Beta Testers Needed - Article Spinner + More -

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Hello Everyone,
Ok need a few beta testers, to apply you must post below that you are interested in testing a brand new website.

I will only select those that I feel are in my best interest to select. You will be using The Composer, Spinner, Creation and testing other parts of the site.

Requirement: yahoo messenger

After you make your post below I will contact you if interested.

Thanks,
James
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    I've been waiting for this very interested in it. I'd love to try it out. I do have yahoo messenger. I'd be happy to review if that's whats needed (usability results etc.) If it makes my job easier and gives me quality I'm sold. I'm open to this for sure. I wanna come too Dad
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  • Profile picture of the author hugofortin
    Hi TheRichJerksNet,

    I will be interested to help you, but what are the avantages for the beta testers?

    bye

    Hugo
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Cheesman
    I am interested...

    Dennis
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  • Profile picture of the author David Surk
    I'd be love to test your spinner. I have been trying to find the perfect content spinning system since the early days of articlebot. Currently I'm a fan of website content wizard, though I do like content composer and word flood as well.

    Much love,
    Dave
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Wigley
    Id be interested in helping test this.
    I am currently using Power article rewriter for most article spinning which, as far as i know, is the fastest way of doing things.
    Would be good to see what else is in development
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  • Profile picture of the author Jakehyten
    I will test it. I'm pretty skeptical cause ive never seen a decent SPINNER but will PRAISE and pay big bucks for one that works!
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  • Profile picture of the author Oliver Hart
    Hi again James.

    I will test it if you let me do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Thanks guys...

    Currently right now positions are filled.. If I need anyone else I will send you a PM..

    James
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Okay, I called James' bluff and asked to review this thing.

      For those of you who don't know me, I make my living writing articles. I write
      them all from scratch. I don't even use PLR material. I am normally totally
      against all this software. So needless to say, going in to test this, I had a
      strong bias against it. So you have to take this review from that perspective.

      Having said that, let me start off by saying what this spinner is NOT.

      It is NOT a replacement for a human being. No way, no how, not today, not
      tomorrow, not EVER.

      If you are looking for something where you can take an article, push a
      button and have hundreds of "useful" articles spun from it, you have a very
      long wait. It's not going to happen. Not today, not tomorrow, not EVER.

      However, if you are looking for a bit of a short cut "provided" that you are
      willing to put in the work involved, this thing is actually quite good. But
      even at that, it's only going to be as good as your very own writing.

      Unfortunately, I can't go into more detail without giving away the process,
      but suffice it to say, if you don't like writing to begin with, this thing won't
      do you much good.

      However, if you have decent writing skills, don't mind putting in the work
      required, and want to turn a half dozen variations into 30 or more articles
      that are going to be very hard to tell aren't humanly written, then this is
      the best thing you're going to find out there.

      Plus, there are other uses. You can actually create whole ebooks from
      this thing. And yes, they'll be quite readable. Again, without giving away
      how it's done, I can't say more than that. But make no mistake about it,
      this is NOT a push button solution. It doesn't exist and never will exist.

      For the pro writer, this probably won't be of much use.

      For the person who can't write his way out of a paper bag, same thing,

      For the person in between, the guy who can write fairly well, but really
      doesn't enjoy it like I do (who does?) this may help you a lot.

      Now, the next question. Is it worth $37 a month?

      Well, if the number of spun articles you create brings you enough traffic
      to get a decent amount of income, then it is. If not, it isn't. It's really
      that simple. It comes down to ROI.

      Of course the extra features do add to the value and you'll have to decide
      for yourself if it's worth while.

      Bottom Line: Unlike most spinners that are total crap, or even just
      marginally useful, this one actually gets my "somewhat seal of approval"
      only because used "correctly" it can generate near human quality articles.
      As far as how unique they will be from the original, again, that will depend
      on how much work you put into it. I could use this thing, spin a half dozen
      articles and you couldn't tell that they were spun. But that is ONLY because
      the amount of work I would put in to do that would be far greater than I
      think most people would be willing to invest. And therein lies the rub.

