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by Dana_W 50 replies
Affiliate Marketing on Twitter - Does it Belong?

Interesting post on affiliate spamming on Twitter. Joel Comm is apparently asking his affiliates to post a Tweet which says "Get Adsense Secrets For Free!" with a link to his adsense book. And about 30 of them are doing this.

I think this is a TERRIBLE idea. I know I sound like a broken record saying this, but joining Twitter is like joining a local business person's networking group. Imagine you're a car salesman walking into a meeting of people you barely know and aggressively shoving a contract in front of people and asking them to sign it. They're going to flee in horror.

Now imagine letting them get to know what a great, honest, guy you are, and that way - when they're ready to buy a car, they'll want to buy from you.

twitter is just such a great tool, I hate to see people mis-use it.
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  • Profile picture of the author tommygadget
    Spammers abound everywhere. People with big lists and lots of followers should be more careful with their advice and not look to always spam the various free and interesting sites on the net.

    TomG.
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    • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
      Yep - it was bound to happen Dana, all the more reason to follow more established, higher quality tweeters, there are many good examples perhaps we should be posting so people are better educated as to the proper way of using Twitter.

      Jeff
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      • Profile picture of the author marlon
        Dana,

        First of all your Twitter report is awesome.

        It should be required reading for anyone wanting to build a list of followers on Twitter.

        In response to what Joel is doing, it's a different scenario.

        1. All of Joel's people are on his list because they love Joel. Far as I know the people there
        followed him of their own freewill.

        2. This is probably true of his affiliates also.

        In other words, if they had built their list with YOUR method, this wouldn't be appropriate
        because it's a cultivation method.

        But if it's other marketers who follow them because they like what they do, I don't
        see an issue with it unless it REALLY gets out of hand.

        Overall, I agree with your comments. Twitter is a community.

        Marlon
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    • Profile picture of the author Tuzic
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      hi,

      yes but so many do it, & so many people even on here recommend using twitter for promoting their businesses, as though it is becoming a must to twit!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Joel probably knows what he is doing, I guess. It is all about testing to see if it will work.

    Tal
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  • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
    It's easy to "unfollow" the twerps, then you don't have
    to put up with their short term twerping.

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author tommygadget
      Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post

      It's easy to "unfollow" the twerps, then you don't have
      to put up with their short term twerping.

      John
      True, but don't you hate it when a fun and interesting resource gets cluttered up with crap (did I say crap?) that you have to wade through because of those inconsiderate twits (or tweets, in this case)?

      TomG.
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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
        Originally Posted by tommygadget View Post

        True, but don't you hate it when a fun and interesting resource gets cluttered up with crap (did I say crap?) that you have to wade through because of those inconsiderate twits (or tweets, in this case)?

        TomG.

        I agree I remember the day all those tweets started showing up. I knew what was up.

        Frank Bruno
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    • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
      Yes this sort of thing is bound to happen.

      I think Joel must be working off numbers, as if 100 people post spam messages and he gets 4 sales from it he profts.

      Although not good though!
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  • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
    Unsubscribe - They will run out of audience unless they change.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
    I know that whenever a really big name marketer does something, a lot of people assume that it must be a good idea because this person MUST know what he's doing or he wouldn't be so successful, right?

    However, everyone makes mistakes, and in this case I really think that Joel Comm made a mistake. AND I think it will hurt his affiliates as well - a lot of people on Twitter will unfollow them. I'm sure they will get a few sales from this, but I doubt the loss of trust and respect will be worth it in the long run. Hey, if they were making thousands of bucks off of this method I'd say it's a great idea but I really, really doubt the affiliates are making that much.

    I mean, I follow mostly internet marketers on Twitter and THEY are the ones complaining about this and saying they will unfollow. It's not that I am against marketing, or the people I follow are against marketing - it's just doing it at the right place and time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
    Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

    Interesting post on affiliate spamming on Twitter. Joel Comm is apparently asking his affiliates to post a Tweet which says "Get Adsense Secrets For Free!" with a link to his adsense book. And about 30 of them are doing this.

    I think this is a TERRIBLE idea.
    I agree. I follow Joel Comm and, apparently, too many of his affiliates!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Fabian Tan
    People mis-using it? If you looked at some of the recommendations, they might be useful for growing your business.

    Fabian
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  • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
    That is true. If they get a lot of sales and don't lose a lot of followers, I guess it's worth it. I know I tend to unfollow people when I see links like that but I am just one person. I also have mentioned on other threads that I hate most internet marketing videos, but they are thriving, so someone must benefit from them!
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  • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
    The market will decide.

