me too..I never use article spinner...I just write it myself..and it's get great responds from readers

Most every article you or anybody else publishes on any article
site will never get ranked in search engines unless you do one
thing: backlink to it.

It doesn't matter if the content is published elsewhere too. The
duplicate content thing is a myth. If you want traffic to your
articles however, you need to title them with keyphrases people
use, have some keywords in them, and backlink to them.

The article spinner thing is so you can submit the same article
to the same directory several times by spinning the content.
While you'll get a little bitty trickle of traffic from just publishing
to a lot of sites - the real traffic for articles comes from

a) getting them published on high-traffic sites
b) getting them ranked for high traffic keyphrases

A is accomplished by writing high quality articles and perhaps
shopping them around to get them published on sites that
don't normally pull content from article directories.

B happens from effective keyword choice and backlinking.

http://www.warriorforum.com/blogs/al...nt-google.html

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I learnt from Mark Ling about duplicate content, his course is one of the best Ive done. Ive also heard from Howie that duplicate content is a no - and other marketers. Im really confussed! I spend and pay alot of money to get articles spinned so that they are fully readable and I then autosubmit them and manual submit them to the top 5-10 directories. But now since I found article submitter and hearing some of your views I am confused?!@

Should I continue doing what I am doing AND use article submitter, suppose it cant hurt but is it going to be wasted effort?

if there is one thing about learning from "guru's" is that they all have their own way of doing things, and probably all have different reasons why it works or doesnt work.

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Thanks for the links, I will read them all now.

You spin articles to resubmit them to the same directories. With
different titles and spun content you can get more mileage and
penetrate the topic within the directory more - getting a higher
percentage of articles within the niche topic within the directory.

You may also, with GoArticles for example, find that your articles
rank for keyphrases in the titles. I don't know enough about
GoArticles to say whether the script will reject articles with
the same body but different titles - but in it's simplest and most
exploitive form spinning would be only a matter of changing
the article title and keywords. Of course most article scripts
will reject such rudimentary spinning, so rearranging thing
gets around such roadblocks.

BUT - if you want to get BIG seo traffic you must write
a manageable number of effective articles that get clickthroughs
on your sig link - then be industrious about backlinking to
your articles. Backlinking is the only reliable way to get your
article ranking high in SE's for competitive keyphrases.

So is there any benefit to article spinning?

Is article submitter worth it, Will submitting the same article to 270 sites with the same backlinks still count?

i usually spin my articles, and also spin the backlink text and submit to different sites but it seems maybe Ive been doing it all wrong?

Below is a link to Google's take on Duplicate Content

Google Duplicate Content

This will definitely answer your questions and concerns.

Ok so its ok to have duplicate content, the google guy on youtube explains this well.

So submitting your article to 300 directories will give you 300 backlinks, which will have the same value has submitting 300 spun articles to 300 blogs?

so this also quanlity vs quality issue. in my opinion, you'd better spin 300 articles to submit to 300 different blogs, not article directory

well its not really quality issue, after I spin the articles you cant tell that they are any different. However, the problem is do i concentrate on spinning articles or on creating original articles and submitting them to 4-5 directories and also using article submitting to submit them to a few hundred more directories.

If you stop trying to spam Google, your life will become much more simple and enjoyable.

Yes, using article spinners are an attempt to spam Google. The search giant HATES them and will make them inaccessable in most instances. There is NO PENALTY in terms of devaluing your website or banning you, but it's a useless activity.

Please show me a search result where a spun article is on Google's main page for a keyword. Please try that and see for yourself. Certainly a very few will sneak through for non competitive keywords but the exceptions prove the rule.

So, what are article spinners good for? Absolutely nothing. Not even backlinks. Do you really think that Google cannot pick up on our puny attempts to spam it?

I know a lot of people will not listen to this advice. Some will. The main idea is to prove it to yourself by looking at search results.

so that make your hand write it and make it different,

I think some of you are getting the wrong idea. Im not talking about auto-spin articles im talking about a 500 word article which takes 3 hours to write and looks like any other article. I use these articles to create 2.0 pages as well as submit them through amautomation, ezarticles and goarticles.

As for spinning is useless, this is NOT true. I know spinning works because I have one site where all I have done is used spin articles plus posted a few of the spun versions on ezarticles/goarticles. For this I have 5 keywords on SERP within the top 3-6 results, and all have been there for over 12 months. To get this result I have submitted 10 spin articles on various blogs creating a total of over 1200 submissions. However, the backlinks from these only seem to count for 50 of the backlinks or so, which I dont fully understand why. The only thing I can think of is the articles get posted on blogs, google picks them up then throws them in the junk pile and doesnt count it as a backlink....

I have very little experience in writing original articles other than content for my websites, so this is why I am here asking what is it best to submit to 5-6 directories with the original article or 200...

From this post I have learnt the more you submit the article the better, even if it is duplicate because at the end of the day its a new backlink for my site and this is what counts.

And I know understand that there is no negative to having duplicate content!

As for mark ling he highly recommends Affiloblueprint users to use Amautomation, and from my results he is right, spinning has worked well getting my pages ranked on google. However I was always under the impression that any duplicate content is bad, which I know know is a very bad wifes tail.

Let me give you a straight answer:
I'm still getting article views and site visitors from articles:
1) That were NOT spun/changed in any way
2) That were spun

That's the bottom line. I don't want to go into a debate on what to do because it depends on a lot of factors, and personal preferences. Also, many people have their theories, I just told what's 100% true and proven. Whatever you decide, spend more time doing it (a lot), than thinking how to do it.

In other words, duplicate content does not matter in the way you assume it does.

Duplicate content is a myth.. Take a look at syndication sites that distribute press releases and news stories across the internet. Most of these sites are huge news sites that basically host the same news story.. It's fine don't sweat it.

Having said that I don't recommend you submit your article to 1000's of low quality article sites. Google realizes that this was an easy way to get tons of links to your site and it no longer works to get you good rankings.

Concentrate on submitting HIGH quality articles to only the top 10 directories.

1. EzineArticles
2. IdeaMarketers
3. GoArticles
4. WebProNews
5. ArticleDashboard
6. ArticleCity
7. Article Alley
8. Amazines
9. Articles Factory
10. Buzzle

You will get much better results this way.

Duplicate content is only a problem when it occurs on your own site. Having the same or nearly the same content on more than one page on your site will cause ranking issues with Google.

...oh and don't spin content, this goes back to the black hat days of creating mass duplicated sites and these were invented as a way to get around doing scraping and still getting tons of pages indexed in Google. Its kind of hung on to life from there. I don't recommend it.

Think like Google and what they want.

Provide VALUE in the way of EXCELLENT content, and then submit to ONLY the highest quality sites...