Losing subscribers after each broadcast to my mailing list.

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Hey guys

After each broadcast to my mailing list I'm losing my subscribers, and unfortunately around 12% of them.

I'm sending emails very seldom. These emails don't look like most of the importunate promo emails that are close to spam. Instead I'm trying to recommend something really useful to my subscribers, something that I've tested myself and something that is well worth their time and investment.

I just wonder, is it common amongst email marketers to lose some amount of their subscribers after each broadcast?

And as I said, this broadcast doesn't look spammy or something like that. I'm writing in a way like when I'm talking to a good friend of mine.

What is your experience with that sort of things guys.

Thanks for your time.

Andrew
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    12% is alarming . Very seldom could be the problem.

    I will not suggest a certain schedule but do suggest at least once a week contacting you list with something helpful. Warm them up to you and then warm them up to the product you will recommend .

    Just sending out a sales email very seldom will result in unsubs .
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      My usual unsubscribe rate for my list is about 1/4 of a percent, so I would
      say that something is definitely off somewhere.

      It could be a number of things and without more info, I'd only be guessing.

      But here are a few possibilities.

      1. Your list is poorly targeted. Meaning, people are opting in for one thing
      and you're offering them something else.

      2. These are freebie seekers (the niche) and once you pitch them a product,
      they're gone.

      3. They didn't find enough useful free information while being a member of
      your list, either in the form of a free report or a newsletter.

      4. You're pitching them too often OR not contacting them often enough
      and when you do, the info isn't what they expected OR it's a sales pitch
      and they're turned off.

      5. You haven't built the right relationship with them. Your style just
      doesn't appeal to this market. Imagine speaking to a health issues list
      the same way you would speak to a hip hop list.

      These are just a few of the possible problems. But yes, 12% is definitely
      not good.
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  • Profile picture of the author Online Bliss
    Usually if the same product is being promoted over and over almost daily
    and there is no variation I have had enough an they are deleted
    (subscription opt-out)
    These are usually the expensive new launches that everyone else is also promoting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sean Ski
    Seldom - maybe they forgot you - you should send emails a few days in a row in the beginning so that you can get your name in their heads and make sure its good content or else they'll just bail out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    . You haven't built the right relationship with them. Your style just
    doesn't appeal to this market. Imagine speaking to a health issues list
    the same way you would speak to a hip hop list.
    This point is overlooked a lot . My having a cup of coffee approach works well for most of my list but is terrible for some strictly business types .
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  • Profile picture of the author steve-wilkins
    You should make sure you keep in constant contact with them. I personally send an email to my subscribers every 4 days, usually offering free valuable information & videos.

    If I have a promotion coming up I will normally be in contact with my list a few days before warming them up to it, perhaps offering a free report or something of value.

    I generally as a rule send 3 free & useful emails to my list to every 1 promotion so that they do not feel that they are being sold to.

    Hope this helps!

    Regards,
    Steve.
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    • Profile picture of the author All Night Cafe
      Originally Posted by steve-wilkins View Post

      You should make sure you keep in constant contact with them. I personally send an email to my subscribers every 4 days, usually offering free valuable information & videos.

      If I have a promotion coming up I will normally be in contact with my list a few days before warming them up to it, perhaps offering a free report or something of value.

      I generally as a rule send 3 free & useful emails to my list to every 1 promotion so that they do not feel that they are being sold to.

      Hope this helps!

      Regards,
      Steve.
      Steve, I like how you do your marketing. There is a great
      lesson to be learned in your words.

      Good advise for all of us. Very simple but also very powerful.

      Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
    Try mixing in some content instead of all salesletters.

    If your subscribers just see your list as a pitchfest instead of an actual newsletter, it's proven they will leave.

    Don't just sell, teach.
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  • Profile picture of the author WhamSoft
    Hi Andrew,

    You never mentioned how many people are on your list, if you had a 100 people for example 12% could be quite a normal reaction because of the low numbers.

    From what you have said I thinks its your subscribers are not recognizing the mails your sending out, are many people opening the email and then unsubscribing?

    Maybe add a series of follow emails for you list at least once every seven days.
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  • Profile picture of the author abelacts
    I guess they have forgotten about you. Write to them more often. Don't just bombard them with product promotions but with useful content. Write to them as though they are your best friends.

    But then again we live in an imperfect world and we can't please everyone. There's so much that you can do to reduce opt-outs. Once you have tried your best, don't cry over those who unsubscribed. Steven has got a pretty list of possible reasons for this to happen. You don't want them anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author lilhay
    12% is way to many unsubscribes. I usually email my list every three days. Still doesn't make sense way over 10% of the list opts out..hhhhhmmm
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  • Profile picture of the author David Tugwell
    12% is extremely concerning and should be ringing large alarm bells. Without seeing your e-mail campaign, it is difficult to work out what is the cause.

    I have a list of over 25 000 that has been innactive now for a few years. I am about to launch back into that niche so this is the process I am using. (After all it has been that long sice I've contacted them, they probably don't remember who I am.)

    1. I have sent them e-mail thanking them for their support and offering a new FREE newsletter (Fresh List) in the niche they originally subscribed for as a "Thank-you" for our business in the past.

