My Internet Marketing experience 3 years Later

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Warriors!

It has been close to 3 years now and I have a ton to look at in retrospect when it comes to internet marketing. Over the years, I have bought a ton of courses online. I wanted to learn as much as I can about Internet Marketing. I mean EVERYTHING.

This is what I have learned over these years.
  • Email Marketing (List Building and Autoresponders)
  • SEM,PPC,PPV (Pay Per Click) (Pay Per view)
  • Blogging (Wordpress)
  • Social Media (Facebook,Twitter,Myspace)
  • CPA Cost Per Action/Acquisition)
  • Dropshipping/Ebay Selling Products
  • Article Marketing (Bum Marketing)
  • Video Marketing
  • SEO/Traffic Building (Search Engine Optimization)
  • Copywriting and Basic & Advance concepts.
I wanted to be well rounded in about everything. Over the last couple of years and many test domains/campaigns later. I decided to start opting out of all most of my lists and staying with only a few who provide the best marketing advice ever.

I have made several thousands of dollars just by listening and reading some of the auto responders. I think everyone should set up a opt in email account somewhere and opt in to some of your favorite marketers or people you like the most and compare all the different styles of writing.

Anyway, this is not about the who's who in internet marketing in my honest opinion. This is about where I really made the most money online.

I took the approach with the idea of using the least amount of money possible. (Except for Paid traffic.)

Luckily, I work as a Network Engineer for a big Telecommunications company monitoring the voice and data network for stability and vulnerabilities. This is where I funded my internet marketing courses to learn.

I wanted to experience every aspect for making money online.I did it from the aspect if I had no money no income just a laptop and a internet connection.

Some areas I did suck at and didn't make money in that area. Due to the fact of not having the time nor desire to keep with the certain money making tactic.

Article Marketing

Article writing is a awesome way to build money online and at first I was making quite a bit of money just through articles. But my will to keep it up started to fade fast. I made several hundred dollars off of my articles.

Article Marketing Tip*
One cool thing I started to do that I noticed a ton of article marketers don't do is on the articles that are paying out on a certain "keyword" build back links to them! It keeps the article ranked in the search engines. If you notice your articles fading in SERP (Search Engine Results Page) build back links. It does'nt even need to be a lot.

PPC,PPV

I have yet tackled the beast to be totally profitable. But I truly think that the use of paid traffic can bring money to you in ways you will never know. I messed up and want to save you from my mistakes.

(As I finish typing this I am working to start a new venture in PPC. I lost over 1000 in a couple of days for not knowing what the hell I was doing. A landing page with great quality score is the way to go.)

Some tips I suggest learn how to apply demographics to your campaigns. A 40 year old lady may not be your target market for "Lil Wayne" Ring tones offers.

If using Google learn to use the Adwords Editor and learn about how to use Excel and CSV sheets. CSV (Comma Separated Value)

Learn about cognitive keyword searching. Know what people type when they are just investigating or price matching compared to pulling their wallets out and buying. If you can master that you can make massive money with PPC and any other internet marketing endeavors.

Use tracking software (Prosper 202) and how to loop all your keywords back to the software to track what is profitable and what is costing you money. Don't be gun shy to lose money sometimes in this area.

Blogging

My favorite area,I love blogs especially Wordpress! Wordpress can be used to dominate the search engines. They can be used as Squeeze page, Landing pages, Membership sites and much more.

The power of a blog I can't express in this post.

It can be configured to dominate any keyword competitor out there and get you massive exposure online. Some of the biggest companies like Best Buy use Wordpress for their Site.

When targeting your blog posts get a list of keywords you want to target and place ads or links to affiliates that relate to the post category you are writing about.

The use a keyword sheet separated by commas and lost several of them in the tag section of Wordpress.

Always configure your Wordpress blog with permalinks custom structure
/%postname%/ Each post is a money maker. Remember this!!

Email Marketing

Build your landing pages like was selling a product. This should be your most important copywriting skills ever.

You want to build a list and treat them with care.

