optin box in CB landing page

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If a user click my affiliate link and land to the vendor landing page and fill their optin form, will I get the commission if the user finally buy from the vendor's email? I check the aweber form, and couldn't see my affiliate ID there. So is it true that if the user fill those optin form I will get nothing?
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  • Profile picture of the author ozduc
    It would probably depend on how the vendor has their landing page set up as to whether or not your cookie gets the sale later on.
    BTW you should have your own landing page first to get the customer on your list and then email them direct to a sales page.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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  • Profile picture of the author Kris Turner
    Unless the vendor does something sneaky like send out an email that contains their own affiliate link, and assuming no other affiliate refers the prospect again in the meantime, yes you'll get credit for the sale.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shaun Lee
    Alexa, I just did a test to determine if I was wrong. Here are my results.

    At first, it was not an easy task trying to find a product with an opt-in form. I tried looking in E-Business, Forex, Green Energy, etc. After some searching, I found one salespage with an opt-in form in the E-Business category.

    I opened up two browsers, Google Chrome and Mozilla Firefox.

    On Google Chrome: I got a temporary email from GuerrillaMail.

    On Mozilla Firefox
    : I went to the salespage WITH a hoplink and signed up to the list with the temporary email I got from Google Chrome.

    About a minute later, the welcome mail arrives in my temporary email account. Through Google Chrome, I clicked on the links and was sent to the salespage. When I attempt to order, the affiliate code wasn't there.

    Conclusion
    :Don't promote products with an opt-in form. It's not hard to find salespages without opt-in forms. In fact, it's much harder to find salespages with an opt-in form. I'm sorry for providing misleading information and I apologize to anyone who was misguided.

    -Shaun

    P.S Just don't promote products with an opt-in form.
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    • Profile picture of the author butters
      Why not just write your own sales page and bypass there sales page all together, that way you can do what ever you want on it and still make affiliate commission.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        • Profile picture of the author butters
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          For me, there are three compelling reasons for not doing this:-

          1. Bypassing the vendor's sales-page and linking to their order page doesn't set a cookie at all, so the only sales you can make this way are the "immediate purchases" (which are a small minority: many people will visit a few times, do a google search or two, and end up buying from the vendor's sales page anyway even if they've seen "mine" first - that's fine if they have my affiliate cookie on their computer, but they won't if I've bypassed the vendor's sales page).

          2. Even as a copywriter myself, I don't see why I should have to write a sales page without being paid for it. It's too much work, when I don't need to do that and can use that time promoting my existing pre-selling pages/sites instead.

          3. There are over 10,000 products on Clickbank, and I can easily select the ones I want to promote according to my impression of whether the existing sales page will convert my traffic anyway: if a vendor can't put up his own sales page which is adequate for my purposes as an affiliate, I don't need to promote his product anyway. :p

          (Note that it's also contrary to Clickbank's terms of service to do this without a special arrangement/permission from the vendor.)
          All so true , I hate it when your in a niche and there are only a few products there. You look at there sales copy and just bang your head against the table.

          The reason why I like writing my own copy, it is essentially testing the copy and telling me if a niche is buying. If people are buying then I will simply get rid of the affiliate product and create my own. It's like break even testing in a sense .
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        • Profile picture of the author goodmast3r
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          For me, there are three compelling reasons for not doing this:-

          1. Bypassing the vendor's sales-page and linking to their order page doesn't set a cookie at all, so the only sales you can make this way are the "immediate purchases" (which are a small minority: many people will visit a few times, do a google search or two, and end up buying from the vendor's sales page anyway even if they've seen "mine" first - that's fine if they have my affiliate cookie on their computer, but they won't if I've bypassed the vendor's sales page).
          There is actually a way to set the cookie using iframe
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        • Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          1. Bypassing the vendor's sales-page and linking to their order page doesn't set a cookie at all, so the only sales you can make this way are the "immediate purchases" (which are a small minority: many people will visit a few times, do a google search or two, and end up buying from the vendor's sales page anyway even if they've seen "mine" first - that's fine if they have my affiliate cookie on their computer, but they won't if I've bypassed the vendor's sales page).
          You can EASILY stuff the cookie on their internet browse with a single line of code, and I would think that Clickbank wouldn't mind since you're not mass stuffing.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            • Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

              Thanks for the replies from people who don't read Clickbank's terms of service, too. :rolleyes:
              Whatever. We gave you a solution that works and that's been used for years without a problem. Whether you want to take it or not it's up to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    Alexa didn't argue the point of effectiveness, she stated it could become a problem because you are violating the terms of service.

    You're right, it is not a big deal... You want to go ahead and post that opinion to all the people who lost their Blogger Blogs, Adsense Accounts, Facebook profiles, Twitter accounts because it was OK to violate the TOS, because everyone else was?

    It is only OK, until they decide to crack the whip, then you are DEAD.
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