    Some big names (no one person in particular) got big from past victories and that old business model does not work for them anymore. They are petrified about what to do now. They are forced to try and learn new ways - they are actually the followers now. The momentum of past success will only get them so far.

    I think it is sad when good systems get manipulated for greed. It is however a reality and people can VOTE with the follow / unfollow button. As Dr Mani mentioned Twitter is very permission based and people will reject unwelcome advances.

    It will become the environment that people permit it to become.
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    • Profile picture of the author David_Thompson
      Dana, I think the spamming is just started
      everyday now I get these someone sending
      me sex stuff to follow them.

      It's only the start..

      --David
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      • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
        Originally Posted by David_Thompson View Post

        Dana, I think the spamming is just started
        everyday now I get these someone sending
        me sex stuff to follow them.

        It's only the start..

        --David
        I hope it doesn't continue like that in the future. You know you can block people, right?
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        • Profile picture of the author David_Thompson
          Dana, sure I know how to block them but it's like if
          they are spidering other peoples profile and extracing
          users and doing mass email or something like that...

          --David
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    • Profile picture of the author Kristi Lane
      Originally Posted by James Schramko View Post

      The market will decide.

      It will become the environment that people permit it to become.
      What I love about Twitter is that my Twitter experience is exactly what I want it to be at any given moment. I can instantly unfollow negativity, agenda-pushers or spammers, and at the same time delve deeper into the conversations I want to see or participate in by following or searching.

      Kristi
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      • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
        Originally Posted by Kristi Lane View Post

        What I love about Twitter is that my Twitter experience is exactly what I want it to be at any given moment. I can instantly unfollow negativity, agenda-pushers or spammers, and at the same time delve deeper into the conversations I want to see or participate in by following or searching.

        Kristi
        Yes! - I am a fascinated observer of how Twitter will unfold
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    • Profile picture of the author writergirlk
      I've been on twitter for over a year now and I would have to agree with this - it isn't good to put an affiliate link in a tweet.

      However, I believe it's okay to self promote as long as you participate in the site and the conversations there. I will often leave a link to my newest post or article after I've written. If I am working on my blog, changing the theme or making a post I'll say "working on changing the theme to my blog" and leave a link.

      This is self promotion but I don't believe it to be a terrible thing when framed in that way. I share random links, tweet my thoughts, explain what my cat is doing, and update my blogs and articles. I write what I feel like writing on a given day.
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      • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
        Dana.. stop spamming me with your "Willhoit's recipes for burning yourself" affiliate links :rolleyes:



        Peace

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        • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
          Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

          Dana.. stop spamming me with your "Willhoit's recipes for burning yourself" affiliate links :rolleyes:



          Peace

          Jay
          I only have ONE recipe for burning yourself: toss fish into sizzling oil rather than setting it in gently. I just keep sending you the same affiliate link over and over again because you haven't bought yet.

          I completely agree that it's okay to use Twitter to promote your own stuff, as long as it's mixed in with some socializing. Whenever I write a new blog post I use Twitter to send traffic to it, and I frequently talk about being a ghostwriter on Twitter. It's just the idea that Joel Comm is not only having his affiliates promote on Twitter but he's having them all post the same spammy looking link, that astounds me. You think he'd be a little more subtle.
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          • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
            Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

            I only have ONE recipe for burning yourself: toss fish into sizzling oil rather than setting it in gently. I just keep sending you the same affiliate link over and over again because you haven't bought yet.

            I completely agree that it's okay to use Twitter to promote your own stuff, as long as it's mixed in with some socializing. Whenever I write a new blog post I use Twitter to send traffic to it, and I frequently talk about being a ghostwriter on Twitter. It's just the idea that Joel Comm is not only having his affiliates promote on Twitter but he's having them all post the same spammy looking link, that astounds me. You think he'd be a little more subtle.
            You're spot on here you know Dana..

            I too link to my new posts etc, and my stats show me that people follow my links so it is good to share our interests..

            BUT

            Every affiliate and his dog tweeting links like crazy is VERY annoying and only today I have stopped following 3 of the Joel Comm fan club

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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

      In TweetyBot, which will be out in beta in a day or two (I hope <gulp>), rather than blocking people, we've provided an option to ignore them. This way you don't lose a follower who is suffering from temporary insanity, LOL.

