Aweber....really??

14 years ago

Think of it this way...

If someone is sitting on a 500-person list and they can't make $20, then they need to rethink how they're building their list and how they're building relationships with their list. Cause something ain't right.

Just one $20 sale per MONTH and you break even. But most folks who're building responsive lists make a lot more than that.

And one other thing -- how much are folks on this forum paying per month for a cell phone? Or cable TV? And what kind of return on your investment are y'all getting for those monthly expenses?

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Tom B Banned 14 years ago

I normally wear a red shirt when working with aweber.

Well, most people start out in the red. It is called investment. To be able to automate a selling machine is well worth absorbing the $20 a month.

You can just get good at selling. Once you are making consistent sales you can start building your list.

You will be losing money by doing this... but it will save you that $20.
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downhomebruce

14 years ago

When you look at the alternatives out there, which are pretty pathetic in comparison to AWeber and are going to cost you a lot more than 20 bucks in terms of time lost (your time is worth a lot more than 20 bucks a month, I hope!), not to mention the technical snafus that can make managing a list a real nightmare with some of those dreaded others, then you see that 20 bucks is a drop in the bucket.

AWeber is hands down the Cadillac of autoresponders (and no, they didn't pay me to say that LOL). But you still do need to manage your list properly, as Becky points out.

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Check 14 years ago

I would make sure you really plan things out before signing up for the aweber service. That way you aren't wasting your subscription time trying to figure things out. The more planning and thinking you do about it the better use you will get out of your money and your list. So just signup when you know you are ready and I think it will end up being well worth it.
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Mike Anthony

14 years ago

Originally Posted by czilbersher

I mean, I'm lucky to have one $10 sale out of 250 visitors

Theres the issue right there. You are depending on visitors. Until you are ready to concentrate on building a list and not just having visitors then you aren't ready for aweber.

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Nickolie0990

14 years ago

Hey czilbersher, I can understand how you feel, however there are good FREE alternatives to Aweber. Here is the best one I can find. It is a free wordpress plug in called "Newsletter". What it dose is allows you to build a list, and send broadcasts to your list. Just like aweber, however the only down side is, you can't set up a follow sequence.

But you still can build a list, and build the relationship with the list via broadcast emails. Here is the link to download the plug-in:

WordPress › Newsletter WordPress Plugins

Best of all it is free, you can use that until you start to make more. Hope that helps.

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14 years ago

A visitor and a subscriber are two totally different things.
Especially a TARGETED subscriber.

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dylanloh

14 years ago

I've used Aweber since forever (ok not forever but since very long ago) so when they shifted plans to the newer version, I had the option of staying with my old price plan which is much cheaper (which is what I did). That said, like everyone else who quipped in here, making at least $20 from a 500-sized list isn't difficult, in fact it is quite rather easy after you figure it out.

And instead of thinking of making a 'sale' (one-dimensional thinking), you could promote pay per lead offers...or you could send them content, do webinars, create videos, record audio interviews, interview for them etc. The 'content' part might not reap you immediate financial rewards but it'll go a long way in making you more money in the long term.

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Flipfilter

14 years ago

Slightly off debate, but I've recently been swayed toward Mail Chimp...and I think I have App Love!!!!

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curt 14 years ago

I usually recommend MailChimp for my retail clients because it's free for the first 500 subscribers.

There's also some good information on their blog: MailChimp Email Marketing Blog about email marketing.

Others, like Aweber and iContact are easier to use, but MailChimp is okay once you get used to it.
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Andrew O 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Flipfilter

Slightly off debate, but I've recently been swayed toward Mail Chimp...and I think I have App Love!!!!

Be careful if you ever send a message that mentions internet marketing. You don't want to hear my horror stories about Mail Chimp.

You can be following all their terms, have a squeaky clean account, etc. and have your account permanently banned for mentioning the topic of making money, or marketing, or really whatever they decide. It's in their terms and they banned me for it.

Now, it's Aweber all the way.

Update: Sorry, I didn't notice that this had been mentioned in other replies as well. I guess it's a common problem!
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TheGraduate

14 years ago

Originally Posted by czilbersher

Personally I am in awe at everyone on this forum who's using Aweber and exclaiming its virtues. Not that it isn't awesome software; it is. But at $20/month for a list of up to 500 people, you folks are clearly doing something RIGHT to be able to absorb that monthly cost. I mean, I'm lucky to have one $10 sale out of 250 visitors, so I am clearly in the company of marketing geniuses. Until the time I can get better at this game, I'll just have to use one of those lesser-known autoresponders or else I'll be operating in the red. In the meantime, I'll read up on how you aWeber users are recouping your costs. Consider me in "learning mode."

