Do you submit articles with unrelated resource boxes?

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You know like submitting an article about Internet Marketing and having a resource box that says:

Click here for some killer tips on housebreaking your pet iguana

I know it won't be good for your click thrus, but for backlinks. I got a really hard niche to write for.
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  • Profile picture of the author yeekhui
    Originally Posted by alanfukuda View Post

    You know like submitting an article about Internet Marketing and having a resource box that says:

    Click here for some killer tips on housebreaking your pet iguana

    I know it won't be good for your click thrus, but for backlinks. I got a really hard niche to write for.

    Yes, sometime!
    The purpose of the resource box is not just to say that you wrote the article. People use article directories in order to promote their website or product. The idea of the resource box is to encourage people who have read your article to want to click on a link in your resource box to either learn more, get something related to the topic of the article for free, or find out more about this very interesting author!
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  • Profile picture of the author timelessreader
    One final tip that every internet marketer should know is that it is extremely important to housebreak your iguana. You'll never get any work done if you're cleaning up after it all the time. lol

    Seriously though, I rarely write on topic if it's a boring niche. If there's any remote way to tie it in, I'll try. But if you're writing for backlinks and not clickthroughs, I've found that writing on interesting or popular topics are more likely to be picked up and syndicated, getting you many more backlinks.

    But yeah my clickthroughs are like 3% for off-topic articles vs 30% for on-topic articles.
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    • Profile picture of the author ivana
      NO, and No, and NO... The purpose of an article is to drive targeted traffic. So why talk about weight loss in IM niche. Not to say, you would not have people interested in weight loss, it is just that majority of people are interested in IM niche and are looking for IM relevant stuff.
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      • Profile picture of the author timelessreader
        Originally Posted by ivana View Post

        NO, and No, and NO... The purpose of an article is to drive targeted traffic. So why talk about weight loss in IM niche. Not to say, you would not have people interested in weight loss, it is just that majority of people are interested in IM niche and are looking for IM relevant stuff.
        Is that the ONLY purpose? Yes IM and Weight Loss niche are easy to write a ton of articles about. But OP mentioned housebreaking your iguana, which is a very narrow niche. If he has an iguana website that he is trying to monetize with adsense, for example, which is better:

        1. An article about iguanas, which gets read by 50 people, doesn't get syndicated, and gets a 30% clickthrough rate (15 hits).

        2. An article about Why Paris Hilton thinks James Cameron got ripped off at the Oscars, which gets republished all over the internet, gaining dozens of backlinks, which helps his PR and google ranking.

        It all depends on what you are trying to accomplish.
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        • Profile picture of the author ivana
          I am sorry, but you think that if a person wrote IM article, it would be a good thing to put in killer tips on housebreaking your pet iguana? How many people actually have iguana pet?

          If the purpose is only to get a link back to the site, yeah, I can see it as a plus, BUT besides the housebreaking your iguana pet, I bet there are other things people have issues with. Such as Iguana Feeding, Iguana Diet, and so forth...Just based on the quick look up on keywords.
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          • Profile picture of the author Jonathan Beacher
            Originally Posted by ivana View Post

            I am sorry, but you think that if a person wrote IM article, it would be a good thing to put in killer tips on housebreaking your pet iguana? How many people actually have iguana pet?

            If the purpose is only to get a link back to the site, yeah, I can see it as a plus, BUT besides the housebreaking your iguana pet, I bet there are other things people have issues with. Such as Iguana Feeding, Iguana Diet, and so forth...Just based on the quick look up on keywords.
            The point is though that you're writing an article about a subject you find easiest (and quickest) to get words down on a computer screen. So whilst you need linkbacks to your Iguana site, writing about a niche that doesn't come easily can be a laborious process with really little additional reward (slightly more targeted links.. if they do happen to get republished from EZA?)
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            • Profile picture of the author thecableguy
              Thanks for the feedback guys. I see it quite often at ezinearticles and since I was having such a hard time finding content to write about in the niche I thought I'd ask.

