point to the weblogs, some articles redirect directly to the vendor. I get some traffic, but no sales. I have been at this for 8 months. I jumped into having my own domain and building a "website" to market product by writing articles.

I am in three niches, I have followed the same format with the same results.

How do I test a new method? I know the obvious answer - try a different format. Test it. That begs the following questions:

1) In Word Press, if you create a static page is that the "landing " or sales page of your website? If it is the sales page, is it designed like blatant sales copy?
2) I hear about building a large site. Is that a whole site dedicated to one product? If not, does that mean that it is made up of many pages of different but related products or of unrelated products?
3) If I am using WordPress to create the many page model above, then, are there no "posts", just the static page and many pages?
4) In rebuilding the sites, do I leave the existing ones in place and start over with completely new material? Or, can I reuse the existing material and just redesign the format?

I would appreciate any feedback.

Carlos
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  • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
    The big picture is what ever you make it.

    As for how you display your blogs, some is dependent on what that niche is used to and what you have lined up as far as your sales funnel.

    What are other sites in those niches doing?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kitty Kiki
    Originally Posted by C A Perez View Post

    I built 3 weblogs and they are not doing very well, as far as sales go, actually almost non-existent.One of the weblogs is listed on the first of page of google for the keywords I chose. So, I am asking myself: Why am I not getting some sales? Is it because the weblogs are not focused and they don't really have a sales page?
    Carlos
    I am not an expert in IM yet. I just want to share a thing on keyword.

    As far as I know, if you want sales, you need to ensure all of your keywords are buying stage keywords.

    I have learned from my research that there are 3 types of keywords:

    1. Info seeking keywords - what is internet marketing, what is a domain name?

    2. Review keywords- Is product A good? Compare product A and product B

    3. Buying stage keywords- buy amazon kindle, buy sony m1234 LCD

    This is just part of the process. If your niche is a competitive niche then PERHAPS you should start with a sub-niche or other niche.

    Pls be reminded that I am not making in money yet as I am still learning. Certainly, there is no harm to share with you on what I have learned so far.

    There would be other ppl here who can give better answer

    just my 2 cents
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    • Profile picture of the author dotslash
      It's definitely worth checking out what your competitors do, as I am certain different approaches work with different niches. Sometimes blatant hard sell works, sometimes it doesn't.

      You do need to target sales to some extent unless you're relying on advertising.

      A model that has worked very well for me is to build a blog on a certain subject, have an ad to your main product and then post many informational posts without plugging the product too much (use associated long tailed keywords for each post). This will build up the authority of your site and bring in more traffic. But also use some pages which are more sales orientated, maybe a review or a recommendation at the end of the post in a simple text link to your product.

      If you're getting traffic you've cracked a big part of the process, but converting into sales I always find harder. Just try different approaches, and see which works best, maybe invest in a copywriter to write a sales page?

      Good luck
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      • Profile picture of the author RMC
        Okay I just finished recording 20 minutes of free content, why stop now right?


        #1. What people want, and what gets people to buy are often two different things.

        I want an orange Lamborghini Gallardo with black tint, and I frequently look at them online. It is not however practical, or affordable to buy it right now, and I probably wouldn't buy it at the first site I hit...if online at all.

        So from that example, my traffic does not equal buying, but I was still on someone's site.

        #2. Looking at the buying side... why might people buy or not buy.

        price - can they afford it, or put it on credit

        trust - do they trust you or the sales page for what it says

        need - do they need it regardless of whether they really want it (if you're dying, you generally try to go to the doctor regardless of any other factor.)

        value - this is a long topic...but basically do they feel like they get a lot of value for the price

        impulse - oooh shiny, cool, hungry, whatever... the emotion overwhelms all the other factors and they snap it up.

        Education - how important it is to them to research the decision and choices. ( I don't compare calories, price check, and look for taste reviews when I buy a candy bar. I just buy one. For a house or car...not so much...)