I see a ton of marketers using the same old boring templates 3 affiliate links and template all the time. Each email they are selling you.

This may work great for some people and niches. But I think for the internet marketing niche you need a loyal cult following.

A marketer whom I respect and learn from every day is Jason Moffatt this dude has a small list but converts mad sales due to his honestly and loyalty to his subscribers.

He is just himself and sends out emails with cool videos and tips that can make money.

He really wants to see people on his list succeed.

He recommended a product that made him money one time and I took his advice and made a couple of thousand dollars immediately.

Note: If you make me money I will buy from you if it means clearing out my cookies to do it. But Jason's products for Video sales now The Truth Serum are second to none but his video marketing skills and Social media skill are crazy.

Even Jmo's people on his list are awesome I have made a ton of contacts from his list.

One guy The people's Marketer Kevin Madison whom I met from JMo I am working on a 5k in 2 days deal which will be awesome and probably a WSO in the works.

I don't want to keep going but some other great marketers who have awesome lists. Kim Roach, PotPieGirl,Travis Sago,Andy Jenkins and Howie Schwartz. I opted out of everyone else.

So where to make money. I made most of my money via blog posts and video marketing. But the quickest and largest amount of money I made was from local businesses and helping them get an online presence.

CopyWriting
Simple Study below

A.I.D.A and Boron Letters then John Carlton. That is the best as it can get!



After 3 years, to make the money it boils down to this.
Find a hungry niche that needs something bad to solve a problem or target buy words like product model numbers or product names that people would search if they had a credit card in hand.

If you ever had a unsolicited chance to watch a sale being made in person online it is awesome and you see someone what they typed and what made them pull out the credit card. It will bring so much light to you and you will understand a ton.

But it is simple. Learn to get tons of targeted traffic and drive it to a awesome landing page or a proven affiliate.

Better yet when buying products for your business. Spend it on research products and outsource as much as you can.

My biggest problem has been trying to do it all myself. It is easy to jump around from project to project and get nothing done. It is like herding cats.

Also, if you are not making money look for reason why. Start with yourself. Sometimes you maybe surprised you are the reason.

These are just a few thoughts I hope it helps people. You truly can make money online! Traffic+Desire = Money

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Warroom here Join it!

Hope this encourages people who are struggling and remember Rome wasn't built over night!
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric Louviere
    I was going to respond saying what a great post this is... and I was going to say a bunch of nice things... but then I changed my mind because you're not on my list.

    Eric
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  • Profile picture of the author Candace07
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    Article submission can be really helpful in getting backlinks for your site
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    • Profile picture of the author Shane Hale
      Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post

      I was going to respond saying what a great post this is... and I was going to say a bunch of nice things... but then I changed my mind because you're not on my list.

      Eric
      Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post

      just kidding dude,

      cool post!

      Eric
      haha no problem man! I Just found that opting out of email lists helped me stay focused more. Also, I stayed with the ones who wasn't always pushing product down your throat.

      Originally Posted by Candace07 View Post

      Article submission can be really helpful in getting backlinks for your site
      Article submissions are awesome for traffic still today!
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      • Profile picture of the author Hobo82
        Hey Shane,

        Very nice post, its great to see someone taking the time explaining in detail what he or she has done helping others along the way. I myself am new have been lurking around on here for a couple of months. I haven't been able to get going for one reason or another, but I have picked up things that will be helpful for me. Once again thanks.

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  • Profile picture of the author contentcreation
    I would like to say thanks for sharing such a important info with all of us at here. I have bookmarked this thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Stigson
    It's funny. As soon as I STOPPED taking in new advice and just DID what I knew I started making tons of dough =)
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    • Profile picture of the author Gary King
      Originally Posted by Chris Stigson View Post

      It's funny. As soon as I STOPPED taking in new advice and just DID what I knew I started making tons of dough =)
      Yep... that's where most fail... bees have a place in this world, they flutter around from flower to flower and make delicious honey as well as help the flowers themselves grow.

