Domain Name - com, net, org, info?

by kcman
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If you found a good keyword that you wanted to use as a domain name and the com, net, org and info were taken - is it ok to use a hyphen this way?

Example: www.DogTrainingToday.com and the net, org , info were taken - would it be ok to use it like this www.DogTraining-Today.com
Thanks
#domain #info #net #org
  • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
    Yes you could but what I like to do is find a secondary popular keyword that relates to your niche and add the word before or after the domain.

    Example"

    The keyphrase that you wanted is taken is "NY houses for rent"

    and you might see that "best NY houses" is another popular searched phrase

    Instead of using a hyphen id register bestnyhousesforrent.com which would target BOTH keyphrases...
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  • Profile picture of the author simonjwarner
    I like a .com best myself, If its a "serious" project then all grab as many TLDs as I can for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary King
    Agreed with Ernie, if you can add more "umph" to the domain, do it that way. I would try to keep it as short as possible when doing so. In other words, if you made it:

    amazinglystunningbestnyhousesforrent.com that may be a bit much. Seems better to do two or more domains on that one like:
    bestnyhousesforrent.com and amazingnyhousesforrent.com with each targeting their respective phrases directly.

    This has been discussed on the forum many times, with lots of good responses, but they gel out to be (basically)

    1 - keep it short
    2 - use as few dashes as possible, but some are ok (if it looks spammy, probably too much)
    3 - keep it relevant if possible like Ernie suggests
    4 - using .net, .org etc is ok if the .com is taken - that said, consider finding a .com that adds to the end with another term or short generic phrase

    Here's what I mean by #4:

    Let's say that
    PinkBoaWearingPurpleDinosaur.com is taken

    PinkBoaWearingPurpleDinosaur.net (or .org) would be OK in general, but

    PinkBoaWearingPurpleDinosaurInfo.com might be better

    IMHO, .com's are the only way to go if the domain is for a business (like an offline biz or online too, not just affiliate or landing pages). If you're pushing affiliate stuff/adsense, etc. from it, the others are ok, but if potential customers of your products/services will be hitting the site, it's .com all the way.
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      • Profile picture of the author Gary King
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        You might just have to go for PurpleDinosaurWearingPinkBoa.com instead, then - what can you do?
        Sounds like it may be in a red light district... ew...


        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        I completely agree.

        My problem with not having the .com isn't about whether I should use the .net/.org/.whatever instead: it's simply about the fact that if the .com isn't available, that means someone else already owns it. Whether they're using it or not, I can't control how it's used in future, and apart from potentially losing traffic to it, it might impact my future business in a negative way.
        Right on - if you match too closely, then certainly your traffic will be siphoned off as it's habit for people to type .com - I see countless emails going to people that have an sbcglobal (now ATT) email - they use the format:

        userwhatever@sbcglobal.net NOT @sbcglobal.com... people type the .com out of habit and get non-deliverable messages returned.


        Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

        I'm seeing a lot of local small businesses these days opt for a .net or .biz since the .com has been taken by another business in another city/state/country or by a domainer who wants an obscene amount for the .com.
        Yeah, squatters are everywhere. If it's at all possible these folks (again, IMHO) should try to find something similar. If they get too close or the exact same thing with a .net, people will be going to the parked page or to nowhere (if they aren't using it) and then we have an issue. Hence my thoughts at the end of the post for business to stick with .com any time they possibly can - if it's an adsense or review site, not a big deal.

        BTW - if there's a squatter on companyx13abc.com then companyx13abc may have a legal right to get that domain, especially if they have their business name trademarked.
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        I am not a lawyer. People like me more than that usually. But I do know that to be at least a possibility.
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        • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
          Originally Posted by Gary King View Post

          Yeah, squatters are everywhere. If it's at all possible these folks (again, IMHO) should try to find something similar. If they get too close or the exact same thing with a .net, people will be going to the parked page or to nowhere (if they aren't using it) and then we have an issue. Hence my thoughts at the end of the post for business to stick with .com any time they possibly can
          It's more like somebody in Chicago has rayspizza.com so somebody who has a restaurant by the same name in Miami might buy rayspizza.net. Some people insist on having the exact name and not rayspizzamiami.com.

