Question Regarding SEO

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Lets say you did your Keyword Research and you want to rank for "Search Terms" because it gets over 1000 visitors a day.

My question regarding this is, will you also rank automatically for "Search Term" that gets 500 visitors a day? (without the S on the end).

Thnx!

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  • Profile picture of the author gravtex
    Not necessarily. You certainly can but it's not guaranteed.

    Go try it for yourself. Google "guinea pig" and then Google "guinea pigs"

    The first result is the same but the rest of them get shuffled around.

    Gary
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    • Profile picture of the author Aaron.Scott
      Google handles the keywords as separate keywords. If you build your site around both keywords that you have a good chance of ranking for both.

      This also depends on the popularity of the keyword. If they keyword is low competition on both the plural and singular that you probably would rank for both by default.

      Hope this helps...
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    • Profile picture of the author DogScout
      Originally Posted by gravtex View Post

      Not necessarily. You certainly can but it's not guaranteed.

      Go try it for yourself. Google "guinea pig" and then Google "guinea pigs"

      The first result is the same but the rest of them get shuffled around.

      Gary
      People using the singular have just bought one or are within a short time of buying one. It is usually for a kid and the question they want to know most is how long one lives and what they can do to make it live to it's potential to prevent 12 yr old Sadie from a traumatic time.
      those that use the plural have no intention of ever buying one and most are high school or college kids doing a term paper on them.

      every niche is different though so in some cases, yes, you will rank for both. The real killer is if you are using the singular in adwords, be sure to put the plural in negative keywords or you just end up paying for nothing and doubling your bounce rate.
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      • Profile picture of the author zoobie
        Originally Posted by DogScout View Post

        People using the singular have just bought one or are within a short time of buying one. It is usually for a kid and the question they want to know most is how long one lives and what they can do to make it live to it's potential to prevent 12 yr old Sadie from a traumatic time.
        those that use the plural have no intention of ever buying one and most are high school or college kids doing a term paper on them.

        every niche is different though so in some cases, yes, you will rank for both. The real killer is if you are using the singular in adwords, be sure to put the plural in negative keywords or you just end up paying for nothing and doubling your bounce rate.
        Good info Dog, I never think of that
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      • Profile picture of the author tomsmart80
        Try the GOOGLE Myth Buster QUIZ

        Scroll to see answers:


        Questions

        Q1: Does Google uses latent semantic indexing?
        A:YES
        B: NO

        Q2:What does google use to rank sites for keywords
        A: A highly complex mathematical algorithm based on semantic indexing
        B: Human based authoritative linking analysis
        C: google just uses google to do it

        Q3: Can SEO companies really guarantee me no 1 page listing

        A: Yes knowledgeable SEO really know their stuff and guarantee your no 1 slot
        B:No there is no such guarantee

        Q4: Is there a Simple formula to improve my ranking
        A: No if there was everyone would be doing it
        B: Yes some clever chaps know their stuff

        So how did you do?

        Q1: Answer is NO if it did searching for car and cars would return the same results

        Q2:Only google knows what google does but we do know it is a combination of both A and B

        Q3: Correct answer is B google can and does changes its ranking alogorithm daily therefore no one can guarantee your position ever

        Q4: you will be glad you carried on reading because the answer to this question is B

        There are two highly critical areas on any website that will determine ultimate ranking
        1:Your Title tag MUST CONTAIN your target keyword/s
        2:The site with the most links from the most authoritative sites
        will rank the highest for those keywords and the links must contain the KEYWORDS you are targeting.
        So to rank number 1 follow those two simple rules.
        Build a site with thousands of pages more than your nearest rival and you are pretty much going to cream it.
        However if you can build backlinks on high authority sites that will eventually outrank any other site
        I.E The more backlinks you have on the most authoritative sites = highest ranking in google


        If you would like me to do that for you pm me
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  • Profile picture of the author ecdavis
    And, as well, you can also end up ranking unpredictably for keywords you may not even have intended due to overall context of your content. So, to quote Gravtex, "You certainly can but it's not guaranteed." However, there are things you can do with respect to how you tweak your content and meta tags to help Google to rank a page for more than one keyword, not to mention how you play with anchor text from backlinks. Basically, I guess I'm just paraphrasing what Aaronn and gravtex are saying. Go for it . . . . the whole lexical/semantic/linguistic game we can play with search and search engines is pretty cool.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sara Young
    Not necessarily, and the reason for that is - that people looking for 'search term' are often looking for something different than people looking for 'search terms'. Google wants to give each what they think are the most relevant results.
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  • Profile picture of the author affilorama-portal
    Ranking for "search terms" and "search term" will also depend on factors such as the quality of the content on your web page, the quality of backlinks to your web page, and how relevant your content is to "search terms" and "search term", among other things.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    Tom Smart Said:
    Q1: Does Google uses latent semantic indexing?
    A:YES
    B: NO

    Q1: Answer is NO if it did searching for car and cars would return the same results

    Thanks for the quiz Tom--that was fun.

    I am, however, of the school that believes that Google does make very strong use of LSI or whatever one would call it. (I am respectfully disagreeing because there are many, probably most people, who would agree with you.)

    But there are many, many pages out there (without a ton of back-links) that rank very high for search terms which appear nowhere on the page at all. They do, however, contain content which incorporates words and phrases closely correlated to that search term.

    I am often amazed at sites incorporating AdSense ads insofar as how well most of the ads correlate to the content of the page. Again, going just by the title, the tags, and the keyword density does not always give a clear picture of what the site is all about. Some manner of LSI, however, would allow Google to more closely determine the theme of the page and place appropriate ads there.

    I'm only posting a reply because LSI factors are important to me in what I do. I don't want you to think I'm attacking you or your position on this--I'm certainly not. I respect your position. I'm just giving an alternative take on the thing for what it's worth.

    Good quiz! --Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author supersonic
    I think both keywords will show the different results. I will go for both. But, you should not forget the long tail keywords too.
    Like "Cure acne" or "Cure acnes" are the keywords that are difficult to compete. But you can compete "Cure acnes in 30 days" keyword more easily. Hope it helps!
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