Experimenting With Article Marketing - Hmm That's Not Much Traffic

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Here's some results after publishing 11 articles yesterday...



I'm wanting to give article marketing a fair shot. I've slammed it A LOT before haha...

I'd like to see if it's worth my time doing over a couple other things I do.

Not much traffic so far. ...They made me Platinum Author, so I guess articles are now getting approved quickly.... so it'll be easier to test.

I know there are no set rules and it always depends... but can anyone offer any insights into how your first week of hardcore article marketing went?

Did the traffic start to pick up and snowball a little? If yes, why and how did it happen?

Doesn't seem to be a very quick way to generate traffic. Although I know it's a very high quality stream of traffic.

And I'm wondering if traffic wont actually snowball since articles will get older and harder to find in on-site searches.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pragun
    Are you sure you're picking the correct keywords ??

    I mean, for all you know, you could just be posting stuff that nobody is actually looking for !
    Try looking at the "most viewed" articles and use the keywords they're using. That's definitely going to give you some extra traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author brettmwindmann
      Hey,

      I have noticed a HUGE drop off in the "rush" of traffic ezine articles used to send. I would def like to hear some more results of other article marketers.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by brettmwindmann View Post

        I have noticed a HUGE drop off in the "rush" of traffic ezine articles used to send. I would def like to hear some more results of other article marketers.
        With an average of 42 ads per article page in EzineArticles, everyone has seen a huge dropoff in traffic from that source.

        At the end of the day, EzineArticles is just one article publisher out of hundreds of thousands of potential publishers.

        If your experience is anything like mine, you will find that most click-through traffic comes from publishers that are not article directories.
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    • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
      Originally Posted by Pragun View Post

      Are you sure you're picking the correct keywords ??

      I mean, for all you know, you could just be posting stuff that nobody is actually looking for !
      Try looking at the "most viewed" articles and use the keywords they're using. That's definitely going to give you some extra traffic.
      Oh yeah... I learned that strategy from Tim Gorman last year. Forgot about it. Thanks for the refresher
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      • Profile picture of the author Pragun
        Originally Posted by JasonParker View Post

        Oh yeah... I learned that strategy from Tim Gorman last year. Forgot about it. Thanks for the refresher
        Try it, and lemme know if it helps you.

        Also, if you need an example of how targeting a good keyword can help you get more traffic, drop me a PM and i'll show you an example of a single article that made 9 sales in 2 months !
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        • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
          Originally Posted by Pragun View Post

          Try it, and lemme know if it helps you.

          Also, if you need an example of how targeting a good keyword can help you get more traffic, drop me a PM and i'll show you an example of a single article that made 9 sales in 2 months !
          Sure. Thanks. I'd like to see that article, then start jamming out 1 article a day at 4.5 sales an article per month =P
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  • Profile picture of the author mikkosant
    It doesn't look like you're really targetting any keywords. Sure, if you just post an article to ezinearticles and that's it, you're lucky to get 50 views of direct ezine traffic. Where you really take advantage is targeting long-tail keywords. Try using google suggest. It helps a lot for finding good longtail keywords. Even if the search volume is low, almost every google suggest keyphrase has some decent potential because people are lazy and just use the suggestions. Just keep typing in the box after the main phrase and you'll quickly have a lot of great longtails that are probaly pretty easy to dominate in the rankings.
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    • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
      Originally Posted by mikkosant View Post

      It doesn't look like you're really targetting any keywords. Sure, if you just post an article to ezinearticles and that's it, you're lucky to get 50 views of direct ezine traffic. Where you really take advantage is targeting long-tail keywords. Try using google suggest. It help a lot for finding good longtail keywords. Even if the search volume is low, almost every google suggest keyphrase has some decent search volume. Just keep typing in the box after the main phrase and you'll quickly have a lot of great longtails that are probaly pretty easy to dominate in the rankings.
      Thanks. Do you have any concrete results to share?
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerdrun
    No offence but take the criticisim properly. I have written about 400 articles on EZA and make my living off ezinearticles., My articles generate a CTR average of 30% and I do have experience on this topic. So let me critique your campaign -

    1. You are in a niche that doesn't get a lot of direct EZA traffic
    2. Your titles sucks
    3. Your resource box isn't of any use

    Two Simple But Solid Proven Ways You Can Flood Your Site With Traffic Using Articles and Videos by Angela Linsky is a good title but the resource box isn't great\. Can produce aboit a 10% CTR that's all.
    And your article needs work. It's like an essay on traffic generation.

    PM me if you want me to rework your article writing method
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    • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
      Originally Posted by tylerdrun View Post

      No offence but take the criticisim properly. I have written about 400 articles on EZA and make my living off ezinearticles., My articles generate a CTR average of 30% and I do have experience on this topic. So let me critique your campaign -

      1. You are in a niche that doesn't get a lot of direct EZA traffic
      2. Your titles sucks
      3. Your resource box isn't of any use

      Two Simple But Solid Proven Ways You Can Flood Your Site With Traffic Using Articles and Videos by Angela Linsky is a good title but the resource box isn't great. Can produce aboit a 10% CTR that's all.
      And your article needs work. It's like an essay on traffic generation.

      PM me if you want me to rework your article writing method
      Thanks. I appreciate the honest feedback...

      Nah. I think I'm probably going to throw in the towel on articles.

      "1. You are in a niche that doesn't get a lot of direct EZA traffic"

      IM's the niche I know most about.

      Competitive markets have their advantages and disadvantages. I guess this is one of those disadvantages.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark-Dickenson
        Yowza!!!