While browsing the forum I heard of these two free good options to Aweber, one of them allows you 500 people for free.

1. Mailchimp.com
2. Madmimi.com

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David Merriman

14 years ago

Use Mailchimp to start out (it's free)

OR

As other people have been saying, get a more targeted, more trusting list.

Do you have a list of people who have already purchased / are invested in you?

That kind of list is MUCH more powerful than some big bloated list you have because you bribed people for their email.

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JayXtreme

14 years ago

You might wanna get an extra job offline to pay for your I.M. tools (autoresponder etc) until you start turning a profit.

Although, you really should be able to cover the costs of your autoresponder easily enough, no?

Also.. take a look at this AWeber alternative:

Plans & Pricing | Imnica Mail (<- no aff. link)

Richelo is a warrior, and his service is really making some waves.. at $5 less a month than AWeber... it's reducing your costs right away

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14 years ago

Dude, the newsletter plug-in is probably your best bet to start out, assuming you are using WP, but from your post, I get a sense that autoresponder cost might not be your main problem, maybe you need to rethink your entire IM business plan.

Originally Posted by czilbersher

Personally I am in awe at everyone on this forum who's using Aweber and exclaiming its virtues. Not that it isn't awesome software; it is. But at $20/month for a list of up to 500 people, you folks are clearly doing something RIGHT to be able to absorb that monthly cost. I mean, I'm lucky to have one $10 sale out of 250 visitors, so I am clearly in the company of marketing geniuses. Until the time I can get better at this game, I'll just have to use one of those lesser-known autoresponders or else I'll be operating in the red. In the meantime, I'll read up on how you aWeber users are recouping your costs. Consider me in "learning mode."

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Sheila Atwood

14 years ago

aWeber is the way to go. Make it go right to start out with aWeber, you will eventually end up there. If you import a list to aWeber you need to show that your subscribers requested to receive emails from you.

How Do I Import a List of Subscribers? :: AWeber Knowledge Base

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JayXtreme 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Sheila Atwood

aWeber is the way to go. Make it go right to start out with aWeber, you will eventually end up there.

You can't say that with any certainty...

There are other autoresponder services out there... I have accounts with all the major AR services, and some of the smaller ones.

Depending on my requirements, I use a different service for different things.

To say that one would end up at AWeber anyway is not true.

GetResponse, Imnica, CC, iContact....

To name but a few. Each has it's own benefits.

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BJ Min

14 years ago

does anyone know how much it costs after having 25,000+ list for aweber?

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JayXtreme

14 years ago

Originally Posted by BJ Min

does anyone know how much it costs after having 25,000+ list for aweber?

You have to negotiate the price with AWeber....

It's not a set fee for 25,000+... contact them to start a dialogue.

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JonathanBoettcher

14 years ago

Originally Posted by JayXtreme

You have to negotiate the price with AWeber....

It's not a set fee for 25,000+... contact them to start a dialogue.

Peace

Jay

Actually I just contacted them to *negotiate* and they pretty much told me "I'm sorry sir, but that's the pricing available in your package at the moment."

So I asked him if there were other packages available and he said "I'm sorry sir, that's the only package we have available at the moment."

Turns out I'd gone from the old pricing scheme ($20 per month, plus $10 per 10k subs) to the new one (approx $192/yr plus much more per X subs) when I upgraded to the analytics package. Not sure if the extra stats have really been worth it, considering.

So to answer a previous comment - Aweber's pricing for 25k and up is as follows:

(25k - 26k) $192 per year for analytics package etc, plus $200 per month.

Beyond 26,000 names you pay the same, but add $8 per 1000 names.

So if my math is correct, at 50k subscribers you'll be paying $192 / year plus $392 per month.

75k you'd be at $592 per month.

Now... all that said.. is there anyone here with a good sized list that is using MailChimp? They appear more competitive in this list size (25k to 50k is $240 monthly).

I know they have some very huge lists as customers, but I don't think I've seen too many IM'ers using them... (not that I've noticed anyhow).