    2. I have given them a FREE eBook for confirming their re-subscription.

    3. I am currently getting ready to send them regular (1-2 days appart) quality content, training and Advice, Including as many FREE resources as possible for the first 14-21 days. (eBooks, Software, etc)

    4. After they have re-subscribed for 14-21 days, I will reduce the e-mail flow to about 4-5 days appart. Each e-mail will have some amazing quality content and some will have free resources, some will have budget resources and others will be big ticket. I tend not to have more than 2-3 promotional e-mails per month and usually reserve big ticket e-mails for once every 2-3 months.

    That is the essential process that I use. So far I have only had about 25 cancel their subscription (about .1%) which is about where I like to keep my cancellation rate. And this is a list of people who I haven't spoke to for a few years.

    There are a few key tips that you might like to consider in your e-mail campaigns:

    -Keep regular contact with good quality content
    -Freebies make happy subscribers
    -If you're going to promote a product, believe in it, Use it, and give them the reason they need it and why you're not just selling them something to make money.
    -Have some fun with your list. Give them somewhere to feel like their part of a group/community (a blog is a great way to do this.)

    If all else fails, try asking your subscribers what they think of your newsletter/ezine. Ask them what they like the most, and the least. Use this information to guide your future mailings.

    Hope This Helps

    Dave
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  • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
    Hi Andrew,

    I'll offer my take purely from the standpoint of a subscriber. I don't
    have a marketing list.

    I really think most people have identified what the issue most likely
    is - not having a solid enough relationship due to several reasons.

    - Infrequent contact

    - Weak relationship from an imbalance of promotional/non-promo
    emails. (Too many promos, not enough non-promos.)

    I subscribe to a lot of people for various reasons. One thing I've
    noticed for a very long time is that most marketers, I've come in
    contact with, are lacking in the relationship building department.

    I'm not a freebie-seeker at all, and I routinely ignore a freebie
    report only because most do not contain valuable information, for
    me at least.

    So it's not like the non-promo emails need to contain some kind
    of "freebie" offer. But I'd say they do need to make some kind of
    valid and useful point. Even the kind of thing that makes you
    think, "hmmm, I didn't know that." Doesn't have to be earth shattering.
    It's hard to come up with earth shattering once a week.

    I'm not quite sure what's going on about this next point. Maybe it's
    just coincidental. But in the past several weeks I've received emails
    from marketers who have not contacted me in a long time. I've
    also received emails from marketers who I unsubscribed from months
    ago and in some cases over a year ago. One of the latter category
    was from perhaps the most famous copywriter on the planet.
    Of course I sent him a sarcastic email about it, and I unsubscribed
    again.

    And it's funny, maybe, because I originally unsubscribed because he,
    and his spouse with a separate list, were emailing me multiple times
    a day with promos. Sure, his stuff is good. But I really got very tired
    of it.

    So all these "rekindled" relationships got the immediate squash from
    me.

    I'll confess something, I was on your list a long time ago, and I
    unsubscribed because you sent promos too soon after I bought
    your WSO. I'm really not trying to embarrass you- please believe
    that. I am trying to give you straight feedback about your question.

    But this is something 99% of marketers do, in my opinion and
    experience. You buy from them, and they think it's a total green
    light to start sending promos. It's not a green light. It's like I've
    given you my phone number and it's ok to call me. I don't know
    you well enough to go out on a date, not just yet. So you can
    call, we'll talk and get to know each other a bit.

    That's exacly what it's like.

    But the good news for you is now you know. You probably knew
    this before, but maybe didn't quite realize what you were doing. Or
    maybe you thought you were building relationships when actually
    you were not. A misperception, so to speak.

    So, in your emails - just be your self. Be cool. Talk about the common
    reason people are on your list, the reason they're on your list. If it's
    marketing, or seo in your case, then talk about that. Talk about news
    in your industry, new developments, implications for new developments.

    Just be normal and try to give one piece of information that could be
    of value to people. Maybe talk a little about your self, something from
    your life, etc.

    I used to write emails for a well-known marketer, a few years ago. He
    would send the greatest emails, and his list just loved them. He told
    me he had few unsubs - ever. One thing he did was share experiences
    from his life. He also would tell embarrassing stories about himself. You
    know, dumb things he did unintentionally, of course.

    Talking about those things de-mystified him to his list. In my opinion,
    it made him seem "just like them." Right? And when you achieve that,
    you're all buddies and good friends. Right?

    And you'll buy something from a good buddy who you trust. Right?

    Right.
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  • Profile picture of the author 1life1fire
    Offer your subscribers to give you Feedback...

    Sometimes I send a short email asking my subscribers if they have found anything online that is helping them make more money. And if they have found something to SEND IT TO ME to take a look at it myself. (yeah... they send me their ads real quick to

    Then in exchange... I send them something that I've found.

    Just a thought...

    One thing is for sure... you can never stop looking for new subscribers. The hunt is on at all times.

    Hope this helps!
    Dan
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  • Profile picture of the author John Atkins
    Originally Posted by Irmscher View Post


    I just wonder, is it common amongst email marketers to lose some amount of their subscribers after each broadcast?
    Yes, everyone loses some subscribers. 12% is pretty high though,
    I usually lose 2%-5% after each broadcast.
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  • Profile picture of the author Deep S Walia
    There is some good info on here! I think I will use some myself.

    I think the key points have been mentioned a few times already but definitely; good content, regular email with ratio of 1:4/5 promotions as well a targeted mails, as well a frequent contact. I guess interacting with them in someway or another is very good - a survey, or a on going blog etc... Nice Mr Tugwell!

    I hope you got a much as I did Irmscher!
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