        That is a lot of work for so little traffic

        I recommend taking an article and getting it ranked in the serps with some backlinks so that you can leverage the Free search engine traffic from google

        Then I would recommend taking that article and putting it on some doc sharing sites and turning it into a video...that way you are leveraging your work

        Traditional article marketing, like what you are doing here is a low paying job unfortunately

        So try to get your content ranked...and I especially recommend putting content on your own domains rather than someone elses

        And if you get your content ranked for buyer keywords, you will have a nice passive income stream

        That sure beats churning out article after article!

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        • Profile picture of the author Kella Bella
          Originally Posted by Mark-Dickenson View Post

          Yowza!!!

          That is a lot of work for so little traffic

          I recommend taking an article and getting it ranked in the serps with some backlinks so that you can leverage the Free search engine traffic from google

          Then I would recommend taking that article and putting it on some doc sharing sites and turning it into a video...that way you are leveraging your work

          Traditional article marketing, like what you are doing here is a low paying job unfortunately

          So try to get your content ranked...and I especially recommend putting content on your own domains rather than someone elses

          And if you get your content ranked for buyer keywords, you will have a nice passive income stream

          That sure beats churning out article after article!

          -Mark
          LOL thanks I knew I must be learning something on here cause I was wondering after the first few replies when someone was gonna mention backlinks :-)
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      • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
        Originally Posted by JasonParker View Post

        Nah. I think I'm probably going to throw in the towel on articles.
        Really??? Just on Article Directories or on websites, blogs, social networks, web 2.0, video sharing, and everywhere else?

        I hate to break it to you, but every piece of content you create is basically an article in action.

        The trick with any form of content creation traffic generation is the same. You must optimize your keyword selection. You must engage your viewers/readers. You must give a strong call to action both in your headline, and in your closing. You must create back links to the content to get it ranked.

        Article directories can be just as effective as any other method of traffic generation if used properly. If used without really trying.....

        Go ahead, throw up another website and put in just as much attention as you did to working with those articles and see what happens. Page 553 of Google should be about the right place.

        Now...On the subject of your niche. A couple hours in Market Samurai could find some great keywords which work in the IM niche with decent traffic, where you could rank. Maybe not a ton of traffic to start with. But if you create 200 articles and get a bunch of them on page 1 of Google you can drive significant TARGETED traffic to your site.

        But you're right...it's not worth it. It is more fun to spend weeks putting up blog comments which will probably get deleted, forum posts which disappear into obscurity, etc... Those articles which stick on page 1 are pretty useless.

        Barry

        P.S. That was meant to be slightly harsh. You are looking at article marketing filtered through a mindset which was already telling you it would fail. Your mindset killed you.
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    • Profile picture of the author FriendlyRob
      Originally Posted by tylerdrun View Post

      No offence but take the criticisim properly. I have written about 400 articles on EZA and make my living off ezinearticles., My articles generate a CTR average of 30% and I do have experience on this topic. So let me critique your campaign -

      1. You are in a niche that doesn't get a lot of direct EZA traffic
      2. Your titles sucks
      3. Your resource box isn't of any use

      Two Simple But Solid Proven Ways You Can Flood Your Site With Traffic Using Articles and Videos by Angela Linsky is a good title but the resource box isn't great. Can produce aboit a 10% CTR that's all.
      And your article needs work. It's like an essay on traffic generation.

      PM me if you want me to rework your article writing method
      This is one of the most honest posts I've seen in a long time.
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  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    same here..great unique articles....next to no traffic any more. Dropped big about 12 months ago.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
      And Jason, just for an example...this is why I know it works. Here is an example of a HIT article, and remember that this only took me what, 10 minutes of my time.

      Veiws 8,365 URL Clicks 3,688 CTR 44.1% Ezine Publishers 58

      10 minutes of my time resulted in 3.6K vistors to my site. Show me anything else that can do that for FREE (Yes, I know money is time) with so little time investment.

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  • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
    Jason,
    I take it this is in response to your wanting to write 300 articles in 30 days, and my one and only response is, do it for 30 days and THEN see what your results are. Some articles will hit, others will miss. You've been given some great tips to improve things from other posters so I won't go into that, but I think you are calling it quits way too soon.

    Sylvia
    P.S I am doing your little challenge myself, aiming for the 300 article in 30 days, split between my 5 websites, 4 of which are IM related so I think after that it should give me a good overall look at what is working and what isn't.
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    • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
      Originally Posted by Sylvia Rolfe View Post

      Jason,
      I take it this is in response to your wanting to write 300 articles in 30 days, and my one and only response is, do it for 30 days and THEN see what your results are. Some articles will hit, others will miss. You've been given some great tips to improve things from other posters so I won't go into that, but I think you are calling it quits way too soon.

      Sylvia
      P.S I am doing your little challenge myself, aiming for the 300 article in 30 days, split between my 5 websites, 4 of which are IM related so I think after that it should give me a good overall look at what is working and what isn't.
      Thanks Sylvia.

      Yeah, it was funny how I was so gung ho about it yesterday haha...

      I give up on things too fast when they don't work fast.

      Guess I'll keep going for at least 6 more days and try to implement the new things. I'm still on track.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
        Article marketing is a long term traffic strategy, 11 articles proves nothing. Also, after you submit your article are doing anything with the RSS feed? Are you mixing it up with press releases, PPC, or anything else? You want EACH article to work as hard for you as possible. IMHO the days of writing and simply submitting articles to directories are over (unless you enjoy working really, really hard).

        Here's something else a lot of people don't write about. Article marketing is like a mutual fund and you never know when you are going to hit critical mass. It could take 50 articles, 150, or 300. Also what kind of article marketing courses have you studied? Article marketing has changed quite a bit over the past couple of years. Some killer courses by Tim Gorman and Dean Shainin have helped out a lot of people, including my writing staff. I strongly recommend them.

