Best Article Distribution Service?

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I tried distributeyourarticles.com and didnt really see great results, does anyone have any companies they prefer to use to distribute their articles?
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    • Profile picture of the author mark@1to101
      If you've got the time to spin your articles, then give Unique Article Wizard, Article Marketing Automation, Article Ranks and Free Traffic System a go.

      The combined cost of those is about $170 a month, so you need to distribute a lot of articles to make it worth your while.

      Go with Unique Article Wizard if you've only got the funds for one
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      • Profile picture of the author DogScout
        Originally Posted by mark@1to101 View Post

        If you've got the time to spin your articles, then give Unique Article Wizard, Article Marketing Automation, Article Ranks and Free Traffic System a go.

        The combined cost of those is about $170 a month, so you need to distribute a lot of articles to make it worth your while.

        Go with Unique Article Wizard if you've only got the funds for one
        Geesh that is a lot of money. Personally I'd go here: Article Directory
        I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
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        • Profile picture of the author mark@1to101
          Originally Posted by DogScout View Post

          Geesh that is a lot of money. Personally I'd go here: Article Directory
          I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
          It's a lot of money if you only submit a few articles a week, but not if you submit, say, 5 a day.

          Submitting 5 articles a day (excluding weekends) takes that $170 down to less than $2 per article. Not so much now, right?

          This approach works. It's up to you if you don't want to try it, but it works and I'll continue to use it until it stops working.
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        • Profile picture of the author drew3806
          Originally Posted by DogScout View Post

          Geesh that is a lot of money. Personally I'd go here: Article Directory
          I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
          I looked over this page and I'm going to try it. I am assuming that the fact that the 150 sites have their site maps updated and pinged every 24 hours and the RSS feeds submitted and syndicated will help with indexing and cross linking your links.

          It also allows unlimited pen names, something submityourarticles.com does not, and it is $30 more expensive.

          If this is the case it should be a bargain at $16.97 a month.
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  • Profile picture of the author mark@1to101
    Originally Posted by cjmo75 View Post

    I was unaware there were actual services that would do this for you. Are they expensive or reasonable?
    Unique Article Wizard = $67

    Article Marketing Automation = $47

    Article Ranks = $10

    Free Traffic System (Pro Version) = $47

    Distribute Your Articles = $30

    Isnare = $1-2 per article
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Originally Posted by cjmo75 View Post

    I was unaware there were actual services that would do this for you. Are they expensive or reasonable? I learn so many new things every day here. Joining this forum was probably the best thing I've done so far!
    Most are over-priced and useless ... Yes I have tested many of those sites mentioned and I am not just saying that, it is also my opinion.

    I would rather deal with someone that has been in article marketing well over 10 years - Article Marketing Services: Article Distribution Services from The Phantom Writers Since 2001 - prices are very good for the service offered.

    James
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  • Profile picture of the author BrainCopy
    I've actually had the pleasure of working with Unique Article Wizzard. Unfortunately I was not satisfied with UAW....Their service was not all that great, and I just couldn't figure out how to use the thing for the life of me, Nor could I get a hold of anyone so I said what the heck with it.

    That's just my experience though, others here my say otherwise.
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  • Has to be Unique Article Wizard amazing service!
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  • Profile picture of the author marketingmashup
    I use Article Submitter. There are several that have similar names, this one is by iwishlist/Brad Callen. There is a free download and you can buy it for about $50 bucks. It allows you to load in your article and either semi-auto submit or auto submit. They both have their advantages. If you have the time, I think using the free download and semi-auto submitting works best since you are still physically there to ensure that your article is successfully submitted to as many sites as possible. The paid one works great if your short on time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Troyer
    Originally Posted by landonwiggs View Post

    I tried distributeyourarticles.com and didnt really see great results, does anyone have any companies they prefer to use to distribute their articles?
    SubmitYourArticle.com is known as one of the best.

    Cheers,
    Ken
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  • Profile picture of the author landonwiggs
    thanks for all the replies I will def. check out these sites. submityourarticle.com seems the best!
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  • Profile picture of the author howinfo
    Originally Posted by landonwiggs View Post

    I tried distributeyourarticles.com and didnt really see great results, does anyone have any companies they prefer to use to distribute their articles?



    I have used distributeyourarticles.com and I managed to get over three hundred one way backlinks in two weeks or so and after bookmarking some of the articles in some of the article directories I have started to get some click through's as well. I am very happy with the service.
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  • Profile picture of the author woodsja
    I'd have to say DistributeYourArticles.com is the best. It has a great interface and support staff. Plus you can have several pen names and they offer spinning too. Definitely worth checking out.
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  • Profile picture of the author areaK
    I have yet to find an automated solution that I really like, and that can keep up with changes without giving me 500 headaches. Link Vines, our link building service, is always trying new software but we have yet to find anything that compares to simply doing it by hand to guarantee everything is done and done correctly. We offer competitive prices and personal service.
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  • Profile picture of the author blue_sky
    Originally Posted by landonwiggs View Post

    I tried distributeyourarticles.com and didnt really see great results, does anyone have any companies they prefer to use to distribute their articles?

    How many articles did you send over the system?

    I have used distributeyourarticles.com and I managed to get over three hundred one way backlinks in two weeks or so and after bookmarking some of the articles in some of the article directories I have started to get some click through's as well. I am very happy with the service.

    I use the service myself and therefore I dare to say your statement is rather bold...

    1. I like the team (chris, Kate etc) they provide a quick and friendly customer service
    2. Its hard to compare the efficiency of such a service e.g will I get better rankings if I use
    articlebot or UAW etc. - At the moment I try to figure out if Article Drip Robot is more efficient than DYA in terms of ranking/backlinks etc
    3. There are a lot of things I like about the service but imo they dont get their priorities straight (the proof reading and submitting process still takes too much time)

    But considering the low price of 19,99 and the amount of time it will save you - the service gets my recommendation!
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    • Profile picture of the author landonwiggs
      I think it depends on the niche, because i submitted 1 article and only had 127 submissions... but thats still 127 backlinks. I just was expecting way too much because they say they had a huge list of article sites and I only had 127 submissions? Also, do you have any idea how long it takes those articles to be indexed? im just curious, idk how long it will take to start seeing results


      Originally Posted by blue_sky View Post

      How many articles did you send over the system?




      I use the service myself and therefore I dare to say your statement is rather bold...

      1. I like the team (chris, Kate etc) they provide a quick and friendly customer service
      2. Its hard to compare the efficiency of such a service e.g will I get better rankings if I use
      articlebot or UAW etc. - At the moment I try to figure out if Article Drip Robot is more efficient than DYA in terms of ranking/backlinks etc
      3. There are a lot of things I like about the service but imo they dont get their priorities straight (the proof reading and submitting process still takes too much time)

      But considering the low price of 19,99 and the amount of time it will save you - the service gets my recommendation!
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  • Profile picture of the author YanKirby
    I have to say ive tried most of the article submission services enough to know how much submissions is enough and how much will get your site deindexed (yes, tested and confirmed on three sites and all of them sandboxed with the same number of submissions).

    Regarding which to use, I would highly suggest you figure out a budget and stick with that. Test a service one at a time so you'll know how much weight each one gives you.

    If youre looking to go for the cheapest, go for free traffic system which is free. From there, go for AMA or UAW.

    So far, UAW gives me the utmost results by any measure. Im keeping AMA though as they are for long term submissions.

    Hope this helps.
    -Yan Kirby
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    • Profile picture of the author areaK
      Originally Posted by YanKirby View Post

      I have to say ive tried most of the article submission services enough to know how much submissions is enough and how much will get your site deindexed (yes, tested and confirmed on three sites and all of them sandboxed with the same number of submissions).

      Regarding which to use, I would highly suggest you figure out a budget and stick with that. Test a service one at a time so you'll know how much weight each one gives you.

      If youre looking to go for the cheapest, go for free traffic system which is free. From there, go for AMA or UAW.

      So far, UAW gives me the utmost results by any measure. Im keeping AMA though as they are for long term submissions.

