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Thinking Big with Wordpress... the little CMS that makes Millions

by LMC
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Hello Warriors,

We all know that wordpress is an extremely powerful little CMS, that was intentionally developed for blog use. However, we have seen many programmers and designers turn hat blog use into an easy to use CMS system.

Since the release of wordpress, 1,000's of plugins have been developed.
1,000's of themes, plugins that turn your site into an ecommerce site, plugins that turn it into a membership.

Now, there are ways to make Wordpress into a social networking platform.

Almost 90% of my web projects/ invested projects all start from the basic functioning of wordpress, due to it's easy database driven code.

I want you to know that, that DREAM SITE, you have.

You know, the Web 2.0, make millions, sell it off to a huge corporation DREAM SITE you have.

It really can be done, most likely by putting together the right group of plugins and some slight customizations.

That web project that would cost you $XX,XXX in reality really only cost $XXX to a good programmer for the slight customizations.

I guess the main focus of this post is to value your resources and milk them for what they are, in this case, my favorite million dollar maker.

Amen. Wordpress.
#big #cms #makes #millions #thinking #wordpress
  • Profile picture of the author tbunch
    Yes, I would have to agree that WP is all that and sooo much more! Just think of how many people are able to get into internet marketing solely because of the easy nature of that platform.
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  • Profile picture of the author InternetSuccess001
    Hi LMC,

    How would you create a social networking platform out of wordpress? (What plugins are you referring to, you mean something along the lines of facebook or myspace?)

    Also, I noticed in your tagline about going from $350-$350k from forex. The website seems a bit incomplete, so assuming that is something you are currently developing. Did you personally go from $350 to $350K? And if so, how long did it take you/what tools did you use (did you have a bunch of bots trading for you?) Also, is it reasonable based on that, that you could now go from $350k to $35 million this year?
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    InternetSuccess,

    I'm going to keep this post on track, so I'll PM you the second paragraph responses.

    As for the social networking side of things, customizations using Wordpress MU is what makes networking possible using Wordpress.

    MU is rather easy to install and setup.

    I'll PM you.
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  • Profile picture of the author InternetSuccess001
    Thanks for your PM. Seems I can't send PM's at the moment (will need to have 50 posts, etc), so I will send you a response then.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Dunder
    I agree with you. Wordpress is a great platform. You can do almost anything you like starting off with a basic Wordpress installtion and then doing some customization.
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    Wordpress is decent. I'm just not a big fan of the PHP/MySQL arena. It's good, but not great. Interpreted script has a lot of security and resource hog issues in contrast to an actual binary application and/or an application server model (Java/Apache/Tomcat). I am much more aligned with an architected, 3-tier application development model that allows you to abstract your data layer and run it inside of the database engine as a stored procedure (which is compiled in advance and not interpreted on the fly). Faster, more secure, far more scalable, etc...
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    • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
      Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

      Wordpress is decent. I'm just not a big fan of the PHP/MySQL arena. It's good, but not great. Interpreted script has a lot of security and resource hog issues in contrast to an actual binary application and/or an application server model (Java/Apache/Tomcat). I am much more aligned with an architected, 3-tier application development model that allows you to abstract your data layer and run it inside of the database engine as a stored procedure (which is compiled in advance and not interpreted on the fly). Faster, more secure, far more scalable, etc...
      You make very good points, Michael. But for the non-techie, non-enterprise server crowd (which is probably most of the WF's membership), wouldn't you agree that rolling out WP mini-sites is just about the fastest, easiest, most flexible solution available?

      And, oh yeah, it's free.

      I mean, if you're a newbie thinking about affiliate marketing with either WP, or some cookie-cutter Frontpage crap, it's really no contest, right?
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      • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
        Originally Posted by FrankBowman View Post

        Michael, do you design for other people and if not could you recommed a decent non WP designer. I'd like to measure out the differences.

        thanks,

        Frank
        Originally Posted by Hasan Barbary View Post

        You make very good points, Michael. But for the non-techie, non-enterprise server crowd (which is probably most of the WF's membership), wouldn't you agree that rolling out WP mini-sites is just about the fastest, easiest, most flexible solution available?

        And, oh yeah, it's free.

        I mean, if you're a newbie thinking about affiliate marketing with either WP, or some cookie-cutter Frontpage crap, it's really no contest, right?

        The answer to both these posts is... DotNetNuke - The Leading Open Source Web Content Management Framework for ASP.NET

        The community edition is open source and it blows the doors off WP and Joomla.