      As a marketing model, Twitter has huge potential if done properly. Sending 100 people to spam it with affiliate links is not leadership in any sense of the word. It's plain old stupidity and I would NEVER follow a self-proclaimed "Leader" who suggested doing it.

      I've got no problem with marketers like Willie C., who regularly provides short updates to various things - he's doing it right. It's not annoying, it's informative and not going to cause people to block him.

      Remember that as social media, it doesn't matter how good you think you are - it's how good those who follow or you're following think you are. The "Vote" is just as easy to take away as it is given.
      I was going to agree with you Mike until I read the part about Willie

      I just started on twitter a few days ago in the first few days I was on there I saw a substantial amount of tweets from Willie.

      When I looked closer they appear to be pretty much all promotional which left a sour taste in my mouth.

      It wasn't just the tweets themselves, but the number of tweets with the same type of message.

      I think twitter is a great medium to get messages out but I think there is a point where too many promotional types posts are overkill.

      Frank Bruno
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
    Are you following those people? Then please stop falsely calling their posts "spam".

    Why do people who don't own Twitter think they can impose their vision of it on everyone else?
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    • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
      Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood View Post

      Are you following those people? Then please stop falsely calling their posts "spam".

      Why do people who don't own Twitter think they can impose their vision of it on everyone else?
      You do seem to be obsessed with people using the word "spam" in a way that you don't like. Last time I checked, we do still have freedom of speech here, so I - and others - are going to continue using the word "spam" in the way that I see fit.

      And the way many people use the word "spam" these days is to describe communication that is perceived to be annoyingly, excessively commercial.

      Here is FTC commentary on whether an email is to be considered commercial in nature. Yes, I know Twitter is not email. However, if you asked the vast majority of people who sign up to Twitter if they want to follow people who are going to be sending out commercial sales tweets, I am positive they would say no.

      "The final Rule sets forth criteria for determining the primary purpose of various kinds of e-mail messages. These criteria include:

      * For e-mail messages that contain only the commercial advertisement or promotion of a commercial product or service (“commercial content”), the primary purpose of the message will be deemed to be commercial;

      * For e-mail messages that contain both commercial content and “transactional or relationship” content as set forth in the Act’s definition of “transactional or relationship message” and in the final Rule, the primary purpose of the message will be deemed to be commercial if either: 1) a recipient reasonably interpreting the subject line of the e-mail would likely conclude that the message contains commercial content; or 2) the e-mail’s “transactional or relationship” content does not appear in whole or substantial part at the beginning of the body of the message;

      * For e-mail messages that contain both commercial content and content that is neither “commercial” nor “transactional or relationship,” the primary purpose of the message will be deemed to be commercial if either: 1) a recipient reasonably interpreting the subject line of the message would likely conclude that the message contains commercial content; or 2) a recipient reasonably interpreting the body of the message would likely conclude that the primary purpose of the message is commercial. Factors relevant to this interpretation include the placement of commercial content in whole or in substantial part at the beginning of the body of the message; the proportion of the message dedicated to commercial content; and how color, graphics, type size, and style are used to highlight commercial content; and
      #


      # For e-mail messages that contain only “transactional or relationship” content, the message will be deemed to have a “transactional or relationship” primary purpose"

      The full name of the CAN-SPAM act is: Controlling the Assault of NON-SOLICITED Pornography And Marketing Act of 2003

      Emphasis on the non-solicited.

      The premise of Twitter is that people are posting about what they are doing or thinking right at the moment. So when I sign up to follow someone on Twitter, I do not want or expect to get a sales pitch sent to me. I feel that it is UNSOLICITED.

      I know that some people disagree.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Montgomery
    Another guru for ya.

    Just goes to show you that so many of the
    big names know very little about how to make
    the most of something great.
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  • Profile picture of the author dubliRus
    Great example Dana - I will have to look at Twitter in more detail. Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
      Originally Posted by dubliRus View Post

      Great example Dana - I will have to look at Twitter in more detail. Thanks
      Twitter has given me a ton of ghostwriting business. I highly recommend it.
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  • Profile picture of the author jcomm
    Hey gang,

    We're marketers. We TEST things.

    For those who don’t know what we did with this experiment, let me explain it.

    We did NOT use the API to “spam” Twitter. There was nothing shady here.

    What we DID do was set up a link in our shopping cart system (Infusion) and notify our affiliates that they could Tweet the AdSense Secrets book promotion in two clicks.

    Basically, we provided the text “Download Joel Comm’s AdSense book FREE” followed by the affiliate link with their ID embedded.