      Hope this helps.
      -Yan Kirby
      I'd love to know what that figure is? And was article marketing the only thing you were doing on those sites (that got sandboxed) and were you putting up new content or were they just one page sites that had a large number of article submissions done, etc. Just curious, we've done some pretty aggressive campaigns and climbed the ranks without any sandboxing issues so, again, just curious to know the stats.

      Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author landonwiggs
      some of the article submission sites allow you top span out the article submissions over time making it more SEO friendly. Did you try directory submissions, press releases, traffic geyser, blog comments, forum posting and other methods of building backlinks?

      Im sure if i had a domain with an article on it, submitted my article with my main keyword as my anchor text and didnt vary my anchor text to make it seem more natural, I wouldnt get great results.

      SEO is like having a well balanced diet. you cant eat green beans all day every day and expect to be healthy!

      try adding some different backlink building techniques in your campaigns. shoot what do i know haha


      Originally Posted by YanKirby View Post

      I have to say ive tried most of the article submission services enough to know how much submissions is enough and how much will get your site deindexed (yes, tested and confirmed on three sites and all of them sandboxed with the same number of submissions).

      Regarding which to use, I would highly suggest you figure out a budget and stick with that. Test a service one at a time so you'll know how much weight each one gives you.

      If youre looking to go for the cheapest, go for free traffic system which is free. From there, go for AMA or UAW.

      So far, UAW gives me the utmost results by any measure. Im keeping AMA though as they are for long term submissions.

      Hope this helps.
      -Yan Kirby
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      • Profile picture of the author areaK
        Originally Posted by landonwiggs View Post

        some of the article submission sites allow you top span out the article submissions over time making it more SEO friendly. Did you try directory submissions, press releases, traffic geyser, blog comments, forum posting and other methods of building backlinks?

        Im sure if i had a domain with an article on it, submitted my article with my main keyword as my anchor text and didnt vary my anchor text to make it seem more natural, I wouldnt get great results.

        SEO is like having a well balanced diet. you cant eat green beans all day every day and expect to be healthy!

        try adding some different backlink building techniques in your campaigns. shoot what do i know haha
        Exactly, you need to have a mix of links and varying your anchor text a bit here and there. But with article sites, not all of them are going to approve your article at the same time. There are some that approve immediately, some that approve within a day or two and some that take a week or so and even some that can take a little longer so it's not like if you submit 200 articles, the links will likely all appear, or be picked up by SEs, on the same day anyways.
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        • Profile picture of the author landonwiggs
          so even if there wasnt a feature thjat would let you submit articles over time, it doesnt matter because the articles arent indexed and accepted all at the same time? You can blast out 500 submissions, but not all of those will index and be accepted the same day. gotchya

          Originally Posted by areaK View Post

          Exactly, you need to have a mix of links and varying your anchor text a bit here and there. But with article sites, not all of them are going to approve your article at the same time. There are some that approve immediately, some that approve within a day or two and some that take a week or so and even some that can take a little longer so it's not like if you submit 200 articles, the links will likely all appear, or be picked up by SEs, on the same day anyways.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by YanKirby View Post

      I have to say ive tried most of the article submission services enough to know how much submissions is enough and how much will get your site deindexed (yes, tested and confirmed on three sites and all of them sandboxed with the same number of submissions).
      I am sorry but syndication will not get you de-indexed... Did you ever think maybe it was the site you was using ? Did you ever think maybe you did something else...

      Building 10,000 backlinks in a week will not get you de-indexed and yes that is proven by "MANY" and not just me. Please submit a press release and pay PRWeb $300 and see do you not get 1,000's of backlinks in hours..

      It's a shame most people are seriously clueless about Article Marketing, not saying you are but after reading this thread I can tell many have no clue as to how to do "True Article Marketing" ...

      James
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
        Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

        I am sorry but syndication will not get you de-indexed... Did you ever think maybe it was the site you was using ? Did you ever think maybe you did something else...
        The discussion was about distribution/submission services like UAW...wait, do they do pretty much the same thing? If so, that would mean.....

        Anyway, I've tried quite a few of the submission services UAW, Content Crooner, Isnare, SYA, and pretty much any other one you can think of.

        The key to using these services is velocity and variety

        When you sign up to any service that distributes your articles, you want to make sure that your efforts are consistent. What I mean is, if you blast out 10 articles today to a list of 1,000 article directories, pretty much all of your links will be found in a couple of weeks, and then the links stop coming in...NO GOOD.

        With services like The Best Article Marketing & Article Submission Service and Link Racer - Index and a couple of other ones, you can get your articles drip fed to a certain number of directories per day. So, say you write and submit 10 articles, start the submissions at 2 week intervals, and with a service like UAW set your articles to be submitted to 20 directories a day....

        Now you have your content going to 20 sites a day, giving you links to be found constantly for a 5 month period based on the 10 article example I gave earlier. Even after the 5 months is up, you will still have links being found for 30 - 60 days to come.

        When you use submission/ syndication you have to have some sort of plan in mind when doing so, or you are pretty much just wasting your time.

        At any given time, we have at least 15 articles scheduled through UAW and another 20 or so ready to be drip fed at LinkRacer. There isn't a single day that goes by that we don't have links out there being discovered from our content, and our position in the SERPS is constantly increasing because we are consistent, and offer the search engines a variety of places to find out links.

        You can also use one time payment solutions like ArticleBot to accomplish the same thing, if you are willing to forgo the drip feeding, and load content daily to be submitted, which is definitely something that people on a budget should consider.
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        • Profile picture of the author landonwiggs
          yes thats perfect, i will check out those services because thats exactly what im looking for. something SEO friendly that 'drip feeds' the articles. thanks!


          Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

          The discussion was about distribution/submission services like UAW...wait, do they do pretty much the same thing? If so, that would mean.....

          Anyway, I've tried quite a few of the submission services UAW, Content Crooner, Isnare, SYA, and pretty much any other one you can think of.

          The key to using these services is velocity and variety

          When you sign up to any service that distributes your articles, you want to make sure that your efforts are consistent. What I mean is, if you blast out 10 articles today to a list of 1,000 article directories, pretty much all of your links will be found in a couple of weeks, and then the links stop coming in...NO GOOD.

          With services like The Best Article Marketing & Article Submission Service and Link Racer - Index and a couple of other ones, you can get your articles drip fed to a certain number of directories per day. So, say you write and submit 10 articles, start the submissions at 2 week intervals, and with a service like UAW set your articles to be submitted to 20 directories a day....

          Now you have your content going to 20 sites a day, giving you links to be found constantly for a 5 month period based on the 10 article example I gave earlier. Even after the 5 months is up, you will still have links being found for 30 - 60 days to come.

          When you use submission/ syndication you have to have some sort of plan in mind when doing so, or you are pretty much just wasting your time.

          At any given time, we have at least 15 articles scheduled through UAW and another 20 or so ready to be drip fed at LinkRacer. There isn't a single day that goes by that we don't have links out there being discovered from our content, and our position in the SERPS is constantly increasing because we are consistent, and offer the search engines a variety of places to find out links.

          You can also use one time payment solutions like ArticleBot to accomplish the same thing, if you are willing to forgo the drip feeding, and load content daily to be submitted, which is definitely something that people on a budget should consider.
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          • Profile picture of the author Daryl24
            Thanks Jeremy

            I have Articlebot and that sounds like a terrific plan.
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  • Profile picture of the author landonwiggs
    and what is "true article marketing" ?
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by landonwiggs View Post

      and what is "true article marketing" ?
      I can assure you it has nothing to do with Mass Submitting to a bunch of low level article directories and blogs ... Especially when someone thinks because they submitted 500 articles then they have 500 backlinks. Fact is you can mass submit to 500 article directories and blogs and have only 10 backlinks...

      James
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      • Profile picture of the author JasonB
        Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

        I can assure you it has nothing to do with Mass Submitting to a bunch of low level article directories and blogs ... Especially when someone thinks because they submitted 500 articles then they have 500 backlinks. Fact is you can mass submit to 500 article directories and blogs and have only 10 backlinks...

