List Control - yeah, that's just what this forum needs

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Yes we all need list control.

But, sorry to hoodwink ya, this has nothing to do with an apparent recent launch that's been going on recently, but it IS related to the seemingly unending desire for some folk to create lists, like this:

Whos's your favorite marketer?
Who's your favorite teacher?
Who's your favorite g*u*r*u?
Who's your fave Warrior?
Who's list are you on?
What do you hate about IM?
What's your favorite beer?

With the possible exception of the last one, which I made up and isn't in fact a list, I don't care!

And neither should you.

As the sub heading to this forum says, this is, 'Where We Talk About Making Money'

Forget about what other people think and do. Get on with the job of running your own business and leave these inane, pointless lists to the Off Topic forum.

Peter
#control #forum #list #yeah
  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Thanks for posting this, Peter.

    It's the same reason why opinion polls shouldn't make the tiniest difference to the way one thinks.

    If a poll said 99.99999% of the people supported mandatory cheese inspections, that doesn't make it okay.

    To be blunt, people need to learn to think for themselves.

    Yes, you can get guidance, feedback, suggestions, support, validation, coaching, mentoring, and advice, but not at the expense of your own personal beliefs and moral compass.

    All the best,
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  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    Originally Posted by Peter Bestel View Post

    What's your favorite beer?
    I think that particular inane, pointless list is indeed in the Off Topic forum.


    But as for the rest of your post -- I agree. And I also agree with Michael, who said people need to learn to think for themselves.

    I'd also add that people need to create business plans. That way, when the next "big and shiny" product comes out, you won't get distracted. Just check your business plan to see this product would actually help you further your goals. If so, buy it and use it. If not, ignore it and move on.

    Cheers,
    Becky
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Thanks for posting, Peter. I've been guilty of participating in these; gotta quit contributing to the delinquency of the intellectually lazy...

      Oh, and my favorite beer?

      Whatever you are buying...
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      • Profile picture of the author Peter Bestel
        (I'm obviously disappointing a lot of people with the content of this thread, given the title - 200 views and 4 replies. Hehe.)

        Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

        To be blunt, people need to learn to think for themselves.
        It is amazing how many people on this forum, who purport to be running their own business, don't think for themselves. Surely that can't be the case?

        I truly believe that you cannot run a business and be devoid of independent thought, therefore they're not running a business, are they - they're just pi**ing about, pretending.

        But no sweat.

        There's a great real-life metaphor that I've mentioned before:

        ***********
        A championship-winning oarsman was interviewed about their rival boat crew, what did he think of the rival's troubles?

        "Not in our boat." He replied.

        ***********

        It's a useful phrase to keep with you, especially just before you find yourself about to wade into a conversation/discussion that you know ain't going anywhere:

        Not in our boat!

        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        Thanks for posting, Peter. I've been guilty of participating in these; gotta quit contributing to the delinquency of the intellectually lazy...

        Oh, and my favorite beer?

        Whatever you are buying...
        I've probably done it myself too John. It's alright to waste a bit of time on these things, but some take it far too seriously.

        And I'd gladly buy you a beer, but the button's gone missing!


        Peter
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by Peter Bestel View Post

          I've probably done it myself too John. It's alright to waste a bit of time on these things, but some take it far too seriously.

          And I'd gladly buy you a beer, but the button's gone missing!


          Peter
          Then I'll be happy to accept a wee dram of whisky if I ever get to bonny Scotland...
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        • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
          Originally Posted by Peter Bestel View Post

          (I'm obviously disappointing a lot of people with the content of this thread, given the title - 200 views and 4 replies. Hehe.)
          Here's how to get your thread blazing with replies...

          Leave the title as is.

          Delete ALL of your original post and replace it with this post (be sure to copy and paste in it's entirety):

          Frank Kern
          Now go get yourself a bottle of your favorite beer... and watch your thread burn up like a prairie fire.

          Cheers,
          Becky
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          • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
            Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

            If a poll said 99.99999% of the people supported mandatory cheese inspections, that doesn't make it okay.
            Hey, don't mess with my cheese!

