I Really Wish I Could Transfer Some Posts To Blogs...

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Some of our members here seem to be confused as to what this forum section is about.

It's about MONEY. Specifically MAKING Money....

Before you post, ask yourself if your post wouldn't be better suited to a blog post. If it would be, then please do that. Either on a blog here or a blog on your own site.

I think we've had enough of the rantings and philosophy to last us a while...


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#blogs #posts #transfer
  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
    Lol... Love the Simile Allen...

    I agree with you 100%

    The ranting is just too demotivating and distracting.

    I need positive reinforcement when I visit

    Great Post and very Good point!

    Thanks,
    Have a Great Day!
    Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
    Originally Posted by admin View Post


    It's about MONEY. Specifically MAKING Money....
    I'm so glad you posted that Allen.. it should save
    a lot of time if it helps to cut out the off topic rants
    and self absorbed crap.

    Thanks

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author flnz400
    Thank God someone finally came out of the woodwork! Almost half of the posts in this forum have nothing to do with amassing any income whatsoever.

    So much so, that I often do not participate, as it zaps creative energy and action.

    Strategy and Action required for production? Who woulda thunk it?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark McWilliams
    ...Someone should create a vB plugin which basically says, move this users thread, to their blog instead! - Then all the replies get turned into comments!

    You'd probably have a field day Allen!

    (Am I just acting plain and utter stupid now?!)

    It's the thought and idea that counts though.

    Thanks
    Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author admin
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      Originally Posted by Mark McWilliams View Post

      ...Someone should create a vB plugin which basically says, move this users thread, to their blog instead! - Then all the replies get turned into comments!

      You'd probably have a field day Allen!

      (Am I just acting plain and utter stupid now?!)

      It's the thought and idea that counts though.

      Thanks
      Mark

      No actually that's not a bad idea, not at all. I think some hacker could pull that off. The button to do that would have to be available only to admins but it's a good idea. One touch cleanup :-)
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      • Profile picture of the author KarlWarren
        I was going to ask:

        "Who moved the off topic forum"

        I'm probably guilty of the occasional off topic thread here, but I haven't posted a lot recently - there doesn't seem to be much to comment on with all the off topic stuff here.

        Fair enough, the "economic crisis" is newsworthy, but 30 threads about it in a day is ridiculous. It's almost as if people have forgotten how to make money...

        Until my bank closes down with all my money in it, I couldn't give a rat's rectum about the "crisis" - I'm just going to keep making money and bucking the trend.

        Allen, a very timely reminder.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark McWilliams
        Originally Posted by admin View Post

        No actually that's not a bad idea, not at all. I think some hacker could pull that off. The button to do that would have to be available only to admins but it's a good idea. One touch cleanup :-)
        Yay!

        Now who is going to code it up then? I've never even used vBulletin before, so your asking the wrong guy! Allen, why don't you see what your team of Monkey's can do? (I don't really mean monkeys, honest, it's just that your the Monkey God!)

        ...I wouldn't actually mind seeing an idea of mine build! HEHE

        Thanks
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        • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
          I thought I wasn't the only one that was seeing things...

          In the last few weeks I haven't been replying to as many posts as I normally would because there's not as much substance to the posts as I'm used to reading in the forum. Not all, but quite a few.

          Now, I wasn't sure if I was the only one who was seeing the same thing.

          However what I have noticed is that it seems as if the participation is down quite a bit in the last few weeks from a lot warriors who normally contribute on a regular basis.

          I wasn't sure if it was related to the downturn to the economy or if it was related to the types of posts that were being made and not as many people were responding.


          Anyways Allan thanks for bringing this to light in the forum and hopefully we can get it resolved or find a solution to keep the integrity of the forum.

          Frank Bruno
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  • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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    Well said Allen.
    They are becoming very tedious.
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  • Profile picture of the author admin
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    Rat's Rectum <-- That's what I'm saying :-)

    That should be a domain name..LOL!
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Allen, first of all, I want to offer my personal apology if I've contributed to
      this problem. I know I occasionally make a post here that is probably best
      made elsewhere or not at all. I do try to keep most of my stuff relevant and
      on the topic of making money.

      A simple solution is this.

      If members see a post that they feel doesn't belong in main discussion, they
      should report it.

      Eventually, if enough posts are deleted, people will get the message.