        James
        I will have to agree with you on this one... Most of the time it depends on the niche your articles are supporting..

        I used to use ArticleMarketers.com, then they broke off into 2 different companies. ContentCrooner and DistributeYourArticles. ArticleMarketer would provide 1 distribution to over 800 directories on any given niche on average, but I was only seeing about 100 backlinks from that distribution. While 100 backlinks is not bad from 1 article, it definitely wasn't a strong enough effect, considering the article was on 800 directories or more.

        So now, I'm in the same boat as the OP - Which software, if any, is a reliable one to distribute articles for both traffic and backlinks?
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        • Profile picture of the author landonwiggs
          well if 1 article only got you 100 backlinks, why not submit 10 articles and have them deep linked to different pages on your site? that would be a much better approach instead of have 1 article and 100 backlinks to your domain. so 10 articles, 10 pages, each targeting a related sub keyword of your main keyword you'd like to rank for, and submit a few articles just pointing to your domain with your main keyword anchor text and also the directory submissions pointing to your domain with a few main keyword variations.



          Originally Posted by GuruCreation View Post

          I will have to agree with you on this one... Most of the time it depends on the niche your articles are supporting..

          I used to use ArticleMarketers.com, then they broke off into 2 different companies. ContentCrooner and DistributeYourArticles. ArticleMarketer would provide 1 distribution to over 800 directories on any given niche on average, but I was only seeing about 100 backlinks from that distribution. While 100 backlinks is not bad from 1 article, it definitely wasn't a strong enough effect, considering the article was on 800 directories or more.

          So now, I'm in the same boat as the OP - Which software, if any, is a reliable one to distribute articles for both traffic and backlinks?
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    Bill Platt... No software can do what he does for you 142 Most Recent Articles Written By: Bill Platt
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  • Profile picture of the author landonwiggs
    this thread isnt about "true article marketing" it's about getting backlinks and SEO. the whole point is to get backlinks from a veriety of sources, even if it is only 10 backlinks, and a lot of the times it's a lot more than 10. Directory submissions are more powerful in terms of SEO than article submissions anyways. I would always submit my content to the top 5 article websites manually like EZA and Buzzle and places like that. if you have 5 articles thats 25 high pr backlinks just right there. Im not sure why you're saying none of us know 'true article marketing' when that isnt the point of this thread.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Best Article Distribution Service
      Tells me it is about Article Marketing ...

      I would always submit my content to the top 5 article websites manually like EZA and Buzzle and places like that. if you have 5 articles thats 25 high pr backlinks just right there.
      Huh ? Ok and just where do you get High PR backlinks ? Fact is your article most of the time will be on a PR0 page.. So that is not High PR Backlinks, besides the point PR has nothing to do with your rankings.

      The article directory main page may be a PR 6 or something but those new articles you posted are not.

      Originally Posted by landonwiggs View Post

      this thread isnt about "true article marketing" it's about getting backlinks and SEO. the whole point is to get backlinks from a veriety of sources, even if it is only 10 backlinks, and a lot of the times it's a lot more than 10. Directory submissions are more powerful in terms of SEO than article submissions anyways.
      I see nothing in the OP about "backlinks from a veriety of sources".. If you are using articles for the sole purpose to get "backlinks" then you are leaving money on the table and not doing "True Article Marketing".

      I love those that teach about "submit your articles to thousands of article directories and blogs" ... Although they should be ashamed for teaching such useless crap to people but that's IM for you ....

      James
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      • Profile picture of the author landonwiggs
        high QUALITY link, excuse me i should've clarified. PR does not pass you are correct.

        I don't submit crappy articles to a bunch of directories just for backlinks. I submit quality content that maybe presells the customer or leaves them wanting more so they click thru to my site. Customer and their needs come first always before SEO. Would anyone want to click thru to my site if my content sucked and i was distributing crappy articles JUST for backlinks? a lot of traffic can come from articles so of course the content has to be high quality. It just sounded like a snobby rude comment to say that obviously no one knows about "real article marketing" and it sounded like you're the only one who knows about it. sounds like you just underestimate everyone.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
          Originally Posted by landonwiggs View Post

          high QUALITY link, excuse me i should've clarified. PR does not pass you are correct.
          You're wasting your time arguing with him. He already thinks you are an idiot, and that his skills are far superior to any that you might possess. I'm doing you a favor here by telling you to save your breath.

          Originally Posted by landonwiggs View Post

          I don't submit crappy articles to a bunch of directories just for backlinks. I submit quality content that maybe presells the customer or leaves them wanting more so they click thru to my site.
          You do that even when you mass distribute content?

          My only question is, why?

          When you do a mass submission, distribution, syndication, or whatever we are calling it today, chances are good that your article will NEVER be read by even a single person on 98% of the directories that your article gets published on.

          In my experience at least, direct traffic isn't a benefit of mass article distribution. The biggest benefit is the results that can be gained SEO wise through getting your website ranked higher due to the backlinks that are accrued through consistent submissions.

          Only on a few Article directories such as EZA, ArticleBase, GoARticles, and a few others does your article even stand a chance of ranking naturally on the first page of Google for any keyword that is even remotely competitive in nature.

          I'm not saying to submit junk, but there is no way in hell that I would sit down for an hour to write some killer content to submit to a bunch of directories who for the most part exist in many cases to get your name and email on a list so that they can sell you internet marketing products.
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          • Profile picture of the author landonwiggs
            If i'm paying 10 bucks for an article from getarticlesdone.com, have them write one article and 2 rewrites of it. it's 10 bucks, good content and I dont have any problems submitting that. even though like you said 98% of those people won't see it, I'd rather submit something good for 2%, then something crappy for those 2% who see it. and I agree, the main benefit is really your SEO results, not the 2%, but hey i have 2 rewrites i might as well use them for something.


            Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

            You're wasting your time arguing with him. He already thinks you are an idiot, and that his skills are far superior to any that you might possess. I'm doing you a favor here by telling you to save your breath.



            You do that even when you mass distribute content?

            My only question is, why?

            When you do a mass submission, distribution, syndication, or whatever we are calling it today, chances are good that your article will NEVER be read by even a single person on 98% of the directories that your article gets published on.

            In my experience at least, direct traffic isn't a benefit of mass article distribution. The biggest benefit is the results that can be gained SEO wise through getting your website ranked higher due to the backlinks that are accrued through consistent submissions.

            Only on a few Article directories such as EZA, ArticleBase, GoARticles, and a few others does your article even stand a chance of ranking naturally on the first page of Google for any keyword that is even remotely competitive in nature.

            I'm not saying to submit junk, but there is no way in hell that I would sit down for an hour to write some killer content to submit to a bunch of directories who for the most part exist in many cases to get your name and email on a list so that they can sell you internet marketing products.
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          • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
            Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

            You're wasting your time arguing with him. He already thinks you are an idiot, and that his skills are far superior to any that you might possess. I'm doing you a favor here by telling you to save your breath.
            Do not speak for me ... Because you have issues and think you are some kind of guru which you are not ...

            I was arguing with nobody but as normal some lame wannabe has to pop in a thread and attack someone.

            James
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          • Profile picture of the author areaK
            Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

            You're wasting your time arguing with him. He already thinks you are an idiot, and that his skills are far superior to any that you might possess. I'm doing you a favor here by telling you to save your breath.



            You do that even when you mass distribute content?

            My only question is, why?

            When you do a mass submission, distribution, syndication, or whatever we are calling it today, chances are good that your article will NEVER be read by even a single person on 98% of the directories that your article gets published on.

            In my experience at least, direct traffic isn't a benefit of mass article distribution. The biggest benefit is the results that can be gained SEO wise through getting your website ranked higher due to the backlinks that are accrued through consistent submissions.

            Only on a few Article directories such as EZA, ArticleBase, GoARticles, and a few others does your article even stand a chance of ranking naturally on the first page of Google for any keyword that is even remotely competitive in nature.