        Eleven articles? All the hard core article marketers are giggling at this.

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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    I have over 1 million views - it works! It is all about KW research and backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author jennypitts
    I think you need to have your keywords and keyphrases (which I could not figure out which exactly they were) better placed in your title; this said, your titles are too passive. You need to have catchier titles. Remember, a title is your "presentation card" if it does not say much to the reader, they aren't going to bother reading the article.

    Do not give up, article marketing, if done right is one of the best forms of getting free promotion for your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    Jason ,

    Article marketing is more about what you do after the submission than before .

    As far as traffic building , my limited use of EZA has been really the opposite . I usually hit the engines within a couple of hours of posting and then, if no other methods are applied , the traffic dwindles at a steady clip.

    Any time you need specific advice on article or content marketing shoot me a pm. I don't have anything to sell either . Just like the way you handle yourself on here .
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  • Profile picture of the author ShelbyC
    Articles are a great way to drive traffic, but you must base them around keywords that actually get traffic in the search engines, and get them to rank there.

    Another benefit of articles that I seldom see mentioned is that they can provide years of traffic and even 1 or 2 visitors a day per article can add up.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michele Welch
      Hi Jason,

      I agree with Sylvia...I think you need to give it some time. It may take some time to build some ranking in search engines especially if you are in a competitive market. I mean have you noticed how many articles have been posted in the Internet Market category?

      What's interesting is you article on 'Memberships' did very well...something to think about. Maybe an area you can elaborate on for the purpose of driving people to your site.

      I think have a little patience and keep working on it and in a months time evaluate what's working and what's not. Look at tweaking your articles to be keyword friendly while not overdoing it to turn off your readers.

      I noticed someone remarked on your bio...have you seen this video put out by ezinearticles? Do a search on 'how to create the perfect resource box' by ezinearticles on youtube. I found it to be very useful.

      Happy Writing!
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    • Profile picture of the author FriendlyRob
      Originally Posted by ccmusicman View Post

      Yeah, I think the biggest problem is the niche.

      You are targeting IM'ers. And most IM'ers don't go to EZA to get their info.

      They come here.

      Rob
      That's a good point. We already know that Ezinearticles is not the best source of good information, its primarily a traffic building technique. But someone searching for help with insomnia, or weight loss, or even dating tips, might not know any better.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
    Jason,

    I think one other person already beat me to it...but here's the major problem:

    YOUR TITLES!

    Don't take this personally, but your article titles need serious TLC. I can almost guarantee you that's the reason you're not getting good view counts.

    They just don't sound original. They don't really give me any curiosity, and hardly any of them suggest a clear benefit from reading them.

    C'mon dude...up your game, you're better, I know you're better!

    P.S - (and seriously, I'm not digging in here), this one title reads wrong:

    "How to build a website for idiots"

    READ = How to build a website that idiots will visit, read and enjoy.

    I know what you meant, but it reads wrong. It should be:

    "7 simple steps to creating a stunning website...even if you're an IDIOT"

    or...

    "An idiot proof guide to building beautiful websites from scratch"

    ...you get the idea.

    The rest are just plain vanilla dude...get those puppies edited!
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    • Profile picture of the author Jack7
      Interesting info there guys.

      I'm in the same boat as Jason with the only difference being that I have like 3 articles with a CTR of 1.2%...

      I've just entered article marketing tho, so I'm going to give some of the suggestions here a shot.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimG
    Jason,
    Don't give up - Focus on the advice provided in this thread and it will work for you. Here are some stats from my March 2010 Monthly Article Performance Summary that EZA sends out:

    Article Views:
    March 2010 - 81,068
    Lifetime - 4,171,782

    Clicks Delivered:
    March 2010 - 6,569
    Lifetime - 411,831

    Top 3 Performing Articles (Lifetime):

    How To Get Rid Of Bed Bugs - Tips On How To Kill Bed Bugs Quickly And Easily
    Lifetime Views: 100,077

    Top Keywords Used To Find This Article During March 2010:

    bed bugs how to get rid of them
    how to get rid of bed bugs
    getting rid of bedbugs
    how to get rid of bed bugs home remedy
    how to get ride of bed bugs

    How to Kill Bed Bugs - Tips On How To Get Rid Of Bed Bugs Quickly And Easily
    Lifetime Views: 73,385

    Top Keywords Used To Find This Article During March 2010:

    how to kill bed bugs
    what kills bed bugs
    how to kill bedbugs
    kill bed bugs
    how to kill bed bug

    Heal Acne Quick with These Home Remedies
    Lifetime Views: 69,124

    Top Keywords Used To Find This Article During March 2010:

    how to get rid of pimples fast home remedies
    quick zit remedies
    quick home remedies for acne
    how to heal pimples fast
    ways to cure acne

    Top 3 Performing Articles (March 2010):

    10 Home Remedies for Gout Pain
    March 2010 Views: 2,892

    Top Keywords Used To Find This Article During March 2010:

    home remedy for gout
    gout home remedies
    home remedies for goutc
    ure for gout pain
    remedies for gout pain

    Where Do Bed Bugs Come From?
    March 2010 Views: 2,639

    Top Keywords Used To Find This Article During March 2010:

    where do bed bugs come from
    how do bed bugs start
    what are bed bugs and where do they come from
    what causes bed bugs
    where do bed bugs come from?

    Heal Acne Quick with These Home Remedies
    March 2010 Views: 2,065

    Top Keywords Used To Find This Article During March 2010:

    See results above

    Yes, those are three of the niches I am in (bed bugs, gout, acne).

    Hope this helps inspire you when the days are long and dark while writing your articles.

