Way Better Than Ezine Articles...Why Aren't More of Us Using This?

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I just got signed up today at Examiner.com. They are an article site, kind of like EzineArticles. Associated Content is probably a better comparison

However, they pay for content. Some people are making over $3000 a month just from author income there.

AND you can backlink to multiple sites in your article

AND they allow affiliate links.

AND they don't check if you have used the article previously

AND you keep your article rights

AND Google loves this site (especially Google News)

Anyways, head over to Examiner.com and click on the Write for us link on the right side. You have to pick a city and topic. When you sign up, on page 2 there is a "referred by" area. I would be honored if you mention that you were referred by [removed by moderator] as they also pay author referral bonuses.
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  • Profile picture of the author howinfo
    Had a look, looks quite professional. For some reason newer heard of it before.
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    • Profile picture of the author sega001
      Thanks for the share going to check it out now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Ramsey
    With eZine cracking down over the past few months, this looks like a rock solid alternative.

    Thanks for posting this.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      Do they pay upfront for articles or only for views? I've already started the application anyway but couldn't find a link to what the payment is.

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      • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
        Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

        Do they pay upfront for articles or only for views? I've already started the application anyway but couldn't find a link to what the payment is.

        Tina
        Tina,

        I've been reading their TOS, and exploring a bit, and I can't seem to find this information either....

        This jumps into a whole 'nother issue for me....(I seem to be the only one that makes a fuss about it though....lol....)....that is payment distribution and allocation transparency....

        There are a few very popular websites that won't even tell writers how much they pay them.....well, I haven't seen this issue with sites that pay a "Flat-fee" per article (makes sense, since you have to agree on some kind of fee for the transaction of writing and rights....)...

        On the other hand, it's the residual sites that always talk about "potential" and throw out case studies of high earning writers, however, some fail to tell writers how much of a % of advertisement revenue they even share with writers....

        Would you work at McDonald's if they didn't tell you how much they paid you? I wouldn't, either....

        I Googled Examiner and found a handful of case studies.....one was upwards of $3,000+ (as the initial poster had said), but, although impressive, in a way, it is a bit irrelevant, without knowing more details about the revenue share....

        For example...

        What if you earned $3,000+/month YET found out that you were only earning 30-50% of the advertisements generated revenue on your hosted content? Sure, I'd be happy to some extent because $3,000 is a nice handful of cash to bring home each month....HOWEVER....I wouldn't be too happy if I found that that $3,000 earned was only the result of a 30-50% revenue share....

        ....unfortunately, this lack of transparency doesn't seem to bother as many people as it does me....
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        • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
          Personally, I didn't sign up for the money as much as the ability to link back to my actual site. I'm thinking the backlinks will be just as or more valuable than the extra few cents I might get in Adsense income.

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          • Profile picture of the author cheyingtan
            Another website that paying for your articles is Find Health, Education, Science & Technology Articles, Reviews, How-To and Tech Tips At Bright Hub - Apply To Be A Writer Today!
            ,never use it before but i heard they pay $10 per approved article.

            Hope this help...enjoy

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          • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
            Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

            Personally, I didn't sign up for the money as much as the ability to link back to my actual site. I'm thinking the backlinks will be just as or more valuable than the extra few cents I might get in Adsense income.

            Tina
            The emerging business models, that offer a % of revenue share ON TOP of the search engine authority, will give writers the best of both worlds: the ability to link back to your actual site/blog, catapult off the search engine authority AND earn from the revenue share....

            Watching this industry evolve has been pretty interesting...
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          • Profile picture of the author janisv
            Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

            Personally, I didn't sign up for the money as much as the ability to link back to my actual site. I'm thinking the backlinks will be just as or more valuable than the extra few cents I might get in Adsense income.

            Tina

            I agree with Tina; however, isn't PR important for the quality of your backlinks?...It seems this page has 0 PR
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            • Profile picture of the author cscarpero
              Originally Posted by janisv View Post

              I agree with Tina; however, isn't PR important for the quality of your backlinks?...It seems this page has 0 PR

              Actually the Examiner home page has a pr of 5. Google News picks it up well too.
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  • Profile picture of the author CACruiser
    Thank's Carlos---The site does look nice and I will give a try!
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  • Profile picture of the author chandan_dutta
    Thanks for the information. Surely I will try now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    Looks interesting,

    I'm gonna check it out
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  • Profile picture of the author Avo19
    Dunno if mentioned before, but another place asking for articles. Paying $20/article if accepted. Have never used them, just passing the info along. LoveToKnow - Everything you would LoveToKnow
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      thank you for sharing, I will definitely check them out..
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      • Profile picture of the author SuzanneR
        I've filled out 1099 forms before. If they want me to fill out the form--they should send it and explain what they're doing.

        People are advised to be careful about whom they give their SS# to. And with good cause. This company should know better.
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        • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
          Originally Posted by SuzanneR View Post

          I've filled out 1099 forms before. If they want me to fill out the form--they should send it and explain what they're doing.