Can anyone clarify that comment about not being able to do affiliate marketing with them? Is that referring to direct linking to an affiliate offer? What about a landing page on your own site first? Or a redirect...

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James Campbell

14 years ago

If you do ANY affiliate promotion.

Do Not Use Mailchimp.

There was a nice little thread about this yesterday, it will fill you in.

James

Originally Posted by JonathanBoettcher

Actually I just contacted them to *negotiate* and they pretty much told me "I'm sorry sir, but that's the pricing available in your package at the moment."

So I asked him if there were other packages available and he said "I'm sorry sir, that's the only package we have available at the moment."

Turns out I'd gone from the old pricing scheme ($20 per month, plus $10 per 10k subs) to the new one (approx $192/yr plus much more per X subs) when I upgraded to the analytics package. Not sure if the extra stats have really been worth it, considering.

So to answer a previous comment - Aweber's pricing for 25k and up is as follows:

(25k - 26k) $192 per year for analytics package etc, plus $200 per month.

Beyond 26,000 names you pay the same, but add $8 per 1000 names.

So if my math is correct, at 50k subscribers you'll be paying $192 / year plus $392 per month.

75k you'd be at $592 per month.

Now... all that said.. is there anyone here with a good sized list that is using MailChimp? They appear more competitive in this list size (25k to 50k is $240 monthly).

I know they have some very huge lists as customers, but I don't think I've seen too many IM'ers using them... (not that I've noticed anyhow).

Can anyone clarify that comment about not being able to do affiliate marketing with them? Is that referring to direct linking to an affiliate offer? What about a landing page on your own site first? Or a redirect...

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Robert Puddy

14 years ago

actually there are cheaper alternatives to aweber

get response
imnica

will give you the same deliverability and functionality and are lower priced than aweber

But dont go for a free option or one where you have to host it yourself, kiss of death to a list once you have to move it, and move it you will once its gets to a decent size

10 or 20 % deliverability loss doesnt seem much until you hit 10k then it starts to bite, when you list hits 50k then 10% loss can mean big revenue loss.

If you wait until that point to move your going to lose 60 to 70% of your list

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winebuddy

14 years ago

I used an el-cheapo service to start with and it turned out to be a big mistake. I switched to aweber and then began tweaking my follow-ups.

Amazingly, if you have targeted subscribers and you start a DIALOGUE and you give them FREE STUFF, then they will buy small stuff at first and then buy bigger stuff later if the small stuff is really good stuff.

Also, Aweber lets you track $/subscriber over time so that you know how much each new subscriber is worth. Makes it REALLY easy to track ROI - especially if you are using PPC.

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Paleochora

14 years ago

Sticking my neck right out there again but.....

Could it be that, on fora such as these, there are so many fans of Aweber for the same reason as there are for the overpriced Hostgator, namely both offer hugely generous affiliate commissions?

Not knocking them. I am sure they are super. It is just a thought, though....

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14 years ago

I wish I could get 25,000+ subscribers lol.

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ruch1v

14 years ago

profollow.com! private label of aweber, $20/month for upto 10,000 leads!

i wish i had an affiliate link, woulda made a killing on how much i recommend them

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jabnamedia

14 years ago

I knew that Aweber is where I wanted to end up when I had a larger list so I just bit the bullet and got started. The longer you wait to start the farther behind you get.

One of the things I did to help me get started was to go ahead and prepare the email series for my first list ahead of signing up. Then I was able to sign up for the $1 trial and have my first list ready to go in one day. I just had to copy and paste my emails into Aweber.

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jbode

14 years ago

My best advice choose 1 good autoresponder and stick with it... I have 4 right now and it's an extra hassle when I want to send emails to people on all 4 autoresponders - just pick a good one and stick with it!

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14 years ago

$20 is nothing for business online

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Amanda_Davis

14 years ago

I agree with ruch1v

I haven't used Profollow specifically, but it's an older version of AWeber that is MUCH cheaper if you have a medium to large sized list.

It's the same deliverability, but it doesn't have the same analytics.

I use Infusionsoft for all my stuff - but that's quite pricey to start.

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azamuki

14 years ago

I tried a different auto responder then aweber and couldn't stop my self from unsubscribing and going back to aweber. With them you get what you pay for.