      I think in the hands of your average hack, this software isn't going to be
      more than a step up from your top of the line spinners, only because most
      people will be too lazy to use it correctly. If that's you, look elsewhere. But
      if you treat your business professionally and want a slight edge over people
      who don't and want more article bang for the buck, this is an excellent
      piece of software.

      I am honestly impressed. While it's still not the real thing, it's the closest
      I've found so far.

      Excellent job James.
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  • Profile picture of the author flnz400
    Wow, I must have missed this earlier, I guess I thought this was coming via email.

    Seems like an honest review Steven...

    And James, I'd like to test this out if you have any availability left...
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Hi Steven,
    Thank you for your very honest review,it is very much appreciated.

    I would like to state as I have on this forum before "Nothing can replace a Human Writer" .. The aim of this site is not to try to do that either.. Many powerful tools are inside the members area which include creation mode to create ebooks as Steven said but it also can create other things.. Full submission service along with a full article directory you can post to...

    Again I would like to thank Steven for his honesty... We truly need more like him..

    James
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

      Hi Steven,
      Thank you for your very honest review,it is very much appreciated.

      I would like to state as I have on this forum before "Nothing can replace a Human Writer" .. The aim of this site is not to try to do that either.. Many powerful tools are inside the members area which include creation mode to create ebooks as Steven said but it also can create other things.. Full submission service along with a full article directory you can post to...

      Again I would like to thank Steven for his honesty... We truly need more like him..

      James

      Thanks James, I can honestly say this is a useful service if used correctly.

      Now I guess I have a lot of crow to eat because I was 100% sure I was
      going to tear this thing to shreds.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jgregory
        Hi James,

        I'm a veteran user of Website Content Wizard and used ArticleBot in the past. I'd love to have a go at beta testing and will give you a full report.

        Cheers,
        Jan

        Just PM me the detials
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        Thanks James, I can honestly say this is a useful service if used correctly.

        Now I guess I have a lot of crow to eat because I was 100% sure I was
        going to tear this thing to shreds.
        Oh I don't know Steven... I would like to see a YouTube video of you standing on your head and whistling Dixie..

        Re: Article Spinner - Create 100's of articles from 1 "PROPERLY" would you pay $27.95 a Month ?? If you stood on your head and whistled Dixie, I wouldn't believe that this
        thing was worth more than scrap metal.

        Good luck with your idea but I doubt you'll get many people with half a brain who will buy into it.
        To everyone else the site is live, no beta testers needed.. You can find the live site from my Sig...

        James
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        • Profile picture of the author melanied
          I would be interested!
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          • Profile picture of the author ExRat
            Hi Steven,

            I'm a little confused. You said -
            I make my living writing articles. I write them all from scratch. I don't even use PLR material. I am normally totally against all this software. So needless to say, going in to test this, I had a strong bias against it.
            But then you say -

            this is the best thing you're going to find out there.
            Unlike most spinners that are total crap, or even just marginally useful, this one actually gets my "somewhat seal of approval" only because used "correctly" it can generate near human quality articles.
            I don't sell any spinners or any IM products for that matter, but like JGregory above -

            I'm a veteran user of Website Content Wizard and used ArticleBot in the past
            I also started with articlebot, and have tried and tested every other similar application that I could get my hands on and still use some of them.

            I'm just wondering, based on what you said in the quotes above, how many of the others you have tried? You seem to be suggesting you have used them all and out of them all, this is the best?

            Yet your comments suggest to me that you are classing all other content manipulation programs in the same bracket as stuff like contentboss or synonymizer which are push-button/automatic synonym replacement.

            Therefore I wonder how many you have tried that are based on human synonym replacement, but with automation applied to the content once it has been prepared and with the focus of the software being on ease of preparation?

            If my hunch is correct, then why are you saying that 'most others are total crap' and that 'this is the best thing you're going to find out there'? Again, if I'm correct (in that you haven't tested all the others that you say this is better than) then this is an example of why buyers end up confused and cynical because they find that every IM product has testimonials stating that each one of them is the very best on the market.
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            • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
              Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

              Hi Steven,

              I'm a little confused. You said -
              But then you say -

              I don't sell any spinners or any IM products for that matter, but like JGregory above -

              I also started with articlebot, and have tried and tested every other similar application that I could get my hands on and still use some of them.