          People are advised to be careful about whom they give their SS# to. And with good cause. This company should know better.
          Yeah, they should...

          Shady, at best...

          I would never ever ever sign up for a site that required my SS#.....
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          • Profile picture of the author Terry Crim
            Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

            Yeah, they should...

            Shady, at best...

            I would never ever ever sign up for a site that required my SS#.....
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            Then I take it you are not an affiliate for any products from clickbank, CJ and
            do not offer your own affiliate program for your own products via your own affiliate system such as JROX and also do not have a paypal account?

            Have you ever provided any outsourcing work to anyone and were paid for the work you did for them?

            In 2011, there is a proposed IRS tax form addendum being proposed that will require all businesses that pay outsource workers and I assume affiliates would fit into this as well, that would require PROOF or what you paid out and to whom.

            The only way to do this is to collect personal information such as SSN or TAX ID information along with address and name of every single individual or business entity that you paid.

            Recently Mike Filsaime reported that he was audited by the IRS and was unable to provide this evidence, SSN#'s and associated information to the IRS. He had to REPAY the money to the IRS in form of back taxes because he could not prove the "income" was not actually income but instead paid out to affiliates.

            It isn't really a debate as to IF collecting SSN# and identifiable personal information associated to that number and person will be required to be collected it is more a matter of WHEN you start collecting it.

            The $600.00 limit in my opinion is not going to be the limit soon and ALL monies paid will have to be reported, collected and tallied by each PERSON, Business Entity and if you can't prove that you paid so and so the affiliate commission then be prepared to have to pay taxes on all revenue coming into your accounts paypal, merchant accounts etc... and where it all goes out and "PROVE IT" or pay taxes on this monies.

            That is why SSN and Tax ID numbers are required by businesses that pay monies. If you did not want to provide that information and yet still be allowed to post your content to their sites, I am sure you could arrange that with them and they keep all monies via advertising earned to themselves.

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            In my opinion of submitting content to other sites that you do not own, such as EZA or any other sites, once you submit your content to these sites YOU lose all control over the content. IF they want to edit the content, shorten the article, remove the resource box they can if they choose. You give up all rights to your content once it is submitted.

            NO NO NO... you say, no way in hell would I ever give up my copyright or ownership of my article. I wrote it and it is MINE...

            Hmmmm... By default you maybe correct UNLESS they specifically state in their policy something different. Though my view of submitting content to resources that are not mine is that it is THEIR house, their viewership, their readers and they should have every right to protect and provide the quality of their resource.

            You can't tell me that submitting to a 3rd party my content that they do not have the same access to edit, delete it as I do. In some cases once it is submitted that's it, you can't go back and change it. Depends on the system etc...

            If you want to totally control your content, then develop your own resources, blogs, article directories etc...

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            About background checks...

            It totally makes sense to me that they would do this. PROVE you are who you say you are, protect the legitimacy of the resource. From what I gather from this thread it is a localized system where you write based on the location then it seems an extra level of protection for their consumer / reader base.

            From a marketing stand point it would totally be a plus to readers to know that the people writing for this site are thoroughly checked out. Will help to safe gaurd against the Craigslist situations where some where targeting specific groups to harm them, rip them off etc...

            Lets say, someone writes about making money from the internet in the local chicago area. The articles seem good and the author gets contacted by readers either directly or through the writers website. The author then solicits monies from these people and NEVER delivers on whatever it is was promised to them.

            Guess who will get bad mouthed? Not just the author I suspect.

            So, it totally makes sense to do a background check on the authors. We may see other sites follow this as well, I would not be surprised.

            I don't know. Scam... Shady... I don't get why these are automatic assumptions by many here at WF. I think some of you spend too much time involved in the few situations out there and people that are scammers and focus too much time on these things, become jaded or whatever and label everything with same brush.

            I am not saying don't be cautious but come on... build more steps in your view than just white or black, good or evil. That is my view on what I see here A LOT... preaching to empty chairs maybe.

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            I didn't read through the sites, viewed the OP site and got a NetFlix popup, so figured it was a more corporate environment to the site in question. Looked at the front page and figured right, though the background check thing relieved my thoughts about shady practices.

            Interesting that CJ the commission is $5 while going through them directly the referral is $50. Says something about CJ doesn't it or not?


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    Thanks going to check this out..
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  • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
    Sounded good but tried a few pages and most of them won't even load. Ratty site !! I could easily be wrong but nothing worked with it so far.

    I left 3 tabs loading in ff and went through a few other tabs doing other things. Half an hour later came back and the tabs were still waiting. Also seems to be set up in a goofy way.
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  • Profile picture of the author juniorbiz
    Thanks for sharing, going to sign up under you Carlos.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ty Neal
      Thanks for Sharing, I'm about to check it out now
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      • Profile picture of the author All Night Cafe
        I checked it out. Liked what I saw.