        #3. What stage are they at when they get to your site, and how can you move them closer to the ooh I need, want, got to have this thing, and I'm convinced it's better than all the others and at the best price.

        If they are buying something that they feel has a high education level you might be positioned to be first in line and they end up buying third in line after getting tired of researching and educating.

        Long story short...you've done everything but the marketing.

        Sure you can just put stuff in front of people and some will buy it, but the closer matched your offer is to what they were already looking for, wanted, needed, desired, and the better you can build up those buying factors, the more sales you get.

        So you need to evaluate why those people are at your site based on the keywords they searched, what level in the education process they are at, if even looking to buy at all, how is your competition reaching them, what is the motive that's driving them at that time, and all the other buying factors I mentioned.

        Perhaps you can tap in deeper to what they are looking for at that moment, maybe free info, or advice, resources, samples, etc and get them onto a list and then move the sales process along down the line by building up the buying factors.

        Maybe it's just a dead niche, or not enough traffic, etc. Some keywords people just aren't buying stuff. I search things all the time I have zero intention of buying through.

        Hope that helps a bit.
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  • Profile picture of the author sholelimo
    Why don't you invest in some reliable companies? I have made so much by just investing as lo as $10.
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  • Profile picture of the author LasseKohau
    To see the big picture, you have to start by the small picture.

    The IM´world is at one point fantastic (could fulfill all your dreams), but is also dangerous to another point ( could easily loose interest in making money, due to lack of succes" making no money".

    So, you have to imagine your dreams to see the big picure and start working at your small successes to make it.

    My best advice is;

    1) Start your IM career with focusing on one thing. Make a sale or two and get quick succes.

    Start by doing Forum Marketing - and things will get going.

    BR LASSE
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  • Profile picture of the author JeffMitchell
    Originally Posted by C A Perez View Post

    I apologize in advance for the length of this post. But, I am at my whits end. I've searched the web and can't find a definitive answer to my dilemna. I thought this would be the best place to ask.

    I am trying to get a handle on the "big" picture.

    I built 3 weblogs and they are not doing very well, as far as sales go, actually almost non-existent.One of the weblogs is listed on the first of page of google for the keywords I chose. So, I am asking myself: Why am I not getting some sales? Is it because the weblogs are not focused and they don't really have a sales page?

    Is it because they are more of a blog than a website? Most of my published articles point to the weblogs, some articles redirect directly to the vendor. I get some traffic, but no sales. I have been at this for 8 months. I jumped into having my own domain and building a "website" to market product by writing articles.

    I am in three niches, I have followed the same format with the same results.

    How do I test a new method? I know the obvious answer - try a different format. Test it. That begs the following questions:

    1) In Word Press, if you create a static page is that the "landing " or sales page of your website? If it is the sales page, is it designed like blatant sales copy?
    2) I hear about building a large site. Is that a whole site dedicated to one product? If not, does that mean that it is made up of many pages of different but related products or of unrelated products?
    3) If I am using WordPress to create the many page model above, then, are there no "posts", just the static page and many pages?
    4) In rebuilding the sites, do I leave the existing ones in place and start over with completely new material? Or, can I reuse the existing material and just redesign the format?

    I would appreciate any feedback.

    Carlos

    The big picture is whatever is in the mirror. You have built 3 blogs and they aren't working....Why not give 1 blog a strong focus and make it work...take those notes, implement them into the next....rinse and repeat.

    In rebuilding the site are you giving them a new theme such as a new wordpress theme? or are you actually building a completely new site.

    How long has your site/blog been up? How often do you post? Is the content original? How many different products are you trying to sell.

    Here is one big mis-conception about blogging that i feel and I am sure that others feel also who have been in this industry for a length of time. The money is not in the blog...it is the list that the blog creates.

    Answer a couple of the questions and maybe I can help guide you in a better direction.