    Respectfully,
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    • Profile picture of the author tylerdrun
      Originally Posted by TimG View Post

      Jason,
      Don't give up - Focus on the advice provided in this thread and it will work for you. Here are some stats from my March 2010 Monthly Article Performance Summary that EZA sends out:

      Article Views:
      March 2010 - 81,068
      Lifetime - 4,171,782

      Clicks Delivered:
      March 2010 - 6,569
      Lifetime - 411,831

      Top 3 Performing Articles (Lifetime):

      How To Get Rid Of Bed Bugs - Tips On How To Kill Bed Bugs Quickly And Easily
      Lifetime Views: 100,077

      Top Keywords Used To Find This Article During March 2010:

      bed bugs how to get rid of them
      how to get rid of bed bugs
      getting rid of bedbugs
      how to get rid of bed bugs home remedy
      how to get ride of bed bugs

      How to Kill Bed Bugs - Tips On How To Get Rid Of Bed Bugs Quickly And Easily
      Lifetime Views: 73,385

      Top Keywords Used To Find This Article During March 2010:

      how to kill bed bugs
      what kills bed bugs
      how to kill bedbugs
      kill bed bugs
      how to kill bed bug

      Heal Acne Quick with These Home Remedies
      Lifetime Views: 69,124

      Top Keywords Used To Find This Article During March 2010:

      how to get rid of pimples fast home remedies
      quick zit remedies
      quick home remedies for acne
      how to heal pimples fast
      ways to cure acne

      Top 3 Performing Articles (March 2010):

      10 Home Remedies for Gout Pain
      March 2010 Views: 2,892

      Top Keywords Used To Find This Article During March 2010:

      home remedy for gout
      gout home remedies
      home remedies for goutc
      ure for gout pain
      remedies for gout pain

      Where Do Bed Bugs Come From?
      March 2010 Views: 2,639

      Top Keywords Used To Find This Article During March 2010:

      where do bed bugs come from
      how do bed bugs start
      what are bed bugs and where do they come from
      what causes bed bugs
      where do bed bugs come from?

      Heal Acne Quick with These Home Remedies
      March 2010 Views: 2,065

      Top Keywords Used To Find This Article During March 2010:

      See results above

      Yes, those are three of the niches I am in (bed bugs, gout, acne).

      Hope this helps inspire you when the days are long and dark while writing your articles.

      Respectfully,
      Tim
      Tim, what he hell? You have such a low CTR. Seriously I thought you were exceptional at it?

      No offence.... But the Ctr is very low
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        I don't usually have a rush of traffic from articles - but the traffic comes over time. The articles you list went live yesterday and today. I'd give it a bit longer before rushing to judgement on it.

        I have articles that were published a couple years ago that still send traffic to sites. I'm not going to give away my niches and pen names but I have 500-6000 views per article with clickthrough rates from 2-16% depending on topic. I haven't put effort into promoting my articles once they are published so these results have nothing to do with social marking or backlinks to articles.

        Much of the long term traffic I get from articles is often from good sites that have republished the articles months after I first submitted them.

        Some niches - and some articles - do much better than others and often it's the ones I don't expect to do well that surprise me.

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        • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
          Much of the long term traffic I get from articles is often from good sites that have republished the articles months after I first submitted them.
          Bingo! Another factor that people forget to bring up in article marketing threads. I'm glad you brought it up Kay.

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  • Profile picture of the author TimG
    The CTR is low (9.9%) because most of my initial clicks were never tracked. Additionally right now I have about 350 articles that lead nowhere due to jacked up hyperlinks...etc.

    Also, The articles that do well for me (meaning get a high CTR) get my attention, the articles that have a low CTR are put on the back burner until I get time to fix the resource box.

    Until recently, EZA took your article offline when you made a change to it - I was unwilling to work on improving my resource boxes due to the article coming down. Now that you can make changes on the fly without removing the article I can go back in and correct my poorly performing resource boxes.

    Keep in mind I've been submitting articles for well over 5 years and I'm not to proud to admit the articles I submitted my first 2 years plain sucked to include resource boxes. As I become better the CTR has improved.

    One final note - I have lots of articles that are submitted for one niche with a resource box for a completely different niche. As you would expect the CTR for those articles is in the toilet but I'm not after the CTR for those articles. They are purely for positioning the article they link to higher in the search engines.

    There are other factors but I think you get the idea from what I've typed thus far.

    Sometimes it's not always about the static numbers, they can be a smoke and mirrors effect. It's what income is generated at the end of the day and judging by my recent (and horribly high) tax bill the 9.9% CTR has no negative effect -

    Respectfully,
    Tim
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  • Profile picture of the author duia
    Yes, I can't agree with you anymore. It is really a tough task for me to gain much traffic from article marketing. Although it seems that many article directory sites have big mount of traffic, I have no chance to have a finger in the pie. What's a pity.
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  • Profile picture of the author MrDay
    Looks like you either didn't pick high traffic keywords or your content and description isn't making people want to read. You gotta remember your meta description and title are key to getting people to read your articles. Whether or not your content is valuable or good. If you have a crappy title then no one is going to read it.

    You must be using Ezine's hence the platinum status. I've always gotten a lot of traffic when any of my Ezine article's were just approved but then the traffic dies down very rapidly until my articles were in the serp's.

    I really don't mess with to much article marketing anymore, in fact it's been about a year or more since I written a article on Ezine's. There are so many other methods of getting traffic. Like social media, guest posting, link baits, ppc, press releases, forums, viral marketing, seo and etc....

    Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author xmanny
    Jason-

    Article marketing is a fad, it'll go away soon enough.

    Articles: 115 Active articles, resulting in 438,564 views

    The articles bringing me the most traffic are from over 3 years old.

    It takes work. Cannot give up after just one day.

    And there are many more niches you could get into using your internet marketing background.

