Crazy Story about Herbalife! Can it be done with Internet Marketing?

Hey man... I don't do herbalife, but my bro is part of Amway, he is making in excess of about 10 k per month, but it is a tough way to make a buck..

People are always suspicious of the "Pyrimad Scheme" even though i think those dark days are gone from these companies...( I think anyway)

And my brother tells me that the head guy in his group makes about 90 k per week!!!!

So i think it is true, and i think there would be some guys online making huge money as well. I think you need to have the drive and the mindset to succeed and you can do anything...

Tas

Be critical when looking at the figures quoted by any of these MLM companies.

Several years ago I had a client who earned a good living from one of them. She was the leader of a good team, selling a good product.

The key is that it is the people who get/got in first who earn the big money. They build up a big team and earn from each team member.

Those coming late to the party earn less. There are fewer customers to go round and fewer opportunities to build a team.

Another friend phoned me (also several years ago) to tell me she had found this "exciting opportunity blah blah blah". I carefully warned her that sales people for this particular company were ten a penny.

She wasn't happy with me - she quit after a few months as she was earning next to nothing.

They don't make that kind of money because the products are so great, they make it because their marketing and recruiting strategies. It's an MLM and they make money from the sales of the people they recruited and the people those people recruited. They have fairly regular high powered seminars where they get everyone all fired up with a bunch of hype about how much money they are making, which makes recruiting easier. There are online MLM's ,but I don't know anything about them.

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Are these monthly earnings sustainable? Have they been managing consistent earnings for months now?

People make wild exaggerations about the amount they earn. Take anything without proof and slam it in the can. (The golden garbage can rule.)

I used to fall trees for a living. It turned out when I checked with the contractor I was working for that I had by far the highest count on the crew.

But before I found that out I was always surprised by the counts the other fallers mentioned in the bar. I had seen enough to indicate they weren't true. I never mentioned mine, wasn't trying to impress anyone, but it turns out that is rare. sigh

Is there another planet around? This one is a bit goofy.

I swore off Network Marketing about 13 years ago after losing a bunch of money in a vitamin/water filter company.

I recently read "Multiple Streams Of Income" by Robert Allen again. One of the multiple streams that he recommends is Network Marketing.

I started keeping my eyes and ears open for a NM company that I liked. It took about 5 years but I finally found one. It's cell phone service. Everybody uses cell phones: men, women, kids, young and old. Nobody ever cancels their cell phone service either. This creates a nice monthly residual income.

There are no products to inventory, you can't have a garage full of cell phone service.

Click the top link in my signature for more information if you are interested.

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Dennis Graves

As I recall Herbalife has pretty strong rules about how you can
market online.

It's a viable company for an MLM. It's unlikely to fail and some
people do seem to like the products. Still, building any MLM
online is hard, hard work.

It's hard work offline too, but when you've got a local crew you
have a lot more leverage to keep them working than you would
with and online group scattered worldwide.

Consider that opportunity seekers, just like IMers, are always
looking for the hot new, easy money and you'll understand
why it's challenging to keep a MLM downline recruited online
focused on selling the MLM products.

I know a handful of people who make five figures per month in MLM. Every one of them is a friggin' sales machine. Every one of them works their ass off. Every one of them does it offline, belly to belly, and follows up relentlessly.

It ain't for everybody.

John

The only people that benefit from pyramid schemes like herbal life are the people at the top of the pyramid. Stay as far away from herbalife and amway as possible.

I'm looking for an additional income stream myself and although I'm not considering Herbalife I do like to companies that have products that people are using:

Send a card

Scentsy - My wife is already a sales associate and I see the huge potential with this company/product (wickless candles) especially if I start helping her online.

Tim

Wow - talk about the "way-back machine" - lol. I dated a girl ONCE who was totally into Amway - very "cult-ish" and quite frankly frightening - kind of like brainwashing stuff.

Way back (85ish?) I met someone doing Herbalife. It's ALL about MLM/pyramid stuff - but there are a lot of sheep in the field

Have been there. Stay away, not only because MLM has issues, but in the case of herbalife, not matter what they say, the product is crap.

Offline MLM programs are quite hard to get working. Most people just get into the whole recruiting and others into the selling. When you only recruit people who in turn recruit...no one makes money.

There ARE mlm programs that do work though. But I think herbalife is a bit saturated by now - or much more difficult to pitch rather.

quoted from executiv, MlM's do work. Main problem is managing so many god damn people. I almost got into Quixtar, but an overwelming surge of negativities scared me away. Besides.... nobody cares about selling vitamins and 5 dollar water bottles.

Earlier this year I joined another MLM. Anyone heard of Clear? The company that is partnering with Sprint for 4g internet. That product sold like water. Practically any technology does. My first month I signed up 14 people at $185 profit...totaling to $2590 in my pocket.

But I started getting tired of people's bs and slowly MLMs were screwing up my relationships with friends and still today I have a lot of people ignoring me.

So I stopped doing MLM and I jumped into network marketing ;-)

My 2 Cents. If anyone is to do MlM, do Clear because that's going to be the easiest one to do. Second you better have a rough skin because you're going to get a LOT of **** from people to deal with.

Years ago I was pitched by a (local) Top producer in Amway. Claims he was making 6 figures plus.

Being in the finance business, I asked to see his 1040's he files with the IRS. (I can check to make sure they are not phony returns)

HE Refused, said it was private...

I respond ... if you are going to make your income a sales pitch... then prove it.

No go!

I wouldnt mind promoting MLM if they all didnt require you to also sell a certain limit each month. IM tactics could easily be employed in MLM if all you are talking about is building landing pages to get people to sign up under you via a webpage. Anyone know of any MLM networks out there who allow you to promote and earn that way and don't force you to personally sell crap?

There are definitely some genuine MLM companies around where people can make a very good income whether they arrive early or late to the company's development. I was part of a good MLM company a few years back but was unable to continue due to personal difficulties. However my sponsors were incredibly kind and supportive to me despite the fact that I ended up being of no benefit to their business at all.

Some so called MLM is are a complete sham, but some are genuine.

According to this Herbalife report (it is from their own site) almost 90% of the active "leaders" make less than $500 a YEAR.

See with your own eyes:
http://opportunity.herbalife.com/Con...sen_030410.pdf

And the 50% gone inactive must be the ones churned out by the system...

MLM is a rough way to make a living. You need a constant flow of prospects to join and replace the ones who joined but dropped out a few weeks later when they realized no one was going to hand them a million dollars.

I know you are thinking that by using the internet and doing the landing page/opt-in/SEO-SERP routine you can use the entire world as your pipeline and find hundreds of willing propsects a day...

BUT...

Any legitimate MLM company will never allow you to do this. They have to maintain VERY strict control over their marketing message to keep the FTC people happy, and usually buried in their Rules and Regulations (that you SAID you read when you checked that little box) there is a paragraph or two that bans the use of the internet for just about any purpose when it comes to marketing their product line.

And who wants to go to all that work only to have your business shut down and your customers taken away because you broke a rule buried in the fine print?

Instead, find a niche you like and have some real life experience in, and start building a mailing list by putting out some quality free content. If you can build a list of 1,000 subscribers who will spend $100 a year on anything you have to offer, you're making 6 figures a year and doing a whole lot less work then you would ever do in Herballife or any other MLM/Network marketing company.