WHY MEN FAIL (and Women too) Are You A Cynic? Eye Openig Article

by Zanti
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I can across this article in this month's issue of Men's Health Magazine.

The Hazards of Cynicism

Why Men Fail
Hypersuccessful men in sports, business, and entertainment all lack a trait you may possess -- one that could be holding you back.

I found this to be a really interesting article especially in relationship to Internet Marketing.

What the article goes on to talk about is that the majority of successful people in any industry tend not to be cynics - "a person who believes that people are motivated purely by self-interest rather than acting for honorable or unselfish reasons."

Why I find this so interesting in relationship to IM is that I've read many post here and other places where the focus has only been on self-interest and getting the most money out of your customer as you can. The "don't leave any money on the table" syndrome.

I think most of us who have been involved with IM for even a short amount of time have had an occasion or two when we've been taken advantage of; Either from poor or non-existent customer support after a purchase or being just plain ripped off. I know I have.

I like to think that I'm not in the minority by giving my customers the highest quality possible in every product I sell and providing excellence customer support. I also don't hold the belief that I have to drain every last dollar out of my customer. It's not my nature to do that and I just don't think it's necessary in order to have a successful business.

I guess in many ways I've been very fortunate to have had and helped create many successful clients through my consulting work. When I look back on these successful men and women, I can honestly say that each of them were not cynics.

I'm not talking about if that "hope'y change'y stuff is working for you" I know it works and see the results in the successful clients I've had.

A quote from the article: "from billionaire CEOs and future Hall of Fame athletes to doctors and teachers you've never heard of -- that if successful people have one common trait, it's an utter lack of cynicism. The world owes them nothing. They go out and find what they need without asking for permission; they're driven, talented, and work through negatives by focusing on the positives."

There's been a number of recent post here talking about the poor quality of many of the WSO's that are currently running. Could these be products created by those that have the trait of cynicism?

I think you'll find the article to be very interesting reading and would like to know your thoughts.

In Gratitude and Success,

Brian
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I'm cynical.
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    • Profile picture of the author Robert Puddy
      I think you missed the point of the article completely and reversed the meaning to suit your argument.

      A quote from the article: "from billionaire CEOs and future Hall of Fame athletes to doctors and teachers you've never heard of -- that if successful people have one common trait, it's an utter lack of cynicism. The world owes them nothing. They go out and find what they need without asking for permission; they're driven, talented, and work through negatives by focusing on the positives."

      this has nothing to do with any product they sell, or the company they run... This says more about the negative attitude of customers being a detriment to their success (you and people like you)

      They understand that if they buy something or do something that didnt work, then they need to go out and find the thing that will work.

      They will always look to leave no money on the table as you put it.

      If you se scams every where you will never be successful

      another quote for you to think about

      "Rich people admire other successful people; poor people resent them. If you view wealthy people as bad..., you can never be rich..."
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by Robert Puddy View Post

        "Rich people admire other successful people; poor people resent them. If you view wealthy people as bad..., you can never be rich..."
        Sounds like just another quote ... pretty meaningless to me. I admire people for who they are .... not what they have. Rich, poor ... makes no difference to me. I look for traits that can't be acquired with wealth.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
          That article is a great read, thanks for posting it Brian.

          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          Sounds like just another quote ... pretty meaningless to me. I admire people for who they are .... not what they have. Rich, poor ... makes no difference to me. I look for traits that can't be acquired with wealth.
          There's actually sound psychology behind that quote, which, if I'm not mistaken, is taken from multimillionaire T Harv Eker's book, Secrets of the Millionaire Mind.
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

            That article is a great read, thanks for posting it Brian.

            There's actually sound psychology behind that quote, which, if I'm not mistaken, is taken from multimillionaire T Harv Eker's book, Secrets of the Millionaire Mind.
            There may well be sound psychology, but I value relationships and friendships more than money and I want those relationships to be grounded in character attributes that I admire. I don't hate rich people for being rich, but I certainly don't admire Bernie Madoff and the rest of the Wall Street, political, and Corporate crooks purely for being wealthy.

            Sorry, but I'm very tainted at the moment due to all the bailouts on the taxpayer dollar of these corrupt and greedy "wealthy people", particularly when no sooner do they get a bailout, they are lining their pockets with taxpayer money in the form of undeserved "bonuses".
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

            That article is a great read, thanks for posting it Brian.