    -Adam
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    • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
      Originally Posted by xmanny View Post

      Article marketing is a fad, it'll go away soon enough.
      You're absolutely right. Article marketing is a fad, just like books, magazines, websites...the written word is never going to stick, it is such a waste of time. We all know that no one reads to learn, to evaluate products, or to find solutions to problems..

      Instead of writing I think I'll just go and...............................oops, what else is there? Even the best video marketers start by writing down a script. Damn, maybe this written word stuff has traction after all.

      Article directories may not maintain their status forever, but I cannot picture the written word and articles being replaced in my lifetime, or yours.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lonely_Cowboy
    1. Your Headlines Don't Look Interesting Enough to Get Someone to Read.
    2. You Aren't Targeting Any Keywords.
    3. You are in a Very Competitive Niche that has free information everywhere.

    Like someone previously said, don't give up! If I gave up after my first few article failures I wouldn't be in the healthy position I am today.

    In fact, I will write 2 articles tomorrow that will more than likely be in the top few spots in Google. They'll only get me a few hundred people per month but when you build a list and convert half of the people to subscribers I'll take it.
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    • Profile picture of the author socomplete
      Article marketing is a great tool if used in the right hands, but it's all about consistency.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeanSupplee
    Article marketing is all anyone talks about on this forum anymore theres about 100 other different ways to get traffic to your sites but everyone seems to be hung up on article marketing. Its become so over saturated you honestly can't expect much from it anymore.
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      100% in agreement with u on this point.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christian York
    You are kidding right?

    You posted 11 articles yesterday and you expect traffic today?

    Articles are a longer term method for building traiffic. It isn't ppc or media buying where you can literally expect good traffic (if you can pay for it) right away.

    The key with article marketing (which most people don't seem to realize) is that they are only effective if they get ranked in the SERPS for keywords and therefore bring you consistent traffic. If your keyword doesn't rank for any keyword then it won't bring you any traffic. (unless it is a phenomenal article which gets passed around the niche i.e. viral marketing. however this is extremely unlikely. )

    If you choose good keywords (i.e. ones that you can actually rank for), write good articles, submit your articles to a couple of directories, test and tweak your resource box, monitor and track rankings (build links if necessary) then you will get great traffic.

    Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
    I appreciate all the advice, but then again, I haven't seen any claims of SUBSTANTIAL traffic here... so why would I choose article marketing over other methods? That's the whole goal of my test. To determine whether it's better to do article marketing over other traffic strategies.

    All I'm hearing is... you should do this (but I'm not really going to tell you I only got 5,000 hits, probably less, from article marketing last month after years of submitting articles).

    Newsflash... that's not a lot of traffic and not a lot of traffic generated very easily. That's playing pretty SMALL in exchange for some seriously hard work if you ask me. Or... someone enlighten me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lonely_Cowboy
      Jason,

      If you have the money it's time to jump on to Adwords. I started out article marketing but I quickly moved to Adwords once I had a little extra money. I now do both and it makes a healthy income (depending on where you live of course). Once I started doing paid traffic I doubled my income.

      Just wait until I expand to the content network, ppv, media buys, facebook........


      P.S.

      Make sure you get affiliate prophet if you do ppc traffic.
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      • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
        Originally Posted by Lonely_Cowboy View Post

        Jason,

        If you have the money it's time to jump on to Adwords. I started out article marketing but I quickly moved to Adwords once I had a little extra money. I now do both and it makes a healthy income (depending on where you live of course). Once I started doing paid traffic I doubled my income.

        Just wait until I expand to the content network, ppv, media buys, facebook........


        P.S.

        Make sure you get affiliate prophet if you do ppc traffic.
        I've been doing more and more paid advertising. I'm about to start doing a lot of CPA lead gen.

        Actually, the reason I'm looking at article marketing is because the rest of my business is becoming more like a machine and I was thinking I could invest more in advertising if I could get some high quality traffic from articles flowing in.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
      Originally Posted by JasonParker View Post

      I appreciate all the advice, but then again, I haven't seen any claims of SUBSTANTIAL traffic here... so why would I choose article marketing over other methods? That's the whole goal of my test. To determine whether it's better to do article marketing over other traffic strategies.

      All I'm hearing is... you should do this (but I'm not really going to tell you I only got 5,000 hits, probably less, from article marketing last month after years of submitting articles).

      Newsflash... that's not a lot of traffic and not a lot of traffic generated very easily. That's playing pretty SMALL in exchange for some seriously hard work if you ask me. Or... someone enlighten me.
      To be blunt, article marketing isn't easy, nor quick, and most of the AMers in this forum have written as such. It's a long-term traffic strategy, just ask Steve W. or Tim G. In all honesty, I prefer paid advertising over any other form of traffic source because it's fast, easily tracked, and I can test more variables a lot faster. I can buy a few hundred dollars worth of traffic, fine tune it, and if it's profitable I can really scale it up....quickly. If not, there are dozens of other networks to test.

      This is how some marketers are making wads of cash in just a few short months. The flipside is, people also lose their shirts but they generally don't know what they're doing or get too greedy. Article marketing accounts for less than 2% of our overall traffic, but we deal in high volume, so it's still quite a bit of traffic. We still build content sites too because along with building a list, companies still pay top dollar for them and these sites will get traffic for years, if not decades.

      Your articles were posted a few days ago, there's still time needed for people to grab them and publish them, to build back links to them, etc. So that's why you're not seeing any substantial traffic.

      Another thing to consider, no two people have the same content strategy. I'd venture to even say that article marketing isn't for most people, then again there are others who purchase articles and pay others to submit it for them or use a service like SubmitYourArticles.com where the submission gets done for them. They never lift a finger. It really depends on budget, time, and your overall business plan and what floats your boat. I happen to like writing a lot so even though we have a staff of writers, I'm cranking content too.