              I'm just wondering, based on what you said in the quotes above, how many of the others you have tried? You seem to be suggesting you have used them all and out of them all, this is the best?

              Yet your comments suggest to me that you are classing all other content manipulation programs in the same bracket as stuff like contentboss or synonymizer which are push-button/automatic synonym replacement.

              Therefore I wonder how many you have tried that are based on human synonym replacement, but with automation applied to the content once it has been prepared and with the focus of the software being on ease of preparation?

              If my hunch is correct, then why are you saying that 'most others are total crap' and that 'this is the best thing you're going to find out there'? Again, if I'm correct (in that you haven't tested all the others that you say this is better than) then this is an example of why buyers end up confused and cynical because they find that every IM product has testimonials stating that each one of them is the very best on the market.
              Roger,
              You are wanting to compare traditional spinners to a site that is a Article Marketers Paradise.. Huge difference here.. What ArticleProductions offers no other site has or can even compare, ArticleProductions is 100% unique and goes way beyond just a spinner.

              * Create eBooks and Reports that Output as PDF
              * Create Article Sales Pages (no other sites allows this)
              * Full html abilities or Traditional Articles, your choice
              * Complete Article Directory
              * RSS Feeds, Publishers, Athors Personal Pages
              * Submission Service with Configuration (unlimited directories)
              * Ability to Add Images, Flash, Video and etc to Articles
              * Each User has his/her own Images/Media Folders
              * Compose Regular Articles
              * Spin Articles with Full Management
              * All Spun Articles Remain on the Server for 45 Days
              * Edit, View, Delete, Submit, Create, Download
              * No Google Ads or Other Ads on Your Articles (like most directories)
              * Plus a Great Deal More....

              Can your Article Re-Writer, Jet Spinner, and other Similar Apps do the above ?? No... As a matter fact the following websites ArticleMarketer, SubmitYourArtiles, and UniqueArticleWizard can't even compare to what ArticleProductions does...

              So please do not just say it's another "Spinner" .... ArticleProductions is the very Best, Hands Down!!!

              James
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              • Profile picture of the author ExRat
                Hi James,

                So please do not just say it's another "Spinner" .... ArticleProductions is the very Best, Hands Down!!!
                Where did I say this?

                If you read what I wrote, you will see that I was commenting on Steven's statements and enquiring whether he has done enough research to come to the conclusions that he has.

                But as you bring it up...

                Personally, I'm only interested in finding the best spinner around (in terms of ease of applying human spins) therefore 90% of the stuff on your list is of no interest to me, and I prefer {|} spinners to ones that use tokens.

                For me, the ultimate spinner is one that uses the minimum of actions to set up the spin. Consequently, I'm teaching DNS to operate with PAR so that I can use it hands free. If you can top that, I'm interested.

                I don't need another article directory or flash/image/video capability, I make my ebooks with ebook software, I don't want 'article sales pages', I can get html articles, RSS feeds, publisher and author pages, submission services, unlimited spun articles stored on a server etc etc.

                Can your Article Re-Writer, Jet Spinner, and other Similar Apps do the above ?? No... As a matter fact no other website including ArticleMarketer, SubmitYourArtiles, and UniqueArticleWizard can even compare to what ArticleProductions does...
                Yes they can do most of it, but the stuff they can't that your service can, I don't want anyway.

                I thought from your previous sales pitch thread where you hinted at your secret system that you were going to come up with a spinner that blows away the rest? Well you haven't and PAR still rules the roost - regardless of how long a list you can create of stuff that I don't want. I think I paid $27 or $37 for PAR in a WSO one time payment.

                I don't have a vested interest in this area of the market except as a consumer, but I have seen countless people come and go claiming that they have created the next big thing that will help us to create unique content. Jetspinner and then PAR are the only ones I have found since articlebot that do what they were claimed to - help to reduce the amount of actions required (hence less time and headaches) to reach the goal.

