Yet ANOTHER Reason So Many Fail Online

Sure it's about work, but about working "smarter", not necessarily "harder".

"Hard" workers will not necessarily succeed either, I have to say an even bigger obstacle to success, online or off, is lack of focus and tenacity.

Best!

No doubt about working smarter.

But when folks don't have know how to work at all then "smarter" may already be a loss. :-)

Interesing article from Seth G...

Seth's Blog: Is effort a myth?

Agree 100% that hard work is the beginning requirement. Give nothing, get nothing is a truth online as well as off.

Success and hard work offline will not necessarily translate into the same thing online. A lot depends on your particular talents and abilities.

I was a teacher and I am an effective teacher online. Not sure that makes me a good "marketer".

Carol Smith

"I've missed more than nine thousand shots in my career. I've lost almost three hundred games. Twenty-six times I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that's why I succeed."


- Michael Jordan; professional basketball player

Huh? Isn't Khuram a scammer? I guess he's one of those who don't want to work, not doing the work many paid him to do. He should take his own advice.

Another reason for failure is scamming people. But he may just come back under a different id.

I agree, in my opinion you may have to just start "working hard" and get to "working smart" after you've learned the ropes. No matter what your working at.... But there again "work" is the common theme. No getting around that.

Jason Bolte

Yupz, you have to be patient in whatever you do if you want to see success.
If you give up halfway then all is lost. Make sure you continue to learn and focus on your goals, and I'm sure we can succeed.

Some workers are like this. Other workers work their tails off and do anything they are asked to do and more, without complaining. In WA State, the minimum wage is $8.07 and goes up every year. The problem with having such a high minimum? The gap between what the lazy whiner makes and the model employee makes is very small. We, as employers, cannot afford to give the good employees what they deserve...because we have to pay EVERYBODY such a high wage.

That's one of the major problems with increasing the minimum wage.

</rant> Sorry for the thread hijack.

The conclusion = Hard work + Smart work = HUGE SUCCESS

It is not likely that once you stumbled across a money making opportunity
and you can become a millionaire with it. Even with smart work, you will
still need to at least put in some work to make it comes true.

If you truly want for long-term success, you cannot run away from hard
work and smart work.

Good thoughts all.

The "herd mentality" post in the War Room is great thought catalyst for failure online.



On being trained... This may just be in my area but the Chik-Fil-A group has trained some great employees. Told my son (15) that if he got a higher paying job at another place I would pay the difference for him to be under Chick-Fil-A management.

Khuram Dhanani was called out for not delivering on this WSO. He was also called out for not answering PMs, emails and other correspondence. His post, which the OP quoted has merit but does not apply to him. His post was a nice piece of PR. There are lots of people who are willing to work hard and fail miserably. You need the right offer in front of the right audience at the right time. This is not the easiest formula to implement. If it were, we'd all be rich and this forum would have maybe 10 posts.

TomG.

Excellent Post Paul Evans! I own offline businesses. when I came online I knew that I would have to learn, work hard and take consistent action. It took me 2 to 3 Years to earn a profit in my offline businesses. It took me 9 months to turn a profit with my online business.

Thanks Craig.

Naruq... what a great example of the tenacity mentioned earlier!

It takes different amounts of time for different people. But it takes work for all people.

TomG - true. Same as offline. Lots of people work hard and fail.

Hard work isn't THE answer, just part of an answer.

Just like it's not THE reason for online failure, but another piece of the puzzle.

As we all know - Failure/Success is rarely linked to ONE thing, but a combination.

However, I still believe that it's going to be MUCH harder for the person who is lazy and who has been trained to expect fire before putting in the wood (Earl Nightingale reference) than for the person who enters the online world with a strong work ethic.

I know for me, when I worked offline, I started out in my Journalism career all hard working and proud. As my J-O-B grew (it was no career), and I saw management higher than myself take credit for my work, or got frustrated with how everyone else got the same pay when they didn't do anything (and were proud of it), it made me quit working hard. I didn't care.

Online, though - I thrived. I had NO boss. NO salary confines. NO strict job description - I could switch gears if I wanted!!

NOW...I'm back to my old, enthusiastic self. I have dreams that have come alive again. I don't have to worry if my boss will jerk me around because I AM the boss. I don't have to get disgruntled with lazy coworkers because I don't HAVE any.

So even if someone's disheartened about offline careers, they can awaken online and as I know to be true - work harder for themselves than they EVER have for someone else.
tiff

Absolutely Tiffany.