      Me included.

      Sorry for my contribution to this mess.
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      • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post


        Eventually, if enough posts are deleted, people will get the message.
        That's the problem Steve,
        They don't.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
          Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

          That's the problem Steve,
          They don't.
          Yep they'll just start a new post..."why was my post about the meaning of life deleted--you anti-freedom of speech bastage".

          Good to see we're all being watched to keep these posts in the main forum on track. That's the reason for the off-topic section anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author Diana Lane
    Perhaps you could show some kind of message to people who are on the point of posting?

    'STOP! CAUTION! As a potential contributor, you are advised that failing to provide true value will result in our resident Postbot chewing up your hard drive and barfing it out through your CD ROM tray. Can your post really help you or others make money?'

    Just an idea. Clearly, the message needs some work
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Allen, your post gets my vote for a "30 day sticky".
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  • Profile picture of the author primuskannan
    Perhaps a rant and philosophical sub section.

    Wish we had that sticky from the old main forum " How can this forum make you $50,000 or more....... Very Inspiring that was.

    Kulasekaran.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dave Allen
      Originally Posted by primuskannan View Post

      Perhaps a rant and philosophical sub section.

      Kulasekaran.
      That would be the "One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest" forum... er... I mean "The Off Topic" forum.

      All kidding aside! That's where those types of threads should be posted. IMHO.
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      • Profile picture of the author sylviad
        It certainly will help to stay focused here - and I, too, must admit I've probably broken the rule.

        In my limited experience in the "Off Topic" and other forums, it seems that they do not get sufficient responses to bring sufficient feedback. The Warriors with all the best advice seem to spend more time in the main forum. This might have something to do with people posting off-topic threads to the main section. I know I've considered putting a few recent posts over there, but when I read the description of the off-topic forum, my topic didn't seem to quite fit.

        Maybe if more Warriors visited those other sections, they would get used more readily. And maybe if the description of those sections was clearer...

        Just my opinion, of course.

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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Originally Posted by sylviad View Post

          It certainly will help to stay focused here - and I, too, must admit I've probably broken the rule.

          In my limited experience in the "Off Topic" and other forums, it seems that they do not get sufficient responses to bring sufficient feedback. The Warriors with all the best advice seem to spend more time in the main forum. This might have something to do with people posting off-topic threads to the main section. I know I've considered putting a few recent posts over there, but when I read the description of the off-topic forum, my topic didn't seem to quite fit.

          Maybe if more Warriors visited those other sections, they would get used more readily. And maybe if the description of those sections was clearer...

          Just my opinion, of course.

          Sylvia

          Sylvia, you've really hit on the main problem. Look at the main page at
          the number of people in each section.

          You will find that the Main Discussion and WSO sections are the most
          frequented. As a matter of fact, here are the numbers right now as we
          speak.

          Main Discussion 381
          WSO 458
          Classifieds 32
          Ad Networks 10
          Mind Warriors 10
          Copywriting 19
          Adsense 14
          Product Reviews 39
          War Room 32
          Programming 8
          Web Design 5
          For Hire 3
          PIFP 59
          MMO 2
          JVs 4
          OT 31
          Local Meetings 2

          Anything I've left out has 0.

          As you can see, we hang out in 2 places here.

          Until that changes, people are going to post their questions and concerns
          in Main Discussion.
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          • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post


            Until that changes, people are going to post their questions and concerns
            in Main Discussion.
            Have you considered that starting threads that are not
            specifically about making money does nothing but
            clutter up the main forum?

            Those of us who are busy making money don't have the
            time to wade through all the philosophical, ranting, whining
            crap.

            If the forum wants to benefit from the solid, experienced
            contributors.. then make it easy for them by keeping the
            main forum on topic.

            John
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            • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
              Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post

              Have you considered that starting threads that are not
              specifically about making money does nothing but
              clutter up the main forum?

              Those of us who are busy making money don't have the
              time to wade through all the philosophical, ranting, whining
              crap.

              If the forum wants to benefit from the solid, experienced
              contributors.. then make it easy for them by keeping the
              main forum on topic.

              John
              John, I actually agree with you.

              Here's the problem though.

              Sam Smith has a problem. It's not directly related to making money and
              he knows it belongs in OT but if he posts it there, he knows it's not going
              to be answered.