              BTW I was kidding about the iguana site
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                • Profile picture of the author howinfo
                  We do get many many articles to our article directory with irrelevant resource box and often times the link in the resource box is not even relevant to the resource box either. If the article is relevant to our article directory and it is a good quality article then we still publish them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nicola Lane
    You might want to consider refining your research skills - Ezine Articles is considering rejecting articles that have a mis-matched resource box.

    At least that is the impression I get from a question Chris Knight asked on twitter recently.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    If you are just doing it for backlinks, then why not?

    Actually if you are just doing it for backlinks then I guess you needen't even worry about keywords or anything else, right? Just write an article about whatever you can write fastest about.

    The thing we often IM'ers forget is that not everyone is writing articles as an article marketing exercise. Some people just like to write articles. In fact, I've seen plenty on EZA where the person doesn't even have links in the resource box. They just wrote on a topic that interested them and published the article. So, I don't think it's too weird that you might write an article about internet marketing and then in your resource box talk about your pet iguanas.
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  • Profile picture of the author NoGuru
    I agree with others that there is no problem having links in the resource box that are not related to the subject matter of your article.
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  • Profile picture of the author paytonlowe
    I make sure all of my resource boxes are directly in line with my articles. Just in case a mod comes across my article.
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    • Profile picture of the author howinfo
      I can totally understand if your recourse boxes does not mach the article. Maybe you had some unused articles you wanted to use or you wanted to get your link to a niche article directory other than your niche. But if the link in the resource boxes is not relevant to the article or to the resource box then that does not make much sense to me. If your article is about gardening and your resource box is about dogs and the link takes you to the website that is about iguanas, that is all just too confusing then.

      Also I have noticed that when people submitting articles, they add keywords that are relevant to the resource box or to the link in the resource box but not to the article.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    Originally Posted by alanfukuda View Post

    You know like submitting an article about Internet Marketing and having a resource box that says:

    Click here for some killer tips on housebreaking your pet iguana

    I know it won't be good for your click thrus, but for backlinks. I got a really hard niche to write for.
    not really..i dont see the point to be honest. Then rater spend 15 mins and write a matching article and killer resource box.
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    • Profile picture of the author thecableguy
      Thanks for the tip about the article directories rejecting non-relevant resource boxes, but I don't have to worry about the article being accepted or the quality of the article. Or the traffic for that matter.

      BTW don't blame me if there's a spike in the iguana searches next month
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  • Profile picture of the author Sylviane
    When you have to write articles that don't even interest YOU, that might be hard to interest others. In such a case, if you can afford it, it would be better to get someone writing your articles for you. Or, finding a niche you would actually be interested in writing about.

    As for getting away with writing unrelated content, I've never heard of such thing in my 5 years of article marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author thecableguy
      Originally Posted by Sylviane View Post

      As for getting away with writing unrelated content, I've never heard of such thing in my 5 years of article marketing.[/FONT][/COLOR]
      Obviously. You'll find some twisted minds here
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  • Profile picture of the author mikefort
    Well, this is a hard one really....or is it? Hand up all those who have included the odd non topic related links in a resource box for link building purposes? Thought as much.
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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
    Linking to unrelated pages is pointless as far as I am concerned.

    You aren't going to get a single sale or list member, and links from non-related pages are getting less effective from what I can see.

    Not to mention that any article directory editor in their right mind would decline an article that didn't link to related content. (Notice I said, "in their right mind.") LOL

    I just think its a bad idea. Integrity, honesty and good ole' fashioned hard work is what it takes for me to make the grade. Tricking search engines is playing Russian Roulette as far as I'm concerned. I don't want to take that chance.

    JMO

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    • Profile picture of the author howinfo
      Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

      Linking to unrelated pages is pointless as far as I am concerned.


      Not to mention that any article directory editor in their right mind would decline an article that didn't link to related content. (Notice I said, "in their right mind.") LOL



      Cheers,
      Allen
      If the article is well written and is relevant to our article directory I will publish it anytime even if the link in the resource box is not relevant to the article. The person who submitted the article might not get that much benefit from unrelated link but that is their problem.