Thanks for your example!!!

My grandfather told me something when I started working (at 12 yrs old).

He said "Boy, always work like you are being paid $2.00 and hour more than you are really getting. If you work like that your boss will see it and pay you what you deserve. Don't wait for the raise before you start working hard, it doesn't work that way. Prove you deserve the money and it will come."

That advice has always served me well. Thank you Pop Pop.

Adam

Adam, is I do even more important than I can?

TomG.

Or does the sales letter do a poor job of properly qualifying its prospects?

I know lots of people who "work hard" but have a phobia about anything and everything technical.

Does the product speak well to its intended audience in a language they understand and at their level of expertise?

I know lots of people who "work hard" however, they would succumb to frustration then eventually quit if the product/process/system didn't speak to them in their language or at their level of expertise.

Even if you had the best prospect that was properly qualified to attempt/execute the information in the product, it still comes down to focus, calculated risk & the intelligence/willingness to identify/analyze failures then recover from them continually to reach a point of sustained personal success.

The fact is that not "everybody" can make money online despite their Herculean work ethic... I know it's a brutal fact but it's one that remains a constant regardless of how well polished the product is or how big the product creator's ego is.

One size does not fit all in IM so naturally, there will be a percentage of fallout which really shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

Khuram didn't mention any of his customers who were successful with the implementation of his system (even with his personal one on one coaching as his sales letter states) so that in and of itself speaks volumes about where the root of the failure resides.

I agree that success is not an accident. In any form of life, be it social, professional, personal, etc. the more effort one puts into these aspects, the more successful they'll become.

I believe one part of this is going above and beyond what is expected of you. This is what creates true relationships that will have strong bonds to stand the test of time.

I definitely agree with that, although, I believe that many people must go online and work harder BEFORE they realize they can work smarter.

I agree totally. When I actually do see someone hustling or going above and beyond these days, I really take notice and often compliment them on their performance. But again, these are rare occasions.

Cindy - Michel Gerber's book "Awaken the Entrepreneur Within" maybe of interest to you.

It's not only hard work that is required, it's enjoyment, and good management.

When people enjoy what they do it's easier to put in the effort and by going the extra yard makes a huge difference - especially for anyone who is self-employed.

If you have to sell ten widgets each day in order to feed your family you won't sell 4 then go and surf the internet or read the paper.

Now sadly the easy product to sell is the one that is marketed to be the "golden button" that turns the 4 sales into 10. It encourages laziness, and is perhaps indicative of the current financial mess the world is in.

After all wouldn't it be great to get a 7% guaranteed return on a bunch of mortgages. Just a shame that all taxpayers are now suffering from the mistakes of the newbie investment bankers who didn't fully read the salespage.

I totally agree Paul...When I first started as an Internet Marketer, I knew there was going to be work involved, but was a lot more in reality. I am stepping up though because I want my online business to be a success...

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Totally agree. A lot of people just think the world owes them something and sit around waiting for it. You have to work hard in this life to get anywhere, not many things are going to be handed to you on a silver platter.

People who do exceptionally well, online or off, have a completely different mindset. You have to think like a rich person, believe you are worth what you want to make. Most of us get a paycheck twice a month, and we accept that, that is what we are worth, and that is all we will ever be worth. In order to rise above the rest and be more successful, you have to change your thinking completely, and reset your "financial thermostat," so to speak. You are what you think you're worth, and as a result you will put in the effort required to get to the level you want. If the people around you think you're crazy...so what? Chances are they don't make much money. They won't be laughing or criticizing once you get things rolling. Start hanging out with millionaires, and pretty soon you might become one!

I feel that focus is the key. If one is continually being sidetracked then no momentum is created. It has taken me a year to find a way to get my products and site up and running and I still have to optimize it! However I am not discouraged because I know the future, for me, is on the web.

The most successful internet entrepreneurs I know all have an instinct for understanding
the emotional feelings of their prospects and customers, and tap into that psychology to
help those people take action in buying.

A lot of times, people not coming from a sales and marketing background have a difficult time
understanding the reality that people buy for their reasons, not because you want to make
a sale.

So spend a lot of time studying human psychology as it relates to what people really want,
especially in the marketplace you work in.

Study their posts in forums, newgroups, yahoo answers, etc -- and study how your
competitors relate to those prospects too -- you will learn tons from your competitors!

Hope this helps a bit (see ISS below for more on this).

Mark Hendricks