Had a Website Made... I'm getting screwed, need advice!

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EDIT: website is nearing completion... Thank you all for your help I greatly appreciate it. I will post here again if I have more problems and will update if anything else goes wrong.
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  • Profile picture of the author robrave
    I feel your pain. It was really frustrating when things didn't turn out the way you expected it.

    You're too generous and trusting to pay up 80% too early. If it were me, I can't even pay 50% without seeing the working finished product.

    I'm a programmer too so I know how difficult it is to create a custom website like that. But whatever it takes if the project cannot be finish on time, it is a must that you keep your communication always.

    By the way, how is the project going? You should get all the information and status always. What is wrong and what is not yet working? Why does it take too much time?

    -Rentacoder is still the best place to get programming job. You just have to select the right people.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andrew Prince
      Originally Posted by robrave View Post

      I feel your pain. It was really frustrating when things didn't turn out the way you expected it.

      You're too generous and trusting to pay up 80% too early. If it were me, I can't even pay 50% without seeing the working finished product.

      I'm a programmer too so I know how difficult it is to create a custom website like that. But whatever it takes if the project cannot be finish on time, it is a must that you keep your communication always.

      By the way, how is the project going? You should get all the information and status always. What is wrong and what is not yet working? Why does it take too much time?

      -Rentacoder is still the best place to get programming job. You just have to select the right people.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hanz
      I can't answer your question directly but rather, give advice to people in general who are looking to outsource. I've been through this same mess with somebody whom I paid a lot of money to for SEO for one of my sites last summer and he did absolutely nothing. All the time during our Skype chats, he'd say "Yes...Sure...No problem!" to everything I asked but really he had no intention of doing anything other than stealing my money and giving me the go-around. He'd completely disappear for weeks at times and claimed he actually had a team of people working on my SEO which was another bold-faced lie.
      When I finally did a thorough background check on him on DP(should've done this before hiring him), I saw that he was a complete scammer. He was basically chased off from there after scamming everybody and now has made Warrior his new home. LOL! Even now, I pm him daily and ask for reports on the work being done and he pulls the same old rubbish "Yeah, coming up...I got several reports ready for you...." And then he disappears again for weeks.
      Anyway, my advice to you and everybody on here is to beware of people and to do a full background check before you consider hiring them and to hire locally if you can. Don't ever go against your better-judgment. You yourself may be a trusting and honest guy but the other guy isn't. Trust and honesty is hard to come by in these parts. The world is run on lies and deceit. People will stomp on you for a quick buck if they can.
      Do a Google check for their real name or forum-handle to make sure they're legitimate. Do a thorough check up on their posting history and visit every thread they posted on and read in detail all the comments and reviews left by other people who've dealt with this person.
      Only you can protect yourself from being cheated because nobody else will.
      I hope you get your work completed. Good luck to you.
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      • Profile picture of the author Andrew Prince
        Originally Posted by Hanz View Post

        I can't answer your question directly but rather, give advice to people in general who are looking to outsource. I've been through this same mess with somebody whom I paid a lot of money to for SEO for one of my sites last summer and he did absolutely nothing. All the time during our Skype chats, he'd say "Yes...Sure...No problem!" to everything I asked but really he had no intention of doing anything other than stealing my money and giving me the go-around. He'd completely disappear for weeks at times and claimed he actually had a team of people working on my SEO which was another bold-faced lie.
        When I finally did a thorough background check on him on DP(should've done this before hiring him), I saw that he was a complete scammer. He was basically chased off from there after scamming everybody and now has made Warrior his new home. LOL! Even now, I pm him daily and ask for reports on the work being done and he pulls the same old rubbish "Yeah, coming up...I got several reports ready for you...." And then he disappears again for weeks.
        Anyway, my advice to you and everybody on here is to beware of people and to do a full background check before you consider hiring them and to hire locally if you can. Don't ever go against your better-judgment. You yourself may be a trusting and honest guy but the other guy isn't. Trust and honesty is hard to come by in these parts. The world is run on lies and deceit. People will stomp on you for a quick buck if they can.
        Do a Google check for their real name or forum-handle to make sure they're legitimate. Do a thorough check up on their posting history and visit every thread they posted on and read in detail all the comments and reviews left by other people who've dealt with this person.
        Only you can protect yourself from being cheated because nobody else will.
        I hope you get your work completed. Good luck to you.
        Thanks for the good advice... how can I do decent background check and really know if they are using their real name? The thing is they were on RAC and had like 70 awesome reviews and were rated higher than 99.7 percent of everyone on there so I didn't feel too worried.
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        • Profile picture of the author Hanz
          Originally Posted by Drew1204 View Post