        Sign-up and am going thru the application
        process.
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      • Profile picture of the author Margaret Arumugam
        Looks like you need to be a resident of US or Canada to sign up for Examiner. They ask for the phone number too.
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          • Profile picture of the author J Bold
            Originally Posted by paulbarrs View Post

            Huh? Bummer! I'l have to check it out, but I hope it's not just another site that think intelligent people don't live outside of the US of A.

            - Paul
            Ya, that's exactly what they're trying to say. But you forgot they accept Canadians, as well. Or perhaps they're saying Aussies jump to conclusions so we won't accept them for sure but just to make it look like we're not singling out Aussies we will exclude all not from US or Canada. (just joking)

            In reality, I think the site wants writers who live in US cities because it wants people to write about different aspects of physically LIVING in that city. Such as the politics of that city, the restaurants of that city, things to do in that city, etc. Makes perfect sense that they'd actually want people living there, so looks like your initial conclusions is incorrect. Perhaps you could suggest they branch out to include other countries like Australia.

            Anyway, as for this topic, what a great way for the OP to make money! Compare a site to ezine articles, a well known article marketing site for people on this forum, to a new site that is little like ezine articles in actuality. Vaguely (i say vaguely because numerous posters are talking about not being able to figure out how to make money from the site) refer to being able to get money from the site and in the end get $50 for each referral from this topic! Great idea, buddy, great way to sneakily make some extra money off the members here.

            However, looks like if you can be accepted, and can give real quality articles, you can at least get a link back to your site from your bio, though I have seen no evidence of affiliate links or self serving links in articles, but I can't spend time going through any more articles to figure it out. Not completely useless but the motives of this thread seem self-serving to me at the moment.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mrs S
          Originally Posted by Margaret Arumugam View Post

          Looks like you need to be a resident of US or Canada to sign up for Examiner. They ask for the phone number too.
          Oh well - this one looked promising.
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          • Profile picture of the author ajbarnes777
            Thanks for sharing. I've been looking for EZA alternatives lately and this seems like a good one. Will take a look further.

            In the mean time, I've been doing very well with ArticlesBase.com. Although the links are nofollow, my articles still rank VERY well in the SERPS and I make similar conversions compared with EZA. So, if anyone wants to lower their blood pressure - - I give a thumbs up with ArticlesBase.

            Thanks again for the share.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dital
          Originally Posted by Margaret Arumugam View Post

          Looks like you need to be a resident of US or Canada to sign up for Examiner. They ask for the phone number too.

          Haven't they heard about GLOBALIZATION?
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    • Profile picture of the author cscarpero
      Originally Posted by juniorbiz View Post

      Thanks for sharing, going to sign up under you Carlos.
      Thanks I appreciate it!
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  • Profile picture of the author ERHook
    Looks like an interesting site, cant wait to delve deeper into it.
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  • Is it really an alternative? I dont see how you can post articles pointing to an affiliate website. I picked my local city, but most all the openings were just for local news.

    Anyway, I just went through the initail process. It says it could be TWO WEEKS before some one reviews my application.

    We will see.
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  • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
    Originally Posted by cscarpero View Post

    I just got signed up today at Examiner.com. They are an article site, kind of like EzineArticles. Associated Content is probably a better comparison

    However, they pay for content. Some people are making over $3000 a month just from author income there.

    AND you can backlink to multiple sites in your article

    AND they allow affiliate links.

    AND they don't check if you have used the article previously

    AND you keep your article rights

    AND Google loves this site (especially Google News)

    Anyways, head over to Examiner.com and click on the Write for us link on the right side. You have to pick a city and topic. When you sign up, on page 2 there is a "referred by" area. I would be honored if you mention that you were referred by Carlos Scarpero as they also pay author referral bonuses.
    "Some people are making over $3000 a month just from author income there."

    Who?

    Not saying I disagree with you....but, are these very rare case studies, or are quite a few people earning this much?...

    The reason I ask is because some of the highest ranking sites parade around $1,000+/month case studies, however, they are very rare...intended to suck people into writing and submitting content to their site....
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    • Profile picture of the author George185
      People make over $3000 per month there because they pay fifty dollars for a referral. I can't understand why they would pay that much, but they do. So, refer 60 authors and you are done. They pay about $.01 per view, which is pretty good. The only problem is that you really can't stray from your examiner position. If you are the Tucson gardening Examiner, you have to write about Gardening in Tucson.
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    Originally Posted by cscarpero View Post

    I just got signed up today at Examiner.com. They are an article site, kind of like EzineArticles. Associated Content is probably a better comparison

    However, they pay for content. Some people are making over $3000 a month just from author income there.

    AND you can backlink to multiple sites in your article

    AND they allow affiliate links.

    AND they don't check if you have used the article previously

    AND you keep your article rights

    AND Google loves this site (especially Google News)

    Anyways, head over to Examiner.com and click on the Write for us link on the right side. You have to pick a city and topic. When you sign up, on page 2 there is a "referred by" area. I would be honored if you mention that you were referred by Carlos Scarpero as they also pay author referral bonuses.
    cscarpero,

    I will openly admit that I don't write for Examiner....I do/have written for quite a few other websites though, and some shady dealings and poor business ethics, have caused me to openly research and be skeptical of ANY website where one can submit content to....