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kittyd

14 years ago

i also have thousands (ok, maybe tens...) of reasons not use Aweber...

i`m also a noob..., so i might be wrong... BUt what is the wrong part about having an autoresponder sript running on your own server, as script that u pay once and use forever, as many times as you wish, with exportable mySQL databases and so...

i`m troubled by the fact that no one is using such a script (i know they are, standalone, plugins, componets, modules, for everything...) and everybody goes for this online things that once are dependent on, and once you stop paying all work is lost.

what am i missing?

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alextsui

14 years ago

Originally Posted by kittyd

i`m also a noob..., so i might be wrong... BUt what is the wrong part about having an autoresponder sript running on your own server, as script that u pay once and use forever, as many times as you wish, with exportable mySQL databases and so...

Hi,

The main reason most people are using Aweber for maintaining their email lists is Deliverability and Reliability.

You can run scripts off your hosting server to do the job but you run into the risk that your hosting company may restrict you from sending mails when your list grows extremely big.

Of course for the time being you can start off with free options or cheap alternatives. You can use almost anything when your list is small. However, as someone has pointed out, it's almost impossible to move your list to Aweber later (when you grow big) without losing a big chunk of your subscribers. This is because when you import members into Aweber, everyone has to re-confirm.

Therefore, why not start off by using a trusted and proven service for your business (and IM should be treated as a business) rather than skimping on costs and regretting further on down the road?

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iw433

14 years ago

I go with Profollow.com. Private label Aweber $20.00 a month unlimited subscribers (10,000).

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Nick Brighton

14 years ago

Personally, I aim for about $1 per subscriber value. So, for a thousand subs on my list, that's $1k per month in sales.

If you know what you're doing, that's very realistic.

And Aweber is probably one of the smallest investments profitable marketers make. There's tons of services we pay for and use each month - from tracking, ad costs, outsourcing...the list is endless.

But IMO, you need that list to get traction. So yes, Aweber is one investment you really should stomach when starting out (or in fact, any autoresponder, as long as you can export your leads later on!)

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franamico

14 years ago

I just opened an account with aWeber and I am impressed by its service.
It's easy to use, with tons of customizable opt-in graphics and sophisticated stats tools.
I can't believe that to day I created 5 follow up emails in less than 30 mins

I am willing to pay the money for such a great service...

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by czilbersher

Personally I am in awe at everyone on this forum who's using Aweber and exclaiming its virtues. Not that it isn't awesome software; it is. But at $20/month for a list of up to 500 people, you folks are clearly doing something RIGHT to be able to absorb that monthly cost. I mean, I'm lucky to have one $10 sale out of 250 visitors, so I am clearly in the company of marketing geniuses. Until the time I can get better at this game, I'll just have to use one of those lesser-known autoresponders or else I'll be operating in the red. In the meantime, I'll read up on how you aWeber users are recouping your costs. Consider me in "learning mode."

I totally feel you about being reluctant to operate in the red; sound business principle.

To stay on topic of your post, though.. you can easily operate within your own preferred parameters by following a good break even flow until you move into profitability...

GetResponse - has a free option you can start out with and has many of the, (if not more -- GetReponse has an API and aWeber doesn't), functions of aWeber; so you're not sacrificing functionality for price. That's part of the problem with some of the lesser priced services; you wind up sacrificing value for a cheaper price.

GetResponse is also well positioned to scale with your business; as they're one of aWeber's biggest direct competitors.

Like I mentioned above; (and one of the reasons I don't use aWeber); GetResponse has an API, (Application Programming Interface). An API allows you to scale even further than the core features of a service by allowing you to extend and customize those features to your business operations through programming on your back-end. One way that your business will never "out-grow" such an integral part of your business.

Nothing like having to switch gears at the point of explosive growth. I shutter at the thought.

edit
oops... forgot to add that the owner, Simon Grabowski, is a fellow Warrior.

Anyway... HTH
PLP,
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richgrad

14 years ago

$20/month is dirt cheap when you zoom out and look at things as a whole, business wise. Aweber solves your problem of deliverability (one of the best in the industry), their customer service is awesome... they provide regular advice on their blog on how to better use their services... They are reputable... your customers/prospects who know anything about email marketing would know that you're going with a solid company... and trust level instantly goes up.

It would cost you more if you're using a free alternative that doesn't get your emails to where they are supposed to go (inbox instead of spam folder), little or no support and a headache when you want to transfer your leads to a paid service later on.

