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Heidi White

15 years ago

LOL - How did your images end up on Google images? Perhaps that's a free traffic strategy idea?

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askloz 15 years ago

simple, name the image a keyword you are after and give it an ALT text, this is added below the image as a description in google images.

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LOL - How did your images end up on Google images? Perhaps that's a free traffic strategy idea?
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Dennis Gaskill 15 years ago

Originally Posted by MostlyHarmless

LOL - How did your images end up on Google images? Perhaps that's a free traffic strategy idea?

You pretty much have to tell Google NOT to index your images or they'll be found and included sooner or later.
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Emmanuel Betinis

15 years ago

Funny...

I just added
Disallow: /images

to the robots.txt of all my
niche sites recently.

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Emmanuel Betinis

15 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

And I'm glad they did, since a huge amount of my traffic in top performing sites comes from Google images.

But how good is that traffic, really? Is it the kind of traffic that actually cares about what you have to offer on your site? Or is it the kind of traffic that just wants to rip your images because they're also internet marketers?

I discovered a lot of my traffic was coming from my images, so I disallowed the /images to be indexed to save on hosting bandwith under the assumption it's low-quality traffic anyway.

Thoughts?

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NikkiG

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Emmanuel Betinis

But how good is that traffic, really? Is it the kind of traffic that actually cares about what you have to offer on your site? Or is it the kind of traffic that just wants to rip your images because they're also internet marketers?

I discovered a lot of my traffic was coming from my images, so I disallowed the /images to be indexed to save on hosting bandwith under the assumption it's low-quality traffic anyway.

Thoughts?

That comes down to testing and looks like you'll find out.

I get sales from images traffic and more than enough for me to use it as a strategy..at least part time..considering it doesn't take much time I just make changes in my .htaccess files to make sure that if a user goes through Google images to view the full size image they end up at the page not at the image.

Did you really have enough image traffic that it was taking up too much bandwidth?

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Sparhawke

15 years ago

Originally Posted by NikkiG

That comes down to testing and looks like you'll find out.

I get sales from images traffic and more than enough for me to use it as a strategy..at least part time..considering it doesn't take much time I just make changes in my .htaccess files to make sure that if a user goes through Google images to view the full size image they end up at the page not at the image.

Did you really have enough image traffic that it was taking up too much bandwidth?

Does this really work and make a real difference to traffic?

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PaulaC

15 years ago

Originally Posted by NikkiG

I get sales from images traffic and more than enough for me to use it as a strategy..at least part time..considering it doesn't take much time I just make changes in my .htaccess files to make sure that if a user goes through Google images to view the full size image they end up at the page not at the image.

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sbucciarel

Banned 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Emmanuel Betinis

But how good is that traffic, really? Is it the kind of traffic that actually cares about what you have to offer on your site? Or is it the kind of traffic that just wants to rip your images because they're also internet marketers?

I discovered a lot of my traffic was coming from my images, so I disallowed the /images to be indexed to save on hosting bandwith under the assumption it's low-quality traffic anyway.

Thoughts?

I get a lot of traffic from my images and encourage it. I don't consider traffic to be a bad thing, whether they buy something or not. The more traffic the merrier ... bring it on, I say. I don't see any point in disallowing traffic simply because they want to see an image.

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Emmanuel Betinis

15 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

I get a lot of traffic from my images and encourage it. I don't consider traffic to be a bad thing, whether they buy something or not. The more traffic the merrier ... bring it on, I say. I don't see any point in disallowing traffic simply because they want to see an image.

I completely agree with you now that I know how to prevent
hotlinkers with that handy-dandy .htaccess code.

</image disallows removed from all sites>

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NikkiG

15 years ago

Forgot to mention that image results turn up in some cases even if someone is not specifically looking for images...just like videos etc...you can end up with a top 10 nested result in Google search.

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thetrafficaddict

15 years ago

You can get really targeted results with image ads. People searching them will also be typing it targeted keyword.

So they're part of your target market.

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Vijay M

15 years ago

A very potent strategy was shared by someone here.I forget the user.

