Spinning Vs. Not Spinning

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Do you think it's necessary to spin an article when sumitting it to multiple sites or not?

I know if I check them in copyscape, either way they show up.

I don't see the benefit of spinning them. If copyscape can see that it's not unique, I'm sure google set up to detect that they are not unique also.

I'd love to hear opinions.

Mine is I don't see the benefit of spinning them.
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  • Profile picture of the author freelikehell
    Its a very general question Bryan.
    You need to be specific as in "What are you doing with those spinned articles"

    In the statements following this one, I am assuming that you're using an excellent spinner such as contentboss or thebestspinner.

    Here's a small to-do and not-to-do list that'll help you decide.

    1) For submission to 'social media sites' (squidoo, hubpages) - Please write unique content for each hub/lens
    2) For submission to various article directories - If your focus is purely on linking back to your main website, then you can submit rewritten version to each directory (original article goes to EZA). If your focus is to get the articles get published and get traffic from SE's, then either submit the same article everywhere or submit an original aritcle to each directory.
    3) For submission to blog networks (AMA) - There's an inbuilt spinnner so you have no choice. But you can ensure that you write quality rewrite lines for generating spinned variations

    I'm sure I've missed a few more points, but excuse me now - its 2:10 AM here and I'm drowsy as hell
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  • Profile picture of the author blueclcl
    so it's no good putting spun articles on squidoo?

    What about blogger and wordpress?
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    Sure, you can use spun content. Lots of people do it, and while it adds to the crapfest on the Web, there's no denying that it is a fast way to get content out there to make more money. It depends on your goals.
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    • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
      If you spin articles make it good quality..and always remember google ain't stupid
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  • Profile picture of the author Nickolie0990
    For the love of God, do waste your time spinning articles. All the major article directory know about spinning and they all have installed special software to check for that. Plus, it is a volition of most of there TOS.

    Don't waste your time, just write better quailty articles.
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    • Profile picture of the author howinfo
      We do get lot of spinned articles to our directory but generally these have been spinned by software so they come out low quality and not easy to read. We do not approve them. Better option is to get them rewritten by professional but it is not that much cheaper than a new article, so you might as well get a new article then.
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  • Profile picture of the author UBotBuddy
    Regardless of the counter-information you read in here about Spinning it is an acceptable way of producing content. It does come down to this, if you put "Crap in" then you will get "Crap out".

    Approaching your text with the right mindset and testing the iterations of possible combinations you will eliminate a lot of problems. Test, test and re-test.

    So if you are methodical, careful and take your time and above all be patient then you should do well.

    It is not something you will churn out in 10-15 minutes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Blaze
    Yet another spinning thread filled with different opinions!

    So far the only person who has given some cold hard facts is freelikehell, however even with those web 2.0 sites you can submit spun content! I do it all the time and trust me it sticks like super glue to plastic!

    People always have their preference but i would honestly prefer to spend 30 minutes spinning 1 article and using it in 20+ other places manually (or even with software) and having that extra time available to go back and edit the web 2.0 sites manually with images and new layout and groups etc etc etc.

    Than if you spent 10 to 20 minutes per article to make them all 'unique' and then submitted them and then editted those web 2.0 sites and joined the groups etc etc then it's going to take you another 4 hours or so to complete everything!

    I prefer to save those 4 hours personally!

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  • Profile picture of the author Jenb
    For the time I put into spinning vs not, I really find no difference in the links for article submission. A fresh article seems to be more worthwhile. I now rewrite an article instead of spin for article directories.
    But I believe spinning is useful for content when I need to rewrite the same thing 10 times, I use the best spinner by J. Ledger to come up with new wording, but always make sure you change your first paragraph and make it as unique as possible before reusing it. This is what I use for my Web 2.0 properties, and it does save time.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Blaze
      Originally Posted by Jenb View Post

      For the time I put into spinning vs not, I really find no difference in the links for article submission. A fresh article seems to be more worthwhile. I now rewrite an article instead of spin for article directories.
      But I believe spinning is useful for content when I need to rewrite the same thing 10 times, I use the best spinner by J. Ledger to come up with new wording, but always make sure you change your first paragraph and make it as unique as possible before reusing it. This is what I use for my Web 2.0 properties, and it does save time.
      Thats a very good suggestion!

      Plus if you are targetting different keywords with each of your web 2.0 sites then re-writing the first paragraph will allow you to take a completely different angle (the angle of the new keyword) that will then be alot easier to encorporate in the next parts of your article and save alot of time by spinning them.

      Never thought of that thanks

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      • Profile picture of the author sannyboy
        I also use TheBestSpinner. Far superior to the trash ContentBoss churns out. Personally, I upload my article into the software and rewrite each sentence once, sometimes the first and last sentences twice. Then click the magic 'favourites' button (the personal one, not the garbage that comes out of the communal synonyms stash) and have the majority of the article spun within 15 minutes. Add a few extra spun words, and it's all ready for submission.

        Just my method, hope it helps someone!

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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    OMG!!! The responses on this thread are so funny that I think I seriously need to take a break.. Spun articles is the same as rewritting them, the only difference is spinning them saves you a great amount of time.

    Now this is if you use the proper tool and no I am not talking about none of those junk free article spinners or software you download. A real spinner is one that is fully human controlled. It has been proven time and time again that if you use the tool properly you can produce in 2 hours time 50 articles and all of them be 70%+ unique.

    You start with your "OWN" freshly written content (500 - 1200 words) and not some junk plr and you add your "OWN" alternatives with no pre-set database of words. You rewrite each paragraph 4 - 5 times... Doing this will give you perfectly readable articles each and every time. You do not have to edit after or even read after.

    To answer the OP

    You can submit spun content to anyplace and yes that even includes the precious little God like directory that everyone (but me) worships, EZA! This is assuming of course you are using the proper tool the proper way.

    Do you have to spin your articles ? No, it is optional and it is not something you have to do. There is no duplicate content penalty. Some of us do not spin the articles because of google. Some of us spin the content because we understand that there is 1,000 different ways to repurpose that content thus saving even more time when creating pdfs, videos, ebooks, short reports, create a hubpage, create a squidoo and etc...

    See now we are getting into the benefits of spinning articles and the many many uses for doing it properly. The above is just a small part of what you can do with articles once spun....

    Let's say you write your article and post it on your site and then take that same exact article and post it on 10 article directories. This is great but you may very well be missing out on great opportunities to generate additional opt-in's, customers, or followers.

    Now let's say you properly spin your article (not tweak it, but spin it to 70%+ uniqueness) and you post the original on your site and post 10 spun articles on 10 article directories.

    This is what you are going to get for working smart and taking the time to "properly" spin your article.

    1. You can use this spun content to repurpose into other formats as explained in the above post.

    2. Almost all article directories have author rss feeds, if you submit those feeds then all you are doing is putting out 10 rss feeds that have the same exact content. Who wants to subscribe to 10 exact same rss feeds ? If you spin the articles and each directory gets a different spun article then your author rss feeds are now 70%+ unique and thus will get more subscribers.

    3. If at such time the article directories or search engines do start kicking out articles that are posted on other sites then you entire business is screwed. If you spun them though, you have nothing to worry about because you worked smart and took care of the problem before a real problem existed.

    4. By properly spinning your articles you have the ability to target other keywords with the spun versions, everybody knows targeting just 1 keyword is not going to brng the bacon home. You must target several different keywords.

    There are other reasons but this could turn into an entire ebook if I was to explain it all...

    Oh and OP - ALWAYS POST YOUR ORIGINAL CONTENT ON YOUR SITE FIRST AND NOT EZA!

    James
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