            I'm not saying to submit junk, but there is no way in hell that I would sit down for an hour to write some killer content to submit to a bunch of directories who for the most part exist in many cases to get your name and email on a list so that they can sell you internet marketing products.
            Agreed, the big thing for mass article distribution is to improve SEO...it WILL help. If you're going for click-throughs, as mentioned in my last post, there's a different strategy to be applied.
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        • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
          Originally Posted by landonwiggs View Post

          It just sounded like a snobby rude comment to say that obviously no one knows about "real article marketing" and it sounded like you're the only one who knows about it. sounds like you just underestimate everyone.
          Not being rude but going by your OP

          I tried distributeyourarticles.com and didnt really see great results, does anyone have any companies they prefer to use to distribute their articles?
          You are depending upon someone to submit to article direcories and blogs and that is it ...What these services will not tell you is that submitting to such places are not as effective as they make it seem. You must have found that out yourself, otherwise you would not had started this thread.

          Many fall for these services and think that this is all they must do because these services make you think that.

          - Where are the backlinks to your articles coming from (not from your articles) ?
          - Who is submitting your rss feeds on those places ?
          - How are you creating cross linking when you do not know the url's to cross link because you are not submitting ?
          - Ok lets assume you can login these sites after you submit and edit to add cross links... Well then you should have saved your money and just submitted it manually to begin with.

          I could go on with this list but I think you see what I am saying here... Again not being rude but pointing out the obvious.

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          • Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

            Not being rude but going by your OP



            You are depending upon someone to submit to article direcories and blogs and that is it ...What these services will not tell you is that submitting to such places are not as effective as they make it seem. You must have found that out yourself, otherwise you would not had started this thread.

            Many fall for these services and think that this is all they must do because these services make you think that.

            - Where are the backlinks to your articles coming from (not from your articles) ?
            - Who is submitting your rss feeds on those places ?
            - How are you creating cross linking when you do not know the url's to cross link because you are not submitting ?
            - Ok lets assume you can login these sites after you submit and edit to add cross links... Well then you should have saved your money and just submitted it manually to begin with.

            I could go on with this list but I think you see what I am saying here... Again not being rude but pointing out the obvious.

            James
            that's why I cancelled UAW..it's not been effective and thought it was overated

            I rather semi-automate submit my articles myself so I know what's exactly going on
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            • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
              Originally Posted by AllThingsArePossible View Post

              that's why I cancelled UAW..it's not been effective and thought it was overated

              I rather semi-automate submit my articles myself so I know what's exactly going on
              Exactly they are overrated and overpriced but the sad part is most do not even realize it until they spend that money.

              If I know where my stuff is and it is instantly approved (the sites I deal with are) then I can create my cross links right there and bookmark right there on the spot, then move on to the next...

              James
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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
    I agree, if you are going to mass submit, then mass submit your lesser quality stuff. That can increase your rankings and traffic for sure.

    BUT...

    that doesn't mean that you shouldn't create killer stuff and get it strategically placed on the Internet as well. That's where I seem to increase the sales - which is why we're all here, right?

    So a well thought out combination of the two, mixed with a pinch of this and a dash of that, can do wonders.

    But then again, what do Jeremy and I know, we're just a couple of fly-by-night "self proclaimed" wannabe experts...or something like that. :rolleyes: LOL

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  • Profile picture of the author landonwiggs
    Anyways, I think i was frustrated with that service because they only submitted my article to 127 directories which was far less than what i thought it was. I think those services are effective, but like 'jeremy kelsall' said, it needs to be seo friendly and maybe submitted more articles would be helpful and deep linking to your website. I want to try out some different services and find the best one and I think UAW is one i should try, but that was the main point of this thread, not to get into a long discussion about tons of other things. simple.


    Why would you want to cross link to your submitted articles? is this for 3 and 4 way links? I also said either on this thread or another thread i'd like to get a list of urls but that is unlikely because some accept articles days after submissions. too hard to track
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    • Profile picture of the author JasonB
      Originally Posted by landonwiggs View Post

      I want to try out some different services and find the best one and I think UAW is one i should try, but that was the main point of this thread, not to get into a long discussion about tons of other things.
      I agree with you here... I think I'm going to give them a shot as well..

      I also use Isnare too, but it looks like they are no good from what I read in this thread - as well as ContentCrooner.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      Originally Posted by landonwiggs View Post

      Anyways, I think i was frustrated with that service because they only submitted my article to 127 directories which was far less than what i thought it was.
      Many of the mass distribution services will only submit your content to directories that have a category that is appropriate for your article. So, if you are being really specific instead of thinking of your content in a broad sense, you severely restrict the number of directories that your content could have gone to.
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      • Profile picture of the author landonwiggs
        so to increase the number of submissions, broaded up the category? so if your niche is bacterial vaginosis cures (lol i know), then maybe just do womens health, instead of trying to narrow it down?

        Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

        Many of the mass distribution services will only submit your content to directories that have a category that is appropriate for your article. So, if you are being really specific instead of thinking of your content in a broad sense, you severely restrict the number of directories that your content could have gone to.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
          Originally Posted by landonwiggs View Post

          so to increase the number of submissions, broaded up the category? so if your niche is bacterial vaginosis cures (lol i know), then maybe just do womens health, instead of trying to narrow it down?
          Yes! The only reason to really narrow down the category is in the hopes that someone goes to the directory, goes to that category, and looks for content on that subject.

          Luckily, we know that most of the directories will never see the first 100 pages of google, so it really doesn't matter what category the article is in.

          Hand submit to the top directories, and then blast away to the rest.
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          • Profile picture of the author AshleyBirkhold
            Go for Unique Article Wizard ($67 per month) to help distribute your articles to many directories at once

            and

            MAX (My Article Express) if you're drawing a blank and you need an article written for you. Within 3 days they can give you 3 different articles with 25 unique titles and 40 resource boxes for about $16.95. Just be clear on how you want the tone of your article to be and EXACTLY what you want it to be about- and I mean exactly!

            You can even combine the 2 services together. MAX will give you the format for Unique Article Wizard and you can submit it directly from MAX!

            Good Luck!
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            • Profile picture of the author jerdude
              @TheRichJerksNet, I totally get where you're going and I really appreciate your advice. But for now, with the amount of funds and time I have, an article distributing service which drip feeds my articles is still my best option, even if I get only 10-20 backlinks that stick.

              @tpw, thanks for your insightful reply. Just to put EVERYTHING to rest once and for all, can I say that SYA is the only worthwhile article distribution service around right now? To put it in a less hurtful way, would you recommend SYA over other link building services like UAW, MAN, AMA, 1waylinks, linkvana etc?
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              • Profile picture of the author tpw
                Originally Posted by jerdude View Post

                @TheRichJerksNet, I totally get where you're going and I really appreciate your advice. But for now, with the amount of funds and time I have, an article distributing service which drip feeds my articles is still my best option, even if I get only 10-20 backlinks that stick.

                @tpw, thanks for your insightful reply. Just to put EVERYTHING to rest once and for all, can I say that SYA is the only worthwhile article distribution service around right now? To put it in a less hurtful way, would you recommend SYA over other link building services like UAW, MAN, AMA, 1waylinks, linkvana etc?

                p.s. I did not mention in my post, but my service does employ a certain level of drip-feed in the distribution process. Generally, it does take up to 30-35 days for an article to be fully rolled out.


                "can I say that SYA is the only worthwhile article distribution service around right now?"

                Only if you insist on saying that my article distribution service is not worthwhile...

                You can say what you want, and I will choose to disagree with you...

                I cannot speak to the value, or lack thereof, of some of the programs you mentioned...
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            • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
              And when 400 of those article directories go out of business, guess what that does to your backlinks ??? Many of those article direcories will be out of business before the end of this year.

              Why people want to continue to waste their money on low level article directories that are useless is beyond me..

              But hey, it's your money, It's your time, and It's your business...

              James

              P.S. Those that do not go out of business will be forced out of business when CSS 3, HTML5, AND PHP6 is finally fully released because their scripts will no longer functions without being recoded.