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stevecane

14 years ago

I'm with everyone who thinks AWeber is a great autoresponder. Much easier than other providers I've used and at $20 per month not very expensive. I'd be interested in anyones experience with a cheaper provider....

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Robert Puddy

actually there are cheaper alternatives to aweber

get response
imnica

will give you the same deliverability and functionality and are lower priced than aweber

Robert, I don't think you've seen Get Responses prices lately. They're about the same as Aweber.

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jaiganeshv

14 years ago

Aweber certainly stands out of teh crowd.. i heard there are lots of unearthed features in aweber and they are adding more and more these days. it will surely take a lot of time for other companies to catch up AW where it is now.

one such amazing feature i got to know is, in aweber, you can analyse your campaign and can list of the leads that has not opened your comunication and can resend to them alone with changing subject and content.

isn't this amazing?

thank you.

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Martin Avis

14 years ago

AWeber is an excellent service. But just because it has all those bells and whistles doesn't mean you have to use them.

Most people who run a newsletter/ezine need just three things from an AR service:

1. Deliverability
2. Ease of use
3. The ability to send a broadcast

If your business model, like mine, is to send out a text based newsletter a couple of times a week, you don't need any more than those three things. And there are many ARs out there that cost far less than AWeber who can deliver them.

I'm not getting into a 'my AP is better than your AR' discussion.

All I will say is that if your needs are not complex, then AWeber may be overpriced overkill.

Free services usually have many drawbacks, so I'd recommend you avoid them. But for paid services, shop around.

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Randy Smith

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Martin.Avis

AWeber is an excellent service. But just because it has all those bells and whistles doesn't mean you have to use them.

Most people who run a newsletter/ezine need just three things from an AR service:

1. Deliverability
2. Ease of use
3. The ability to send a broadcast

If your business model, like mine, is to send out a text based newsletter a couple of times a week, you don't need any more than those three things. And there are many ARs out there that cost far less than AWeber who can deliver them.

I'm not getting into a 'my AP is better than your AR' discussion.

All I will say is that if your needs are not complex, then AWeber may be overpriced overkill.

Free services usually have many drawbacks, so I'd recommend you avoid them. But for paid services, shop around.

Martin

Well said Martin

Personally I believe most people go with Aweber JUST BECAUSE most people on here go with Aweber...lol

Being in the AR industry, I've seen plenty of good AR's at a lot better pricing, as well as plenty not so good ones who don't look at though they know what's involved in setting up a good service...

But the main point being that too many people just follow the leader without doing their own research into the alternatives

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Steve Peters Benn

14 years ago

Most of the autoresponder services are VERY similar in price and package levels. I'm with Aweber, and you don't want to see my monthly bills. Scary, but turns me a profit...

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Marian 14 years ago

What I love about Aweber is that they care about the service and people that use it. They add more features all the time and they're reliable as well. Great service.

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Rik Fox 14 years ago

Yes aweber is a very good service.

But if you have a big list and are not making money then it can be expensive, that said if you have a big list then you SHOULD be making money.

For those of you who can't afford or don't want to pay a subscription service, then look at a self hosted solution such as then one I'm promoting in the WSO

http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ment-67-a.html

All the best...

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Cash37

14 years ago

Never liked Aweber's pricing structure either.. Im looking at ProFollow now thanks to this thread.

ListWire is free as well but I dont really know much about it

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raffebahanudin

14 years ago

E-mail list would most likely result in higher sales for the new beginning .. but better keep in touch with your e-mail list ..

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Arun Pal Singh

14 years ago

Nice Thread. With price increase by GetResponse, I was thinking of switching to Aweber.

I am motivated enough now.

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Nick Godwin

14 years ago

I completely agree with most on here. Aweber is a fantastic piece of software and well worth the investment. The key thing is the way you use it. If you aren't building a relationship with your list then it is unlikely that you will ever see a profit in your business and so it will remain little more than a hobby.

As many have said before, if you're serious about your business, investment should be expected. We all started out in the red, but with good relationship building, you should soon see a significant return for your small investment.

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MichaelHiles

14 years ago

Aweber seems to be having major issues with Gmail these days.

Best deliverability in the business? not so much

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JayXtreme 14 years ago

Originally Posted by MichaelHiles

Aweber seems to be having major issues with Gmail these days.