    I just see writing as a pretty time consuming endeavor sometimes, and where I come from time=money. Besides, I think for myself, and other Warriors may feel this way as well, I think it's important to thoroughly research ANY website before agreeing to submit content.

    Along with your post, I immediately jumped over to their site and have been reviewing their TOS/FAQs...

    How exactly to they share revenue, if you don't me asking? Is it on a flat-fee-per article, or residual (lifetime or not) basis?

    These things are important to know...
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    • Profile picture of the author cscarpero
      They pay by the page view and from subscribers. I'm averaging about a penny a page view. There's also a $1 an article bonus for local articles that meet certain qualifications and other bonuses if your article gets sponsored.

      Top person makes actually about $10k a month with it and this is documented in their forum. I read about one person that wrote about a hot topic (Michelle Obama) and made $300 in just a couple days from the one article when Google News picked it up.

      Do most make less? Well, yeah, but honestly I'm just using this to drive traffic to my blog and the $$$ is just a nice bonus. I'm making about 14 cts a day from my first article there which isn't bad considering I just cut and pasted an article from my blog and haven't promoted it at all yet.




      Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

      cscarpero,

      I will openly admit that I don't write for Examiner....I do/have written for quite a few other websites though, and some shady dealings and poor business ethics, have caused me to openly research and be skeptical of ANY website where one can submit content to....

      I just see writing as a pretty time consuming endeavor sometimes, and where I come from time=money. Besides, I think for myself, and other Warriors may feel this way as well, I think it's important to thoroughly research ANY website before agreeing to submit content.

      Along with your post, I immediately jumped over to their site and have been reviewing their TOS/FAQs...

      How exactly to they share revenue, if you don't me asking? Is it on a flat-fee-per article, or residual (lifetime or not) basis?

      These things are important to know...
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by anniefang View Post

      I think Ezine articles are really good!Maybe yous are better,but I should have a try.But I think that need some time to tell!
      Anniefang,

      For quite some time, internet marketers have promoted Ezine Articles.....they have been around for a while, and as a result have some GREAT search engine authority that have proven to be beneficial....

      The funny thing is, while they do give IMers a tremendous amount of search engine authority (and great visibility of their businesses), there are emerging business models that do the same thing BUT also offer a % of revenue share from all their hosted advertisement...

      (EZA doesn't give writers any cut of their ads...)

      Now, I know there are individuals (who need to earn a living) that are behind these websites....however, I am just pointing out that there is PLENTY of room for emerging competition to swipe away market share and writers....

      Ultimately, people go wherever they receive the MOST in return. When one of my friends contacted EZA about how much revenue share they gave to writers, they responded with something similar to "Why should we give people anything? We already give them enough...."

      They do give ALOT...however, emerging websites (I can name a few right now), give MORE....and, as the internet continues to evolve, you'll find that EZA will either have to adapt or innovate in order to stay competitive...
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      • Profile picture of the author adesbarats
        Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post


        They do give ALOT...however, emerging websites (I can name a few right now), give MORE....and, as the internet continues to evolve, you'll find that EZA will either have to adapt or innovate in order to stay competitive...
        Could you give me a list of a few emerging article submission sites that pay and are in your opinion (and I won't hold you to it!) seem legit?
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        • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
          Originally Posted by adesbarats View Post

          Could you give me a list of a few emerging article submission sites that pay and are in your opinion (and I won't hold you to it!) seem legit?
          adesbarats,

          It depends on what people are looking for and what they NEED....

          If someone needs $15 immediately, there are sites that will pay them based on a flat fee revenue scheme.

          On the other hand, I am a big proponent of the lifetime residuals business model for a variety of reasons.

          Here is a chart I have been developing, with the blogger Kim, from crunchydata.com....

          http://crunchydata.com/content-sites.htm

          Bear in mind, right now we DO have "Examiner" as recommended, however, that might change if I can't get to the bottom of how exactly their revenue share works.....

          It's very difficult to say that any one site is the BEST over another site....because there are so many things to consider.....

          In no particular order:

          1) Transparency of Revenue Share
          2) Current Search Engine Authority/ Viewership
          3) Management, and business practices (Ethical, etc?)
          4) Can international writers write and be paid?
          5) Referral bonus fees
          6) Actual % of revenue share....
          7) The ability to publish in Multiple Article Formats
          8) Does Author Retain Copyright?

          ...and the list goes on and on....

          .......also, if we continue to talk about this, I need to tread softly because I'll openly admit that I have a vested interest in the success of one particular site.....in order to remain impartial, I've gone to great lengths to construct this chart (and another chart) and make it as accurate and unbiased as possible....

          (With my signature line, it's pretty much impossible to avoid this, however, the research has been done, and I hope Warriors can benefit from it.....rather than have to tread through TOS, FAQs, and actually contacting companies for more information on their operations....)