        But as CMS's go... everyone's got their favorites for their reasons... WP isn't bad by any stretch. It certainly has put a lot of people into business, which is a good thing!
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        • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
          Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

          Ermm, oooo... you had me at "open source", but then you lost me at ASP.NET

          Like you said, to each their own, but there's no way in HELL I would build a serious money site for myself or anyone else in a Microsoft homogeneous environment. Windows and e-commerce? REALLY?? :confused:

          If you're a CIO dealing with legacy systems, that's one thing. But if I'm starting from scratch, uh-uh. Ain't gonna happen. No, sir.
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          • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
            Originally Posted by Hasan Barbary View Post

            Ermm, oooo... you had me at "open source", but then you lost me at ASP.NET

            Like you said, to each their own, but there's no way in HELL I would build a serious money site for myself or anyone else in a Microsoft homogeneous environment. Windows and e-commerce? REALLY?? :confused:

            If you're a CIO dealing with legacy systems, that's one thing. But if I'm starting from scratch, uh-uh. Ain't gonna happen. No, sir.

            Bingo! If you already OWN an decent sized enterprise class MS infrastructure, you're not going to dump it just for the hell of it.

            .NET is quite sufficient for a lot of very large ecommerce enterprises.

            I think the real issue is the cost barrier for people. Nobody here would WANT to pay for Oracle licenses either. Nobody here wants to actually PAY for much of ANYTHING.

            The trade off on the infrastructure side is someone is ultimately responsible for making their crap work. It's an insurance policy. You get into the age old discussion of TCO of enterprise vs. open source as it relates to RISK --- which is a bigger factor for people who have millions of dollars on the line providing services to OTHER PEOPLE.

            Originally Posted by LMC View Post

            Michael,

            I'm gonna disagree. DotNetNuke has it's plus's, but for the main market on Internet Marketers the learning curve of using a Windows server and .net is going to be a much bigger curve.

            Also DNN has problems ins firefox and safari.
            Actually, I think most of the browser issues have been fairly resolved since v 5. The only thing that I still see popping up from time to time is certain legacy WSYIWYG text controls in Chrome. But everything is JQuery now.

            As for learning curve, there are DNN specific host providers that use Plesk now, so if you're comfortable with Plesk Cpanel, you're right at home. Browser-based admin of the entire kit and kaboodle. Like anything else, DNN has its own learning curve though.

            For membership sites, DNN completely rocks. A lot of technical issues and feature integration that I see pop up here on a regular basis are non-existent.
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            • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
              Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

              Nobody here wants to actually PAY for much of ANYTHING.
              touché.

              LMC can correct me if I'm mistaken, but I inferred that the intended audience of the OP was the bootstrapping sole proprietor, or small biz group.

              In that case, generally the steep learning curve IS the most expensive cost, because as you pointed out, huge multi-node license fees are out of the question.

              WP may not be as robust, but it certainly affords a much faster rapid development and ROI than either Joomla, or ASP.NET.

              Plus, I've already paid my dues as a Dilbert-esque cubicle geek. I'm DONE being a backroom IT wage-slave, thank you very much. The SysAdmin career path is just not for me. When I worked for SONY, they had Oracle on the manufacturing shop floor, Linux on the fresh install servers, and Windows at headquarters ~ what an unholy mess! They also had some awesome toys, but they weren't my toys.

              My workspace these days is much more modest... but it's mine.
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  • Profile picture of the author FrankBowman
    I haven't built a non WP site in over two years................thank god for WP cuz my HTML really sucks.

    Also , the OP is correct, WP MU opens many new angles, if you think imaginatively.
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  • Profile picture of the author FrankBowman
    Michael, do you design for other people and if not could you recommed a decent non WP designer. I'd like to measure out the differences.

    thanks,

    Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
    Originally Posted by LMC View Post


    I guess the main focus of this post is to value your resources and milk them for what they are, in this case, my favorite million dollar maker.

    Amen. Wordpress.
    COSIGN! When I started digging seriously into WP, I thought it was cool but that it wouldn't scale well. (php/MySQL is inherently slow & resource-intensive compared to plain vanilla html).

    But as LMC mentioned, the open source developer community has really taken this app to the next level... If you guys don't know about it already, I highly recommend this plugin:

    WP Super Cache

    The config is a little bit technical; but if you're planning on sending massive traffic to a WP property, it's really essential.

    I noticed better than 200% faster server/page render times on some of my URLs.

    Anyways, check it out ~ it's another piece in the "DREAM SITE" jigsaw puzzle...
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    Michael,

    I'm gonna disagree. DotNetNuke has it's plus's, but for the main market on Internet Marketers the learning curve of using a Windows server and .net is going to be a much bigger curve.

    Also DNN has problems ins firefox and safari.
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    WordPress MU and Buddypress are good for networking.

    And the interesting news: the coming WP v3. will merge WP and WP MU

    Their Dev Blog always has interesting news: WordPress › Blog
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    Hey, like I said, it's good stuff. There's nothing wrong with WP at all!! It's a great app and it's about what you DO with the tools, not the tools!!

    LMC has some cool membership stuff happening I hear as well... if I only had time to play with more toys!!

    I've already spent more time at WF today than I should have... lol...
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