      Bouncing from the latest hot thing to the next without ever implementing everything = fail.

      Congrats Shane on your success and your willingness to share.
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  • Profile picture of the author BenBrandes
    Hey Shane, cool post.

    I'm curious what have you found by using social media? (myspace, facebook, twitter etc.)

    From my experience with it and from talking to a alot of friends using it...

    In my opinion it seems social media is overhyped and doesn't really make much money if you're starting from scratch. (Yes I know people will disagree and it's slightly controversial).

    From testing and results I've seen, social media isn't very effective when starting out.

    The people who seem to do well with social media are already famous in some way. ie. a popular site, been on tv, author etc.

    Social media is great for people who already have a following because it allows them to get even more followers.

    If you're starting from scratch win my opinion it's not a very effective strategy.

    People using it to make money realize it's not a sustainable model and is very inconsistent.

    From what I've seen the people who make money from social media are the ones selling information on how to make money from social media.

    Anyway that's my conclusion from speaking to insider social media guys and my own testing...

    What are your thoughts?
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    You can learn a lot of new things when you opt-into someone elses list and see what kind of content they are using. You never know what kind of info you will get and what new things you can learn too.

    Tal

    P.S. In my view, PPC advertising is the best way to go for a lot of instant traffic
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    • Profile picture of the author anthonyk
      Great outline of your journey. I think this will help
      many people to get focused. Keep up the good work!
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    • Profile picture of the author Shane Hale
      Originally Posted by BenBrandes View Post

      Hey Shane, cool post.




      From my experience with it and from talking to a a lot of friends using it...

      In my opinion it seems social media is overhyped and doesn't really make much money if you're starting from scratch. (Yes I know people will disagree and it's slightly controversial).

      From testing and results I've seen, social media isn't very effective when starting out.

      The people who seem to do well with social media are already famous in some way. ie. a popular site, been on tv, author etc.

      Social media is great for people who already have a following because it allows them to get even more followers.

      If you're starting from scratch win my opinion it's not a very effective strategy.

      People using it to make money realize it's not a sustainable model and is very inconsistent.

      From what I've seen the people who make money from social media are the ones selling information on how to make money from social media.

      Anyway that's my conclusion from speaking to insider social media guys and my own testing...

      What are your thoughts?
      I'm curious what have you found by using social media? (myspace, facebook, twitter etc.)

      I have found the best way to use Social Media is building a list. I think if you are building a list Social media is where it is at.

      Explanation:
      Here is the best way I have found.

      Phase 1 Twitter
      Twitter: I like to get a following by using several target keywords.
      1. I would then set up a Google Alert and take the RSS feed and put it on Tweetfeed or some service that will Tweet feeds as they come in. i would set it to like maybe 2 Tweets a hour. (This initially helps you build a target following). People like to follow others by searching targeted Tweets of same interest.
      2. Or I would use leverage. Example: I want to target "weight loss". Then I would use leverage of someone like Richard Simmons or another weight loss guru and start followingtheir followers. Set up a auto follow reply that links back to your web site or landing page thanking them.
      3. I also like to use Wordpress plugins that Tweet your recent blog posts. (Once I get a decent following for my niche, I like to taper down the RSS alert feeds tweet to none. You don't want to "harden" your audience to information overload or ignore your tweets.
      Phase 2 Facebook
      Facebook is a personal thing and if someone becomes your friend you want to be able to not spam them with blog links or crap to sales pages.

      No one on Facebook likes to see tons of Status pitches. Trust me or Pm's asking if they got a sec for them to explain MLM or the next craze in Network Marketing.

      The key is to get people added as friends, write free reports and have your Facebook friend link in it. Once someone is your friend, you can have them become a fan of your personal page next once it is created. Now you can at this point have

      Twitter update your status on Facebook. (If you Tweet alot sometimes this can be annoying unless you are Tweet cool personal experiences or Pictures.

      I think some of the best Facebook pages are the ones who post a Youtube videos links to a song or some really funny video.