          Doesn't it make sense to gravitate to the places that offer people the MOST? It does to me.
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          • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
            Where are you people getting your numbers from? They don't pay $50 per referral, it's $5.

            http://www.examiner.com/assets/affiliates.cfm

            Earning money is not the only reason to utilize this site or others like it. It is a good way to get backlinks to your site, however, and you can even sell directly from your article if you want.

            Some of the people in this thread are not going to say anything good about any site except the ones they personally favor and promote. Think about this as you read the responses in this thread.

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            • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
              Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

              Where are you people getting your numbers from? They don't pay $50 per referral, it's $5.

              http://www.examiner.com/assets/affiliates.cfm

              Earning money is not the only reason to utilize this site or others like it. It is a good way to get backlinks to your site, however, and you can even sell directly from your article if you want.

              Some of the people in this thread are not going to say anything good about any site except the ones they personally favor and promote. Think about this as you read the responses in this thread.

              Tina
              $50 did seem a little steep, Tina....

              I guess, for someone who tried to do alot of research (for myself and others), I'm guilty of not questioning that amount....however, part of me didn't think it was impossible....

              There are distinct differences in many sites (as I had posted in my previous comment)....and, I think it's up to people to go to the place that offers them the most, that can accomodate them....

              Some places may not accept international writers, while others do....there are alot of things to consider...
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            • Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

              Where are you people getting your numbers from? They don't pay $50 per referral, it's $5.

              http://www.examiner.com/assets/affiliates.cfm

              Earning money is not the only reason to utilize this site or others like it. It is a good way to get backlinks to your site, however, and you can even sell directly from your article if you want.

              Some of the people in this thread are not going to say anything good about any site except the ones they personally favor and promote. Think about this as you read the responses in this thread.

              Tina

              Hey Tina,

              I went through the little applicatoin process. I got an email from the Examiner. This is a snippet that came directly from them:

              "...makes no guarantees as to minimum payment. Focusing on providing robust, useful, topic-specific content that grows your readership and encourages your readers to want to read more than one article is the surest way to maximize your earnings. Payments are processed monthly. As we work to reward Examiners in more ways, we are continuing to offer a referral bonus program, which pays $50 to an Examiner each time one of their friends is selected to be an Examiner. The details and rules of the program are available on our Examiner support site, Epicenter. Only Examiners who have posted their first article and have been activated qualify to participate."

              Isnt it obvious now that the OP hasnt stopped back by one time, that he only started this thread to get people to sign up? Who else creates a good thread like this, never to return?
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            • Profile picture of the author bocephus
              Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post


              Earning money is not the only reason to utilize this site or others like it. It is a good way to get backlinks to your site, however, and you can even sell directly from your article if you want.

              Some of the people in this thread are not going to say anything good about any site except the ones they personally favor and promote. Think about this as you read the responses in this thread.

              Tina
              I would agree with you on this if my only niche was "Automotivie" in Memphis, Tennessee. If you can only sign up for one topic in one city, it seems that you might find this limitation a bit restrictive if you are working in more than one niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    I have my own article directory and look to get it going BUT I must say over the years there have been sooo many people putting EZA down but over time they continue to stand the test of time. The very fact that they are so picky makes them what they are IMO.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      Originally Posted by Marhelper View Post

      I have my own article directory and look to get it going BUT I must say over the years there have been sooo many people putting EZA down but over time they continue to stand the test of time. The very fact that they are so picky makes them what they are IMO.
      Of course, the higher the PR, the better. But all backlinks are good as long as they aren't from "bad neighborhoods". It's best to have a mix of high and low PR links to look more natural, anyway.

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      • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
        Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

        Of course, the higher the PR, the better. But all backlinks are good as long as they aren't from "bad neighborhoods". It's best to have a mix of high and low PR links to look more natural, anyway.

        Tina
        I hear you on that and agree totally. I was referring to those that say stuff like, "Way Better Than Ezine Articles."
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        • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
          I accidentally quoted the wrong post...lol. That was supposed to be in response to a post above yours.

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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by Marhelper View Post

      I have my own article directory and look to get it going BUT I must say over the years there have been sooo many people putting EZA down but over time they continue to stand the test of time. The very fact that they are so picky makes them what they are IMO.
      Why have people put them down?

      I don't use them....but, if they are interested in ensure the quality of their database, then KUDOS to them!
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  • Profile picture of the author dany1987r
    Thanks for this share never heard about the website before will look into it
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  • Profile picture of the author Dalun
    good share, will take a look to see if it delivers what it promises
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  • Profile picture of the author Kecia
    Examiner isn't like EzineArticles.com.

    To apply, you have to select topics from the list available in your city. You can also suggest a topic if it is not available for your city. They usually only have 1-2 people per topic, and a lot of the good ones are already taken for the bigger cities.

    If you get approved, you are only approved to write about that one topic. You can't just sign up and then write about anything you want like you can at EzineArticles.com Later on, you can apply for a second topic, but I've heard most people never hear back when they apply for a second one.