    Jeff Mitchell
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  • Profile picture of the author warrich
    you can make a picture as much as but the question is how much you work during making a picture, same rule apply on online money making
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  • The "Big Picture" is this:

    Marketing is about people. Niches are not about keywords, links, products... they are about people.

    You are the "Carpenter" for your niche. Everything you use is just a tool to help you solve problems for the markets you identify.

    Think people, think behaviors, think problems and solutions to those problems.

    The overwhelming majority of people who are "Internet Marketing"... have no idea what marketing is at all.

    People, people, people.
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  • Profile picture of the author steve-wilkins
    Research Research Research!

    My friend I was in a similar position a few years ago, creating websites, writing articles, sending traffic, using targeted keywords and acheiving zero sales!

    What changed?

    I researched using google what other successful marketers were doing in my niche and to an extent copied them.

    If they had a high ranking, high traffic blog/website I would to an extent mirror what they did. I would contact them and ask them questions. This took a bit of work and research but it was well worth the time put in.

    Do you have any money you could invest in a mentor in your chosen niche? I got myself a mentor and have never looked back since.

    The key to being successful can be as simple as copying what another successful marketer has done.

    Also try not to focuss on too much at once. Perhaps have a real go at making on of your websites successful and once you have found the formula you can then apply it to your other websites.

    I wish you the best of luck and hope you fulfill your online dreams!

    Regards,
    Steve.
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    • Profile picture of the author C A Perez
      Thank you all for the excellent feedback. I will review what I am doing and take your comments and apply them. I know I can make this work. Some of your suggestions, I am already implementing. Perhaps, I need to be a little more patient.

      Thank you for your input.

      Carlos
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by C A Perez View Post

    I am trying to get a handle on the "big" picture.
    Business in a nutshell:

    If you give people what they want, you can be paid what that is worth.

    First, are you giving people what they want? If they don't want what you give them, you won't make any money.

    Second, what is that worth to them? If it's not worth enough, you won't make any money.

    A lot of people will complain that you can make people want what you have, and position your product or service to be higher-priced. This is true, but it is a lot more work than just giving them what they want at the price it is actually worth. You'll actually have better results by changing what you give them so it IS what they want and it's WORTH what you charge.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikec46
    hi ca mikec here i have got on googles first page in 3 days at the top and you click on it it takes you to the sales page you click on the buy button and it shows my affiliate nickname but no sales-- put grow taller in the google search engine iam the first one and you see what iam tailking about thanks mikec
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  • Profile picture of the author mrmoonlight
    Wow! This forum never ceases to amaze me. As a total noobe I know I will be learning more every time I visit. Its great to see so many of you answering these questions and really helping us new guys. Thank you all.
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    • Profile picture of the author s.chas
      A landing page is generally your sales page, most of the time I create my wordpress landers as posts so I can tag them. Content sites, I believe this is what you are referring to are large sites all dedicated to one niche, generally. As someone said above, marketing is about people, you have to find their triggers, speak to their emotions and always add urgency. The big picture came to me when I realized goog is not the only game in town when it comes to paid traffic. I got into display and had that ahh haa moment, cpv, facebook and media buys provide more traffic, and conversions than goog ever did.

      I don't have much of a reputation around here but if you ever need any advice I would be glad to kick down some knowledge. Best
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  • Profile picture of the author DamianK
    The big picture is learning how to master lead generation techniques. Having that mastered is the equivalent owning a restaurant and having thousands of people standing at your door and wondering if they want to eat there.

    Many won't, sure, but many will. And you have do virtually nothing to bring them in. Well, of course, you do a lot at first, but then after all the learning and setup is done, it's merely adding on or training or spicing up your marketing a bit, or even taking the time to learn something new that may even FURTHER boost your biz.

    And I REALLY hate to sound like an actual salesman, but in all honesty, you could use the product I am affiliated with. It does literal wonders. Just click the link below or contact me through my profile for any questions.

    If this is crossing sales boundaries of some sort it was purely unintentional but there's a good chance he could REALLY use this.
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