              Originally Posted by AshleyBirkhold View Post

              Go for Unique Article Wizard ($67 per month) to help distribute your articles to many directories at once

              and

              MAX (My Article Express) if you're drawing a blank and you need an article written for you. Within 3 days they can give you 3 different articles with 25 unique titles and 40 resource boxes for about $16.95. Just be clear on how you want the tone of your article to be and EXACTLY what you want it to be about- and I mean exactly!

              You can even combine the 2 services together. MAX will give you the format for Unique Article Wizard and you can submit it directly from MAX!

              Good Luck!
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        • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
          Originally Posted by landonwiggs View Post

          so to increase the number of submissions, broaded up the category? so if your niche is bacterial vaginosis cures (lol i know), then maybe just do womens health, instead of trying to narrow it down?
          I think that Womens Health would defintely be better than whatever other category you could choose.

          Take a tour of a few of the popular article directories and you'll quickly see the main categories that are pretty much "industry standard."

          Over time, you'll also start to see which ones get more traffic than the other - for instance, a general "health & fitness" category may or may not get more traffic than "womens health."

          Listen to others who have been there...to get a general direction. But you have to listen to your own experience and research in order to pinpoint your ideal path.

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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by landonwiggs View Post

      Why would you want to cross link to your submitted articles? is this for 3 and 4 way links? I also said either on this thread or another thread i'd like to get a list of urls but that is unlikely because some accept articles days after submissions. too hard to track
      Cross linking the proper way and using the proper sites can increase your traffic drastically.. Sure you can post to 500 article directories and blogs. While you do that I can take one article and manually post it on a few sites and do cross linking and see even more traffic..

      Nothing wrong with mass submitters if that is your thing, but as you said yourself you seen no results.... Thus I would think you would want to change the tactic you are using and not use the same tactic with just another site.

      If you do the same thing tomorrow as you did today then you will see the same results...

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      • Profile picture of the author landonwiggs
        I think it was the niche I was in, and I wasnt seeing results because the article directories didnt have that category. I will still try with aubmission services, but change my strategy a bit. to be honest, my main concern is SEO benfit. when i get my site ranked first on google, I think i will take a look at some other advanced strategies like the one you mention here about cross linking.

        Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

        Nothing wrong with mass submitters if that is your thing, but as you said yourself you seen no results.... Thus I would think you would want to change the tactic you are using and not use the same tactic with just another site.

        If you do the same thing tomorrow as you did today then you will see the same results...

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        • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
          Originally Posted by landonwiggs View Post

          I think it was the niche I was in, and I wasnt seeing results because the article directories didnt have that category. I will still try with aubmission services, but change my strategy a bit. to be honest, my main concern is SEO benfit. when i get my site ranked first on google, I think i will take a look at some other advanced strategies like the one you mention here about cross linking.
          I doubt it was the niche you are in, I would bet it is the sites that the articles are submitted to. I would not say this if I did not pay for and test submityourarticles, articlemarketer, uniquearticlewizard, myarticlenetwork and etc...

          You are looking for SEO benefit but what you do not understand is that by submitting to 1,000 sites and those site owners do not even understand how to market, how does that help you in SEO ??

          Sure there are many that do understand how to market but we must face reality, many of those article directories are nothing more than adsense farms and many of them the owners do not know how to market, thus why you never see any low level article directory listings in search results and why they get very little traffic.

          James
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          • Profile picture of the author JasonB
            Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

            I would not say this if I did not pay for and test submityourarticles, articlemarketer, uniquearticlewizard, myarticlenetwork and etc...

            James
            Hey James,

            So what do you recommend?

            If the above are really no good then, I'm going to assume that you have tried and tested ArticleBot, SEO Elite, SEnuke, DistributYourArticles and so-on?

            I'm sure some of those have value, whether they are of great value or no value at all, I don't know because I haven't tried them.

            There is just way too much to choose from, so much damn hype to go by and if you don't have the money to try them out, you get stuck with what "You think works" - which probably doesn't work. Can't afford to be bouncing around all the time - You know what I mean?

            I use Isnare, EZA and ContentCrooner, which I see a good amount of traffic and clickthroughs form Isnare - and really only use CC for backlinks as well as EZA.

            WTH am I missing here?

            And what do you think??
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            • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
              There is much many miss but it's unfortunate I can only say so much also.. I will tell you I bought some of those PutYourNameHereBot softwares and there is no way I would recommend them, I also joined and checked out SENuke, again no way would I spend $127 every month.

              I have spent thousands of dollars on testing and thousands of hours testing. Personally I can't stand hype and nothing I ever sell or promote has any hype involved. I will tell you like it is straight up what something does or does not do.

              With that said the best I could do is direct you back to this post by Mark - http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post1949241

              James



              Originally Posted by GuruCreation View Post

              Hey James,

              So what do you recommend?

              If the above are really no good then, I'm going to assume that you have tried and tested ArticleBot, SEO Elite, SEnuke, DistributYourArticles and so-on?

              I'm sure some of those have value, whether they are of great value or no value at all, I don't know because I haven't tried them.

              There is just way too much to choose from, so much damn hype to go by and if you don't have the money to try them out, you get stuck with what "You think works" - which probably doesn't work. Can't afford to be bouncing around all the time - You know what I mean?

              I use Isnare, EZA and ContentCrooner, which I see a good amount of traffic and clickthroughs form Isnare - and really only use CC for backlinks as well as EZA.

              WTH am I missing here?

              And what do you think??
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonB
    Geez, what's happening here? I'm in the same boat as the OP of this thread...

    "Best Article Distribution Service?"
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  • Profile picture of the author areaK
    There's a never ending debate on tactics, strategies, opinions and "facts" (please stress the quote around "facts"). There are tons of people with varying viewpoints so some will have to agree to disagree.

    I don't have the energy to write a page on this topic right now...what I'll say is articles are still good for backlinks and they 'can' be good for click-throughs done correctly. If you tell me they're not good for backlinks, I'll tell you KISS MY....been doing it long enough to SEE the backlinks from them; if you're not trying to tell me that, then *hugs*.

    If you think you can't get backlinks from article submissions (more than 10 in less than 500 submissions) do a Yahoo link search on Local Business Search Marketing where you will see multiple links from the following article directories:

    sooper articles
    article alley
    article feeder
    articles base
    article buster
    article blast
    article cube
    expert articles
    article biz
    article dashboard
    a1 articles
    article nexus
    article pool
    amazines
    365 articles
    webslingas
    the free library
    ezine articles
    article show

    That's almost 20 different article sites (I didn't have time to study each link just now (well I don't have the patience to do it just for the sake of this argument I should say) so there could be more but I know there are links from those and I know there are multiple links from most of them, even up to probably as many as 10 from several of them...if someone wants to count, go ahead but I don't have the dedication to count them all right now out of almost 2k links (the majority of which my team built).

    ...and you WILL also see links from articles posted on blogs too.

    Some ppl say blog commenting isn't as effective for BLs anymore, some say article posting isn't, some say putting up blogs isn't, some say bookmarking isn't (which it's not AS effective anymore but you can still get some links out of it as you'll also see with that campaign which had very little bookmarking done for it) but, again we built most of those links, and we did it all with blog commenting, article distribution, blog creation, a teeny tiny amount of bookmarking, a teeny tiny amount of video distribution and some website building. So, again, it's just the same ol' expert debate as always...and as always will be.

    With that said, it is possible that you won't get a backlink from every article to every directory out there, yes but don't go having people believe it's a total waste of time because that's not true.

    If some1 submits 500 articles, they should get more than 10 links although they may not get 500, true...in my experience at least. ...there weren't anywhere near 500 articles submitted for that site, not even close to half that but there are more than 10 backlinks from them...clickthrough rate, not sure offhand but I know they had some clickthroughs and DLs for republishing.

    Now you can take 2 different approaches to article marketing YES...you can take the 'I primarily want backlinks to increase my search engine rankings' or the 'I primarily want to do article marketing for click-throughs' ...well, or even the 'I want to primarily increase SE rank but I also 'hope' for some clickthroughs and each has a bit of a different approach in strategy to it.