    The pay is monthly, and it's "per view." Not sure about the rates, because I do not write for them. I am simply passing along information from several of writers who do write for them.

    This site is more for writers wanting to earn a residual income from their articles getting viewed, not from affiliate links.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by Kecia08 View Post

      Examiner isn't like EzineArticles.com.

      To apply, you have to select topics from the list available in your city. You can also suggest a topic if it is not available for your city. They usually only have 1-2 people per topic, and a lot of the good ones are already taken for the bigger cities.

      If you get approved, you are only approved to write about that one topic. You can't just sign up and then write about anything you want like you can at EzineArticles.com Later on, you can apply for a second topic, but I've heard most people never hear back when they apply for a second one.

      The pay is monthly, and it's "per view." Not sure about the rates, because I do not write for them. I am simply passing along information from several of writers who do write for them.

      This site is more for writers wanting to earn a residual income from their articles getting viewed, not from affiliate links.
      Any idea HOW MUCH "per view", or is that based on a "secret algorithm" like a few other sites?

      EDIT: Apologize...I missed that you had said you aren't sure about the rates...

      Does anyone else know?
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      Originally Posted by Kecia08 View Post

      To apply, you have to select topics from the list available in your city.

      ...

      If you get approved, you are only approved to write about that one topic.
      What she said. (Because in my experience, "Kecia" is a woman's name. If it's supposed to be "Kevin Edwards from the CIA" or something, I apologise.)
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  • Profile picture of the author square1services
    Some time has passed. Did anyone write an article for examiner.com and get pricing? Also, the backlinks always help too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      Originally Posted by square1services View Post

      Some time has passed. Did anyone write an article for examiner.com and get pricing? Also, the backlinks always help too.
      Some time has passed? Looks like less than 24 hours by the timestamps - it takes up to two weeks just to get approved.

      And if you look above, you get paid for views so that wouldn't be something you could tell right off the bat.

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      • Profile picture of the author cscarpero
        Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

        Some time has passed? Looks like less than 24 hours by the timestamps - it takes up to two weeks just to get approved.

        And if you look above, you get paid for views so that wouldn't be something you could tell right off the bat.

        Tina

        Two weeks is on the high side. My account was approved in one day and the first article was approved the next day. Might depend on your account manager though.
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        • Profile picture of the author cscarpero
          Yes, there is a background check and it is through a real background check company. It's to keep the spammers out. By the way, how is this any different than any 9-5 job out there?

          It's not a scam and there are real print journalists that write for Examiner. In fact, many of their writers aren't marketers at all. They just want to make a couple extra bucks from the site. Yes, it is locally focused, so I took the "Dayton internet marketing" slot which can easily be used for pretty much any topic internet related. You can even suggest a topic if yours is not listed.

          As for me not replying to these comments, I didn't get the email notices and just now realized that there were so many comments in this thread. I'm certainly not trying to hide anything.

          As for the referral fees, yes it's $50 if you are an approved writer and refer a writer. If you do it through CJ, it's $5.
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  • Profile picture of the author orlando cassara
    Sounds good thank you for the post it really looks like a website that I can use for a long time, articles are very good way to make some extra money online, wonder why I have never herd about this site before but thanks again.
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  • Profile picture of the author redrabbit
    Seems like an interesting alternative, thanks. Will post back any successes.
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    You have to be in USA or Canada
    la dominatrix
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  • Profile picture of the author bocephus
    Hopefully this wasn't posted simply to generate referral income from potential author sign-ups.

    How exactly is this "Way Better Than Ezine Articles"?

    With Ezine, I can create multiple author names, write about any topic I choose (within reasonable guidelines) and add a resource box with a backlink at the bottom.

    From what I see on Examiner.com... I choose one topic for one city and write about that. How am I going to promote my Inflatable Missouri Bass Boats if my topic is supposed to be Restaurants in Des Moines? It might be better for generating income from writing, but it isn't even close as an article marketing resource.
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      • Profile picture of the author Vanquish
        Nice post, thank you for the find.

        As many of you know article marketing in the IM niche has become very saturated in websites such as ezine articles and go articles.

        You may want to try authority article marketing. Lately its been getting me x4 the traffic that an average ezine article has.

        Some great websites to submit to in the IM niche are;

        Site-Reference.com
        BetterNetworker.com
        EvanCarmichael.com
        AssociatePrograms.com
        ImNewsWatch.com
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          If all those who said "Thanks" to him signed up with him as a referrer, this could turn out to be more profitable, for him, than most WSO threads....lol
          The OP did not try to slip in an affiliate link but was open about a request to be listed as a referrer - nothing wrong with that for those who find that site useful to them. Would they have found it on their own? Probably not.

          I think the site is confusing and don't see anything there that interested me - but for others it may be useful.

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      • Profile picture of the author guyray
        Thanks for the tip! I will definitely look into this.
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  • I think I figured this out.

    I was just accepted as an "Examiner." Even after being accepted, I have no idea what I will get paid. It was a confusing explanation.