      Yes, it's a lot of hard work so it's definitely not for everybody. But once you have enough articles working hard for you, you'll have free traffic for years to come. I'm still getting traffic, good traffic, from articles I posted years ago. Article marketing is not a fast way of getting traffic, generally, but in the long run it can really kick some a$$.

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  • Profile picture of the author indexphp
    Ezine is a way to get inbound links (and if it ranks too, Great).

    Why some of you give them that much free content is beyond me.

    Maybe try hitting a niche a little less served. i should also add that your articles look like they suck (no offense)
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      • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Do you mind not giving all my secrets away, please? ...



        Utlimately, one can only enlighten oneself, honestly. But there are a couple of questions above which may also help a tiny bit?

        (i) What do you think is the primary factor that determines how many views your articles there will get?

        (ii) What do you think is the primary factor that will determine their click-through rate?


        My CTR seems to be picking up on some of these articles.

        "(i) What do you think is the primary factor that determines how many views your articles there will get?"

        That's what I'm trying to figure out.

        I'm mainly trying to figure out what makes it possible to scale up your traffic on a large scale over time...
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        • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
          The re-publishing of your content is a major factor in article marketing success rate.

          Sure, EzineArticles can bring you a shedload of traffic... but the syndication of your content from EZA to other directories, and portals is when traffic spikes come in to play.

          Think about that.

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  • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
    Jason here are my stats, and I walked away from A.M a while back well I was busy with other things.

    Account Statistics

    Article Views: 187,573 Profile Views: 6,566 Articles Published: 1,008 URL Clicks: 38,532 Click Rate: 20.5% Live Articles: 158


    Okay so I have 158 articles that have produced 38,532 to my sites just from the ONE directory (I mass submit to around 20 different ones), not to mention the 1,008 times my articles have been published elsewhere, wherein I know I get some of my most substantial traffic.

    Just going on these numbers alone... I gain around 243 visitors to my sites per article (numbers are a little skewed right now as I have a whole crapload of new ones from the 300 articles in 30 days challenge), now say each visitor is worth around $1 to me (some niches it is much more but just to make it easy) that means for 10 minutes of work, I make on average $243 in the long term. I have no issues with those numbers.

    Those numbers say enough. And I am sure if you were to look at Steven or Tim or another AM who has been doing it for longer, the number earned per article would increase, and once you've got major amounts of articles doing that for you, it almost becomes autopilot. And that is just basing it on the single directory remember. Not all the other ones I submit to, the other sites that publish the articles, the articles I use on my own sites to gain search engine traffic etc.

    It is a method that does work, if worked.

    Sylvia
    P.S And thats just under my own name, not to mention my pen names.
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    • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
      Originally Posted by Sylvia Rolfe View Post

      Jason here are my stats, and I walked away from A.M a while back well I was busy with other things.

      Account Statistics

      Article Views: 187,573 Profile Views: 6,566 Articles Published: 1,008 URL Clicks: 38,532 Click Rate: 20.5% Live Articles: 158


      Okay so I have 158 articles that have produced 38,532 to my sites just from the ONE directory (I mass submit to around 20 different ones), not to mention the 1,008 times my articles have been published elsewhere, wherein I know I get some of my most substantial traffic.

      Just going on these numbers alone... I gain around 243 visitors to my sites per article (numbers are a little skewed right now as I have a whole crapload of new ones from the 300 articles in 30 days challenge), now say each visitor is worth around $1 to me (some niches it is much more but just to make it easy) that means for 10 minutes of work, I make on average $243 in the long term. I have no issues with those numbers.

      Those numbers say enough. And I am sure if you were to look at Steven or Tim or another AM who has been doing it for longer, the number earned per article would increase, and once you've got major amounts of articles doing that for you, it almost becomes autopilot. And that is just basing it on the single directory remember. Not all the other ones I submit to, the other sites that publish the articles, the articles I use on my own sites to gain search engine traffic etc.

      It is a method that does work, if worked.

      Sylvia
      P.S And thats just under my own name, not to mention my pen names.
      Awesome! Thanks for sharing Sylvia.

      Got to love it when people actually share some real proof.

      243 clicks per article on average. I'd definitely take that any day.

      Do you get these kind of results in huge markets like Internet Marketing, Weight Loss, and Wealth Building? Or do you find you have more success in smaller markets?
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  • Profile picture of the author indexphp
    99.9% of the time, the only way you'll see any traffic is from an SEO result. Why alot of you give Ezine all that content is beyond me.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimG
      Originally Posted by indexphp View Post

      99.9% of the time, the only way you'll see any traffic is from an SEO result. Why alot of you give Ezine all that content is beyond me.
      One reason you should submit content to EZA is because you can leverage their status to aquire more virtual real estate when other webmasters use your EZA article on their website.

      As an example, you submit an article to EZA and it ends up on the first page of Google for your keyword phrase. Next, 5 webmasters see your article on EZA and use it on thier website making sure to keep your backlinks intact.

      Soon you see that 2 more versions of your article appear on the first page of Google (2 of the 5 webmasters got on the first page with your article).

      Now, you have 3 of the top 10 spots on Google occupied with your content, for your keyword phrase. Granted this content is on other websites but you still have a presence which is more then you could obtain with the article only on your website.

      Hopefully that made sense -

      Respectfully,
      Tim
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      • Profile picture of the author indexphp
        Originally Posted by TimG View Post

        One reason you should submit content to EZA is because you can leverage their status to aquire more virtual real estate when other webmasters use your EZA article on their website.