He had a copy writing guru's pictures indexed and showing up on the front page, and when someone searched for this particular guru, the image showed up. He claimed to have pocketed a nice aff commission just by this tactic.

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Bruce Hearder

15 years ago

Here's another idea for you:

You could create a new image (that is basically an ad for your website), and call it STOLEN.GIF

Now whenever tries to hotlink an image from your site (no matter what its called), they get the STOLEN.GIF file displayed instead..

If you want to try this, the add this to your .htaccess file

Code:

Options All -Indexes
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://.*google.([^/]+)/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://.*google.([^/]+)$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(www\.)?mysite\.com [NC]
RewriteRule .*\.(swf|cur|ani|mid|mp3|mov|wma)$ - [F]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(www\.)?mysite\.com [NC]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/images/stolen.gif [NC]
RewriteRule .*\.(jpe?g|gif|bmp|png)$ /images/stolen.gif [R,L]

Obviously replace mysite\.com with your domain (making sure to put a \ symbol before every . in the domain name)

It will allow Google to still display images from your site in Google Images, but not from other peoples sites..

Anyway, see what you think

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Emmanuel Betinis 15 years ago

Bruce, now we're talking.

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HomeBizNizz

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Bruce Hearder

Here's another idea for you:

You could create a new image (that is basically an ad for your website),
and call it STOLEN.GIF

I did it once because some idiot hot linked a couple of mine images.
I emailed him first.
And he told me to "go to a warm place".

I replaced the pix with a pic of a naked hairy mans ass
with the text below "Kiss my big beautiful ass".
Nevertheless, the dude did removed the pix fast afterwards.

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garyv

15 years ago

Originally Posted by HomeBizNizz

I did it once because some idiot hot linked a couple of mine images.
I emailed him first.
And he told me to "go to a warm place".

I replaced the pix with a pic of a naked hairy mans ass
with the text below "Kiss my big beautiful ass".
Nevertheless, the dude did removed the pix fast afterwards.

I did this as well to someone using my hosted images on their ebay auction. I gave them plenty of warning. However ultimately ebay shut their auction down. I guess selling fat naked ladies is against their rules.

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windtalker

15 years ago

Originally Posted by HomeBizNizz

I did it once because some idiot hot linked a couple of mine images.
I emailed him first.
And he told me to "go to a warm place".

I replaced the pix with a pic of a naked hairy mans ass
with the text below "Kiss my big beautiful ass".
Nevertheless, the dude did removed the pix fast afterwards.

lol, pretty funny. I'm betting he is one of those guys who think they can get away with anything over the internet.

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DogScout

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Bruce Hearder

Here's another idea for you:

You could create a new image (that is basically an ad for your website), and call it STOLEN.GIF

Now whenever tries to hotlink an image from your site (no matter what its called), they get the STOLEN.GIF file displayed instead..

If you want to try this, the add this to your .htaccess file

Code:

Options All -Indexes
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://.*google.([^/]+)/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://.*google.([^/]+)$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(www.)?mysite.com [NC]
RewriteRule .*.(swf|cur|ani|mid|mp3|mov|wma)$ - [F]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(www.)?mysite.com [NC]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/images/stolen.gif [NC]
RewriteRule .*.(jpe?g|gif|bmp|png)$ /images/stolen.gif [R,L]

Obviously replace mysite.com with your domain (making sure to put a symbol before every . in the domain name)

It will allow Google to still display images from your site in Google Images, but not from other peoples sites..

Anyway, see what you think

Bruce

That only works if they hotlink to the image, but most know enough to download and re-upload, unless they are just idiots.

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Rus Sells 15 years ago

HAHA Good point. Most of my stolen images were hotlinked! Can't say my peers were too bright about that.

Originally Posted by DogScout

That only works if they hotlink to the image, but most know enough to download and re-upload, unless they are just idiots.
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Rus Sells

15 years ago

Bruce that is great! I've had so many of my Hail damage photos stolen back when I used to own an insurance restoration company! I have found my personally taken photos on many of my competitors sites!