    One interesting thing I learned was, if some one reffers you to them, and you are accepted - the reffering person gets $50. I just made the OP $50! And I have no idea what I would get per article

    This is what their email states as payment:
    " ...makes no guarantees as to minimum payment. Focusing on providing robust, useful, topic-specific content that grows your readership and encourages your readers to want to read more than one article is the surest way to maximize your earnings. Payments are processed monthly. As we work to reward Examiners in more ways, we are continuing to offer a referral bonus program, which pays $50 to an Examiner each time one of their friends is selected to be an Examiner. The details and rules of the program are available on our Examiner support site, Epicenter. Only Examiners who have posted their first article and have been activated qualify to participate."

    Why would I post articles if I do not know how much I will get? I think it is time for the OP to come back and explain some things. Or, was this a clever way to get affiliate commissions for him.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by Charles Montgomery View Post

      I think I figured this out.

      I was just accepted as an "Examiner." Even after being accepted, I have no idea what I will get paid. It was a confusing explanation.

      One interesting thing I learned was, if some one reffers you to them, and you are accepted - the reffering person gets $50. I just made the OP $50! And I have no idea what I would get per article

      This is what their email states as payment:
      " ...makes no guarantees as to minimum payment. Focusing on providing robust, useful, topic-specific content that grows your readership and encourages your readers to want to read more than one article is the surest way to maximize your earnings. Payments are processed monthly. As we work to reward Examiners in more ways, we are continuing to offer a referral bonus program, which pays $50 to an Examiner each time one of their friends is selected to be an Examiner. The details and rules of the program are available on our Examiner support site, Epicenter. Only Examiners who have posted their first article and have been activated qualify to participate."

      Why would I post articles if I do not know how much I will get? I think it is time for the OP to come back and explain some things. Or, was this a clever way to get affiliate commissions for him.
      Sure is interesting...

      Apparently they have to rely on their referral incentive to expand the website because their transparency certainly isn't doing the trick...

      ....lesson learned, Charles....you'll find that ALOT of sites follow in Examiner's shoes and don't tell writers how much they are REALLY earning.....

      Doesn't mean that some rare case studies don't do well, just that I can't seem to find more data on how exactly earnings are distributed....
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    • Profile picture of the author mikeevee
      Given that they don't even request content to be original there doesnt seem to be anything stopping people posting PLR articles, perhaps with a new title and a couple of links to their own money-site.
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    • Profile picture of the author KhadijahChapman
      Greetings Charles

      If you write anyway, give it a spin... what can it hurt? I am sure that it will be fair, especially if they are giving a referral fee of $50. I love to write and write for many article directories FOR FREE.. however I do receive traffic to my blog or whatever link I provide, so there is the trade off.. however thats just my humble opinion..

      Good luck..
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      • Profile picture of the author JasonB
        Originally Posted by KhadijahChapman View Post

        Greetings Charles

        If you write anyway, give it a spin... what can it hurt? I am sure that it will be fair, especially if they are giving a referral fee of $50. I love to write and write for many article directories FOR FREE.. however I do receive traffic to my blog or whatever link I provide, so there is the trade off.. however thats just my humble opinion..

        Good luck..
        Straight from their website:

        "Link to Examiner.com from your website and we will pay $5 for each valid application that we receive."

        Thank you for your interest in the Examiner.com Affiliate Program. Join now and start earning great commissions!

        Our program features:

        => $5 for every valid Examiner application that you send us.

        => We're looking for writers across 24 different channel categories and hundreds of subject areas, including yours!

        => Monthly Affiliate Newsletter.

        => Responsive Affiliate Manager.

        We have teamed up with Commission Junction to provide our publishers with trusted third-party tracking, real-time reporting, and monthly commission checks."




        Now, i would assume this is the same as a referral program? If so, they are only paying $5 and not $50.00 - I think it was a typo in that email above.
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      • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
        Originally Posted by KhadijahChapman View Post

        Greetings Charles

        If you write anyway, give it a spin... what can it hurt? I am sure that it will be fair, especially if they are giving a referral fee of $50. I love to write and write for many article directories FOR FREE.. however I do receive traffic to my blog or whatever link I provide, so there is the trade off.. however thats just my humble opinion..

        Good luck..
        Yeah...if they could actually manage a $50 referral commission...people could earn more for just one referral sign up (not even writing an actual article), than for converting a sale on most $97 products....
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  • Profile picture of the author VoiceOfTruth
    I dont know what examiner com is.
    Well I have tried and tested Ezinarticles and document sharing site Docstoc and the results with ezinarticles have been far better.
    I shall never use docstoc or similar again.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    this is "interesting", but then i dont remember anything ranked in Google being on examiner.com? Or maybe i just didnt look for it...
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  • Profile picture of the author juniorbiz
    Hmm...I was going to join yesterday, but decided to do it today.