    My 2 cents...opinions are like....you know the rest ; )
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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
    Nice post areaK.

    I like your attitude a lot.

    But you know what I liked the most? You gave a real-life example - something that other people around here never do.

    Giving an example will help marketers, of many different levels, better see what you are saying or trying to get across. Many times just being able to go away, take all the time needed, and check out an example like this could spark someones mind into "getting it."

    NOT giving an example, at least every once in a while, makes you look like you are full of crap.

    Keep 'em coming!

    Thanks,
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  • Profile picture of the author JMPruitt
    Hmm.. well James can't say much more than what he has because he is just too modest. Check out his site Article Productions. It is more than just an article directory. I wont even take a chance on putting a link in here, just check out his sig file.
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    • Profile picture of the author JasonB
      Originally Posted by JMPruitt View Post

      Hmm.. well James can't say much more than what he has because he is just too modest. Check out his site Article Productions. It is more than just an article directory. I wont even take a chance on putting a link in here, just check out his sig file.
      Yeah, I'm completely sure of this.

      James S. has helped me out with quite a few things, whether it was by PM or by me just reading his posts and input on certain subjects. Thanks! I will check out AP now.

      Now, James P,

      I read something somewhere that made we want to ask you if you use any article marketing distribution software's or sites?
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  • Profile picture of the author eQuus
    Apart from a little unpleasantness, this has been a highly informative thread. Thank you all.
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  • Profile picture of the author JMPruitt
    I have before, I use a blog Network from time to time, but mostly I do manual submissions. I quit wasting my time with article submitters when I realized that quality was more important than quantity in article marketing.

    Of course, it helps that I have a disabled ex school teacher working for me. She sits at home, proofreads my meager writing skills, and then sits there and watches tv while she copies and pastes articles into the directories for me.

    When I started online, I listened to too many people telling me to buy this or that. In the end, I have found that spending a little more time, and taking less shortcuts works out better in the end. The shortcuts are nice, but taking the time to do it right pays off better. I make more money since I realized that. and the funny thing is, I work less too...
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  • Profile picture of the author JonAlfredsson
    Hi,

    Aside from article directories - you may use these:

    1) Unique article wizard
    2) AMA - Article Marketing Automation
    3) Free Traffic System
    4) Isnare
    5) my article network

    If you want articles submitted to article directories fact, you may also use viral submitter or article mass submitter.
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    • Profile picture of the author JasonB
      Originally Posted by JonAlfredsson View Post

      Hi,

      Aside from article directories - you may use these:

      1) Unique article wizard
      2) AMA - Article Marketing Automation
      3) Free Traffic System
      4) Isnare
      5) my article network

      If you want articles submitted to article directories fact, you may also use viral submitter or article mass submitter.
      Jon,

      Thanks for your input on this, but that's exaclty what "WE'RE" or "I'M" trying to steer away from.. They just don't seem to be getting the job done. They work, but I know there has to be a much better way of going about getting traffic, building backlinks and climbing the SERPs.

      I have been at the top before, on Google, but I let my site rot, because of some DumbAce hackers. So, I know article marketing works, but I'm looking for authority rather than quantity. I'm not necessarily looking for the quick way out, but I'm looking for something a little easier than what I'm doing now with better and "GREAT RESULTS."

      I keep hearing that I should outsource my backlink building and article marketing, but the fact of the matter is, that gets expensive.

      So, I'm looking for honest opinions and results to help better the truth of "Article Marketing" really works, if done properly.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    I'd like to thank everyone who mentioned my service.

    I'd also like to thank those who have contrary opinions... Hey Jeremy and Allen... It is great to see the both of you here...

    Do I agree with Jeremy and Allen all the time? Certainly not, but that is okay...

    Some article distribution services rest on their laurels of "We will send your article to X number of websites." In most cases, what they mean to say is that they will send your articles to article directories.

    On my last count, there were 1200+ article directories online... Article directories in most cases require manual approval of articles... Allen can verify this fact... James also can verify this statement... Even Jeremy can verify that information...

    I used to submit articles to a lot of article directories. I built software exclusively for that purpose... But different from most article distribution software packages, I tracked how many of those directories were actually approving the articles sent to them... But after using my article directory submitter for several years, I discovered (in 2007) with the upgrade that tracked how often those article directories were approving articles that out of 1100 Article Directories:

    * Fewer than 80 were approving articles within 90 days;

    * Fewer than 40 were approving articles within 30 days; and

    * Fewer than 20 were approving articles within one week.

    I have a running list of article directories available on one of my websites: 1234 Known Article Directories Accepting Articles From The Public - from Tech Central Publishing

    On this list is 1200+ article directories, and the list was 100% up-to-date in Nov 2009. I just pulled the list to help prove my point here... Of the first ten article directories on the list, six of them are DEAD!!!!

    That is a whopping 60% of the first ten on the list that have gone under in the last 6 months!! And this is not an uncommon occurrence...

    The toughest thing about running an article distribution service is keeping your submission list up-to-date. This challenge is even more difficult if you rely upon article directories to submit your articles... My article distribution service does not rely on article directories at all...

    I see it as kind of pointless to spend extra time chasing placement on websites that I know will likely be gone in six months... The vast majority of article directory owners simply have an article directory, because someone told them they could generate adsense revenue from it... This majority of article directory owners will soon discover that an article directory is very hard work, with little revenue on the backside... Put yourselves in their shoes... If you spend 6 months building an article directory, and 6 months later, your monthly revenues do not exceed $100 month, how long are you going to keep running that website?

    Most article directory owners quit the game in only a couple months or weeks... They may leave the site up, but they certainly aren't going to bother with approving the articles submitted to it... Finally, when their prepaid hosting package runs out, they will let their article directory just fade away...

    After ten years serving this industry, I have learned that 80% to 90% of article directories will be gone within one years or two years, depending on how long its owner prepaid hosting costs...

    This is the primary reason why I treat article directories as the red-headed step children of article marketing... I am not going to waste my distribution time chasing the placement of articles on websites that do not have any real value in the short-term or staying power for the long-term... After all, once an article directory stops approving articles, the final outcome is already known... And unless you are tracking with precision which article directories are approving articles and which ones are not, you could literally be wasting far too much of your time, trying to get links where you cannot get links...

    I could make a big deal suggesting that I would send your article to 1200 article directories, but in my book, that would be selling a lie...

    It would be selling a lie, because I know that of the 1200+ article directories online in Nov 2009:

    * Most of the article directories will be out-of-business in less than one year;

    * Fewer than 100 are approving articles within 90 days.

    Of those approving articles:

    * A large number of them are not getting full crawls by Google;

    * Even more of them do not have any actual readers - their only visitors are people promoting articles.

    * With no page views, there will be no click-throughs or SEO value.

    When there are no readers to your articles on the site AND no Google-recognition, the submission to that site is a total and complete waste of your time and my time.

    I could tell you all the things you want to hear, and I could sell more stuff... But I prefer sticking to giving you an honest assessment of the situation...

    I have built my article distribution service to pursue a different group of web publishers...

    I see the world through the eyes of two types of article distribution -- passive and pro-active...

    What I mean is to say that if you submit an article to an article directory, you are utilizing a "passive mode" of promoting your articles... The original concept of the article directory is to present your article to publishers who may want to republish your article... So in theory, you submit your article to the article directory, so that it can be found and published on other websites, once it is found... When your article is approved at the article directory, then your article sits and waits for publishers to find it, read it, and publish it... But on sites that accept hundreds of articles a day, your article quickly disappears into the bowels of the article directory, and depending on the article directory, potentially to never be seen again...

    I strive to utilize a "pro-active mode" of article marketing... Instead of waiting on online publishers to come to some website to find your article, my goal is to "directly reach out to the online publishers most likely to publish your articles"... And ask them to publish your article...

    It is a different approach, and it can produce exceptional results for the best authors... Our article distribution clients have notified us of having their articles picked up in sites like, Wall Street Journal Online, WebMD, and About.com. Few article distribution companies have our kind of track record in getting articles into some of the most respected websites and newsletters online...