      (I know one of my friends he likes to use his Cell phone via Twitpic and take pictures of crazy and weird people he sees in Walmart or funny worded signs and posts them on Facebook with a funny comment.)

      This shows your personality and keeps people entertained wanting more of your statuses and more importantly YOU. (Wondering what funny stuff he will post next)! You would be surprised with how many people's day you perk up by posting something funny.

      You are making your way to them as a person not a sales pitch. (Which is why people like Jason Moffatt rock social media they are just themselves and people dig it). After while, you will see your friends tend to grow more and more.

      Then it is time for Phase 3 making a Fan Page or Facebook page. I tend to stay away from being a Fan of Shane Hale and lean more towards pages like Being a Fan of "Finding money in your pocket" or some type of niche related Fan site with a cause.

      Unless you are some Guru or celebrity and everyone knows you then nobody wants to become a Fan of you.

      It is a turn off basically "Who does this guy think he is".

      (I like Funny and creative pages that kind of go hand in hand with your niche).

      Then I like to use FBML (Facebook Markup Language) it is a application you can add to your sites to place code on Page. Easy to do just search for FBML application and add it to your page.

      Then you can enter Aweber Form code or autoresponder code in the box just like you would add a opt in to your Widget box on Wordpress. Or you can even Iframe a external page elsewhere.

      If it is a cool page with a catchy name related to your niche then you will be golden.

      You can then advertise via Facebook Pay per click for more fans or simply invite all your friends to become a member of your page that you created.

      Think about it... you have been entertaining them with cool posts and videos as well as witty and even helpful statuses. An invite from you to a page that you created or suggested most of the time will be accepted.

      Once they join, their friends will see the status and join especially if it is a catchy name or phrase.

      Then it will pretty much go viral at that point. Then just continue to post wall updates with useful and informative yet entertaining information.

      My experience it is a lot harder to sell on social media sites because it is someone's personal space.

      It is similar to inviting someone into their home. Once you let them in they try to sell you Amway or some Vaccum cleaner. (Which I did once the conversion really sucked) lol literally. It is a huge turn off and people are already on the defensive.

      Your social media TouchStone you are selling is your persona. And if you provide great content and awesome entertainment on the side you just sold yourself in a matter of seconds.

      People will buy from you easier if they like you. Hence the reason someone with a small list can get you huge conversions.

      My point is not to portray being a salesman, just be yourself. Talk to your list and treat them like friends. Tell jokes have fun if someone don't like you they can always leave. But the whole point is you are not being fake you are being as real as possible.

      So in summary, Social Media rocks when building a list. You just got to be yourself and have fun in order to get the most out of it.

      I see so many dry ass statuses of people trying to sell you crap or automated blog posts talking about a launch with their cloak link in it.

      Social Media is one of the most Powerful tools when marketing yourself. and most experts do it wrong and that is why they get so frustrated with it.

      Then there is sites like Linkedin which I LOVE!!

      (Trying not to over post here) Social Media is VERY POWERFUL!

      Originally Posted by Chris Stigson View Post

      It's funny. As soon as I STOPPED taking in new advice and just DID what I knew I started making tons of dough =)
      Man, this is soo true look at every marketing guru as a whole look at their sales system and how they sell you and even buy a product from them and look how it is made and look at them outside the box as a whole you will reveal the true system they are using not just what they are selling

      Originally Posted by Hobo82 View Post

      Hey Shane,

      Very nice post, its great to see someone taking the time explaining in detail what he or she has done helping others along the way. I myself am new have been lurking around on here for a couple of months. I haven't been able to get going for one reason or another, but I have picked up things that will be helpful for me. Once again thanks.

      Hobo82
      Hobo thanks man much appreciated!

      Originally Posted by prajwalnshinde View Post

      very nice post, your experience can be felt in this post
      Thanks =) There is no Easy button in Internet Marketing. I rather help others learn from my mistakes =)

      Originally Posted by contentcreation View Post

      I would like to say thanks for sharing such a important info with all of us at here. I have bookmarked this thread.
      Thanks =)

      Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

      You can learn a lot of new things when you opt-into someone elses list and see what kind of content they are using. You never know what kind of info you will get and what new things you can learn too.