      I would not publish the article if the link is relevant to our article directory but the article itself is not.
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      • Profile picture of the author thecableguy
        I'm well aware that having an unrelated resource box will drop the conversion rate for the article to zero for the article itself. But like I was saying this is for backlinking purposes ONLY, I don't expect any traffic from them.


        You know thinking about it I guess with all the profile backlink packs going around that unrelated links does does work


        Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
        Originally Posted by howinfo View Post

        If the article is well written and is relevant to our article directory I will publish it anytime even if the link in the resource box is not relevant to the article. The person who submitted the article might not get that much benefit from unrelated link but that is their problem.

        I would not publish the article if the link is relevant to our article directory but the article itself is not.
        I hope you don't take the "right mind" personally. It wasn't a shot at you, I promise.

        But why would you want to send your visitors to an unrelated page and/or confuse them with conflicting links. They may think something was not right and wouldn't return to your directory...especially if the link was to a sales or squeeze page.

        Just a thought...

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        • Profile picture of the author howinfo
          Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

          I hope you don't take the "right mind" personally. It wasn't a shot at you, I promise.

          But why would you want to send your visitors to an unrelated page and/or confuse them with conflicting links. They may think something was not right and wouldn't return to your directory...especially if the link was to a sales or squeeze page.

          Just a thought...

          Allen
          My wife keeps making comments about my mind lately as well so you might be right after all.

          Yes I would prefer to have a good article with relevant link in resource box , that would be the best option.

          But if all of the resource box is irrelevant to the article then readers probably not even going to click to the link and then they are more likely to click on adsense.

          That is just my thinking.
          Well, you newer know why average internet surfer does what he does.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    I don't really think that an article with an unrelated link in the resource box necessarily indicates dishonesty, laziness or even tricking search engines (Ok, well maybe a little bit of tricking since you know you are writing it for backlinks).

    What if you were a home schooler who also raised hamsters and you wrote a really informative article about home schooling and then in your resource box put in a link to your hamster site?

    I'd rather see that than a crappy article stuffed full of useless fluff that links to a related site.
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    • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
      Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

      I don't really think that an article with an unrelated link in the resource box necessarily indicates dishonesty, laziness or even tricking search engines (Ok, well maybe a little bit of tricking since you know you are writing it for backlinks).

      What if you were a home schooler who also raised hamsters and you wrote a really informative article about home schooling and then in your resource box put in a link to your hamster site?

      I'd rather see that than a crappy article stuffed full of useless fluff that links to a related site.
      Hi Lee!!! Good to see ya.

      I am just thinking about the run-of-the-mill internet surfer. Most of them are already paranoid as all hell. LOL

      It just gives me a bad feeling. And who knows if in the near future it doesn't turn out to be a bad thing. I don't know what it is - but it just doesn't feel right.

      As usual, things - they are a changin', and this doesn't seem to fit into the current article marketing direction.

      Allen

      p.s. I have a new article directory coming out and I need a couple of authors to submit some articles for me. Do you have the time? PM me if so. (Goes for anyone else too)

      p.s.s. Of course, you'll have to link to relevent sites in your resource sections. LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkAse
    To each their own....for me clickthroughs are nice of course but hard to come by because many people are looking for wine related terms for research not to buy immediately.

    Yes, I throw up unrelated research boxes all the time
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    Hey Allen,

    I know where you are coming from and I agree that from an "article marketing" point of view having a resource box that points to an unrelated site is just stupid.

    I think of articles in different ways from most people though (as you know!).

    There's the ones where you "market" which you want to have your related links in the resource box.

    Then the ones for backlinks where related is probably a good idea but I guess not necessary.

    I'm not saying that it's good to put unrelated links in in a sneaky kind of way like to fool the visitor or anything. I don't think that's what the OP meant. I think they just meant to write an article about one topic and then put something else in your resource box.

    You know, like Joe Author writes about how the cold weather in Florida is going to affect the tomato crop this year and then in his resource box puts "Joe Author is an avid tomato lover and also feeds them to his iguanas" with the link to the iguanas keyword. I don't think that would offend the average surfer.

    But on the other hand, I can think of ways this sort of thing could be abused.