            There's actually sound psychology behind that quote, which, if I'm not mistaken, is taken from multimillionaire T Harv Eker's book, Secrets of the Millionaire Mind.
            There may well be sound psychology, but I value relationships and friendships more than money and I want those relationships to be grounded in character attributes that I admire. I don't hate rich people for being rich, but I certainly don't admire Bernie Madoff and the rest of the Wall Street, political, and Corporate crooks purely for being wealthy.

            Sorry, but I'm very tainted at the moment due to all the bailouts on the taxpayer dollar of these corrupt and greedy "wealthy people", particularly when no sooner do they get a bailout, they are lining their pockets with taxpayer money in the form of undeserved "bonuses".

            Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post


            I don't think you're cynical - not if you're using the definition in the OP. I certainly believe you're skeptical - i.e. tending to question accepted opinions - but that's a healthy trait to have, especially in our business.
            Frank
            Maybe skeptical is the right word. Not sure, but perhaps all the bank and bailout corruption has made by skepticism morph into cynicism ... don't know really, but "wealthy people" are just not something I admire right now, unless they have other outstanding characteristics that deserve that admiration.
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    • Profile picture of the author Zanti
      Hey sbucciarel, are you really or do you just want us to think that?

      I totally agree ArbyDee2, I think it can help a lot of IM'ers by taking a look at how they run their business.

      Thanks,

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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by Zanti View Post

        Hey sbucciarel, are you really or do you just want us to think that?

        I totally agree ArbyDee2, I think it can help a lot of IM'ers by taking a look at how they run their business.

        Thanks,

        Brian
        I'd have to say yes ... I am cynical.

        I'm cynical when I see unsubstantiated claims, wild promises, income proof screenshots, online testimonials, promises of great wealth without working (in my pajamas), etc.

        But I have to admit, I didn't read the article, so I will go back and read it.
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  • Profile picture of the author 1960Texan
    The first thing that popped into my mind when I read the OP was Conan O'Brien's exit speech from the Tonight Show. I'm paraphrasing, but he basically implored the audience not to be cynical, as he found it to be the least attractive and least useful trait that a person could have. He went on to say that if you worked hard at something you loved, amazing things could happen.
    I agree with the sentiment. While I still backslide into cynical thoughts from time to time, I'm nowhere near as negative as I used to be. I used to think that "The Power of Positive Thinking" was utter bull, until one day I had a moment of extreme self-awareness and decided to give being positive an honest effort before dismissing it out of hand.
    It worked. I didn't hear angels sing, or win the lottery. Julia Roberts didn't knock on my door and ask me out on a date (although this was around the same time that she and Lyle Lovett got married, so technically it was possible). No, none of those things happened, but here's what did: I became a happier person. I started attracting the right people into my life because of my brighter outlook, which made me even happier.
    Am I more successful financially because of my less cynical existence? I'll never know for sure, but that doesn't matter. What matters is that I've enjoyed the last fifteen or so years of my life far more than I did during all of those years when I was negative.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zanti
    Hmm, Robert,

    I'm not sure at all where you are coming from or the assumptions you are making.

    The majority of my career has been working with and being friends of very wealthy people. So your last quote has nothing at all in relation to me. I actually try and make "I" statement instead of "you" statements. The same as I don't "should" on anyone either.

    I also don't see the quote I listed as saying anything about the negative attitude of customers being a detriment to their success ( not sure what you mean by "you and people like you" sounds like some latent negative stuff to me, since you don't know anything about me. But I digress.

    What that quote means to me is that successful do is take full responsibility for their actions and accept full accountability to change whatever negative situation they encounter by focusing on the positive and not the negative. It's about who they are a person, the integrity, truth and honesty they hold.

    The majority of the successful people I know are never interested in "not leaving something on the table." Not leaving something on the table is a mindset of scarcity and not one of abundance. I chose abundance.

    The only thing I would agree with in what you've said is: "They understand that if they buy something or do something that didnt work, then they need to go out and find the thing that will work."

    Oh, there is one other think I would agree with: "If you see scams every where you will never be successful." I don't think I or anyone yet who has posted has said anything like this. What I'm saying is exactly this.

    If you come across a negative anything that affects you, there is always something positive that you can find from it, depending on the way you frame the experience. Again, that's what successful people do. In my opinion.

    I find it interesting that what I thought was a very positive post about something I think many in IM could use and be seen as someone in such a negative light. Interesting indeed.

    I hope that others who read this post and read the article will find just that. Something positive to take away.

    In Gratitude and Success,

    Brian
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  • Profile picture of the author AdZaz
    I think the article is really talking about the self image of the successful entrepreneur.

