3 Simple steps for Newbies who arent making any money!!

15 years ago

Good points,

I'd also suggest reading direct marketing books because DM and IM are very closely related.

Some titles:

Scientific Advertising
The Dan Kennedy No B.S. Series
Drayton Birds Books

Unsubscribing from lists is also a good idea. Pick 2 to 3 marketers who you admire and deep 6 the others.

For me that's Ken McCarthy, Marlon Sanders, and Drayton Bird.

Kevin

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Paul Ho

15 years ago

I agree, especially on point 3, nothing beats creating your own product and selling it. Somehow feels way more satisfying than being an affiliate..

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Guni 15 years ago

Thanks! Some great piece of advice, as we all know these facts but we keep them aside when we are just working too hard on making money.

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edhan 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Ho

I agree, especially on point 3, nothing beats creating your own product and selling it. Somehow feels way more satisfying than being an affiliate..

I do agree.

But for newbies, it will definitely be best for affiliate programs. It will help them to get started immediately. Building your own product will take time and support for it. So, be an affiliate and selling affiliate products can help you to earn fast cash.

Create a squeeze page to capture their emails before sending them to the affiliate page. That way you have an opportunity to sell them more products in future.
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Mnair

15 years ago

Hi,

Thanks for the advice. Really appreciated. I've found myself in the trap where I was involved in everything and anything... So, being laser focused is a good reminder.

Also, I'm passionate about cooking and "Food" obviously...and was thinking of making an e book about authentic South Indian Curry recipes that are easy to make... do you reckon something like this could fly???

Thanks again though...

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EvanScott

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Mnair

Hi,

Thanks for the advice. Really appreciated. I've found myself in the trap where I was involved in everything and anything... So, being laser focused is a good reminder.

Also, I'm passionate about cooking and "Food" obviously...and was thinking of making an e book about authentic South Indian Curry recipes that are easy to make... do you reckon something like this could fly???

Thanks again though...

Sound like it would be a great book! First I recommend doing some market research to see if you could actually sell it profitably. Even though the idea might sound amazing doesn't mean you'll make money on it.

The key is to research, find your market, figure out who your prospect is, get inside their heads and figure out what they want. Now you can create your product around what you already know your prospect wants.

That's when you'll be successful!

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onlineleben

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Mnair
Hi,

Thanks for the advice. Really appreciated. I've found myself in the trap where I was involved in everything and anything... So, being laser focused is a good reminder.

Also, I'm passionate about cooking and "Food" obviously...and was thinking of making an e book about authentic South Indian Curry recipes that are easy to make... do you reckon something like this could fly???

followed by:

Originally Posted by EvanScott

Sound like it would be a great book! First I recommend doing some market research to see if you could actually sell it profitably. Even though the idea might sound amazing doesn't mean you'll make money on it.

The key is to research, find your market, figure out who your prospect is, get inside their heads and figure out what they want. Now you can create your product around what you already know your prospect wants.

@Mnair
Setup a site with an opt-in form announcing your book and add maybe a little survey which recipe they would like the most.
When you have enough feedback, write the book and notifiy your list.
sell affiliate products (other cooking guides, recipe books, cooking gear) in the backend

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by EvanScott

3 Simple steps for Newbies who aren't making any money!! Just wanted to post a quick thread here under Mind Warriors on what you should do to start getting results in Internet Marketing.

Three simple steps:

1) Unsubscribe from 98 percent of the lists you are on.

They are only distracting you from being focused and productive. Email, Email, Email hell...Ahhhh..LOL. Stay on 1 or 2 lists from marketers that actually provide real value and are genuinely trying to help you. The only lists I am currently on is Frank Kern's, Mike Filsaime's and John Reese.

2) Focus on one thing at a time. If you have too many things going on at the same time you wont get anything done.

If your focused on different ideas and courses and are learning many things at once you just going to get overwhelmed and will not get anywhere. Pick one idea and business model and just attack it with laser like focus.

3) Sell Something! Yes, Wake up people the real money is in selling your own product.

its fine to be selling as an affiliate but the REAL money is in creating your own product and selling it. It can be in any niche. It can be a quick E-BOOK/REPORT or a small video course. The point is its that all the money is 100 percent yours and you have all the control.

I really hope this help you all who are struggling to get going.

Evan

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retirein12

15 years ago

Thank you, This is some great advice and can help all of us (marketers) who are trying to be successful on the internet.

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Matt Bard

15 years ago

I agree with edhan here, affiliate and capture email.

As far as focus goes, once you have your link that you want people to go to don't think of anything else other than getting people to that link.