    When they clicked the link it automatically took them to Twitter.

    This is the url format for a pre-written tweet.

    Twitter

    Roll your mouse over to see the link.

    Once the link is clicked, the user only needs click the UPDATE button. Voila.

    We sent an email to our affiliates with their custom link and explained how it worked. We had no idea if they were on Twitter or not, but turns out a lot of them are. They aren’t even necessarily my followers, just affiliates.

    These are people who choose to Twitter because as my affiliates they believe in my products. They are NOT spammers. These were deliberate tweets.

    What we SHOULD have done is provided a number of different pre-written tweets AND encouraged them to change the text to best fit their voice.

    And please note, people ALWAYS promote things on Twitter via tinyurl and other services. We just asked a lot of people to promote so there was a lot of tweets. But what’s the difference?

    Here’s one thing we know for sure…

    As Twitter continues to grow, people and businesses will seek to use it commercially. You can count on it. The question is, what will be the best practices that lead to success in this arena. I think the marketplace will naturally dictate in the long run, but you can expect to see people take things way beyond our little experiment.

    And for those who are wondering… yes, it was very effective
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    • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
      Guys, if you didn't notice, Joel Comm came on here and answered us! I appreciate it.

      Hey, I will say this much for Joel - he's following me on Twitter. I truly hate it when I see a major marketer on there with 5000 people following them and they follow like 12 people. I think it's incredibly egotistic and arrogant.

      Joel, I can't argue with success. But I agree with you that at the VERY least you should have had people vary their message.

      I personally get annoyed when people tweet about other people's products on Twitter. I am on there to interact with people and hear about what THEY are doing.

      Yes, I tweet about being a ghostwriter because it gets me clients. Yes, when I create a new blog post, I tweet about it. But that's me talking about what I'm doing.

      I have to admit that I'm kind of surprised that you were successful with this approach.

      Originally Posted by jcomm View Post

      Hey gang,

      We're marketers. We TEST things.

      For those who don’t know what we did with this experiment, let me explain it.

      We did NOT use the API to “spam” Twitter. There was nothing shady here.

      What we DID do was set up a link in our shopping cart system (Infusion) and notify our affiliates that they could Tweet the AdSense Secrets book promotion in two clicks.

      Basically, we provided the text “Download Joel Comm’s AdSense book FREE” followed by the affiliate link with their ID embedded.

      When they clicked the link it automatically took them to Twitter.

      This is the url format for a pre-written tweet.

      Twitter

      Roll your mouse over to see the link.

      Once the link is clicked, the user only needs click the UPDATE button. Voila.

      We sent an email to our affiliates with their custom link and explained how it worked. We had no idea if they were on Twitter or not, but turns out a lot of them are. They aren’t even necessarily my followers, just affiliates.

      These are people who choose to Twitter because as my affiliates they believe in my products. They are NOT spammers. These were deliberate tweets.

      What we SHOULD have done is provided a number of different pre-written tweets AND encouraged them to change the text to best fit their voice.

      And please note, people ALWAYS promote things on Twitter via tinyurl and other services. We just asked a lot of people to promote so there was a lot of tweets. But what’s the difference?

      Here’s one thing we know for sure…

      As Twitter continues to grow, people and businesses will seek to use it commercially. You can count on it. The question is, what will be the best practices that lead to success in this arena. I think the marketplace will naturally dictate in the long run, but you can expect to see people take things way beyond our little experiment.

      And for those who are wondering… yes, it was very effective
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  • Profile picture of the author warner444
    To me, Twitter, like any social marketing medium, is about building relationships.

    If you keep that in mind, remembering "interruption marketing" is completely different, in it's goals and outcome, than "permission marketing", you will succeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author 4freedom
    Recently signed up for a monthly program that was being heavy promoted. In a nutshell, the entire idea is to automatically create a number of twitter accounts - start following people in the hopes they will eventually follow you back - and post 2-6 tweets a day with commercial links in them. This is all handled automatically. The big PROMISE was this would help you build a "list" pretty quickly.