    About 60% of newsletters publishers have online archives, so you really can get SEO value from a majority of newsletter websites. But generally, the big kick in newsletters is a captive audience of thousands of prospective customers reading your article on the day the newsletter publishes.

    For "my" articles, I strive for publication in newsletters first, websites second. I have seen a number of times that when my article is published in a respected newsletter, I can make a boatload of sales, as result of my article gaining publication in a large newsletter. If I make a number of sales as a result of getting published in a newsletter, then getting the SEO value from websites is a bonus, after I have been paid for creating the article to begin with... I aim for generating sales first and SEO second... In my world, article marketing should pay for itself, sooner rather than later...

    I have been doing this long enough to know that not every article will strike gold, but the odds are on my side... The best baseball player in history only hit the ball once for every three at-bats... Article marketing is not much different, but those homeruns can frequently pay for my article development and distribution for the next few months or year.

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    James is not wrong about article marketing, but Jeremy is not completely wrong either... Like James, I don't agree with a lot of the information that Jeremy puts out, but on the subject of article marketing, I have to give him credit, where credit is due... I purchased Jeremy's CPA Drifter program, and I found his approach to article marketing to be similar to my own, yet very different at the same time...

    In the article marketing arena, I primarily disagree with Jeremy about using article spinners to create content, but I have always been somewhat of an article marketing purist... If my name is going on an article, I want to be proud of what has been written... And I believe that by creating content that you are proud of putting your name on will give your articles more viral power -- in other words, I feel if the content is that good, the articles will attract more readers and publishers... But I digress...

    Without giving away all of the details of CPA Drifter...

    Jeremy goes with the approach of submitting his articles to score a top ten listing in Google for his target keywords... He does not worry about making his own site rank for top ten Google, but instead getting his article on some directory to rank in the top ten.

    Using the primary article directories to do this, Jeremy explains that he is riding on top of their earned credibility... That is fine, but then you have to look at what you are getting from those top listings...

    Ideally, you want click-through traffic or SEO value or both... But, most directories offer you neither...

    There was a time when you could count on click-through traffic from EzineArticles, but that is not so much the case anymore... EzineArticles has the article display page loaded down with 8 advertising boxes... Six of those are Google Adsense boxes...

    (Yes, it is against the Google Adsense TOS for you and I to have six Adsense boxes on a page, but EzineArticles.com has a special arrangement with Google to get special favor... If you have any doubt about that, then try to figure out why one of EzineArticles Adsense boxes have 18 ads in them...)

    At EzineArticles, you are fighting with 42 advertisements for the attention of the reader... See one of my articles there to verify what I am telling you: Five Essential Elements of Successful Article Marketing

    ArticlesBase.com does deliver a small measure of traffic from time to time, but all links are rel="nofollow", so you are not getting any SEO value from them at all.

    GoArticles.com and IdeaMarketers.com are also famous and trusted article directories, but they don't get the kind of respect from the search engines that you might expect them to get.

    I have one article I wrote in 2001 and put on the article directories in 2005 (not one of my better articles mind you) that has a decent footprint in Google: "temptations, white lies, sales and seeing eye dogs" - Google Search

    The same article pulls better results from Yahoo: "temptations, white lies, sales and seeing eye dogs" - Yahoo! Search Results

    On GoArticles, this article has been viewed 231 times in four years... On IdeaMarketers, it was viewed fewer times in the same four years...

    Although that article was distributed widely and can be seen on GoArticles and IdeaMarketers, if you navigate to them, neither directory shows up in Google for a search for that article... In GoArticles, that article is just one of 2.7 million articles... On IdeaMarketers, it is just one of about 1 million articles...

    If an article is on these popular directories, but no one can find it through navigation or a Google search, how will the article ever get viewed? It won't...

    Interestingly, the article directory connected to my article distribution service at ThePhantomWriters.com generates more page views than the same articles at EzineArticles.com. While it can be argued that EZA's traffic dwarfs my 22,000 unique visitors per month, the lower volume of articles at my site ensures that articles in my article directory will get more views.

    I put my last article into EZA first, then a few days later, I put it in my own website and distributed it...

    At EZA, it has had 41 views in the last three weeks: Five Essential Elements of Successful Article Marketing

    In my own article directory, it has had 184 views in the last 2-1/2 weeks: Article: 5 Essential Elements of Successful Article Marketing

    Of course, EZA would not let me publish it as I intended it... I had to reconstruct and eliminate one entire section of the article to pass the approval of their editors... Go figure...

    Either way, Jeremy has suggested that my approach to article marketing is wrong... But I am not one who uses "wide paint brushes"...

    When Jeremy's approach works, it can work well... When it doesn't work, it doesn't work at all... Like me, Jeremy is not hitting every ball out of the park... The same can be said of my approach...

    Honestly, in Friday Night Chat Jeremy played the devil's advocate with me... He would not out-and-out say that I was wrong, as he said about James here... But he did insist that using article spinners would achieve more diversity in Google placement... With less time invested... Jeremy also stated that the quality of the article is not as important as I say that it is...

    Jeremy and I disagree on some points, but that is okay... He has a right to be wrong... ;-) Just kidding...

    Yes, I do repurpose content from a customer support message to a FAQ page, to a blog post, then an article... Sometimes, I work it from a forum post such as this one, to a blog post, then an article for distribution... The main difference between Jeremy and myself is that I will not let a computer "rewrite" my content... I write it myself, every time...

    To get the complete details of Jeremy's article marketing strategy, you can get his CPA Drifter package here on the Warrior Forum...

    Jeremy's approach to getting an article into a top directory, in order to ride the directory's reputation to score a top ten listing for his keywords, is not very different from my own...

    I have articles in nearly every article directory currently available online, but I don't see a lot of traffic to my websites from article directories... I see the bulk of my traffic coming from niche websites that carry my articles... And a lot of those niche websites have awesome respect from Google...

    I agree with this approach in that I don't care what site a reader finds my article, so long as once they have read my article, they will want to visit my websites and buy what I am selling...

    I seldom give examples of my Google rankings, but I will here... So count yourself lucky...

    * Hit Google with "article marketing success" without the quotes, and the #1 listing is my article on someone else's website.

    * For "troubleshooting laptop battery", my article appears on HardwareHell.com at #5.

    * For the search "paid search advertising models", my article occupies #3, #4 and #10 spots in Google.

    * Switch the search phrase to "paid search models" without the quotes, and the same article falls into the #7 spot.

    * For "seo linking portfolio", my article is #1 in Google.

    * For the shorter "linking portfolio", my article is #3.

    * Search for "googlebomb update", and my article holds several top ten spots: #1, #5, #9 and #10.

    * Make Google Bomb two words, and my article is still top ten at #7.

    * Search for "one-way link back strategy" and my article falls in the #5 spot. Without the hyphen, it falls at #11.

    The previous listings are ones that point to one of my articles on someone else's website...

    This is important to this story, because Jeremy suggests that you need to submit your articles to article directories to so easily dominate Google Top Ten results for your target keywords. I think these examples should put that argument to rest. You can achieve the results that Jeremy suggests, but you don't have to rely on article directories to get there.

    You don't have to use article directories to reach this level of Google penetration, but you do need to find publication for your articles on respectable websites.

    In my belief, to get respect, you should show respect...

    In my belief, to get publication on top-tier websites, you have got to give them the quality of content that online publishers want to share with their readers...

    Article spinners, in my belief, leave you vulnerable to being ignored by the publishers you need to be successful with article marketing...

    Here is an example of one of my blog posts that has been linked from articles:

    * For "duplicate content penalty myth" without the quotes, you will find my blog post on the topic on Google at #4: Article Marketing and the Duplicate Content Penalty Myth

    This is sure to piss off some readers, I know, but I am not going to share my money pulling keywords and rankings... Deal with it...

    But, I will show you a page on my website that does not matter to me, although it gets a ton of traffic from its #4 listing in Google. The search phrase is "television manuals", without the quotes.