                Steven - what did you think of power article rewriter when you tested it in order to make your claims about all other spinners being crap and this one being the best one people can find out there?
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                • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                  Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

                  Hi James,

                  I thought from your previous sales pitch thread where you hinted at your secret system that you were going to come up with a spinner that blows away the rest? Well you haven't and PAR still rules the roost -
                  Unless you have tested my system you can not such a statement yourself.. PAR has many many problems and is also not cross platform. Manually typing in {|} and having that mess all over your articles that you can't even read to even correct anything is unreal .. My system does not use {|} this mess.. My system is clean and neat, very easy and readable..

                  As for Price the WSO is $22.97 so its even cheaper than what my thread said at $27.95 ...

                  James
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                  • Profile picture of the author ExRat
                    Hi James,

                    Unless you have tested my system you can not such a statement yourself
                    I watched your introductory videos via your WSO. Are you now saying that the videos don't demonstrate what your system does?

                    PAR has many many problems and is also not cross platform
                    What are these problems?

                    The only one I am aware of is that someone blatantly ripped it off (not you, someone else).

                    Manually typing in {|}
                    If you read my last post you'll see that I am using DNS with it (dragon naturally speaking) - I don't manually type in {|}
                    and having that mess all over your articles that you can't even read to even correct anything is unreal
                    You don't need to correct it. The {|} are added by the software in the uncluttered upper window.
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                    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                      Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

                      Hi James,
                      I watched your introductory videos via your WSO. Are you now saying that the videos don't demonstrate what your system does?
                      Watching a video and using the system is 2 different things.. One thing you have failed to see, I do not Hype, I do not B.S. anything.. If I say my system or products will do this or that -- Then they will.. Period!!

                      I am a website developer, not a marketer...

                      James
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            • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
              Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

              Hi Steven,

              I'm a little confused. You said -
              But then you say -

              I don't sell any spinners or any IM products for that matter, but like JGregory above -

              I also started with articlebot, and have tried and tested every other similar application that I could get my hands on and still use some of them.

              I'm just wondering, based on what you said in the quotes above, how many of the others you have tried? You seem to be suggesting you have used them all and out of them all, this is the best?

              Yet your comments suggest to me that you are classing all other content manipulation programs in the same bracket as stuff like contentboss or synonymizer which are push-button/automatic synonym replacement.

              Therefore I wonder how many you have tried that are based on human synonym replacement, but with automation applied to the content once it has been prepared and with the focus of the software being on ease of preparation?

              If my hunch is correct, then why are you saying that 'most others are total crap' and that 'this is the best thing you're going to find out there'? Again, if I'm correct (in that you haven't tested all the others that you say this is better than) then this is an example of why buyers end up confused and cynical because they find that every IM product has testimonials stating that each one of them is the very best on the market.

              Hi Roger:

              I'm sorry if I confused you. I guess I didn't feel I needed to qualify my
              "expertise" in being able to validate a spinner. As I said in my post, I come
              at this from a strong bias against these things. Naturally, that should
              suggest that I have tried quite a few, and I have.

              Which ones?

              Long enough ago that I only remember the names of two of them which
              I'm not going to publicly disclose because then I am going to be bashing
              a product in an open forum and I don't do that. Suffice it to say, the 5
              or 6 of these things that I've tried (4 being software installs and 2 being
              online versions) I was not pleased with any of them. Some were better
              than others. Some were downright awful. One or two were okay at best.
              But this one, at least in comparison to the ones I've tried, is the best.

              Do I love it?

              Again, if you read my review, for me, it's more work that writing your own
              article from scratch, so I would personally never use it. But for somebody
              who writes fairly well and doesn't like to do a lot of writing, I can see this
              as being a useful tool.

              Greatest thing since sliced bread?

              No.

              As good as a human being?

              No.

              And the reason I haven't tested more of these things than I did is simple.
              After the few I tested and seeing how bad they were, and already being
              prejudiced against spinners anyway, I wasn't going to waste my time with
              any more of them.

              Now, if this makes my review of this product invalid, fine, I'll accept that.
              I honestly don't care as the subject itself just isn't that important to me as
              I will never be a consumer of these things.

              So, in summary, from my "limited" experience with spinners, this is the
              best one I've seen. And with the extras, I think for the right person, it
              could be a asset to his article production.