    Long story short - getting followers was not a quick as indicated and, frankly, I seem this being a very short term approach to marketing and, in time, will eventually get the accounts banned. Can't see it lasting too long as more and more marketers start mass tweeting commercial posts.
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  • Profile picture of the author kevinw1
    The interesting thing is, the people who will lose followers over this are the people sending out the tweet *for Joel*, not Joel himself. No risk to him, only benefits.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
      Originally Posted by kevinw1 View Post

      The interesting thing is, the people who will lose followers over this after the people sending out the tweet *for Joel*, not Joel himself. No risk to him, only benefits.
      Yeah, I noticed that.
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  • Profile picture of the author najmiyusoff
    I'm new to twitter, reading this thread has given me a new insight I wouldn't have known otherwise. Now I know what to expect. Thanks Dana.
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  • Profile picture of the author AskJesusLeon
    It is only matter of time before twitter starts tighten it's belt and canceling accounts, it was bound to happen sooner or later.
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  • Profile picture of the author thatgirlJ
    hmmm, I actually tweeted about this the other day. Why? Because I had just gotten Joel's Adsense book (my first exposure to Joel) and I thought it was phenomenal. I learned so much in a short time and I got excited and signed up as an affiliate.

    My message was something to the effect of "Just got Joel's book about Adsense free (link) (I labeled it as an aff. link)"

    then another tweet right after that said "I've been debating with myself with whether I need to focus my niche sites on adsense or affiliate marketing, decisions, decisions!"

    I don't see anything wrong with that. It's not spam in my opinion. It's what I was doing, and a product I believed in. Why not share it with people and possibly make a bit of money at the same time?

    To be honest with you, I'm getting tired of keeping up with what some people impose Twitter to be and not to be...

    I totally get cultivating relationships, but if I have something to share of value whether it's my own product, an affiliate product, or a friend's product I'm going to share it.

    Just checked...my followers list actually grew Not as a result I'm sure, but it didn't seem to harm anything.

    I get what you're saying Dana, just my take and experience with this exact aff. product.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
      I don't think there's anything wrong with reading someone else's product and saying you loved it and would recommend it. I don't see that as being the same as dozens of people coming on to Twitter, tweeting the exact same affiliate promotion link.

      Originally Posted by Jenn Dize View Post

      hmmm, I actually tweeted about this the other day. Why? Because I had just gotten Joel's Adsense book (my first exposure to Joel) and I thought it was phenomenal. I learned so much in a short time and I got excited and signed up as an affiliate.

      My message was something to the effect of "Just got Joel's book about Adsense free (link) (I labeled it as an aff. link)"

      then another tweet right after that said "I've been debating with myself with whether I need to focus my niche sites on adsense or affiliate marketing, decisions, decisions!"

      I don't see anything wrong with that. It's not spam in my opinion. It's what I was doing, and a product I believed in. Why not share it with people and possibly make a bit of money at the same time?

      To be honest with you, I'm getting tired of keeping up with what some people impose Twitter to be and not to be...

      I totally get cultivating relationships, but if I have something to share of value whether it's my own product, an affiliate product, or a friend's product I'm going to share it.

      Just checked...my followers list actually grew Not as a result I'm sure, but it didn't seem to harm anything.

      I get what you're saying Dana, just my take and experience with this exact aff. product.
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  • Profile picture of the author thatgirlJ
    Yeah, definitely. Perhaps people should think more of the give and take with it.

    I wish Twitter would become stricter to be honest with you. That way we would all know where we stood

    I joined Facebook when you had to have a valid .edu account to join (back in college) I still don't get how you market with it! I guess these social sites are so new it's hard to know where to step with them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
      I think twitter in no time will have the same issues every other type of social medium has ever had, which is issues with commercial exploitation.

      Because of that I'm sure twitter will have to either be proactive or reactive and figure out ways to curtail it the best way that they can which obviously will be in their best interest.

      Frank Bruno
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    • Profile picture of the author mylesagnew
      Hi Warriors,

      I use twitter alot for giving out free information and links to my blog post etc, so when Joel Offered the Adsense 4.0 for FREE I reworded the Tweet and called him a ******* for doing so.

      Anyway I use twitter across my blog, facebook and a couple other social sites that allow it to show followers/readers what I'm up to and what info I've gathered up.

      Dana_W Orignally Posted.

      Hey, I will say this much for Joel - he's following me on Twitter. I truly hate it when I see a major marketer on there with 5000 people following them and they follow like 12 people. I think it's incredibly egotistic and arrogant.
      I don't see your point?

      Why would Joel spend all his time added people to follow?

      I'm in the same boat (Except I don't claim to be a guru) I more people following me than I follow them.

      Infact if I'm following you and you don't tweet for a month like Steve Jobs hasn't for a long time then I stop following you on twitter, same goes if you post too much crap which Joel is now border lining 6+ tweets a day and it's geting a little tired.