Don't start reading about "cool" new programs, other ways to make money, how to get people to Twitter...

Just get people to your link. Eat, sleep, and drink your link.

Put it everywhere. Get it out in front of people. Talk about when you can. Make it the only thing you think about. Your link.

Once you start getting enough people to your link that you can tell if it is converting or not, then work on conversions but not before you get traffic to your link.

Think of your link as your check. It's money. It's the only thing that matters to you.

Your link.

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Oconnor1

15 years ago

Thanks for the advice!

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Michele Welch

15 years ago

Originally Posted by cjmo75

Here is my advice for newbies:

1. Read and learn as much from this forum other marketing forums (this one is easily the best) that you can.

2. Find one good niche and a corresponding Clickbank product to promote and focus 100% of your time on promoting that one product or service. It's much better to put 100% into one project than 20% into 5 projects.

3. Do not promote anything that has to do with affiliate marketing, internet marketing, makeing money online, make money blogging, or SEO. These niches are highly saturated and anyone other than experienced marketers won't be successful (many will ignore this advice anyway).

Instead, focus on lesser searched niches. Pick niches and keywords that get between 500-5000 searches per month and have less than 500,000 results on Google.

4. Get yourself a Hub Pages account. Write a great Hub about your niche, utilizing your chosen keywords and promoting a Clickbank product. Then write a summary article of the Hub (400-500 words) and submit it to all of the following article directories with a backlink to the Hub in your resource box.

Ezine Articles
Go Articles
Articles Base
Idea Marketers
Article Dashboard
Article Snatch

4. Get yourself a Blogger account and start a blog related to your niche. Write 2 related articles (300-500 words) and publish them on your blog. Include a link back to your Hub.

5. Write 4 more hubs and a corresponding summary article and publish it to the article directories.

6. Write two articles for every Hub and publish them to your blog. Link them back to the Hub.

7. Promote your blog by putting the links in forum signatures, and commenting on other related blogs. Use related, informative comments. Don't just write "good post" or your comment probably won't get published. Try to do this on highly trafficked blogs. You aren't so much doing this for backlinks as you are to try and get other blog readers to click over to your blog.

Do this 10-20 times and you'll make money. After you make your first Clickbank sale, find another product and repeat the process.

Tips:

1. Make sure you write a fantastic Hub. The idea is to get it on the first page of Google for your chosen niche and keywords.

2. You are writing one summary article for each Hub to submit to the article directories so you can backlink to the Hub. this will help push your Hub to the top of the search engine rankings.

3. You should always write two uinique articles related to every Hub and publish them to your Blogger blog with links back to the Hub.

4. For every product you choose to promote from Clickbank, you should have 5 great hubs, 5 articles published to all of those articles directories, and 10 articles on your niche Blogger blog.

5. For every new niche, start a new blog. It's very important that you only publish content to your niche blogs. Do not link to the Clickbank product, only to the Hubs, and only one link per article. Anything more you'll risk being flagged as a spam blog.

6. Your Hub is the place to put a link to the Clickbank product. Use the "links" module to do this, and only one Clickbank link per Hub. The idea is to provide content. Always put the link side by side with a picture (of the ebook if you want). Hubs that look like they are just trying to sell something don't score well and don't get indexed on Google.

7. If you can do this for 5 products, you'll have 25 hubs up and running, 25 articles published to 6 directories (150 articles), and 5 nich blogs with 10 articles on each (50 blog articles). you'll make money doing this. If you can get 500 visitors per month to each Hub, that's 2500 total visitors and you should make at least 10-15 Clickbank sales.

This takes work and the more Hubs and articles you have up and running, the better you'll do. I'm currently using this same method and making 25-30 commissions every month.

The best part is after everything is published, it runs on "autopilot".

WOW...thanks for taking the time out and writing this all out...some really great stuff here! Everyone definitely has some very good points especially about keeping focus and subscribing to only a few emails.

I started to get caught up into that and realized quickly that I was feeling like a hamster on a wheel running nowhere fast. Had to change that bad boy up

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FloridaRay

15 years ago

Thank you for the advice. I do tend to get distracted sometimes by other lists.

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b.super13

15 years ago

Hey Evan

Those are great tips. I think alot of people get distracted by all of the emails.

The best thing is to pick a business model and go with it.

Thanks again for the tips.

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15 years ago

@cjmo75 Thanks for writing this solid action plan.

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RentItNow

15 years ago

1. Agreed
2. Agreed
3. Sort of agree. First learn what does sell before wasting weeks on your own products.

I would add four, the most important lesson I learned from Yanik. Focus only on what people are actually buying. This takes research.