      Tal

      P.S. In my view, PPC advertising is the best way to go for a lot of instant traffic
      PPC is my next mission to really conquer, It is like gambling sometimes you can make a killing if you can get the right landing page and the right offer or niche at the right time. Also, having the right tools to do it is also great. I like to look at competition and see what type of landing page they are using then watch a target set of keywords for about a month.

      The ones that stay are the ones making some money. I have been debating just going to Elance and outsource landing pages. I have to learn not to do everything myself.

      Keyword grouping is very important!! People make mistakes by rushing in to fast and they create crappy landing pages and use keywords that cost too much. This is where using your imagination comes in and cognitive keyword research comes in to play.
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      • Profile picture of the author ktlasm
        Shane,

        My friend, I truly appreciate the shout out in your awesome post man. It doesn't go unnoticed, and I'll help ya out in any way I can. Thanks my man!

        To all the folks who read from Shane, I've gotta tell you. This dude is a student to the "T" and is hungry like a lion. His knowledge and understanding go far beyond several of the guys I've had the pleasure of becoming friends with in our community who do millions. I have no doubt that Shane will become a force to be reckoned with. Keep rockin' dude.

        The Peoples Marketer,

        Kevin
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        • Profile picture of the author Shane Hale
          Originally Posted by ktlasm View Post

          Shane,

          My friend, I truly appreciate the shout out in your awesome post man. It doesn't go unnoticed, and I'll help ya out in any way I can. Thanks my man!

          To all the folks who read from Shane, I've gotta tell you. This dude is a student to the "T" and is hungry like a lion. His knowledge and understanding go far beyond several of the guys I've had the pleasure of becoming friends with in our community who do millions. I have no doubt that Shane will become a force to be reckoned with. Keep rockin' dude.

          The Peoples Marketer,

          Kevin
          Haha thanks Kevin! I didn't think you still perused the Warrior Forum much. You are a busy dude! Thanks man and all the knowledge you have shared! You are definitely part of the underground elite bro! Keep on keeping on brother!
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      • Profile picture of the author NancyHill
        Wow! You are a fountain of free information. Thanks for sharing your wisdom, and your journey. Very inspiring and very educational.
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        • Profile picture of the author Shane Hale
          Originally Posted by AFFILIATE ROB View Post

          Great post Shane. Learning a lot.
          Thanks Rob!
          Originally Posted by NancyHill View Post

          Wow! You are a fountain of free information. Thanks for sharing your wisdom, and your journey. Very inspiring and very educational.
          Nancy thank you! I really hope to provide a lot more soon. I know what it's like to struggle and it is not a fun thing. Having people avoid the pitfalls I made will hopefully save someone life's most precious commodity(Time).
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          • Profile picture of the author 2nd2none
            I too am like Hobo82 in that I have been lurking in the background just reading here for a week or so. Just getting my feet wet in this thing (internet marketing) you guys and gals have been doing now for sometime. I have made some posts in another forum but this is the first in Warrior.
            Wow what a content rich post. I can't find the right words to express how grateful I am that I read your post today. Truly you see the key to success is to help others achieve success. Not everyone would take the time out to lay out in such detail on the topics you have covered. I could continue to thank you over and over again but don't want to sound too ...

            Thanks again for the AMAZING content!
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  • Profile picture of the author brownotis
    You've answered a lot of questions for me. Thank you so much.
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  • Profile picture of the author AFFILIATE ROB
    Great post Shane. Learning a lot.
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  • Profile picture of the author krispy
    thanks for sharing your experience ! You give me some good ideas !
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  • Profile picture of the author Tajine
    Thanks Shane for taking the time to write such an excellent distillation of your journey on the IM pathway.

    Loved your reference to herding cats by the way!

