Same Exact Articles On Site And Ezinearticle?

by coreytucker 29 replies
I put about 7 articles on ezinearticles.com then about a week later I uploaded them to my website without any changes at all.

Im now wondering if this is hurting my websites rank in Google. If so would it just make each individual page rank lower as in either the ezinearticle ranks high or the actual page on my site ranks high?

Basically im just wondering if the search engines drop one or the other from the rankings. If so does this effect unique pages on my website or not? I have around 35 more articles ive written for this site and im wondering now if I should just create a new site and upload these new articles to a new site since these "duplicate" articles could be hurting my first site?

Any advice anyone? Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author kkchoon1
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    Don't worry about it, unless your site have a higher page rank than ezinearticles.com, your article most probably won't show at all.

    And Google already confirms that there are no duplicate content penalty, so it won't hurt your page rank.

    Think about it for a moment, if I am Google, and I want to slap someone because of duplicate content, won't I slap CNN, BBC and all other news site first? They are duplicating the same news all over the Internet!

    Bottom line, page that has more back links or based page rank will show! That's why website build on pure RSS still shows up if we do back links to the pages...!
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  • Profile picture of the author coreytucker
    ok, so having the same exact articles from ezinearticles wont hurt my overall sites rank? Because I have alot of unique articles I want to add to my site, but im wondering if I should just create a new site in the niche and add the other 35 articles to it.

    Then I would have 2 sites in the niche and I could just build them both up gradually with more content. Its definately something im considering doing....two large content sites sounds attractive to me for some reason also,lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author coreytucker
    but then again building backlinks for 2 sites does not sound good when I could just be doing it for one,lol.

    So you guys really think having some exact same articles as the ones of ezine articles wont hurt my overall site...just the pages with the articles?
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  • Profile picture of the author coreytucker
    I thought it was let them be live on your site then put the on EZA? Im just worried this has "ruined" my whole site and im going to let hours and hours of writing unique articles go down the drain just because of these 7 same articles.
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    • Profile picture of the author Emailrevealer
      Heres what you do.
      After about a week up live on ezine you put it up on your site BUT with an introductory paragaraph:

      Hey fans I wrote this article and it got such great reviews it wound up getting published all over the internet. Check it out and leave a comment. BTW you can find it live over at ezineanalretentiveeditors.com
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      • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
        Originally Posted by Emailrevealer View Post

        comment. BTW you can find it live over at ezineanalretentiveeditors.com <------
        LOL.. this is hilarious... haha.. I like it dude..

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  • Profile picture of the author dubliRus
    Corey, we are doing with our blog exactly what you have been doing. In that regard, I find this thread quite interesting and welcome more opinions.
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  • Profile picture of the author dubliRus
    Great Ben, that sounds correct and is just what we are doing. It appears Corey is doing the same.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Corey is asking about posting an article first to EZA and then later adding to your site. I prefer the same method as Ben as I index the articles on my sites first and then submit.

      Either way is fine - just do what you prefer. It's your own article and you can post it both places with no problem.


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  • Profile picture of the author Kelly Verge
    The problem with putting it on your site first is that when an EZA editor finds your article in the SERPS, they'll deny posting it on EZA.

    Corey has the right idea. You'll get the SEO benefit of the words each article contains even if you don't get the full juice from having unique articles.
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    • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
      Originally Posted by Kelly Verge View Post

      The problem with putting it on your site first is that when an EZA editor finds your article in the SERPS, they'll deny posting it on EZA.

      Corey has the right idea. You'll get the SEO benefit of the words each article contains even if you don't get the full juice from having unique articles.
      Nope.. this ain't true.. EZA often find my articles on my site and then publish them... it is OK if it is on your own site...

      My stats show EZA staff visiting with my site via a search in quotes, but they still publish...

      It's your work so they will still publish

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    • Profile picture of the author mrjonman
      Hey Kelly,

      I've never heard of ezineanalretentiveeditors.com refusing to publish an article that was already on a website.

      Thanks for the heads up.

      Boy, remember the "good old days" with EZA when there were 3 live links in your research box and only one editor was a pain to get past?
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      • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
        Originally Posted by mrjonman View Post

        and only one editor was a pain to get past?
        Good Ol' editor number 14 eh?... or was it 15... even so.. it'd be nice to only have that one roadblock again..lol

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  • Profile picture of the author tess47
    Corey

    It doesn't make ONE BIT of difference if you use the articles exactly as you submitted them to EZA.

    I started a site 9 weeks ago - brand new site. I submitted articles to EZA (I love writing articles, submit about 5 every day). I then proceeded to post two articles per week on my site - the very same articles I submitted to EZA.