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Marhelper

15 years ago

Originally Posted by EvanScott

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2) Focus on one thing at a time. If you have too many things going on at the same time you wont get anything done.

I totally agree with this (the other two points as well). The one thing that seems to be in place for everyone that is successful in IM is the ability to really focus. That does not mean that you cannot do more than one thing at a time but it does mean that you are present and diligent when completing a specific task ...

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UniqueMind

15 years ago

Nice Evan.

And its an undeniable fact that "content" is king in promotion.

We have to write a lot or get content written, which obviously got to be
genuine and good. Even Cjmo75's post proves this.

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binko

15 years ago

Your first two tips are absolutely spot on. Most beginners are jumping around from one thing to the next (new offers, new tactics etc.). I've had (and still sometimes have) these problems.

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EvanScott

15 years ago

Originally Posted by binko

Your first two tips are absolutely spot on. Most beginners are jumping around from one thing to the next (new offers, new tactics etc.). I've had (and still sometimes have) these problems.

Whats wrong with the 3rd point?? The most money I have ever made has come from my own products!!

Of course, yes, market research is imperative when creating a product. Once the product is created if it has real value you will make money AND build a great list

By the way if anyone is looking to get into product creation I recommend Picking up something by Yanik Silver. He has been a great mentor.

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15 years ago

Great points I couldn't agree with you more.

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paulie888

15 years ago

Excellent advice there. I think that today, information overload is an even worse issue than it was just a scant few months ago. I have found that many newbies tend to oversubscribe to various lists, and this becomes a real distraction and takes away your focus, and it has the insidious effect of making you really become cynical/negative about everything IM related.

If you must remain subscribed, one thing you CAN do to remain productive is use the Leechblock add-on (for Firefox) that you can set up to block your email and social networking sites, etc. (your time-wasters) for a predefined timeframe, so that you can concentrate on productive tasks then.

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15 years ago

How do I "Thanks for the post" other then just saying thanks!?

Anyway THANKS!

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armanjackson

15 years ago

Actually, i have had a simple jobs.

No any business till that, but i wanna starts my own business.

Thanks for this useful posts.

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espresso 15 years ago

I am still a newbie and will consider myself one until I make money
but my main advice is as mentioned stick to one thing
It is so easy to get distracted and jump from one thing to another.
I did that for a long long time
I am now concentrate on two things CPA with PPC traffic and seoing über micro niches
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- tribros 15 years ago
  
  Some very nice tips above.
  
  The most important thing is...
  
  "TAKE ACTION!!"
  "TAKE ACTION!!"
  "TAKE ACTION!!"
  
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  Bryan 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by tribros
  
  Some very nice tips above.
  
  The most important thing is...
  
  "TAKE ACTION!!"
  "TAKE ACTION!!"
  "TAKE ACTION!!"
  
  Well, people are perfectly capable of taking action and are completely willing... especially when it is to improve their life. People take action everyday. The problem lies here... people will NOT take action towards a certain direction if they are confused. Some people try things expecting a certain result that Guru "X" told them would work but it didn't work. I don't think the failure rate among those in internet marketing is purely because they don't "take action". The Guru sales letters say that is the issue, but there is much more too it than that.
  
  If a person got stuck with something they couldn't sort out at work or school... they would get a demonstration on how to do it the right way. The mind will not let a person do something that they don't understand. Only when the "light" comes on and they know how to go forward with something, will they generally accomplish something successfully. People can be their own enemies sometimes and allow there mindset to hold them back, but there is a bigger issue here than people just not taking action.
  
  There is so much conflicting advise floating around or important information that is left out, that no wonder so many people are struggling. Another issue could be that the much that is taught in IM is taught by opportunists not teachers. The passion of most "Guru's" is to feed the dreams and take the money -- not to help people become successful. It even be nice if people could support their products and answer their emails, but many don't or are very blunt when they do.
  
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  EvanScott 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by tribros
  
  Some very nice tips above.
  
  The most important thing is...
  
  "TAKE ACTION!!"
  "TAKE ACTION!!"
  "TAKE ACTION!!"
  
  I LIKE IT........HAHA
  
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duia

15 years ago

I must say that all your tips are good points. However, it is easier said than done.
For me, the best way to make money online is to start niche blogs and earn money from writing paid reviews, etc.

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Kailness

15 years ago

Good points, but it's very hard for someone like me with almost no knowledge about IM to focus on something with the EXCESS of information that can be found in this forum

P

I'll keep learning a little bit more and then I'll decide what to do next and stick to it.