    I have saved a copy & will re-read it a number of times.
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    • Profile picture of the author Shane Hale
      Originally Posted by Tajine View Post

      Thanks Shane for taking the time to write such an excellent distillation of your journey on the IM pathway.

      Loved your reference to herding cats by the way!

      I have saved a copy & will re-read it a number of times.
      haha, I borrowed that term somewhere and thought it was hilarious for ADD type people like myself. Now what was I saying again? Ahh thanks man !!
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  • Profile picture of the author tomsmith_mcm
    Shane,

    Awesome post! I have been in the internet marketing realm for a few years myself. I also have read everything I can get my hands on.

    It's inspiring to read your experience and feel we have been on a similar path.

    Keep up the good work.
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  • Profile picture of the author DamianLeon
    Thanks Shane, that was a good survey of options out there
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  • Profile picture of the author samuraiwriting
    I'm taking on copywriting now and appreciate the tips! I could have saved myself several hundred if I read your post 1 year ago! lol
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  • Profile picture of the author larryburr
    Thanks for the post. I have been around for over a year and I feel like I am still at the front end. I will bookmark this post and continue to refer back to it as I continue my IM journey.
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  • Profile picture of the author sdentrepreneur
    Well done Shane, I am 2 1/2 Years into Internet Marketing Full Time. Best decision I ever made after spending 18 years in the gas station/auto repair business here in San Diego.

    It takes time to make money online....I call it learn and earn...
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  • Profile picture of the author richporr
    Great post, Shane, with a lot of good information.

    However, what I think most impressed me was your example of setting a checkpoint and taking the time for review and introspection. I imagine all of us could benefit from choosing definite point in time--6 months, first year, second year, etc.--and reviewing what we've learned and where we want to go from there.

    I look forward to your next analysis down the road.

    Thanks.

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    Good to see your doing well Shane
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  • Profile picture of the author janfrangas
    I'm definitely going to check out your book, Shane. You're a real down to earth guy. I'll be following you.
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  • Profile picture of the author J.Newman
    Excellent post....this was valuable to me...I'm a newbie just getting started so I need all the tactics I can get. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author oggobis
    I've learned few invaluable lessons. I've learned some of it earlier, and you make it firmer. Backlinks building, profitable keyword research, REAL warriors (I recognized some of names you mentioned, opted in one of them - Kim Roach ), one simple techy tip, and ppc tracking.

    Just great! Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shane Hale
    Thanks guys for all the insight and wonderful comments.

    I thought I actually made some people mad about the opt-out thing.

    I had people actually leave my list because of it.

    To be honest, I even sent a email telling people to unsubscribe. One guy thanked me for telling him how. haha

    Here is the thing when it comes to email marketing. Find some people you can connect with. I mean people who relate to you. This is awesome because if any of you ever went through Frank Kern's Mass Control he talks a little about this.

    "Modeling" Find someone you like and model yourself around them. Don't get caught up into the hype of the latest and greatest launches.

    I do recommend buyer loyalty especially if they are providing good information to you.

    (It just helps the laws of karma and reciprocity).

    Plus, buying from someone you actually like and connect with helps you understand their sales process.

    (Guru Buster Tip)

    Look at the whole picture of what they are doing.

    Now ask yourself these questions.

    1. How did they capture your attention?
    2. What made you opt-in or click?
    3. How have they benefited you in the past?

    (This is the reason at first, I was opted into about every Guru email list out there for years).

    I would look at their emails by subject. Right when a big launch would come, you could see who was using a affiliate swipe file to the ones who actually put some thought and wrote their own email copy and provided bonuses.

    Then sit back and watch their emails and see who actually keeps you entertained in a "non-spammy" way versus the ones who are just sending you a template like this.

    [Example:ASswipe file **Warning don't use this as a swipe file due to it being not real and very pitifully done and written lol***]

    Subject: Eye catcher topic here Example: I made $9797.97 in 3 hours with this method

    Hey %Firstname_fix%

    I wanted to talk about the latest greatest thing Joe Blow put out it is dominating the (insert niche here) it will make you $9797.97 in 3 hours. He totally showed me this and I was blown away after I saw first hand the amount of money that was trickling in his bank.