          Thanks for the good advice... how can I do decent background check and really know if they are using their real name? The thing is they were on RAC and had like 70 awesome reviews and were rated higher than 99.7 percent of everyone on there so I didn't feel too worried.
          I've never used RAC so not sure how you can do a background check on this guy other than to go by the reviews left by previous customers. Throw up his name on Google and see what comes up I guess.
          Regardless, if he doesn't deliver on your work, you'll likely be the first person to give him a negative which will not only damage his clean reputation but will be a forewarning to future potential customers who'll think twice before dealing with this guy.
          Do you have this guy's phone number or something?
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          • Profile picture of the author Andrew Prince
            Originally Posted by Hanz View Post

            I've never used RAC so not sure how you can do a background check on this guy other than to go by the reviews left by previous customers. Throw up his name on Google and see what comes up I guess.
            Regardless, if he doesn't deliver on your work, you'll likely be the first person to give him a negative which will not only damage his clean reputation but will be a forewarning to future potential customers who'll think twice before dealing with this guy.
            Do you have this guy's phone number or something?
            No I don't have his phone number... I don't want to leave a negative review yet because he is so close and the work he has done is pretty good but it has just taken far too long.. FML
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            • Profile picture of the author Hanz
              Originally Posted by Drew1204 View Post

              No I don't have his phone number... I don't want to leave a negative review yet because he is so close and the work he has done is pretty good but it has just taken far too long.. FML
              He has to answer your question of why it's taking so long. You're the boss here and what you say goes. You're paying him for a job. He better have a damn good excuse as to why he did not return your emails and why the job took much longer than expected.
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            • Profile picture of the author cma01
              It could always be that the project is taking more work than he thought it would. Why not just ask what the deal is and the new projected completion date?

              Just a FYI, I don't start on projects without a deposit. The whole "I'll pay you when you finish" is B.S. The majority of the time projects on sites like that get done for a fraction of what a developer in your local area would charge.

              You want cheap, so you go to Odesk and RAC. If there are hiccups and the communication isn't always the best . . . those are the trade-offs.

              And he is working on your server . . . so you have the site in it's current condition? It's not like you're sitting there with nothing.

              If he has a good rating on RAC, I'm sure he's not going to want to jeopardize it or risk a dispute.
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  • Profile picture of the author KrisMainieri
    Hi Drew,

    Most of the people on RAC are hard working and credible. I read your post and I can feel your pain that this has not been a good experience. Unfortunately this is what happens in any industry when we pay for work in advance. I think there is a lesson to learn here so that this never happens to you again. We have all been there at some point with something similar.

    It does however sound like they are almost done. I would be more firm and demand that they finish the work. Seek to understand the delay ? Ask clarifying questions. Give them a deadline.

    Good luck with everything,

    Kris
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    Never pay alot of money upfront to an outsourcer.
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    Almost done
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Do you have what is done so far in your possession? If so, I'd give him a deadline and tell him to quit stalling. I'd tell him if it isn't done by then you'll give him a bad review, file a dispute, and seek legal action.

    He's obviously stringing you along because he has most of the money and finishing the job to get the rest isn't that important to him. He needs your foot in his arse to motivate him!
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    • Profile picture of the author Andrew Prince
      Originally Posted by Hanz View Post

      He has to answer your question of why it's taking so long. You're the boss here and what you say goes. You're paying him for a job. He better have a damn good excuse as to why he did not return your emails and why the job took much longer than expected.
      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      Do you have what is done so far in your possession? If so, I'd give him a deadline and tell him to quit stalling. I'd tell him if it isn't done by then you'll give him a bad review, file a dispute, and seek legal action.