          One example is that I have a .com steakhouse restaurant domain that I use to for an eBay EPN affiliate site. There are 5 local restaurants with that same name scattered across the US. You would have thought they would have at least asked if I was willing to sell at a good price (I was) but they ended up either buying a .net or .biz or using the name plus city.
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    • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
      Originally Posted by Gary King View Post

      IMHO, .com's are the only way to go if the domain is for a business
      I'm seeing a lot of local small businesses these days opt for a .net or .biz since the .com has been taken by another business in another city/state/country or by a domainer who wants an obscene amount for the .com.
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  • Profile picture of the author seriousmny
    The folks at Market Samurai just did a tutorial concerning domain names, specifically concerning .com, .org, .net and hyphens. Here's the link for that.

    Noble Samurai Domain Name SEO Questions Answered
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  • Profile picture of the author EvcRo
    It doesn't matter if it's a com, org, info. At least for search engines. Maybe for 0.00001% of your clients will matter. As for - in domain names, for cheap sniper sites aimed at getting on first page with low work it matters a little, better without - but if the domain name is not available without - take the hyphen version, it's not big deal.

    Check this

    Results 1 - 100 of about 39,900,000 for dog training.
    No1 : dog-obedience-training-review dot com

    QED
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  • Personally i like .org, i have had the best ranking with this domain ext. .net also works like a charm The only one i'm not keen on is .info...
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  • Profile picture of the author daj
    I only like hyphenated domains if the word or word's have a hyphen in them naturally, such as self-esteem.com, otherwise I would avoid using them.

    Why?

    1. Minimal type-in traffic
    2. You will lose traffic to the unhyphenated domain
    3. They aren't easy for customers to remember
    4. It looks unprofessional

    As for domain extensions, .com is king in the USA. If that's the market you're looking to grow your business in try to only use that extension. .Net/.Org is good only if the dot com isn't developed (or else you will lose traffic in most cases). As for the other unpopular global extensions(.info/.biz/.ws/etc.) I would avoid them. If you're looking to grow your market in a certain country, and they allow non-resident's to purchase a domain in their country code(cctld), choose that country's extension you wish to dominate. .US for example is a viable alternative to .com and works great for american based companies/businesses.

    Instead of DogTraining-Today.com I would personally choose a similar word without having to use a hyphen, such as Weekly, Monthly, Daily, etc. until you find a unhyphenated .com available. Estibot.com has a great domain idea tool that's free to use, to make it easier for you to find an available domain. Link: www.estibot.com/longtail.php
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  • Profile picture of the author Gene Pimentel
    Everything else being equal, the chain of 'power' goes like this:
    .com .org .net hyphen
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy Trump
    I avoid hyphens like the plague and always register .com domains.
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  • Profile picture of the author frqhuss
    It's alway better to ignore domains with hyphens when it is for serious business...
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  • Profile picture of the author Arivin90
    I choose .com if not available .org for second option
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  • Profile picture of the author aa411853
    I disagree on hyphenated domains. I've got several two word domains (e.g. www.one-two.com, not an actual domain but you get the picture) with a hyphen in the middle that rank very well. Even better than the two word domain with no hyphen.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gene Pimentel
      Originally Posted by aa411853 View Post

      I disagree on hyphenated domains. I've got several two word domains (e.g. www.one-two.com, not an actual domain but you get the picture) with a hyphen in the middle that rank very well. Even better than the two word domain with no hyphen.
      I think you're misunderstanding the point. Nobody is saying hyphenated domains can't rank well. Many do. But everything else being equal, it has been my experience that Google will choose to rank the non-hyphenated version above the hyphenated one. Again -- that's assuming everything else is equal. Same content, same traffic, same backlink power, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author kishorem
    Dear KC Man,

    Domain name with Hyphen is totally fine.

    Remember, customers who visit your website is Human Being, a website with .com always seem more professional to human being (compared to .info etc)
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    I always go for the .com and if that is not available then I go for the .net or .org
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  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    Originally Posted by kcman View Post

    If you found a good keyword that you wanted to use as a domain name and the com, net, org and info were taken - is it ok to use a hyphen this way?

    Example: www.DogTrainingToday.com and the net, org , info were taken - would it be ok to use it like this www.DogTraining-Today.com
    Thanks
    Yep, hypens dont make a difference. But always go for .com domains, they are tier1 and best for SEO rankings ... although some would argue that .org also works very well.

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