    For my "money phrases", I have a lot of #1 and page one search listings in Google for my main site, and also for a number of niche websites that I own... Unfortunately, you will have to take my word for that, although the above verifiable-examples should give you a clue that I am telling you the truth...

    At the end of this story, James, Allen, Jeremy and myself all utilize article marketing in one form or another to achieve our rankings in Google and to accelerate our income...

    None of us utilize article marketing in the same way... We all use our own systems and processes to see success with article marketing...

    And that is okay...

    We don't have to be carbon-copies of one another to make article marketing profitable...

    We are free to disagree with one another about how we want to do article marketing... We are also free to find different ways to make article marketing profitable for us... There is not a darn thing wrong with a diverse approach to article marketing...

    I seek diversity in the websites that publish my articles, because in the end, I believe it serves my search rankings well to have my links pouring in from all corners of the globe, from all types of websites, and from websites with with varying levels of popularity.

    I honestly believe that if I were relying only upon article directories to get my articles into the hands of my prospective customers, then Google might count my content less valuable. After all, don't you know that Google can see in a second whether the linking website is an article directory with very little editorial standards or something more?

    In the end, there is not just one way to use article marketing... There is not just one "right way" and many "wrong ways" to do article marketing...

    There are many ways that work, and other ways that may work a little better...

    I am not the kind of person to say, "Well, Jeremy's way works, so that is all I should ever need..." Whether Jeremy desires to admit it or not, he is leaving money on the table, and I choose not to ignore the other kinds of article marketing to only pursue the easiest kind of article marketing...


    p.s. If you like what I am telling you here, download my free Article Marketing Ebook shown below, "Article Marketing: Beyond The Basics".

    If you would like one more example - one money making example - a search in Google for "article marketing ebook" without the quotes will show you my two ebooks on the subject at #5 and #6: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...arketing+ebook
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  • Profile picture of the author jerdude
    tpw, great great post. Changed my view on article distribution services once and for all. However, I noticed that you recommend SubmitYourArticle.com on your site, under P.P.P.P.P.P.S. So, does this mean SYA is worthwhile if I don't have a lot of funds right now?
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by jerdude View Post

      tpw, great great post. Changed my view on article distribution services once and for all. However, I noticed that you recommend SubmitYourArticle.com on your site, under P.P.P.P.P.P.S. So, does this mean SYA is worthwhile if I don't have a lot of funds right now?
      I would not waste my money on no mass submit site / software that submits to article directories. No idea what Bill has on his site but the fact is 90% of those article directories are going to do you no good.

      The fact is many are just adsense farms slapped up because someone told someone they could make money from an article directory site, but many of these people do not even know how to market the article directory to begin with.

      James
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by jerdude View Post

      tpw, great great post. Changed my view on article distribution services once and for all. However, I noticed that you recommend SubmitYourArticle.com on your site, under P.P.P.P.P.P.S. So, does this mean SYA is worthwhile if I don't have a lot of funds right now?
      There was a time when I regularly recommended SubmitYourArticles, because they complemented my service, without duplicating my service.

      The actual P.S. refers to "cheaper services", in case you simply don't want to pay for mine... It reads, "Tip: Cheaper does not always mean more cost-effective. But if you really want cheaper, try:"

      In previous years, I used to recommend SYA frequently, because they did not rely upon Article Directories to distribute articles. Like my service, they primarily used other distribution channels to get their articles out there.

      I would still offer a recommendation, with a caveat, for SYA as a complementary service, because they have not completely abandoned the other channels to pursue the "article directories only" formula, although they seem to have moved more in that direction in recent years.

      Right after they went to the SYA v2.0, I checked things out. At that time, they offered their v1.0 as an option, but insisted that they could not understand why anyone would want to do so. If they still offer v1.0, then I will still recommend them, but only if you use v1.0. If they have abandoned the v1.0 completely, then my recommendation for them must come to an end.
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  • Profile picture of the author articleseen
    I have been using the article submission service at submitinme since two years. They offer the good and effective service with the best affordable rates. Use their service and see the the result.
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    • Profile picture of the author jerdude
      @tpw, you got me all wrong. Your service is the first service I'll get once I got my funds. But for now, I can only settle for the rest, which is why I ask for your advice, since you clearly know your stuff. At least I get the more worthwhile ones among the rest. Sorry for any misunderstanding...
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  • Profile picture of the author paj_mccarthy
    I haven't got long, but everything James has said is on the money. Especially about using Bill Platt's article distribution service - a really powerful service.
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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
    Actually, there are more article directory owners becoming serious about their directories right now than I have seen since 2006. There was a large gap where most directory owners didn't give a crap and just shut them down.

    But the scale is tipping.

    I don't think it will ever tip entirely the other way, but I have noticed a huge difference...one that I haven't seen since the good old days when sites like upublish.info and afroarticles were getting started. Back when that guy - oh what was his name - Bill Platt, I think - was showing us all what to do!

    If I owned any of the submission sites discussed above, I would allow the author to pick and choose which directories their article would be submitted to - either by article or by account. That way, the smart marketers who used them would have an advantage...if they played their cards right.

    Allen

    p.s. Hey Bill, I found Ms. Jodi - Shes busy and flying under the radar...but doing well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Davioli
    If I may chime in.. I'm a user of UAW for over a year now.. Its the best $67 I pay every month!

    I like to use pointers because I don't really have that much time right now.

    1) UAW should not be used alone. You MUST diversify your links. However, I have a few websites in my network that rank from just a few UAW submissions.

    2) I use UAW mostly for ranking inner pages. I tend to use it for keyword that have less than 1k searches a month(by that I mean modest competiton) .. I do an article on my website for the term and do one submission through UAW for it. I rank in 2 weeks most of the time.

    3) It is extremely important to spend some time and spin these articles properly. Use 8 paragraphs.

    4) vary the anchor text big time! I tent to use around 7 to 8 anchor texts for every URL. (a good rule of thumb is to search the keyword in the Google keyword tool and use all the variations as anchor text)

    5) Do it for websites after 3 months of creation. I'm just paranoid about that.. but i've stuck to that rule and Its worked great!

    6) As Jeremy pointed out extremely CLEARLY. its all about velocity and consistency. the more you do it.. the more backlinks you keep getting. Richjerks.. this is an SEO thread. Everyone knows how to do PROPER article marketing.. But thats a different ball game. We're looking for backlinks.. and from my use and expreience.. UAW gives me that!
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    Unique Article Wizard - Established and most powerful unique content service currently available!
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    Article Marketer - Best traditional mass submission service to all the best article directories
    Note: Article Marketer has now been renamed to Content Crooner!

    Article Marketing is still one of the best ways of promoting your website or blog. Over the last few months I have often heared the phrase "article marketing is dead", but this could not be further from the truth!

    Submitting articles for website promotion is one of the most powerful tools that an internet or affiliate marketer can use and many of the top guys use the services which are recommended every single day. Article marketing is one of the mainstream activities they use heavily to help them make money online.

    And you should be using it too. All the services listed work in different ways and provide you with different facilities and will give you different results. They also have different prices attached to them and it is true in this case that you pay for what you get.

    Here is a quick comparision, what I feel about the three :

    UAW is definitely the best service just from the speed, power and flexibility you get from their system, but it is also the most expensive.

    AMA falls in the middle ground by being cheaper, but more expensive than Article Marketer, which currently has a Special Offer price. AMA provide a new type of service which submits only to blogs and gives you quality contextual back links right inside your unique content.

    Article Marketer is a more traditional type of article submission service, but they can get your articles out to literally hundreds of article directories very quickly, if thats what you want (currently on special offer).
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  • Profile picture of the author RolandFrasier
    I use UAW and AMA and have been happy with both.
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  • Profile picture of the author hermescave
    i also have tried distributeyourarticles.com and it is a load of rubbish the tool to use is SENUKE it is great and really works most of the other stuff i have tried does not seem to get the job done.
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  • Profile picture of the author Guni
    Thanks! I didn't even had any clue about it. I am glad that I get to learn so many new things everyday. This is the coolest forum, I have ever come across.
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