      He's obviously stringing you along because he has most of the money and finishing the job to get the rest isn't that important to him. He needs your foot in his arse to motivate him!
      How do I get what is done so far? You mean the files etc? Would I need to ask him for them?
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by Drew1204 View Post

        How do I get what is done so far? You mean the files etc? Would I need to ask him for them?
        Did he put them online to show you? If they're online you can download everything to your computer.

        If not, how do you know even 80% is done?
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        • Profile picture of the author Andrew Prince
          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          Did he put them online to show you? If they're online you can download everything to your computer.

          If not, how do you know even 80% is done?
          It's all online
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          • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
            Originally Posted by Drew1204 View Post

            It's all online
            Then you can download all the files to your computer. Then you'll have it. Then you can get tough with him. And you can hire someone else to finish if he doesn't.

            What is left to do? Where is it?
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            • Profile picture of the author Andrew Prince
              Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

              Then you can download all the files to your computer. Then you'll have it. Then you can get tough with him. And you can hire someone else to finish if he doesn't.

              What is left to do? Where is it?
              Thanks for the great info! How do I download the site though haha? Such a good idea.

              I don't want to create a back link to the site now incase he looks or whatever but he is on this site but... any way the site is f dat guy . com no spaces
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              • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
                Originally Posted by Drew1204 View Post

                Thanks for the great info! How do I download the site though haha? Such a good idea.

                I don't want to create a back link to the site now incase he looks or whatever but he is on this site but... any way the site is f dat guy . com no spaces
                Wait a minute, is that your domain? The files are on your domain?
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  • Profile picture of the author LB
    Is the site on your server or on the coder's server somewhere?
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    • Profile picture of the author Andrew Prince
      Originally Posted by LB View Post

      Is the site on your server or on the coder's server somewhere?
      Well I have a host from host gator and then I just gave him the user name and pass for my host gator so he could upload files and stuff... So I guess his server some where? Sorry I hate sounding like I don't know what I am talking about but I really appreciate all of your help with this! $1500 is a lot of money

      I don't honestly know where the files are... are they some where on the cpanel of hostgator?
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    If you gave him your user name and password for your hostgator account and that's where the files are, then the files are on your webhost's server, so you have them. You could use the control panel to create a backup and download it to your computer, or you could FTP into your hosting account and download all the files that way.

    Then you can change your password, which will lock him out, and hire someone else to finish it for you. What's left to do, anyway?

    Edit: Or once you have backed up the files you could put some pressure on him to finish it up. If he's an ass and deletes your site, you have the backups so you can put it back online.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andrew Prince
      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      If you gave him your user name and password for your hostgator account and that's where the files are, then the files are on your webhost's server, so you have them. You could use the control panel to create a backup and download it to your computer, or you could FTP into your hosting account and download all the files that way.

      Then you can change your password, which will lock him out, and hire someone else to finish it for you. What's left to do, anyway?
      I need an admin section so I can go ahead and change things myself and control users, posts, emails, ads on the site, categories etc. Basically just so I can actually run the site...
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by Drew1204 View Post

        I need an admin section so I can go ahead and change things myself and control users, posts, emails, ads on the site, categories etc. Basically just so I can actually run the site...
        I don't mean to insult you, but you don't seem to know much about websites because you didn't realize you already have the files, so how do you know there isn't an admin section?

        If it was some HTML or CSS that needed finishing I was going to offer to help you, but programming isn't my thing.
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        • Profile picture of the author Andrew Prince
          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          I don't mean to insult you, but you don't seem to know much about websites because you didn't realize you already have the files, so how do you know there isn't an admin section?

          If it was some HTML or CSS that needed finishing I was going to offer to help you, but programming isn't my thing.
          No worries, I'm still learning but I'm only 19 and with time I will know more I am okay with making simple wordpress sites and I greatly appreciate your help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Prince
    Thanks so much for the information thus far guys! You have been such a big help... this will save me so much money. Okay, so I just downloaded a backup of my site to "Home Directory" so that I guess that is actually on my server now backed up... Now there are 2 more options, Remote Server and Secure Copy SCP... How can I physically download it to my hard drive?
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Do you have an FTP program? I do most things through FTP. If so, just log in to your account and highlight everything you see and download it. Then you have to go back to your control panel to back up any databases. Someone else will have to help you there.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andrew Prince
      Originally Posted by Michael Truong View Post

      Was he in the process of designing you a CMS (content management system?)