      I can't see how it's egotistic or arrogant
      Would you psyhically follow some who standing still doing nothing?
      Would you follow someone who posting stuff that doesn't interest you?

      How do expect people with large amount of followers to follow all of their followers? (wow say that out loud three times!)

      Kevin Rose is another fine example he has 60k+ followers and he only follows approx 100 people.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
        The idea of a site like Twitter is that you're going on there interacting with people. When someone has a lot of followers but hardly follows anyone back, it's the equivalent of saying "You need to listen to me, but you guys aren't interesting enough that I want to hear what you're saying." I mean, 5000 or so followers and only following 12 people??? That's ridiculous. And my point is - Joel Comm IS following me and follows a lot of people.
        I may not like his latest affiliate promotion method, but I like the fact that he interacts with people.


        Originally Posted by mylesagnew View Post

        Hi Warriors,

        I use twitter alot for giving out free information and links to my blog post etc, so when Joel Offered the Adsense 4.0 for FREE I reworded the Tweet and called him a ******* for doing so.

        Anyway I use twitter across my blog, facebook and a couple other social sites that allow it to show followers/readers what I'm up to and what info I've gathered up.



        I don't see your point?

        Why would Joel spend all his time added people to follow?

        I'm in the same boat (Except I don't claim to be a guru) I more people following me than I follow them.

        Infact if I'm following you and you don't tweet for a month like Steve Jobs hasn't for a long time then I stop following you on twitter, same goes if you post too much crap which Joel is now border lining 6+ tweets a day and it's geting a little tired.

        I can't see how it's egotistic or arrogant
        Would you psyhically follow some who standing still doing nothing?
        Would you follow someone who posting stuff that doesn't interest you?

        How do expect people with large amount of followers to follow all of their followers? (wow say that out loud three times!)

        Kevin Rose is another fine example he has 60k+ followers and he only follows approx 100 people.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
          Originally Posted by drmani View Post

          I'll give credit where it's due.... My fun 'Twitter Quiz' was a DIRECT
          consequence of this thread

          Twitter Profit - Twitter Quiz

          Take it - and see if YOU are a 'Twitter KID'!

          All success
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            Dana, I know you and a lot of people will agree with me when I say this,
            I'm tired of seeing so many people sending tweets after tweets and links
            after links, I don't mind you post a URL or TWO but if every tweet
            have a URL about the latest greatest widget, I'll kick you to the curb...LOL

            So far I've been kicking some people already and it feels good...

            --David
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            • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
              Originally Posted by David_Thompson View Post

              Dana, I know you and a lot of people will agree with me when I say this,
              I'm tired of seeing so many people sending tweets after tweets and links
              after links, I don't mind you post a URL or TWO but if every tweet
              have a URL about the latest greatest widget, I'll kick you to the curb...LOL

              So far I've been kicking some people already and it feels good...

              --David
              I don't mind as much if they are linking to their own blog post - and the blog post is actually good - or a genuinely cool video or resource. I do mind if they promise great things and then I follow the link and find out it's either an affiliate link for a product or just a link to a really stupid beginner blog post.
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  • Profile picture of the author trafficwave
    I've recently "unfollowed" a few folks for stuff like this. One individual with a prominent reputation just went nutty and posted link after link after link after link after link....

    click .... gone ... peace and order restored in my twitter world.
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  • Profile picture of the author peteinoz
    Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

    Affiliate Marketing on Twitter - Does it Belong?

    Interesting post on affiliate spamming on Twitter. Joel Comm is apparently asking his affiliates to post a Tweet which says "Get Adsense Secrets For Free!" with a link to his adsense book. And about 30 of them are doing this.

    I think this is a TERRIBLE idea. I know I sound like a broken record saying this, but joining Twitter is like joining a local business person's networking group. Imagine you're a car salesman walking into a meeting of people you barely know and aggressively shoving a contract in front of people and asking them to sign it. They're going to flee in horror.

    Now imagine letting them get to know what a great, honest, guy you are, and that way - when they're ready to buy a car, they'll want to buy from you.

    twitter is just such a great tool, I hate to see people mis-use it.

    One month ago..

    I'd be thinking or saying..

    she's complain , complaining ..

    but, since I now understand the power of twitter.

    In main part due to Dana's great report that has now got me over 600 followers.. i previously had around 120

    I totally agree with you Dana

    Twitter is a great leverager already and is very powerful..

    So now that Im converted, I agree with you whole heartedly!!

    Cheers

    pete
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