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Javi

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Bryan 15 years ago

1. Read and learn as much from this forum other marketing forums (this one is easily the best) that you can.

That's probably the biggest cause of confusion and information load. Trying to learn as much as you can cause more harm. If I would have known that when I first started out, I would have been further ahead. You just need to know enough to get you started. You will learn much more by experience. Experiential knowledge is far greater than head knowledge.

With that said... do Not be afraid of failure or making mistakes. It is going to happen. I think many people think and myself included at one point, thought I needed more knowledge. There are so many IM products that sell the idea of skipping the mistakes or getting that piece of missing knowledge that can make the difference, but generally they don't provide all they mention is sales copy.

Most people have an idea of what they need to do, but need to work it out in a way that makes sense to them. You gotta put one foot in front of the other. If there is something you don't quite understand to take the next step, search it in Google or ask a question on the forum.

If you try to "learn as much from this forum other marketing forums..." you will take WAY too long to get started and will end up getting confused. It's good to get foundational training from a decent course or membership and then create your own action plan. You may have to fill gaps as you plan out your course of action by asking questions.

Focus is EXTREMELY important, and I still need work with this and have come to the point to understand how vital it is for me to be very clear of what I need to accomplish have an exact action plan on how I need to go about it.

I find the best way for me to get on track is to write out my OWN action plan with all the specific steps I need to go about a certain campaign/project. I write it out in my own words in numbered bullet form with Microsoft word.

Whenever a main point has some other sub task or such, I create sub bullet points by hitting the tab key. Now, each person is different so the action plan has to make sense to you and if you are a very detail person and struggle with being focused, you may want to do what I do and detail all the tasks in your own words--and break down into sub bullets/tasks.

Go over it and add or re-arrange them(MS Word rearranges the numbers automatically) to make sense if needed and then get started with point 1.

I hope this helps.
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15 years ago

That's great advice. I found that I was on too many e-mail lists when I started and that made me get distracted because of the information overload and everyone trying to sell you on their product. I found the best thing for a new person is to be on someone's list who provides value for you, and pick one marketing strategy to learn at a time. There are many strategies out there. A new person should pick one and stay focused on it. Once they got that strategy mastered, throw in another strategy to stack on top of the first strategy. Before you know it, everything you learned will be compounding on top of each other.

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vegaschk

15 years ago

great pieces of advice! I'm u nsubscribing immediatly to everyone whose content i dont really care for...

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Kailness

15 years ago

Your post has been very helpful to me Bryan.

In fact, I was a little bit worried about making mistakes in my first action on IM (yet to come), and I've tried these 2 days to learn, learn and learn but the information here is endless so I'll better start as soon as I decide what to do first, without being afraid of possible mistakes.

Regards,
Javi

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lilgrace

15 years ago

Here is a good video by yellowboy/Mario Brown! I have a to do list that is 20 items long...since watching it I have crossed of over half of them!!

http://www.warriorforum.com/mind-war...marketing.html

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Sylviane

15 years ago

Very good points.

Getting rid of all the lists that are JUST trying to sell you something without offering any kind of valuable information should be out.

Creating your own product is the best thing you can do for your online business. No worry of the product being a complete different product from the time you started advertising it all over the place and discovering all of a sudden that it's a whole different product 3 months later. Yes, it happens! It happened to me recently. (An EBook that became an ongoing monthly fee program) Is that a change or what?

This is why it is very important that you check the products that you are selling as an affiliate once in a while. Just to make sure that you are still selling what you intended at the beginning.

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tonyway25

15 years ago

very nice article for us newbies.i have read so much that i dnt know excertly where to start.but from this article ,i think iam moved.thanks.

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Dedicated Mom

15 years ago

Thank you for the info. I am new to the online money making business and it can be very confusing. Many of the work at home kits that I buy are full of outdated information so it can be hard to follow through with their programs. I'll try this method!!!

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Simon Haestoe 15 years ago

"Just to make sure that you are still selling what you intended at the beginning."<--- haha, this sounds fun. But I know what you mean -- not that I have experienced it, but I have a product that I'm thinking of creating, which I have been going back and forth on whether I should make an e-book or email-course out of. So get what you mean.

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TheGuruHub

15 years ago

Keep it simple and get that first 10 - 15 page ebook out there and slap a PayPal buy now button on it and go. Even if you just charge $5 for it, make a sale. It will fuel your desire to continue on.

So many people try to hit the home run first and end up losing interest because the product never makes it to market. Start real small to get going and then ramp up.

If anyone out there is having trouble writing a short 10-15 page ebook, send me an email and I will walk you through how to have an ebook done this weekend.