            Psst...leave to a guy from Wisconsin to figure out how to work 'cheese' into a thread about list control.

            Originally Posted by Peter Bestel View Post

            It is amazing how many people on this forum, who purport to be running their own business, don't think for themselves. Surely that can't be the case?
            There are always more followers than thinkers/leaders in any group...and stop calling me Shirley.

            So who are your favorite thinkers and leaders? :rolleyes: :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    Peter, favorite????????????????????

    You forgot to ask which ice cream, wine, chocolate, place to live etc as well.

    One other thing you missed is the people who tend to ask these questions are not running their own business. They come with an employee mindset and can't think for themselves.
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    Actually, I am really disappointed that everybody hijacks this thread by talking about everything else but the favourite beer
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Amen brother Peter .. Preach it! - Some people seriously need to sign-off and go to their own website and start marketing it from what they have learned instead of wondering who is rich and who is not, who is a guru and who is not, who is famous or who is not..

    I would be shocked to know that some do not actually have a shrine in their home to some of these so-called gurus.

    James
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    • Profile picture of the author JMPruitt
      Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

      Amen brother Peter .. Preach it! - Some people seriously need to sign-off and go to their own website and start marketing it from what they have learned instead of wondering who is rich and who is not, who is a guru and who is not, who is famous or who is not..

      I would be shocked to know that some do not actually have a shrine in their home to some of these so-called gurus.

      James
      I do have my shrine, dedicated to you... YOu are my GURU....


      hehehehe...
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    Whos's your favorite marketer? -- me
    Who's your favorite teacher? -- Ms. Landley (5th grade)
    Who's your favorite g*u*r*u? -- Dalai Lama
    Who's your fave Warrior? -- The meek one in back who looked really scared when they were chanting, "Warriors, come out and play-ay."
    Who's list are you on? -- I was voted least likely to take anything seriously back in high school
    What do you hate about IM? -- When the person you're im'ing won't let you get a word in edge-wise
    What's your favorite beer? -- How random. Shiner Bock, local Texas favorite.
    I couldn't really be bothered to read everything else, but these list thingies are like wet paint signs to me. Wait, were we not supposed to fill out this list? It looks like nobody else did. What's the deal?

    John :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
      Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

      Wait, were we not supposed to fill out this list? It looks like nobody else did. What's the deal?
      Yes, of course you were supposed to fill out the list. But you were also supposed to immediately forward it to ten friends. I can't remember why, though. Either Bill Gates would send you a couple thousand bucks or something bad wouldn't happen to you. Or maybe both.

      cheers,
      Becky
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  • Profile picture of the author esr
    I absolutely LOVE it when someone has the b*lls to post something that everyone else is thinking. Thanks Peter!
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by esr View Post

      I absolutely LOVE it when someone has the b*lls to post something that everyone else is thinking. Thanks Peter!
      I don't know what bylls are, but I get what you're saying.

      ~M~
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Maybe there should be a "Worship The Guru" forum just for those that like to post these kinds of threads. Then they can stay all day and post how much of a "genius" this one is and how much of a "genius" that one is..

    James
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    Yup, Peter, I sometimes get the feeling that people posting that stuff have shrines set up in their bedrooms with pictures of their fave g.uru, beads, incense, and candles burning while they recite some mantra over and over each morning.

    Me?--I don't have the candles and beads in my bedroom, just a poster of Natalie Merchant and a framed dollar--the first one I ever made selling one of my books. (Before you ask, yes--it's a Confederate war bond from 1861
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

      Yup, Peter, I sometimes get the feeling that people posting that stuff have shrines set up in their bedrooms with pictures of their fave g.uru, beads, incense, and candles burning while they recite some mantra over and over each morning.
      Now there's an image I'll have to get out of my head...

      Camera angled from behind. Basement bedroom, walls covered with assorted posters and centerfolds. In the corner, a table with a framed screen capture of Kern surrounded by candles and incense. On the floor, in classic lotus position, sits a scruffy dude chanting "buy my ****, buy my ****, buy my ****..."

      Thanks a lot, Mike...
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      • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        Now there's an image I'll have to get out of my head...