              This leaves him with only one recourse...to go elsewhere other than this
              forum.

              Personally, I think that's sad when I always felt we prided ourselves on
              helping others when they needed help...even if it wasn't directly related
              to making money.

              I'm not saying this is right or wrong. I'm just trying to see another point
              of view here.

              I'd hate to see a day come when I am in dire straits and I need the help
              of somebody here but because it's not directly related to making money,
              I have to post it in OT and pray somebody finds it and responds to it.
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              • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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                Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                Sam Smith has a problem. It's not directly related to making money and
                he knows it belongs in OT but if he posts it there, he knows it's not going
                to be answered.
                So Sam Smith thinks, to hell with the rules,
                I'm going to have my say anyway.

                Who gives a toss if 90% of the forum don't want to read
                this sort of post.

                As long as half a dozen reply "Wow great post again Sam"
                that's just fine.
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                • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
                  Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

                  So Sam Smith thinks, to hell with the rules,
                  I'm going to have my say anyway.

                  Who gives a toss if 90% of the forum don't want to read
                  this sort of post.

                  As long as half a dozen reply "Wow great post again Sam"
                  that's just fine.
                  Les I'm not talking about somebody making a "great post". I'm talking
                  about somebody saying "Hey guys, I have a serious problem here. Can you
                  help me out?"

                  So in other words, the hell with this person? Let him go get his problem
                  solved at some other forum or by his mommy and daddy?

                  If that's what this forum is about, I think it's sad.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
                    Steve,

                    I don't think that is what Allen had in mind when he made this thread, but maybe he did? Not really sure.

                    I took it as he did not want the "rant" threads and others like it that had absolutely no marketing value to them.

                    If we went by the guidelines that a couple people would like us to follow there would be all of 10 posts in the whole General Discussion section of the forum.

                    Keep doing what your doing, if Allen has a problem with something that you or any of us are doing, I'm sure he will let us know in his own way




                    Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                    Les I'm not talking about somebody making a "great post". I'm talking
                    about somebody saying "Hey guys, I have a serious problem here. Can you
                    help me out?"

                    So in other words, the hell with this person? Let him go get his problem
                    solved at some other forum or by his mommy and daddy?

                    If that's what this forum is about, I think it's sad.
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                  • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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                    Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                    Les I'm not talking about somebody making a "great post". I'm talking
                    about somebody saying "Hey guys, I have a serious problem here. Can you
                    help me out?"

                    So in other words, the hell with this person? Let him go get his problem
                    solved at some other forum or by his mommy and daddy?

                    If that's what this forum is about, I think it's sad.
                    You're twisting things around now Steve.
                    You weren't talking about people with serious problems.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
                      Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

                      You're twisting things around now Steve.
                      You weren't talking about people with serious problems.
                      Actually, I wasn't talking about anything specific at all. But my point is that
                      there are some cases where even though a post may not be about making
                      money, it serves no purpose to be posted elsewhere.

                      I agree, rants about politics, the economy and other things of that nature
                      have no place here. That's what OT is for.

                      But if I go by your definition of what you feel doesn't belong here (my post
                      in specific) then 90% of the posts here don't belong.

                      I mean, where do we draw the line?

                      I will be the first to admit, I in no way want the responsibility of
                      determining what should and shouldn't be posted here, but unless specific
                      guidelines are laid down, and severe punishments handed out to offenders,
                      the problem (if there is one) isn't going to go away.

                      As I said, I made what I felt was a perfectly legit post and you felt
                      differently. As I consider myself an intelligent person and still can't see
                      where I erred, obviously the rules aren't that clear cut.

                      So fine, let's make them clear cut and those who break them more than
                      once are tossed out. Then, examples will be set and the problem will go
                      away.

                      Probably along with half the membership too.
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                    • Profile picture of the author sylviad
                      Ok. So here's an example.

                      Last week, I needed to change the teeny battery in my Motherboard. Time was of the essence and I knew there was an excellent chance there were Warriors who could help.

                      Had I put that request in the Off-Topic forum, I'd probably still be waiting for an answer - in part because people don't frequent that forum as often. My request would not have been seen as readily.

                      Here's the dilemma. Since fixing my computer is not specifically about making money, but has a direct impact on whether I make money, does that make it appropriate for the main discussion area or the Off-Topic section?