        As an example, you submit an article to EZA and it ends up on the first page of Google for your keyword phrase. Next, 5 webmasters see your article on EZA and use it on thier website making sure to keep your backlinks intact.

        Soon you see that 2 more versions of your article appear on the first page of Google (2 of the 5 webmasters got on the first page with your article).

        Now, you have 3 of the top 10 spots on Google occupied with your content, for your keyword phrase. Granted this content is on other websites but you still have a presence which is more then you could obtain with the article only on your website.

        Hopefully that made sense -

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        Tim
        Yes I see what you mean... BUT why aren't you attempting to rank with your own domains? There, you control everything. Nobody is gonna click an Adsense ad (like on Ezine)... and you can control your conversions much much better.

        In my testing, its auto-blogs that scrape your content and republish them. Those backlinks aren't really worth much. But the EzineArticle pointing to your blog IS worth something.

        I see Ezine as a tool for helping with SEO, and nothing more. We are monetizing keywords here and sending them to offers. Why you would bank on your EzineArticle getting that job done doesn't make any sense to me.

        Ezine is just one of the many link-building methods in my book. I've submitted probably about 500 articles, and the traffic they get is blah, but my sites in those niches are ranking where I want them to be, and thats where Im making the money.
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        • Profile picture of the author TimG
          Originally Posted by indexphp View Post

          Yes I see what you mean... BUT why aren't you attempting to rank with your own domains? There, you control everything. Nobody is gonna click an Adsense ad (like on Ezine)... and you can control your conversions much much better.

          In my testing, its auto-blogs that scrape your content and republish them. Those backlinks aren't really worth much. But the EzineArticle pointing to your blog IS worth something.

          I see Ezine as a tool for helping with SEO, and nothing more. We are monetizing keywords here and sending them to offers. Why you would bank on your EzineArticle getting that job done doesn't make any sense to me.

          Ezine is just one of the many link-building methods in my book. I've submitted probably about 500 articles, and the traffic they get is blah, but my sites in those niches are ranking where I want them to be, and thats where Im making the money.
          Oh, but I am trying to rank with my own domains. Lets assume I find a keyword phrase that I can rank well for with my own website.

          If want to rank for keyword phrase 1 I would write and submit 5 articles to EZA that are on the same niche but cover different keyword phrases that are more competitive and would be dificult for my own domain to rank well for but not as hard for EZA. I then have those articles link back to my site using the keyword phrase I actually want to rank well for.

          I also utilze a system of sub-sites that I refer to as Forward Operating Bases which I link back to a main page on my Base Website (money site). Then I build what I call a Pereimeter Defense System for each Forward Operating Base.

          This is an elaborate linking structure all designed to get the pages on the Base Site (money site) ranking well. EZA is merely one part of my linking strategy but they also happen to provide a decent amount of traffic to my sites.

          Respectfully,
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          • Profile picture of the author indexphp
            Originally Posted by TimG View Post

            Oh, but I am trying to rank with my own domains. Lets assume I find a keyword phrase that I can rank well for with my own website.

            If want to rank for keyword phrase 1 I would write and submit 5 articles to EZA that are on the same niche but cover different keyword phrases that are more competitive and would be dificult for my own domain to rank well for but not as hard for EZA. I then have those articles link back to my site using the keyword phrase I actually want to rank well for.

            I also utilze a system of sub-sites that I refer to as Forward Operating Bases which I link back to a main page on my Base Website (money site). Then I build what I call a Pereimeter Defense System for each Forward Operating Base.

            This is an elaborate linking structure all designed to get the pages on the Base Site (money site) ranking well. EZA is merely one part of my linking strategy but they also happen to provide a decent amount of traffic to my sites.

            Respectfully,
            Tim
            ahhh.. so we're on the same track when it comes to approaching Ezine
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            • Profile picture of the author TimG
              Originally Posted by indexphp View Post

              ahhh.. so we're on the same track when it comes to approaching Ezine
              Looks that way - Years ago all I used was EZA to drive traffic to my websites. Then I started using more article directories and now I use a combination of the following as my battle plan:

              Article Directories
              Blogs
              Video Sites
              Directories
              RSS Feeds
              Social Bookmarking
              Perimeter Defense Systems
              Forward Operating Bases

              That small list above can generate a huge amount of traffic and backlink love when a synergy is created among all the components.

              Respectfully,
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  • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
    Awesome! Thanks for sharing Sylvia.

    Got to love it when people actually share some real proof.

    243 clicks per article on average. I'd definitely take that any day.

    Do you get these kind of results in huge markets like Internet Marketing, Weight Loss, and Wealth Building? Or do you find you have more success in smaller markets?
    Jason,
    I have 2 niche sites, that's it. All the rest are IM related markets. Product creation, article marketing, adsense etc. I would say it is for sure more successful with the smaller markets, but I still have good success with the IM ones.

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  • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
    Thanks Sylvia

    Jay and Rod, cool, thanks for sharing.

    Jay, when you say your traffic has spiked from distribution, reprinting, and syndication, how much traffic would you consider that to be?

    Rod, I'm trying to wrap my head around this...

    "Article marketing accounts for less than 2% of our overall traffic, but we deal in high volume, so it's still quite a bit of traffic."

    Why do you invest in your article and content writers over investing that money in scaling up your paid traffic? Do you see a bigger return from investing in content writers?

    I understand using articles and content as an authority builder, even though it may account for only 2% of your traffic. Does that come into play for you?

    I guess what I'm saying is... I can't wrap my head around why you'd invest in content writers if paid advertising could be scaled up more with that investment, or you could just throw it down on a d@#% good copywriter or sales letter vid script writer?