Best deliverability in the business? not so much

This problem is isolated and not completely across all of GMail...

I don't know exactly the criteria, but not all GMail accounts are having trouble receiving mail from AWeber lists.
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JonathanBoettcher

14 years ago

Earlier I was going off on Aweber's pricing for 25k+ accounts, however for the record I think they are terrific (just not sure if they're the most economical option at that list size).

Customer service has always been fast and responsive (apart from negotiating a better deal) and their service has always done what I expected it to. It's easy to use, well structured, and DEPENDABLE.

IMO, definitely an excellent platform to start and grow your business.

$20 is nothing in comparison to the value returned...

Even now, I'm paying far more than $20, but I can tell you my list is THE most valuable asset in my business. It literally is 'my personal ATM machine' - I know the phrase is overused and I thought it wasn't true... until I sat down, built a list, and put it to the test.

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Nisip

Banned 14 years ago

I don't get it... what is so awesome about AWeber that it is worth it to pay 828 dollars per year (MORE THAN EIGHT HUNDRED US DOLLARS) for just a small list of 5500 subscribers like I have ?

Because it is 19$ per month plus 50$ per month because I have 5500 subscribers.

828 DOLLARS just for the autoresponder... and I have lots of other costs of course !

How can you convince me that it is worth it spending 828 DOLLARS only for aweber???

Why???

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markament

14 years ago

I use a great little PHP autoresponder called Ad Track Responder Pro. It's a one time investment and works just as well as the services. Plus you can have unlimited subscribers.

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Dennis Gaskill

14 years ago

I became curious about ProFollow because of some of the comments in this thread so I visited the web site. Much to my surprise, it seems to be the exact same service and pricing as two other autoresponders, Automate Your List and PremumAR. Even the websites look exactly the same. I guess they must all be white-labeled Aweber services? Have a look:

ProFollow
PremiumAR
AutomateYourList

I wonder how many of these "clones" there are. Maybe I should start my own clone so someone else can pay for my AR.

Anyone know anything about that?

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Chris Worner 14 years ago

Profollow appears to be owned by Jeff Walker's "Internet Alchemy" company.
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Online Bliss

14 years ago

i also have thousands (ok, maybe tens...) of reasons not use Aweber...

i`m also a noob..., so i might be wrong... BUt what is the wrong part about having an autoresponder sript running on your own server, as script that u pay once and use forever, as many times as you wish, with exportable mySQL databases and so...

i`m troubled by the fact that no one is using such a script (i know they are, standalone, plugins, componets, modules, for everything...) and everybody goes for this online things that once are dependent on, and once you stop paying all work is lost.

what am i missing?

I started out with AutoResponse Plus on my server,
and still use it for some lists.
However there are many things Aweber can do that
my old autoresponder cannot. Aweber keeps improving their product.
I also find that many scripts and plug-ins are designed only for Aweber.

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imdreamsfly

14 years ago

I agree, 20 bucks is nothing to be in touch with your list of possible customers. Sometimes it takes a bit of time to gain trust with them. What about adding some value first like information that they can use, before offering them one of your affiliate products.
There is one guy I know that emails his list twice a day. In the morning, he tells a joke or a personal antidote. In the evening, he sends an offer. He's done a lot of research on what works. You have to be in constant contact so you aren't forgotten. And to give them something to look forward to so they open your email The main thing is to get it open, then you'll have an audience. His name is Daegan Smith. Expert at Network Marketing and building a list. Trust this helps.

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Ishan Soni

14 years ago

A list of 500 people is equal to a list of 5,000 people for some people.

It's not the size. It's the responsiveness of the people on your list.

If you can't make atleast $1 per subscriber per month, then you're doing something horribly wrong.

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cypherslock

14 years ago

Another vote for Imnica Mail. At 15$ for 10k subscribers and the ability to import its a no brainer for me. And they just massively upgraded the services on all areas as well. And they're RESPONSIVE.

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tribros

14 years ago

The pricing for "Aweber" is really crazy and it could eat out all of your hard earned money. Unless you have a very highly targeted and responsive list you will surely have a hard time getting your ROI. Luckily I was on their old pricing and I have two accounts. One double optin and another single optin.

Ohh, by the way I've found a service with everything unlimited and I've started a new thread at:
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ternative.html

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