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                      • Profile picture of the author ShayB
                        Originally Posted by sylviad View Post

                        Ok. So here's an example.

                        Last week, I needed to change the teeny battery in my Motherboard. Time was of the essence and I knew there was an excellent chance there were Warriors who could help.

                        Had I put that request in the Off-Topic forum, I'd probably still be waiting for an answer - in part because people don't frequent that forum as often. My request would not have been seen as readily.

                        Here's the dilemma. Since fixing my computer is not specifically about making money, but has a direct impact on whether I make money, does that make it appropriate for the main discussion area or the Off-Topic section?

                        Sylvia
                        IMHO (for what it's worth), it was appropriate in this forum because it impacted your money-making abilities.
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                        • Profile picture of the author sylviad
                          Originally Posted by Shay60654 View Post

                          IMHO (for what it's worth), it was appropriate in this forum because it impacted your money-making abilities.
                          Yes. And I suppose it would impact other Warriors' ability to make money if they had the same problem. I think we got it solved, Shay.

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                          • Profile picture of the author sylviad
                            P.S.: Why am I the only one on this thread, besides Admin, who doesn't have an "infraction" icon when I post? Do I want one? Maybe not. What the heck is it for, anyway? :confused:

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                            • Profile picture of the author ShayB
                              Originally Posted by sylviad View Post

                              P.S.: Why am I the only one on this thread, besides Admin, who doesn't have an "infraction" icon when I post? Do I want one? Maybe not. What the heck is it for, anyway? :confused:

                              Sylvia
                              Unless you plan on giving yourself an infraction, you don't need one, right?

                              And Admin is He Who Must be Obeyed....so he doesn't have one.
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                              • Profile picture of the author sylviad
                                Originally Posted by Shay60654 View Post

                                Unless you plan on giving yourself an infraction, you don't need one, right?

                                And Admin is He Who Must be Obeyed....so he doesn't have one.
                                Wow! I feel empowered. "OBEY ME!" - see? I don't have an infraction icon.

                                I get it, I get it. It doesn't show up for me, but it shows up for everyone else. Why does that not make sense? If I'm not going to use it, what difference does it make if it is visible or not? Now I'm not sure if I feel left out or EMPOWERED!

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              • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
                Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post


                Sam Smith has a problem. It's not directly related to making money and
                he knows it belongs in OT but if he posts it there, he knows it's not going
                to be answered.

                This leaves him with only one recourse...to go elsewhere other than this
                forum.

                Steven,

                You've answered the question. It belongs in the OT forum.

                This isn't a support forum, it isn't a get out of sh*t free forum,
                it's a forum about making money.. not asking for handouts.

                If your hypothetical Sam needs help, he can post in the OT
                forum, he can PM a few of his buddies, he can post a WSO.

                When considering the suitability of a thread or post there's
                a great question that you can ask..

                Is this in the best interests of the Warrior Forum members?

                It seems to me that lately lots of people have been posting
                on the basis of.. "Is this in the best interest of ME?"

                Maybe we need a plugin like the "What Would Seth Godin Do?"
                plugin for Wordpress..

                "What Would Allen Says Do?"

                John
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            • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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              Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post

              Have you considered that starting threads that are not
              specifically about making money does nothing but
              clutter up the main forum?

              Those of us who are busy making money don't have the
              time to wade through all the philosophical, ranting, whining
              crap.

              If the forum wants to benefit from the solid, experienced
              contributors.. then make it easy for them by keeping the
              main forum on topic.

              John
              Well put John.
              Hit the nail right on the head.
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Bestel
    I'm probably guilty of posting one or two threads that border on philosophical but I always attempt to have an underlying motive of helping people make more money.

    But it's a point well made Allen and I'm listening.

    Peter
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
    Originally Posted by admin View Post

    Some of our members here seem to be confused as to what this forum section is about.

    It's about MONEY. Specifically MAKING Money....

    Before you post, ask yourself if your post wouldn't be better suited to a blog post. If it would be, then please do that. Either on a blog here or a blog on your own site.

    I think we've had enough of the rantings and philosophy to last us a while...


    I'm watching you boy!
    Would not a "How To" section be more useful?

    And quite popular?

    IHO, Best!
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    • Profile picture of the author Lance K
      Tell me again...what's this thread have to do with MAKING MONEY???