I wish I would have know about this back in the day!

Originally Posted by Bruce Hearder

Here's another idea for you:

You could create a new image (that is basically an ad for your website), and call it STOLEN.GIF

Now whenever tries to hotlink an image from your site (no matter what its called), they get the STOLEN.GIF file displayed instead..

If you want to try this, the add this to your .htaccess file

Code:

Options All -Indexes
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://.*google.([^/]+)/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://.*google.([^/]+)$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(www.)?mysite.com [NC]
RewriteRule .*.(swf|cur|ani|mid|mp3|mov|wma)$ - [F]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(www.)?mysite.com [NC]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/images/stolen.gif [NC]
RewriteRule .*.(jpe?g|gif|bmp|png)$ /images/stolen.gif [R,L]

Obviously replace mysite.com with your domain (making sure to put a symbol before every . in the domain name)

It will allow Google to still display images from your site in Google Images, but not from other peoples sites..

Anyway, see what you think

Bruce

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PaulaC

15 years ago

This is great Bruce!! I have been looking for something like this for a while now. I will be spending the rest of the day adding this code to my blogs.

Originally Posted by Bruce Hearder

Here's another idea for you:

You could create a new image (that is basically an ad for your website), and call it STOLEN.GIF

Now whenever tries to hotlink an image from your site (no matter what its called), they get the STOLEN.GIF file displayed instead..

If you want to try this, the add this to your .htaccess file

Code:

Options All -Indexes
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://.*google.([^/]+)/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://.*google.([^/]+)$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(www.)?mysite.com [NC]
RewriteRule .*.(swf|cur|ani|mid|mp3|mov|wma)$ - [F]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(www.)?mysite.com [NC]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/images/stolen.gif [NC]
RewriteRule .*.(jpe?g|gif|bmp|png)$ /images/stolen.gif [R,L]

Obviously replace mysite.com with your domain (making sure to put a symbol before every . in the domain name)

It will allow Google to still display images from your site in Google Images, but not from other peoples sites..

Anyway, see what you think

Bruce

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poker princess

15 years ago

I think this doesn't help that much for gaining visitors or hits for your site. I have been using all new images in my blog articles and all of them do have alt tags too. But very few traffic shows up in my stats from google image search.
I do get 40% of traffic from google but not from the image search option.

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askloz

15 years ago

the last person who stole my images who was getting like 1000-1500 hits on it a day via ebay, I found a picture of a naked women,and named it the same file name as the image they took from me that was showing a ps3 console, and wrote some nasty words on the picture...

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poker princess

15 years ago

How about posting a water mark in the images, I do this mostly in the images of my blog. I make the visibility of the mark very less so that it cannot be seen at all.

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Emmanuel Betinis

15 years ago

I just don't want them hot-linking. That's all.

Thanks again, Bruce.

See ya.

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ChrisChoiSEO

15 years ago

Just wondering? Did that traffic convert into leads or sales?

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JayYamada 15 years ago

I read the alt text on image is also important, I'm wondering if alt text are used for search terms on google image? anyone?
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thunderbird 15 years ago

Originally Posted by ChrisChoiSEO

Just wondering? Did that traffic convert into leads or sales?

Yes, it did lead to conversions. That said, I suspect that it might work better for some niches than others, eg ones where people want to see visual examples, it helps, I've found. I guess if it was a site about SEO, something abstract, it probably wouldn't help much.
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thunderbird 15 years ago

Originally Posted by oca101

Have you put some water marks in your Images?.

Nope, but if one wants to do so, IncanSoft sells a script for that.
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Thomas W

15 years ago

There is no way i would stop my images from getting indexed. There is a huge opportunity in getting traffic from images.

Just add a break out of frames javascript and bam that image traffic goes strait into your web page.

I also allow people to hotlink now. I believe that it counts as a backlink. Thats my theory as to why sites that give away free web 2.0 layouts do pretty well.

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sylviad

15 years ago

So what's the difference between using that lengthy htaccess code and putting a no follow in a robot.txt file?