    As of two weeks ago, when my site is less than 2 months old, I achieved a 2 pagerank. Now I'm not saying it's because I have all these articles on my site, but all the content certainly helps!

    So don't worry about posting the same articles. It's perfectly OK.

    Hope this helps
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    • Profile picture of the author dubliRus
      Tess, how do you think you got a rank of 2 in only a few weeks?
      Is it because of the niche you are in, the keywords you are using, the articles you are writing, or perhaps even all of the above?
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      The problem with putting it on your site first is that when an EZA editor finds your article in the SERPS, they'll deny posting it on EZA.
      No, they won't. I've been doing it this way for years with no problems. I had one article questioned - answered the question and the article was published.

      It's the same author and the same site is referenced in the bio box. You can't plagiarize yourself.

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  • Profile picture of the author Kelly Verge
    Perhaps my problem came from a bigger mistake on my part:

    I used a couple of paragraphs from a recently-EZA-submitted article (that I wrote) as a writing sample on a site where I was selling PLR packages. The PLR site had my name, but I'm on EZA with a pen name. I couldn't convince them that I was the author or that it was unique content...

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  • Profile picture of the author tess47
    dubliRus,

    It's sure not because of the niche I'm in - a work at home niche, very competitive.

    I'm sure it's a combination of several things - lots of articles, a few good backlinks, and I'm pretty good with SEO. Plus, my site is pretty large (over 60 pages so far), and it's FULL of content.

    Still, it surprised me that I got that page rank so quickly, but I'm not going to complain!
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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
    Corey,

    Post them on your site until they are spidered and indexed. Then you can post them to EZA and elsewhere if you want to.

    I see a lot of people giving advice without showing you any proof. Do they have any? How are they testing their theories? Are they verifying their results?

    I'll shoot you a PM with my data, too much to type again. LOL

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    • Profile picture of the author Ben Roy
      Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

      Corey,

      Post them on your site until they are spidered and indexed. Then you can post them to EZA and elsewhere if you want to.

      I see a lot of people giving advice without showing you any proof. Do they have any? How are they testing their theories? Are they verifying their results?

      I'll shoot you a PM with my data, too much to type again. LOL

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      I think most of us are saying the same thing: you can submit to both and it's fine.

      And I don't think most people should have to 'wait' for the indexing to happen. It takes a couple days for EZA to get around to publishing, which gives plenty of time for Google to come by. Heck, most of the time I see Googlebot pick up my new articles within just a couple hours.
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      • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
        Originally Posted by Ben Roy View Post

        I think most of us are saying the same thing: you can submit to both and it's fine.

        And I don't think most people should have to 'wait' for the indexing to happen. It takes a couple days for EZA to get around to publishing, which gives plenty of time for Google to come by. Heck, most of the time I see Googlebot pick up my new articles within just a couple hours.
        Ben,

        Most of us aren't saying the same thing... only some of us are.... essentially we are all saying you can put the content on both properties, but the order in which you do it is VERY important..

        The BEST way to do this is putting your content on your own site first, and then publishing elsewhere...

        Some above were saying EZA first, when really you want the content indexed on your site first...

        Half my blog posts end up on EZA, but they belong to my site originally, so Google sees them at my place first, before EZA use them for adsense clicks

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        • Profile picture of the author Ben Roy
          Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

          Ben,

          Most of us aren't saying the same thing... only some of us are.... essentially we are all saying you can put the content on both properties, but the order in which you do it is VERY important...
          Fair enough, but the original question was simply "does it hurt to put them on both", and both sides agree "no".
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          • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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            Originally Posted by Ben Roy View Post

            Fair enough, but the original question was simply "does it hurt to put them on both", and both sides agree "no".
            Nor does Google care which site posted it first. If it did, I wouldn't outrank EA for articles I have taken from their site and posted on my site, even thought they were clearly posted on EA first.
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      Thanks Allen. I was very interested in the true answer to this question and was glad to see an authoritative response.
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  • Profile picture of the author tess47
    If Allen is referring to me about showing no proof, my site is in my sig. Look it up on "Whois", it was created 7-25-08.
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  • Profile picture of the author coreytucker
    wow thanks alot guys for the replies! OK OK, most people here act like its not a big deal. I will just keep the site im building and continue to let it grow. Thanks so much for the great replies, it has helped alot!

    Im going to go ahead and start adding 2 new pages on content per day from here on. Now I just need to figure out a good backlink building strategy
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  • First question...Why do you want both? Do you really want people to leave your "whatever page" to go read the article that tells them to go to your "whatever page"? Why?

    You don't need to do both! Article directories is enough, that is where your traffic is coming from! Isn't that why you wrote it in the first place? Plus, you get the one-way link credit.

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