      For you to administrate your website on the backend?
      Yes

      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      Do you have an FTP program? I do most things through FTP. If so, just log in to your account and highlight everything you see and download it. Then you have to go back to your control panel to back up any databases. Someone else will have to help you there.
      I successfully copied all of my files to my computer with FTP.

      I really don't know what to tell this guy just something such as "I'll give you to next week but otherwise I am going to find someone else to finish the work"
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  • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
    Just post on his rentacoder profile if it is allowed how he is screwing you over, he took the money in stages as agreed and now refuses to send you the product even though it has been 2 months.

    Include screenshots of his emails too.

    He doesn't seem to have any problem wasting your time and screwing you over so at least he won't do it to anyone else if you do that (he won't ever get a chance)
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
    Drew,

    Do a simple test of your download. In your computer open the folder where you saved the download of your site. In there will be a file called "index." Right click on index, choose "open with" and select the browser you use (Internet Explorer, Firefox, or other), chose your browser and your site should open on your computer.

    You can tell you have opened the one in your computer because, instead of beginning with http:// it will start like this: C:\download folder\index.html. Try the links

    That way you are sure you got it all.

    Then buy a copy of Dreamweaver, or Xsite Pro, or get the free software called KompoZer and start learning to use it. In a few months you will be able to design your own websites, and/or make changes to sites you have hired others to build.

    BTW There is a good set of tutorials for KompoZer at http://www.thesitewizard.com I am not an affiliate. You download KompoZer at http://www.kompozer.net

    :-Don
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    • Profile picture of the author Andrew Prince
      Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post

      Drew,

      Do a simple test of your download. In your computer open the folder where you saved the download of your site. In there will be a file called "index." Right click on index, choose "open with" and select the browser you use (Internet Explorer, Firefox, or other), chose your browser and your site should open on your computer.

      You can tell you have opened the one in your computer because, instead of beginning with http:// it will start like this: C:download folderindex.html. Try the links

      That way you are sure you got it all.

      Then buy a copy of Dreamweaver, or Xsite Pro, or get the free software called KompoZer and start learning to use it. In a few months you will be able to design your own websites, and/or make changes to sites you have hired others to build.

      BTW There is a good set of tutorials for KompoZer at thesitewizard.com: Website design, promotion, CGI, PHP, JavaScript scripting, and revenue earning. I am not an affiliate. You download KompoZer at KompoZer - Easy web authoring

      :-Don
      I don't think the back up worked, when I tried opening the .index files with IE all that came up was usage statistics. I found the .index in the home directory folder... argh I did a 3 MB back up from hostgator and supposedly all you do is click that and it downloads to your desktop which is what I did...
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  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    Same thing sort of happened to me. needed a WP altered a tad. $400 is all. They totally ignored what I asked for. Will have to do it myself. I was just trying to save some time.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I would tell him that his deadline is passed and you are terminating your relationship. Immediately change your Hostgator password (before you tell him you are terminating your relationship). You already have the files.

    Post feedback for the project and say that he did a satisfactory job up to a point but did not complete the job and did not meet deadlines.

    Then hire someone else to complete it. Get someone with excellent feedback and maybe rent-a-coder won't be the best place to find him/her. I don't know, I haven't used them.

    Edit: I see his RAC acct has been closed. I would definitely dump this guy and change your Hostgator password. Someone else can most likely finish the job but I would not trust this guy at this point.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andrew Prince
      Originally Posted by Sparhawke View Post

      Just post on his rentacoder profile if it is allowed how he is screwing you over, he took the money in stages as agreed and now refuses to send you the product even though it has been 2 months.

      Include screenshots of his emails too.

      He doesn't seem to have any problem wasting your time and screwing you over so at least he won't do it to anyone else if you do that (he won't ever get a chance)
      That's a good idea except his RAC is closed now...
      Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post

      Drew,

      Do a simple test of your download. In your computer open the folder where you saved the download of your site. In there will be a file called "index." Right click on index, choose "open with" and select the browser you use (Internet Explorer, Firefox, or other), chose your browser and your site should open on your computer.

      You can tell you have opened the one in your computer because, instead of beginning with http:// it will start like this: C:download folderindex.html. Try the links

      That way you are sure you got it all.