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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
    LOL - THere are those damn Iguanas again.

    Actually, around here it is the strawberry crops - do Iguanas like strawberries? I Googled it, but all I found was articles about cold weather in Florida.

    LOL, JK.

    Good points.

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    • Profile picture of the author rainyclayday
      The OP is just talking about getting backlinks to his site, not really anything to do with honesty or integrity IMO.

      For example let's say your niche is spark plugs for a car and you want to get a lot of backlinks to your site which is all about spark plugs. Remember that you are not concerned with the reader clicking on your resource box links, you just want to get a lot of backlinks out and about in the world.

      So you could write articles on a popular subject like weight loss or dating which has a good chance to get picked up and syndicated, and thereby getting your links out there. No, there will not be a good CTR, not at all, but in this case that is not the goal.

      That is what I think the OP is talking about. I've done it myself in the past and even though it's not really my cup of tea, it does work.
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      • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
        Originally Posted by rainyclayday View Post

        The OP is just talking about getting backlinks to his site, not really anything to do with honesty or integrity IMO.

        For example let's say your niche is spark plugs for a car and you want to get a lot of backlinks to your site which is all about spark plugs. Remember that you are not concerned with the reader clicking on your resource box links, you just want to get a lot of backlinks out and about in the world.

        So you could write articles on a popular subject like weight loss or dating which has a good chance to get picked up and syndicated, and thereby getting your links out there. No, there will not be a good CTR, not at all, but in this case that is not the goal.

        That is what I think the OP is talking about. I've done it myself in the past and even though it's not really my cup of tea, it does work.

        That is what I don't get - why would you not simply write articles about cars, electricity, combustion, NASCAR, NHRA, clean burning fuel, hybrids, motors, etc...? Wouldn't that make a ton more sense (and kill multiple birds with a single stone?)

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        • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
          Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

          That is what I don't get - why would you not simply write articles about cars, electricity, combustion, NASCAR, NHRA, clean burning fuel, hybrids, motors, etc...? Wouldn't that make a ton more sense (and kill multiple birds with a single stone?)

          Allen

          Allen ... you can beat this hoarse until you start smelling soured oats and the articles for back links only crowd will never admit you are right ... even though you are .
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    LOL! I don't know but I actually had a site on Iguanas a while back. Sold it on Flippa though. I think they only eat green stuff.

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  • Profile picture of the author FrankBowman
    OK, I think I'm either missing something here or I'm just a friggin idiot. (BTW, "Friggin Idiot" is leading in the polls right now, he will make a statement after the polls official close.)

    Whatever link I put in my resouces boxes, is hyperlinked to a relevant keyword for my site. If i'm using a redirect to an offer then I'm still hyperlinking and relvant keyword............ie...MaxbOunty's Free iPad offer..........I hyperlink the words........"get a free ipad" in my resource box.

    Now if you're writing for pure seo back linking purposes, you still need a relevant keyword, in my humble, somewhat uninformed, opinion.

    If you're just putting "visit this site, http:// yoursite. com" you're not getting a backlink thats worth much.

    So if you like writing about iguanas but your site is about loan modifications, what are you going to hyperlink in your box.................."loans for iguanas" ?

    I know some people just like to write about their "passions", but come on. If I wrote only about my "passions", I'd have a hard time getting the articles approved

    My point is, sometimes what you like to write about ain't gonna make you any money

    Like I said, maybe I'm missing something..........

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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    I got a really hard niche to write for.
    You know what that tells me? You either do not know enough about the niche, and need to start doing Google Alerts, more reading, and research, or...

    You need to step up one level from your niche, into the larger niche above it.

    Example: If your niche was "How to correct your golf slice" then step up to the larger niche of "golf swing".

    You could write many more articles on the larger niche, and every one of them might benefit from your "golf slice" link.

    Create quality in all of your methods, and you will multiply your efforts.
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  • Profile picture of the author techinik
    No I never do that article marketing is one of my way to get quality traffic. I mean how a person will feel if my article is about dating and in resource book I talk about best computer deal. The visitor gonna think I was drunk when I wrote that article.
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