Nothing for sale, I'll just type it out in your email reply (unless I get 10,000 requests...lol) trying to help.

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15 years ago

Words of wisdom in a nutshell - thanks for the post.

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davidfstyles

15 years ago

Well said Evan... personally what I've found works is spending time developing and marketing my own products. Full-stop.

And if I feel I need to know something... then I actively go and search for it. Getting off email lists a few years ago saved me so much time.

David.

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InstantOnlinePro

15 years ago

Originally Posted by cjmo75

Here is my advice for newbies:

1. Read and learn as much from this forum other marketing forums (this one is easily the best) that you can.

2. Find one good niche and a corresponding Clickbank product to promote and focus 100% of your time on promoting that one product or service. It's much better to put 100% into one project than 20% into 5 projects.

3. Do not promote anything that has to do with affiliate marketing, internet marketing, makeing money online, make money blogging, or SEO. These niches are highly saturated and anyone other than experienced marketers won't be successful (many will ignore this advice anyway).

Instead, focus on lesser searched niches. Pick niches and keywords that get between 500-5000 searches per month and have less than 500,000 results on Google.

4. Get yourself a Hub Pages account. Write a great Hub about your niche, utilizing your chosen keywords and promoting a Clickbank product. Then write a summary article of the Hub (400-500 words) and submit it to all of the following article directories with a backlink to the Hub in your resource box.

Ezine Articles
Go Articles
Articles Base
Idea Marketers
Article Dashboard
Article Snatch

4. Get yourself a Blogger account and start a blog related to your niche. Write 2 related articles (300-500 words) and publish them on your blog. Include a link back to your Hub.

5. Write 4 more hubs and a corresponding summary article and publish it to the article directories.

6. Write two articles for every Hub and publish them to your blog. Link them back to the Hub.

7. Promote your blog by putting the links in forum signatures, and commenting on other related blogs. Use related, informative comments. Don't just write "good post" or your comment probably won't get published. Try to do this on highly trafficked blogs. You aren't so much doing this for backlinks as you are to try and get other blog readers to click over to your blog.

Do this 10-20 times and you'll make money. After you make your first Clickbank sale, find another product and repeat the process.

Tips:

1. Make sure you write a fantastic Hub. The idea is to get it on the first page of Google for your chosen niche and keywords.

2. You are writing one summary article for each Hub to submit to the article directories so you can backlink to the Hub. this will help push your Hub to the top of the search engine rankings.

3. You should always write two uinique articles related to every Hub and publish them to your Blogger blog with links back to the Hub.

4. For every product you choose to promote from Clickbank, you should have 5 great hubs, 5 articles published to all of those articles directories, and 10 articles on your niche Blogger blog.

5. For every new niche, start a new blog. It's very important that you only publish content to your niche blogs. Do not link to the Clickbank product, only to the Hubs, and only one link per article. Anything more you'll risk being flagged as a spam blog.

6. Your Hub is the place to put a link to the Clickbank product. Use the "links" module to do this, and only one Clickbank link per Hub. The idea is to provide content. Always put the link side by side with a picture (of the ebook if you want). Hubs that look like they are just trying to sell something don't score well and don't get indexed on Google.

7. If you can do this for 5 products, you'll have 25 hubs up and running, 25 articles published to 6 directories (150 articles), and 5 nich blogs with 10 articles on each (50 blog articles). you'll make money doing this. If you can get 500 visitors per month to each Hub, that's 2500 total visitors and you should make at least 10-15 Clickbank sales.

This takes work and the more Hubs and articles you have up and running, the better you'll do. I'm currently using this same method and making 25-30 commissions every month.

The best part is after everything is published, it runs on "autopilot".

That is like 7,8,10 tips! Good on you and thank you for sharing.

Brian

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chainy

15 years ago

Thanx guys for all theses useful suggestions. But can someone explain to me what it means to open a Hub page account and write a Hub about my niche product?

thanx

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Rednisy 15 years ago

Thank you so much for your advices. They are invaluable to me because I just want to start making money on the web and having hard time doing it.
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- JAIDEEP2959 15 years ago
  
  Third point is very important.
  
  You can sell videos rather than ebooks as it sells fast.
  
  Video creation is not at all difficult.
  
  Good Luck.
  
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fated82

15 years ago

Great advice. I read somewhere here and it says that any system we see on this forum can make us money...the real key is to pick something suitable and build on it consistently. That will require discipline and hard work.....

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Adam Goldman

15 years ago

I've been into affiliate marketing up until now.
Hoping to create my first product soon

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