      Oh snap, I'm gonna get Monkey Slapped.

      j/k

      Anyway, I agree, Allen. And it needed to be said.

      And I was part of the problem recently with my new baby thread. I knew I probably shoulda put it in off topic but got excited and posted it in the Main Forum. I wouldn't be offended in the least if an admin wanted to move it to the Off Topic Forum. Sorry I didn't do it in the first place.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Rowe
    Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

    Les I'm not talking about somebody making a "great post". I'm talking
    about somebody saying "Hey guys, I have a serious problem here. Can you
    help me out?"

    So in other words, the hell with this person? Let him go get his problem
    solved at some other forum or by his mommy and daddy?

    If that's what this forum is about, I think it's sad.

    Steven, it seems like you are deliberately trying to be obtuse here.

    Allen's post said nothing about people asking for help. It mentioned ranting, and 'too many' posts that are mostly philosophical.

    You, trying to add more to what he said might prove to some people that you are keenly aware of the posts you put in the main discussion forum.

    Your previous thread was a perfect example.

    I only read it today after you opened another thread to complain about it. But after reading it, it was pretty clear to me that it offered nothing specific about making money, or marketing. And, that's what Allen said above.

    Your post was a philosophical post. It was YOUR personal philosophy on what it takes to run a successful business.

    Obviously there are members in this forum who get value from your posts. Allen wasn't saying that philosophical posts have no value. He simply asked members to take a minute to decide where their post better belongs - in the main discussion section, or in a blog.

    I'm no idiot either. Yet Allen's post was clear to me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by John Rowe View Post

      Steven, it seems like you are deliberately trying to be obtuse here.

      Allen's post said nothing about people asking for help. It mentioned ranting, and posts that are mostly philosophical.

      The fact that you're trying to add more to what he said might prove to some people that you are keenly aware of the type of posts you put in the main discussion forum.

      Your previous thread was a perfect example.

      I only read it today after you opened another thread to complain about it. But after reading it, it was pretty clear to me that it offered nothing specific about making money. And, that's what Allen said above.

      Your post was a philosophical post. It was YOUR personal philosophy on what it takes to run a successful business.

      Obviously there are members in this forum who get value from your posts. Allen wasn't saying that philosophical posts have no value. He simply asked members to take a minute to decide where their post better belongs - in the main discussion section, or in a blog.

      I'm no idiot either. Yet Allen's post was pretty clear to me.

      John, that's fair enough. So then as I said, it needs to be clearly spelled
      out how strict to the letter of the law posts have to be here.

      Your opinion is that philosophical posts have no place here but instead
      belong on a blog. Fine, that needs to be clarified as a rule. Otherwise,
      people aren't going to know.

      And I know you're smart, probably a hell of a lot smarter than I am, but
      still, I'm not dumb and I seem to be in violation of what constitutes a
      Main Discussion post quite often. When the mods were still here, almost
      all my posts were moved to Mind Warriors. I could never understand why
      as they were all focused on aspects of making money, but again, if
      philosophy doesn't belong here, then it simply needs to be said. Otherwise,
      others will make the same mistakes that I am making.
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  • Profile picture of the author DougBarger
    There's currently something along these lines in development with vbulletin which will basically allow the transfer of specified threads to be converted to blog posts using similar tech as vbulletin forum2blog according to some info there so it's not too far around the corner.

    Currently admins have to make up backup databases and then prune the importer files by deleting the converted vbulletin blog posts from the forum threads they want pruned.

    Hope this helps
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  • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
    Steven,

    You are ONE person, you seem to be the only one
    who seems to think that we need even more rules,
    guidelines and policy statements.

    Some of us have been here long enough to know that
    the more rules there are - the more people want to
    discuss them.

    If you knew Allen well enough you'd know his views on
    rules. (Hint: think minimalist)

    My personal opinion is that we don't need more rules, we
    simply need more common sense and people who show
    some respect for the forum as a community.

    Now, I'm going to have a wee dram of McClelland's and I'm
    going to bed.

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author John Rowe
    Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

    If philosophy doesn't belong here, then it simply needs to be said.
    Simply needs to be said? Are you sure that's all it will take?
    Allen said it here in this post, but it still doesn't seem to be enough.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by John Rowe View Post

      Simply needs to be said? Are you sure that's all it will take?
      Allen said it here in this post, but it still doesn't seem to be enough.
      Yes John, that's all it will take.