    (affiliate link)

    Man this was awesome, I can't believe how this method blew up my Paypal account.

    (affiliate link)

    I was around the other day and couldn't believe my eyes, This guy Joe Blow actually hit the proverbial "fountain of wealth". I was completely amazed by his methods and tactics. COMPLETELY!!

    Well, I got to run to Vegas for this high dollar seminar to speak. If you missed out on last email the sits are now filled up. Sorry =(

    PS.

    Serious check this dude's method out

    (affiliate link)

    PSS.

    (Affiliate link)

    Mad Profits for You,
    Mr. Gary RooH

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    (Ok, maybe I went overboard).

    However, whenever you see these same email from 50+ so called Guru's it insults me lol.

    But, when someone takes the time to lay out why I should buy this product and includes crazy cool bonuses that will benefit me.

    Also, they have been sending me mad free tips in the past that actually made me some change.

    Hell, I will click their link. Anyway thanks for the comments very much appreciated.

    (Maybe I pissed some more people off).

    Sorry for my tangent,

    **Note** are heretical opinions of me myself and I.

    Maybe, I am a hardened grizzled marketer looking for diamonds in the rough.

    Who knows... I try to keep it real and maybe those templates show proven conversions in the past and is the reason you can send it to 16 million opt-ins on a list and get a buy or 20000.

    It is the law of numbers really.

    (Kind of like those people who help that King transfer the Nigerian lottery winnings over to the USA via their bank account).

    There is profitability in numbers!! The Money is definitely in the list!

    I just rather have a small list of loyal people who dig me and my information and know I won't send a bunch of crap to them everyday...

    Any which way I am humble to your thanks and positive comments!

    Thanks,
    Shane Hale
    (Trying to keep it real).
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    Thank you for sharing this important post. I will bookmark this thread.

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    Good post. The best thing I've learnt is to start off by building a product to sell or give away. It's helped me create a big platform of sites and backlinks that allow me to easily launch all kinds of other ventures.
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    Hi Shane
    Your post has been very informative. Sharing your experience will help us to use the various tools available more effectively.
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    Thanks. I have only one common link with your lis:Travis Sago. I'm about to add the Moffatt guy. He seems OK! Cheers
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    Article marketing brings in the traffic alright.
    Its just so annoying that most of your articles will be crap in terms of bringing in traffic.
    The 80/20 rules applies to article marketing as well I guess.
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  • Profile picture of the author C A Perez
    Shane,
    Thank you for your enlightening post. I've been at this for eight months and I am struggling with trying to get my arms around article marketing, trying to see the "big picture." Recently, I opted out of many lists and I have noticed that I have regained my focus. I have stayed on few, like you say, that give me good information. I will check out your book.
    Thanks again,
    Carlos
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    If you spend 2 hours per day learning a subject for 4 years, you will become the top 1% in knowledge in that niche/market/industry. That's what I have heard.

    It's amazing how much knowledge we gain in a few years time. I also have 3 years exp in IM.

    Sometimes when people ask how do you make money online... I tell them it is like asking "How to build a home?" to a Civil Engineer.
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    • Profile picture of the author dejoliet31
      Shane,

      Thanks for your recap of your ongoing journey to success in online marketing. It reminded me of my own learning process and how much there is still to learn. I, too, found myself subscribed to a plethora of lists and being overwhelmed by the number of emails I received daily. Fortunately, one of the threads here on the Warrior Forum contained some blunt advice: "Stop spending all your time on the Forum and get busy building your business."

      I made the classic mistake of thinking I had to 'master' everything before really getting started. In reality, making mistakes while building my business IS part of the learning process, plus I will never master everything. As soon as I accepted the fact that I would make mistakes while building my business and started taking action, I began to experience success, modest though it may have been.

      Your advice about finding a select group of mentors you connect with is very apropos. The next step is to quickly "do something with what you learn." Even if it doesn't work out perfectly, each action will move you forward toward your destination.