        Camera angled from behind. Basement bedroom, walls covered with assorted posters and centerfolds. In the corner, a table with a framed screen capture of Kern surrounded by candles and incense. On the floor, in classic lotus position, sits a scruffy dude chanting "buy my ****, buy my ****, buy my ****..."

        Thanks a lot, Mike...
        John, the reference to the "scruffy dude" must be to me . I knew you had voyeuristic tendencies. You've been window peeking again and now my secret is out!

        But revenge is sweet. If you've got an image of a 58 year old fat Irish guy with his booty crack showing while sitting in that lotus position--well, that's gunna haunt you forever :p. --Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
    Peter Bestel is my favourite Gooroo...

    There, I said it... now can I please get a signed photograph?

    Jay
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
    Michael

    Actually there are 2 list of bylls.

    1. Yes bylls 2. No bylls

    Which list are you on? :p
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by Ken Leatherman View Post

      Michael

      Actually there are 2 list of bylls.

      1. Yes bylls 2. No bylls

      Which list are you on? :p
      That's silly Ken, Michael is from Wisconsin. He's on the cheese bylls list.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mukul Verma
    I dont like beer (please dont hate).

    So whats your favorite way to make money online?
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    • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
      Originally Posted by Mukul Verma View Post


      So whats your favorite way to make money online?
      With all due respect, sir... we have much more important things to discuss, there are lists to be made!

      Jay
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      • Profile picture of the author KarlWarren
        Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

        With all due respect, sir... we have much more important things to discuss, there are lists to be made!

        Jay
        I've made mine, and I'm checking it twice
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by Ken Leatherman View Post

          Michael

          Actually there are 2 list of bylls.

          1. Yes bylls 2. No bylls

          Which list are you on? :p
          I've been trying for years to win one of those "no bylls" peace prizes, but it seems you have to do more than fill out the application...:p
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        • Profile picture of the author Eric Graudins
          Originally Posted by KarlWarren View Post

          I've made mine, and I'm checking it twice
          With just 2 columns - naughty and nice.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mukul Verma
        Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

        With all due respect, sir... we have much more important things to discuss, there are lists to be made!

        Jay
        doh, I mean how do we make money list!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    Yes all these inane topics do get annoying, particularly the Frank Kern lovefest. But regarding him, he did gross 2 million in sales with this latest launch in just a few hours, so I think marketers can admire him!

    As for all the other silly topics, well, it a forum, after all. People are going to start topics that will quite likely waste your time, particularly if it's a rant or meaningless to making money poll. That's just the way it is...(cue song here)
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  • Profile picture of the author acrasial
    Or how about whiny threads, or posts that just complain, complain, complain.


    I may be the master at it, but isn't it the job of warriors to monitor this and report it?


    If anyone on this damn forum has a complaint, or wants to sit and whine, there is a button which looks like this:


    USE IT, REPORT the junk. Save the world...one step at a time. Just takes one action, to start a chain of events afterward.


    So what chain of events do you want to start? Just chit chats and arguments? Just complaints and whining?


    Or simply use the TOOLS Allen has provided you with to get rid of the junk so that you don't have to sit there getting a headache sifting through junk...so that you don't have to sit there wasting your time telling people to get a life....so that you don't have to sit there getting mad when you see trolls all over the place!


    And if you want to call me out on it, it wouldn't bother me, because I am NOT always right when I post my whiny threads, or when I post my complaints on here. Just like everyone else is not always right. I would gladly admit that, should someone take action, but until then, deal with it!


    Why should it be the noobs who only get their posts removed? Why should they have to feel discriminated against and go on a rampage in the off topic forum complaining that their thread added value and it was removed, whilst there are others whose threads are totally useless and never get removed?


    But I have yet to see anyone take action against me either. So now's the time. Step up to the plate, it's your turn to bat!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Originally Posted by Peter Bestel View Post

    .......

    Forget about what other people think and do. Get on with the job of running your own business and leave these inane, pointless lists to the Off Topic forum.

    Peter
    That's the wisest thing I've read today. Now I'm going to go the kitchen and make myself a kick*** martini!

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