      You won't have a problem with me again. You have my word.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Rowe
    Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

    Yes John, that's all it will take.
    You won't have a problem with me again. You have my word.
    I didn't start this post, Allen did. Please don't put words in my mouth Steven.
    That's the only thing I'd have a problem with.
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  • Profile picture of the author richdirtygirl
    Originally Posted by admin View Post

    Some of our members here seem to be confused as to what this forum section is about.

    It's about MONEY. Specifically MAKING Money....

    Before you post, ask yourself if your post wouldn't be better suited to a blog post. If it would be, then please do that. Either on a blog here or a blog on your own site.

    I think we've had enough of the rantings and philosophy to last us a while...


    I'm watching you boy!
    Don't know honey... I like rants.

    Now, here it looks like there is something else... :rolleyes:

    I will leave you boys playing alone...

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    • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
      I spent about two hours last night reading through posts on the old forum. There's really not that big of a difference in types of posts between then and now...they're just about different things. And I saw a lot of rants from people in this very thread above that were proudly posted and praised right there in the main forum.
      Sorry, but it's the truth. I'm just sayin...

      I think the problem may lie in Allen's original post above.

      I see some people saying that he doesn't want rants and philosophy, while other say the posts in the main forum HAVE to be about making money.

      So, which is it? Is it both? I don't think it's absolutely clear and that's probably why this debate could be en route to a quickly deleted thread.

      If I start a thread about how I have discovered Google suddenly changed the way they rank article pages, then that would not be about making money, but most would agree that it belongs in the main forum.

      I think it's just common sense as to what can be there or not. If we find that we are receiving infractions, then we made the wrong decision. LOL Let's just use our heads instead of our hearts. This is business, nothing personal, right?

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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
        Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

        If I start a thread about how I have discovered Google suddenly changed the way they rank article pages, then that would not be about making money, but most would agree that it belongs in the main forum.
        Allen, my take is that the whole Warrior board (other than the OT forum) is about "making money" and your example quoted above certainly fits into the "making money within the context of internet marketing" category.

        Thus, IMO it would clearly be appropriate for the main forum.

        Some specific internet marketing strategies, such as Adsense and PIPS have been given their own forum, presumably to make it easier to access specific advice.

        Posts largely concerning "mindset", which often veer into philosophical territory, have their outlet in the Mind forum. I quote:

        "This forum is dedicated to discussion on all topics related to self-improvement. This most certainly fits into a money-making forum because power, energy and creativity translates into being able to make more money."

        The established contributors, with a large Warrior following, have a responsibility to use their posts in such a way as to encourage their readers to make better use of the full board facilities, including the recently added blog function.

        This would help give new members a wider and more diversified experience as well as clearing away much of the extraneous material currently clogging up the main forum.

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        • Profile picture of the author jcmentor
          Warriors...

          Whatever happened to "If you don't like the subject matter of a post, don't open it up and read it? " What am I missing here about freedom of choice?

          All the best,

          Jack

          P.S. Is this entire thread illegal and illicit here at the main forum because it is not directly about making money?
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      • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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        Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post



        If I start a thread about how I have discovered Google suddenly changed the way they rank article pages, then that would not be about making money, but most would agree that it belongs in the main forum.
        No, that would be more appropriate in the SEO forum.
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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          Les,
          No, that would be more appropriate in the SEO forum.
          And anything about copywriting or salesmanship "belongs" in the copywriting forum, even when it doesn't. And anything that involves mindset gets mindlessly moved to mindpower, even when it's completely inappropriate for that forum.

          Many of these posts are more useful for less experienced people, who wouldn't know to go there to look for them.

          The question of which forum is appropriate is very different from Allen's point in the original post in this thread.


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          • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
            Jack,
            P.S. Is this entire thread illegal and illicit here at the main forum because it is not directly about making money?
            Ummm... Putting aside the legitimacy and value of meta-discussions...

            Did you miss who posted that?


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            • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
              You know, I had a whole night to think about this subject.

              Ultimately, it's all moot.

              If somebody makes a post and enough of the members feel it is not
              appropriate to the forum it is in, they will (or at least should) report it
              and the post goes away.

              We're self moderated now, so it's up to us to get rid of what we feel isn't
              right for the forum.