      Again, thanks for taking the time to share.
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  • Profile picture of the author zoobie
    good work shane what your facebook or social networks thing is truly inspire me
    Thanks for that.
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  • Profile picture of the author poker princess
    Wonderful post Shane... You are a good writer
    Here I would like to inform Ben, that if you have a proper mindset and a plan, its not difficult to earn money from Internet Marketing (irrespective of your niche)

    Shane, I agree and really enjoyed reading your Phase 2 and 3, particularly about the facebook. I too have a facebook group as well as a Fan page, as you will know that I have a different niche altogether. Even though to target the end users (and ofcourse making money), the stuff you have put up here, is perfect. Once again thanks for your posts
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    • Profile picture of the author Shane Hale
      Originally Posted by poker princess View Post

      Wonderful post Shane... You are a good writer
      Here I would like to inform Ben, that if you have a proper mindset and a plan, its not difficult to earn money from Internet Marketing (irrespective of your niche)

      Shane, I agree and really enjoyed reading your Phase 2 and 3, particularly about the facebook. I too have a facebook group as well as a Fan page, as you will know that I have a different niche altogether. Even though to target the end users (and ofcourse making money), the stuff you have put up here, is perfect. Once again thanks for your posts
      Thank you Poker! Facebook is one of the best places "IMHO" for viral marketing. The demographics insights they provide is completely awesome!

      Originally Posted by dejoliet31 View Post

      Shane,

      Thanks for your recap of your ongoing journey to success in online marketing. It reminded me of my own learning process and how much there is still to learn. I, too, found myself subscribed to a plethora of lists and being overwhelmed by the number of emails I received daily. Fortunately, one of the threads here on the Warrior Forum contained some blunt advice: "Stop spending all your time on the Forum and get busy building your business."

      I made the classic mistake of thinking I had to 'master' everything before really getting started. In reality, making mistakes while building my business IS part of the learning process, plus I will never master everything. As soon as I accepted the fact that I would make mistakes while building my business and started taking action, I began to experience success, modest though it may have been.

      Your advice about finding a select group of mentors you connect with is very apropos. The next step is to quickly "do something with what you learn." Even if it doesn't work out perfectly, each action will move you forward toward your destination.

      Again, thanks for taking the time to share.
      Thanks it is all about taking action. If not you are just treading water and eventually you will sink.

      Originally Posted by zoobie View Post

      good work shane what your facebook or social networks thing is truly inspire me
      Thanks for that.
      Thanks Zoobie!

      Originally Posted by Deepak Media View Post

      If you spend 2 hours per day learning a subject for 4 years, you will become the top 1% in knowledge in that niche/market/industry. That's what I have heard.

      It's amazing how much knowledge we gain in a few years time. I also have 3 years exp in IM.

      Sometimes when people ask how do you make money online... I tell them it is like asking "How to build a home?" to a Civil Engineer.
      Internet Marketing takes time to learn whether you are a techie learning the marketing part. (Like me). Or a Marketer learning some techie stuff. It takes time to master your craft! Thanks for the post!

      Originally Posted by C A Perez View Post

      Shane,
      Thank you for your enlightening post. I've been at this for eight months and I am struggling with trying to get my arms around article marketing, trying to see the "big picture." Recently, I opted out of many lists and I have noticed that I have regained my focus. I have stayed on few, like you say, that give me good information. I will check out your book.
      Thanks again,
      Carlos
      I sent you a Pm with the link. Just remember one thing about article marketing. You are leveraging their SEO authority. You have to find a not so competitive keyword that is related to your niche or product.

      Then, right the article with some awesome content riddled with about 3% keyword density but, leave it open ended with a link in your resource box so you grab their attention and make them wanting to read more.

      Thanks for buying the book it has some awesome stuff related to keyword research that I use.

      I am probably going to take that down and work on another report about blogging that I will WSO it for like 7 bucks. I want to make the report and add video content to it showing how to set up your blog and use the right keywords ect ect.
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