And does any of these have an impact on the images showing up in other sites where you link back to your own image? ie: at the WF for your profile pic.

I've come across some sites that you are prevented from copying the content. How do they do that? You cannot copy the text, images, or anything. That would be the ultimate solution, would it not? Then, people couldn't steal your sales pages either.

Sylvia

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Emmanuel Betinis 15 years ago

Originally Posted by sylviad

So what's the difference between using that lengthy htaccess code and putting a no follow in a robot.txt file?

Using the lengthy code in your .htaccess file will prevent people from using your images hosted on your site (hotlinking). As for the robot.txt file, I think you mean the disallow command. Putting a "Disallow: /images" in your robot.txt file will keep your images out of Google's index.
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thunderbird

15 years ago

The best way to overcome the danger of theft is to keep on creating.

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Glenn Leader 15 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

The best way to overcome the danger of theft is to keep on creating.

Nah,this give thieves more stuff to steal.
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John Romaine

15 years ago

Having people rip your content certainly sucks, but dont forget you can get great positioning in Google just through using images!

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Emmanuel Betinis 15 years ago

Originally Posted by ramone_johnny

Having people rip your content certainly sucks, but dont forget you can get great positioning in Google just through using images!

Yeah, that's why I like using that .htaccess code because your images can stay in Google's index while at the same time being protected from "hotlinkers".
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Emmanuel Betinis

15 years ago

Hey Bruce,

I was going to PM you with the following question but I figured I'd
ask "out loud" in front of everyone in case someone else also wonders
how to do what I'm about to ask...

I like the .htaccess trick to prevent images from loading from other
hotlinking sources. But what if I want to set up an exception for a
certain domain within that code (like to allow Aweber.com to
hotlink to my /images directory)?

EDIT: Also, I found a .htaccess file creator that allows you to
easily choose which files to disallow and which domains to allow,
which is nice and it's here: http://www.htaccesstools.com/hotlink-protection/
BUT I noticed that site says that if you choose to have a certain
image replaced (like a hairy butt or something) to make sure it does
NOT reside in the same hotlink-protected location as the others,
otherwise your server could "go into an endless loop". Bruce, I
noticed the code you gave us says the "replaced" image is also
in the hotlink-protected directory...based on my research at the
URL I just listed, wouldn't that put our servers at risk of going
into this "endless loop" they talk about? ...or is your code different
and prevents that from happening (even thought the 'dummy'
image is the hotlink-protected area)?

I'd appreciate input on this one!

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Bruce Hearder 15 years ago
If you want to allow a particular domain , its easy..

In the code I provided above, you will see the folllwing line
Code:

RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(www.)?mysite.com [NC]
Just add the urls that you want to allow to pull files from.

So, it could look like this..
Code:

RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(www.)?mysite.com [NC] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(www.)?aweber.com [NC]
Yes, you are right..

If you move the solen.gif file to the root, directory then you will opvercome the potential "endless loop" situtaion.

Though I have never had it happen to me, it is a possibility..

So change the lines that reads :
Code:

RewriteRule .*.(jpe?g|gif|bmp|png)$ /images/stolen.gif [R,L]
To
Code:

RewriteRule .*.(jpe?g|gif|bmp|png)$ /stolen.gif [R,L]
Hope this helps

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Emmanuel Betinis

15 years ago

In the entire overall code, there are two instances of the following line:

Code:

RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(www.)?mysite.com [NC]

Should I put the line in for Aweber after the first instance or after
the second instance?

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Bruce Hearder 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Emmanuel Betinis

IShould I put the line in for Aweber after the first instance or after
the second instance?

It should work just fine after the first mysite.com line

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MikEdwards

15 years ago

Visitor coming from Google images do see your site under a Google images frame. So make sure you have some good eye-catcher at the very top of your page, because the "before the fold" zone is shorter. I do get a Sh*tload of traffic to one of my sites from Google images. It doesn't convert as well as regular search traffic, but since I moved my bait to the complete top of my page, I have better results.

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TheKeys

15 years ago

I think it you work it right it can be beneficial to your business.. though in most instances it isn't

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