      Then buy a copy of Dreamweaver, or Xsite Pro, or get the free software called KompoZer and start learning to use it. In a few months you will be able to design your own websites, and/or make changes to sites you have hired others to build.

      BTW There is a good set of tutorials for KompoZer at thesitewizard.com: Website design, promotion, CGI, PHP, JavaScript scripting, and revenue earning. I am not an affiliate. You download KompoZer at KompoZer - Easy web authoring


      :-Don
      Great idea, I will be trying this in a few minutes. The website is PHP based and uses Mysql I believe. Does dreamweaver teach that?

      Originally Posted by DogScout View Post

      Same thing sort of happened to me. needed a WP altered a tad. $400 is all. They totally ignored what I asked for. Will have to do it myself. I was just trying to save some time.
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      I would tell him that his deadline is passed and you are terminating your relationship. Immediately change your Hostgator password (before you tell him you are terminating your relationship). You already have the files.

      Post feedback for the project and say that he did a satisfactory job up to a point but did not complete the job and did not meet deadlines.

      Then hire someone else to complete it. Get someone with excellent feedback and maybe rent-a-coder won't be the best place to find him/her. I don't know, I haven't used them.

      Edit: I see his RAC acct has been closed. I would definitely dump this guy and change your Hostgator password. Someone else can most likely finish the job but I would not trust this guy at this point.
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  • Profile picture of the author CPADefenderDotNet
    I feel your pain.

    But I would *never* pay upfront for a project. Sites like RAC and Elance.com use Escrow for a reason - to protect both parties.

    If I were you, I would contact the guy, express your frustration in no uncertain terms, and say that you are on the point of withdrawing from the project, and you will express your dissatisfaction further in his feedback history on the site.

    Good feedback and reputation is crucial for these guys getting future work, so I'm sure you will quickly get a reaction.

    However, you may well be burning bridges with this guy for future work, but hey, there are plenty of good/reliable contractors on these sites that would be glad of the work.

    Just my thought.
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  • Profile picture of the author Maddi
    Drew I understand you being an honest person and trusting him with everything but that is very normal in freelance work. The max I [used to] give is 50% in the start because obviously the freelancer may think the same thing *what if he doesn't pay me*

    Well now that I don't have this problem as I work with full time staff these days and they are very loyal and reliable.

    As for your problem, Dennis and other fellow warriors have been great in guiding you and by the looks of things you don't seem to be very familiar with ftp and hosting accounts and I take it that this clearly reflects in your communications with the freelancer which presumable is the primary reason he is playing about with your project.

    YouTube - Creating a Back Up of Your Web Site in 3 Minutes or Less see if this works for you and download a back up .

    Also can you give details of the project that if it was cms what platform was it based on? I have a feeling the entire project might not have been worth $1500 at the first place.

    I know its frustrating but we'll sort something out

    We are all here to help.

    Regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author robrave
    If that was php files then that won't run just by opening the file on your computer. You need to up the mysql server on your computer which contains the database.

    I just checked your site and it was not that overly complicated.

    I guess what you just want is a front-end so that you can edit things without going over technical.
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  • Profile picture of the author thinkrich
    It is important that you know how your website works so that you can make any/all changes to it yourself, without relying on a 'programmer' to do it.

    If it is written in PHP then you may have some difficulty.

    The basic HTML codes, you WILL need to learn yourself.

    I write all my pages by hand, but I always keep 'cheat sheets' on My Computer, so I can refer to my 'Swipe Files' to get specific codes for certain portions.

    I had to learn HTML by myself, so if I can do it, so can you.

    Backups of your websites can actually throw you over your webspace allowance so you will need to download them to your PC then delete them off your server, otherwise you could exceed webspace allowance.

    You should also have access to your cPanel so you can attribute email accounts for that domain and start using them (if you choose).

    If you cannot access your cPanel at all, due to not being able to log in with the given username & password then your 'programmer' has changed them and effectively hijacked your site.

    However, HostGator Support should be able to reset them to something else so that you can regain control over your own webspace.

    Once your website is completed, I suggest you get HostGator Support to issue you with new username & password (or just password) so that your current programmer cannot log into it again.


    FTP is your friend. You can see which new pages have been incorporated without having to re-download the whole website.