              Hope this clears all that up.
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              • Profile picture of the author ExRat
                Hi James,

                PAR has many many problems and is also not cross platform
                What are these problems please?

                Hi Steven,

                Thanks - yep, that clears it up.
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                • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                  Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

                  Hi James,

                  What are these problems please?

                  I have no desire to have this conversation with you.. Been there already and done that already. If you are pleased with that software which really does nothing but make a mess then I am happy for you..

                  I wish you luck with it and all the best

                  James
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                  • Profile picture of the author psresearch
                    Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

                    I have no desire to have this conversation with you.. Been there already and done that already. If you are pleased with that software which really does nothing but make a mess then I am happy for you..

                    I wish you luck with it and all the best

                    James
                    I want to start out by saying that I am a huge fan of James' product.

                    There are spinners such as Content Composer can do significantly MORE than the spinner James offers, including their own version of spinpoints and even deeper multiple-nesting capabilities and the ability to spin whole phrases and too much that I don't have the time or desire to go into here.

                    However, you have to be extraordinarily savvy to use the advanced features of ContentComposer and not screw it up.

                    ArticleApps by Matt Callen and some others specialize in whole-phrase replacement, but lacks the deep nesting capabilities of ContentComposer.

                    ContentClub has an interesting system for allocating replacements based on either referring back to previous replacements or allocating new words for subsequent replacements (i.e. keep the replacement words the same or vary them).

                    Now, James' spinner may not be the greatest thing since sliced bread, but for the average user it is going to FORCE them to do smarter, higher quality spinning, partly because of what's left OUT.

                    Of course, as I've mentioned elsewhere, the spinning portion isn't the power of the system anyhow. It's too bad the initial beta recruitment was focused around "spinning".

                    And NO spinner I've seen offers any form of branching logic which is a big miss and a basic premise of the most rudimentary NLG systems.

                    Just as a FYI here are the spinner's I've used:

                    * ContentComposer - extremely powerful, but difficult to figure out initially and easy to screw up.
                    * JetSpinner (one nice feature is the csv file feature and the HumanSpinner service).
                    * ArticleApps (strength is phrase replacement and suggestions such as opening, transitional and closing phrases. Upgraded version has some nice automated features for populating phrases, synonyms automatically)
                    * ArticleFactory (Extremely well done instructions and very hard to screw up a spin).
                    * PowerArticleRewriter (only did a basic run-through of the trial, so I'm not sure about this one, but it seemed pretty basic, but had a nice interface).
                    * ContentClub (not enough to make a good judgement on it).
                    * Some basic ones I had programmed - nothing to write home about.
                    * UniqueArticleWizard - (unique spinning method based on permutations). Does submissions and I have a full-time marketing friends who swears by it for link building.
                    * TrafficKahuna substitution spinner (basic spinner)

                    Others I've not tested:
                    * PhpSpinner
                    * WPSpinner
                    * ArticleMarketingAutomation's spinner
                    * WebsiteContentWizard
                    * QuickArticlePro
                    * WordFlood
                    * ContentMania

                    I tend not to use spinners to spin articles, but more as a way to spin elements into existing web pages in order to target specific keywords.

                    I'd be interested in knowing about other spinners as we will be launching the site ArticleSpinners.com next year.

                    Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    i am VERY interested if there is still an open spot!

    G.
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  • Profile picture of the author LuckyLuke
    Hey there,

    Is there a spot open for testing?
    Your product sounds interesting...

    Kind regards
    Luke
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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
    James,

    Just want to clarify a claim you made above, stating that no other website allows article sales pages. That isn't entirely correct. I do know of one other website that has allowed that for quite a long time.

    Careful when comparing to "other" websites. Just keeping it real.

    Respectfully,
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Allen,
    Thanks for the reminder... You dont have an article directory ... You have an article directory membership site, big difference.. lol

    Anyways what I meant was "Article Sales Page" is what I call them allow full html articles that even include a paypal button, product images, sales copy, and etc... You can see an example on my front page..

    James
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Hi Paul,
    Thanks for the support...

    As far as branching logic (although my website is NOT focused on the spinner part) this can be done without a problem...

    James
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