    Thanks for sharing insights into your biz. I appreciate it.
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  • Profile picture of the author donmccobb
    You've got more advice than you can possibly use in the above comments. However, I think that article marketing just takes time. You need to build an audience and a reputation. Once you do, you'll find you get much more traffic.

    Don McCobb
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    • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
      Originally Posted by donmccobb View Post

      You've got more advice than you can possibly use in the above comments. However, I think that article marketing just takes time. You need to build an audience and a reputation. Once you do, you'll find you get much more traffic.

      Don McCobb
      Thanks Don. Got any numbers to share?

      Taking on advice without the numbers to back it up... is how you waste A LOT of time, I find at least.
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  • Profile picture of the author Caiden
    Niche choice is everything when it comes to EZA traffic. Writing articles in the IM niche is really only worth doing for links building. The traffic the niche gets directly from EZA is low.

    If your looking for traffic and clicks from EZA then it's best to do a little research on which categories receive the most traffic and focus your efforts on those.

    The screenshot below shows the traffic from my last 11 articles. The vast majority of that traffic came within 48 hrs directly from EZA. As you can see it's a high traffic niche.

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    • Profile picture of the author TimG
      Originally Posted by Caiden View Post

      Niche choice is everything when it comes to EZA traffic. Writing articles in the IM niche is really only worth doing for links building. The traffic the niche gets directly from EZA is low.

      If your looking for traffic and clicks from EZA then it's best to do a little research on which categories receive the most traffic and focus your efforts on those.

      The screenshot below shows the traffic from my last 11 articles. The vast majority of that traffic came within 48 hrs directly from EZA. As you can see it's a high traffic niche.

      I've seen some good CTRs in my time but those are pretty darn impressive. If you can find a way to generate more traffic to the articles you have some fantastic lead generators on your hands.

      Respectfully,
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  • Profile picture of the author Crew Chief
    Originally Posted by JasonParker View Post

    Here's some results after publishing 11 articles yesterday...

    I'm wanting to give article marketing a fair shot. I've slammed it A LOT before haha...

    I'd like to see if it's worth my time doing over a couple other things I do.

    Not much traffic so far. ...They made me Platinum Author, so I guess articles are now getting approved quickly.... so it'll be easier to test.

    I know there are no set rules and it always depends... but can anyone offer any insights into how your first week of hardcore article marketing went?

    Did the traffic start to pick up and snowball a little? If yes, why and how did it happen?

    Doesn't seem to be a very quick way to generate traffic. Although I know it's a very high quality stream of traffic.

    And I'm wondering if traffic wont actually snowball since articles will get older and harder to find in on-site searches.
    The first thing you MUST realize is this; if you are only submitting articles to EZA, you ARE NOT engaging in article marketing...

    You are engaging in presenting your content to EZA readers.

    True Article Marketing puts you out there with multiple profiles and pen names with accounts at all of the top ADs, both on the 1st tier and 2nd tier and potentially on the 3rd tier.

    If you're really serious about AM, you will build your own network of Article Directories to submit your own articles to. Of course, your ADs are on different Class C IPs so that you maintain your link juice. With your own AD network, you can generate Backlinks at will.
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  • Profile picture of the author bsmith2
    I have found that keyword research is the key to getting high article views. I use the google adwords keyword tool. Hope this helps a little.
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  • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
    Some of the post in here are cool

    I wasn't going to comment because honestly I haven't given AM a good shot but after reading some good advice here, it made me think and came out with a few more questions I hope Tim can answer.

    1. What's the best most effective way to go about monetizing the clicks? Should we send them straight to offers, give freebies and sign them up to a list or both?

    - I know a lot of us would most probably say "Sign them up" but like Jason I like to hear it from someone who's actually got "hands on" experience.

    Nice thread by the way.

    Best,
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    • Profile picture of the author TimG
      Originally Posted by rapidscc View Post

      Some of the post in here are cool

      I wasn't going to comment because honestly I haven't given AM a good shot but after reading some good advice here, it made me think and came out with a few more questions I hope Tim can answer.

      1. What's the best most effective way to go about monetizing the clicks? Should we send them straight to offers, give freebies and sign them up to a list or both?

      - I know a lot of us would most probably say "Sign them up" but like Jason I like to hear it from someone who's actually got "hands on" experience.

      Nice thread by the way.

      Best,
      Where you send the traffic depends on the niche and your monetization method.

      If you're using adsense then sending them straight to the site seems to work best.

      If you're using CPA again, it most cases it seems to work best if you send them directly to the offer.

      When selling ebooks you really need to understand your niche in order to know where to send them. For example, acne ebooks and get your ex back ebooks seem to require additional exposure via an autoresponder series before buying so they need to be added to a list.

      Niches like preventing bed bugs, termites, roaches, spiders, lice and other critters do well for me having the reader sent directly to a page on my site that has an affiliate offer.

      Naturally, as you would expect if you are dabbling in the IM niche then building a list is almost critical to obtaining the sale although I have seen some marketers that have their articles on EZA go straight to their product.

      If you're looking for real concrete prrof then conduct some research on EZA. Take a look at the articles that are submitted for various niches and by various authors and see where they send the people that click on the links in their resource box.

      Take good notes so you can develop a dossier for each author and each niche you investigate/research. I think you may be surprised by what you find -

      Respectfully,
      Tim
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  • Profile picture of the author Ronak Shah
    Look, this is the golden rule...

    STRATEGY!!!!!


    If you're not getting traffic, It's because you aren't doing the right way..

    Do you do keyword research before you start deciding the topics for a niche..?

    Do you product research and competition research before you even decide to write a resource box?

    Do you make sure your articles highlight the most important aspects of your thought process to convince readers about your thought process?

    Do you make sure that your articles are what your customers really want to read?

    Or

    Are you writing articles that you think your customers need but really they don't?
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