    There is a Software available (but I dont know what it is or where it is) that you can use to view your entire website before you put it online to see exactly how it works.

    Yes, even php files can be seen with this software as it turns your PC into a 'mini-server' for this exact purpose.

    Any Warriors know where to get this software?

    I was sent the link in an email, but I get about 3,000 emails a day...
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    • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
      Originally Posted by thinkrich View Post

      There is a Software available (but I dont know what it is or where it is) that you can use to view your entire website before you put it online to see exactly how it works.

      Yes, even php files can be seen with this software as it turns your PC into a 'mini-server' for this exact purpose.
      Sounds like you're talking about lamp (linux, apache, mysql php)

      There are a few variants, wamp xampp.

      I tried installing the first one, couldn't get it to go on my computer. Just working on the files on the server right now, but will be giving it another try in a couple weeks.
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    Originally Posted by Drew1204 View Post

    Hey guys just looking for some advice on what I should do.

    I went on rentacoder.com late January and posted that I wanted a website made. I found a coder I thought I liked and he began work that same day. Completion date was set for around Feb 12th. It was around $1500 and he said that he needed the funds to be sent around the 30th other wise he wouldn't get them for the next pay time which would have been a whole month more. He was pretty close from what I could tell to finished around Jan 30th so I sent over about 80% of the payment and would send the rest when he finished.

    It is now almost April, a full 2 months past completion and he sends me an email about once a week saying that it's almost done, one more week, let me do an upload-- but then never does.

    It really sucks because it is almost the way I want it but it just isn't finished and isn't usable in the way that it is for me because I need an easy to use admin section and that is what he is working on now but I'm so damn tired of waiting for this website its ridiculous.

    I really wish I didn't pay up front and since I'm a good honest guy I trusted that he would keep his word and finish the job but that just seems out of the picture.

    My question to you guys is... what should I do about this? I really don't know about making websites except easy blogs with wordpress. What are my options? Can I get files for the site somehow? Is there any leverage I can have against him to make him finish? I paid a good chunk of money for this and it is absolutely ridiculous now. Thanks so much for any ideas on what I could do...


    P.S. I learned my lesson and will never pay early EVER again until the site is 100% completed. Is RAC still the best place to find a coder?
    If you paid him by creditcard, you can call VISA/MASTERCARD/AMEX and simply chargeback the whole 1.5k. That usually does the trick

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  • Profile picture of the author marcdonovan
    Originally Posted by Drew1204 View Post


    My question to you guys is... what should I do about this? I really don't know about making websites except easy blogs with wordpress. What are my options? Can I get files for the site somehow? Is there any leverage I can have against him to make him finish? I paid a good chunk of money for this and it is absolutely ridiculous now. Thanks so much for any ideas on what I could do...


    P.S. I learned my lesson and will never pay early EVER again until the site is 100% completed. Is RAC still the best place to find a coder?
    Hi Drew,

    I can help. PM me. I am a 25-year programmer and I can get your site backed up and show you how to do it yourself. You should be doing that regularly anyway since files and databases have a tendency to disappear when you least expect it.

    I have used RAC and was very happy with the results, but I knew exactly what they were doing, so they couldn't snow me. Rule number one, which you just paid tuition to learn is don't pay until they deliver. Second, you have to tell them exactly what you want without leaving out any details. They will only do what you tell them and they are very literal. Third, I get progress reports daily and I verify the results of the changes they have made. If there are no changes after a few days, they are snowing you. Pay them for what they have done so far and move on. You need to know how to look at what has changed. Look at the dates on the files. If there were no files changed within the past week, guess what, they are working on another project.

    What I do is I use git, which is a revision control system. I can see all the changes made with gitk, a visual change map tool that is included with the free download. You can literally see every change made to every file. No changes = no working = no paying.

    The admin portion of a cms is the hardest part and requires the most work. This is where your coder underestimated and rather than tell you he screwed up, he strung you along. I'm curious why you didn't use joomla or one of the other cms. I've never played with them but I am pretty sure they come with this admin stuff built in.
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    Drew -
    Usually, not always, but usually, the best people to help you are found right here on WF. Programmers, website designers, etc. or someone here can refer you to someone they use that is dependable.
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