    The fake-it-till-you-make-it positive attitude is not just a good idea for any entrepreneur it is a must. No matter what your idea and where you pitch it people will question, poke, prod, and dismember your dream before your eyes without a second thought. The successful people have a good argument/response to these nay-sayers, give it politely, and move on with their dream.

    If someone can convince you that your idea will flop with a few cynical comments then you did not believe in the idea to begin with and it was destined to fail....

    Originally Posted by sbucciarel

    I'm cynical when I see unsubstantiated claims, wild promises, income proof screenshots, online testimonials, promises of great wealth without working (in my pajamas), etc.
    This to me is not cynicism, it is an educated shopper who has seen some of the crap being peddled out there and does not want to be sucked in by the hype again. sbucciarel, when I am ready to post my first WSO here I may just quote this!

    Caveat emptor.

    Just my $0.02
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Hi Brian,

      Thanks for linking to that article - it was a good read.

      I've also noticed the absence of that trait in successful people. Cynicism tends to blot out belief, hope, trust and optimism and fills the bearer with energy-sapping negative emotions.

      It's also used to mask a sense of entitlement and can be a self-justification for failure, or for not even trying - an outward apportioning of blame rather than an inward one.

      I'm a bit confused by Robert's comments, because I suspect that he accepts the premise of the article; that we are each of us responsible for how we react to our circumstances and environment. I'm sure he, like you, doesn't espouse an entitlement mindset.


      Hi Suzanne,

      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      I'd have to say yes ... I am cynical.
      I'm cynical when I see unsubstantiated claims, wild promises, income proof screenshots, online testimonials, promises of great wealth without working (in my pajamas), etc.
      I don't think you're cynical - not if you're using the definition in the OP. I certainly believe you're skeptical - i.e. tending to question accepted opinions - but that's a healthy trait to have, especially in our business.


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      • Profile picture of the author Robert Puddy
        Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

        I'm a bit confused by Robert's comments, because I suspect that he accepts the premise of the article; that we are each of us responsible for how we react to our circumstances and environment. I'm sure he, like you, doesn't espouse an entitlement mindset.

        Frank
        You werent confused you got it

        I was a bit long winded because it was late here. most peoples cynasism makes them see darkness where there is light, if only they opened their eyes to the possibilities.

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  • Profile picture of the author Zanti
    Hey Frank,

    glad you liked the article, and I think you're right on. There is a difference between being cynical and being skeptical.

    You're also right in that I don't buy into the entitlement mindset. That's one of the main things that has keep so many people down and give them an excuse to blame someone or something outside of themselves.

    For me, I'm a Man of Honor. I hold true to this "My Life Experience Is Not My Life." It took me a while to fully understand this. I had a life teacher who used to pound this into me. I don't talk about this much at all, but when I was first diagnosed with cancer a few years ago, I saw it as something negative.

    When I was able to change my viewing place, I was able to see how my life had changed for the better. I saw the love that I have in my life and it allowed me to really go for my dreams as I've never done before. It allowed me to take full responsibility and ownership of whatever I created in my life.

    I stopped placing blame on things external to me.

    Now if I had made cancer my life, then I would use that for all kinds of excuses for any negative circumstance that I encounter. I don't, because it's just part of my journey. It's a life experience but it's not my life!

    When I look at successful people I generally find that they have had many failures in their life. They don't focus or lose a lot of energy to these failures, they examine and learn from them and move on. Taking whatever positive they can from them. They're just life experiences, not their life.

    Thanks for your take on this Frank.

    Brian
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  • Profile picture of the author silvervixen
    While I am a believer in positive thinking in that it helps you to stay motivated and looking for ways to succeed, I believe there is also a place for cynicism. This is especially true in the world of IM.

    If cynicism helps you to steer clear of scams and saves you lost time and money, then that's a good thing. It's more or a balance issue: stay positive, but also be smart about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
    Well, I personally have friends who are very successful and friends who are successful and famous and all are very different on this subject.

    I have one friend who is a well known athlete and another who was but is now retired and both are very different people. Despite the immediate assumption that the "old curmudgeon" is the cynic, it is the younger man that is very cynical.

    Same with a couple of writers I know. Both are well known and very successful and again, one is very cynical and the other is the "half full" person.

    I guess I'm saying that I don't believe that the "cynic trait" has as much to do with your success or failure as other qualities.

    I personally believe that persistence is probably the most important aspect of success.
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