              I'm not going to get into debates as to whether that is right or wrong, good
              or bad. It is what it is if you read one of the top stickies of this forum.

              So I'm not going to worry about this anymore.

              In the grand scheme of things...it is a pimple of the head of a flea.
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          • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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            Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

            Les,And anything about copywriting or salesmanship "belongs" in the copywriting forum, even when it doesn't. And anything that involves mindset gets mindlessly moved to mindpower, even when it's completely inappropriate for that forum.

            Many of these posts are more useful for less experienced people, who wouldn't know to go there to look for them.

            The question of which forum is appropriate is very different from Allen's point in the original post in this thread.


            Paul
            So what you're trying to say then Paul,
            is there is no use for all these other topical forum?

            I think anyone that's genuinely interested in a particular
            subject posts it in the correct forum.

            Those that are only interested in attention seeking
            post them on the main forum.
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            • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
              Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

              So what you're trying to say then Paul,
              is there is no use for all these other topical forum?

              I think anyone that's genuinely interested in a particular
              subject posts it in the correct forum.

              Those that are only interested in attention seeking
              post them on the main forum.
              Les,

              But people who DON'T know where to look may only know to look in here.. there are new members every single day that wouldn't know to hunt around the other specific forums...
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              • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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                Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

                Les,

                But people who DON'T know where to look may only know to look in here.. there are new members every single day that wouldn't know to hunt around the other specific forums...
                I agree Jay,
                But they are not the ones we're talking about.
                Nor are they the ones arguing about it either.
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                • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
                  Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

                  I agree Jay,
                  But they are not the ones we're talking about.
                  Nor are they the ones arguing about it either.
                  You're right.. but I think some people post their threads here for those new members.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Hi Allen,

    I'm glad you stepped up. To me it seems to be the same kind of thing I was saying in my post from 9/16...

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...here-else.html

    My point was focused more on the "doom and gloom" posts that were thinly disguised as bieng somehow related to making money.

    Enough of the BS, time to keep the main part of the forum, the main part of the forum.

    Thanks again,
    Michael Oksa

    EDIT: It just dawned on me that the post I referenced may be the exact kind of thing you're talking about. Now I'm really confused!
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    • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
      Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

      Hi Allen,

      I'm glad you stepped up. To me it seems to be the same kind of thing I was saying in my post from 9/16...

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...here-else.html

      My point was focused more on the "doom and gloom" posts that were thinly disguised as bieng somehow related to making money.

      Enough of the BS, time to keep the main part of the forum, the main part of the forum.

      Thanks again,
      Michael Oksa

      EDIT: It just dawned on me that the post I referenced may be the exact kind of thing you're talking about. Now I'm really confused!

      LOL, Michael. Don't you hate when that happens?!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author John Rowe
    Originally Posted by jcmentor View Post

    Is this entire thread illegal and illicit here at the main
    forum because it is not directly about making money?
    Why not ask the OP?
    And Jack, thank you for that laugh.
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  • Oh so thats why my blog is for!

    I get it now. Blogs are for posting personal feelings, ideas, and messages. That's genius! :p
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  • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
    Hi Y'all

    Thanks for the reminder allen..

    As for the non-money making related threads..

    For the old-timers...Please understand that a lot of newbies arrive here daily and since some of us are still messed up we kind of shoot where ever we think we will get replies..As we age in this forum I believe we will also mature to the point that we will play by the rules by heart, and through some straight replies we'll learn to respect others here also...Everything grows and improves..please understand...give us time..you could always move our post and/or give us reminders like these from time to time..

    For the newbies like me..Please (including myself) try to learn the rules in posting and don't post every thought and experience that we're having..I know it feels great to have people listen to us, to motivate us and help us through. This in itself is a treasure. It makes doing internet marketing worthwhile and most of all bearable, it's gives us a sense of community in this unknown territory..But we should also start to respect others here...Some of the people here have been doing internet marketing so long and successfully that they don't want to hear a lot of BS or whinning or tones of somebody needing a pat in the back assuring them that it will work our or something that sounds similar..

    I love this forum..I'm not ashamed to admit it..I LOVE IT HERE..

    Please understand that respect and proper behaviour grows with time..censor us if we commit mistakes..guide us to proper behaviour but also please give us time to adapt..I'm sure some of the old-timers here started just like us.
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