    After checking back on the posts, I'm having second thoughts about this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Jordan
    Looks like an interesting site. Thanks for sharing!
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  • Profile picture of the author jrichy88
    Dya reckon if you outsourced your article writing for cheap, then got paid to submit it to this site, you'd make your money back and more?
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by jrichy88 View Post

      Dya reckon if you outsourced your article writing for cheap, then got paid to submit it to this site, you'd make your money back and more?
      There is a science behind article writing, jrichy...

      This is actually a very plausible idea (if you don't like to write, or don't have the time, to do it yourself).....

      What I would recommend is:
      I do believe you can outsource your article writing, however, I wouldn't just throw up whatever you have someone write for you.....instead, I would give them proper (detailed) guidance in order to ensure your final product is the closest to what you NEED....

      THEN....I would really work with keyword density/SEO/LSI/LSA, and perfect that product into a product that is highly searchable by search engines and humans alike....

      Master controlling this process, as much as possible, from beginning to end....and, theoretically, you could pay $5-$10 to outsource a piece of writing, submit an article, and have it earn hundreds of dollars over it's lifetime in residual revenue alone.....

      Unfortunately, Examiner isn't very clear on it's payment scheme....

      On the other hand, you will find that many websites in this industry either operate under a flat-fee per article payment scheme, or a lifetime residual payment scheme....

      PERSONALLY....if you are to outsource, my preference would be to submit for lifetime residuals, rather than just selling an article for a $15 flat fee (seems to be most common....)....

      Of course, one may need that $15 RIGHT NOW, however, suppose you could outsource article writing for $5, then, earn $20 consistent residual income on that ONE article for it's entire lifetime......which would you choose?
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  • Profile picture of the author mainstay09
    Many thanks for this as iv'e been looking for other good article sites due to EZA tightening up it's rules recently, looks very promising
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Instead of speculating what they pay, I'm going to call them and ask them:

    Examiner.com
    555 17th Street, Suite 400
    Denver, CO 80202
    Phone: 303-291-8800
    Email: contactus@examiner.com

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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

      Instead of speculating what they pay, I'm going to call them and ask them:

      Examiner.com
      555 17th Street, Suite 400
      Denver, CO 80202
      Phone: 303-291-8800
      Email: contactus@examiner.com

      RoD
      Would be interested in hearing what they say, Rod!

      ....I don't mean to make a mountain out of a mole hill, but I went on a bit of a personal crusade researching and pin-pointing areas of non-transparency in the business models of websites in this industry...

      There are ALOT of websites out there that essentially do the same thing....some with high search engine authority, others with not quite so high authority....

      Examiner appears to have a high search engine authority....but, that can, more than likely, be traced back to just how generous their referral commission is...

      $50 is a pretty decent initial payment just for referring one person....

      It causes people to make very very compelling cases in support of the platform (even, downright lie?) to others.

      Unfortunately, for example, there is a site out there called Suite101....I'm sure you've heard of it...alot of people have....

      It's TOS are embroiled in vagueness when it comes to how much writers are actually paid.....I emailed them up to 5 times, in a polite and professional manner, and was never responded to when I inquired about how revenue is distributed....

      I'm really tired of these websites acting in this manner.

      Why can't writers know how/how much they are paid? Unfortunately, we won't get it unless we demand it...

      And, considering the massive amounts of people that write for these sites, people get sucked into the huge case studies, and potential to earn, that they never even give a thought to question the practices. They see a nice appealing website, and they figure that everything must be on the Up-and-up.....

      Sad. But, true.
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      • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
        Ok...I know I'm going to rub some people the wrong way here...lol....

        But....just to talk a bit about Suite101, because I am seeing essentially the same thing with Examiner...

        HERE are there FAQs:
        FAQ for Suite101 Writers

        "Every month you are paid a share of the advertising revenue related to your writing. Don't expect very high revenues for the first three to five months when you are learning the ropes - writing for Suite101 is a long-term game. Remember that everything you write for Suite101.com earns revenue for every day it's available on our site"

        My beef is....like many websites/companies in this industry, they won't tell you exactly how much of the SHARE people are given....

        What good is showing a $1,000/month case study of a writer, if you have no idea what % of that is actually their share of advertising revenue....

        WHAT if.....what if that writer's $1,000/month earned was the result of a 20% revenue share?.....

        Unfortunately, I think these websites take people for idiots sometimes....they dangle case studies in front of people like a carrot, and, for years actually, they have been quite effective....

        "Only Google knows how much revenue the ads generate when a visitor clicks on a link, but you get a share of the revenue whenever that activity happens. Google tracks every ad click and adds it to your balance. The more pages you have, the more ads appear and the more chances readers will click on them to earn you revenue. Some of our top writers earn $2,000 per month (every month!) by publishing hundreds of articles on our site."

        Yep...a $2,000 case study thrown out there, but they don't tell writers how much of the revenue they actually SHARE....
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        • Profile picture of the author bocephus
          Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post



          My beef is....like many websites/companies in this industry, they won't tell you exactly how much of the SHARE people are given....

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          Yep...a $2,000 case study thrown out there, but they don't tell writers how much of the revenue they actually SHARE....
          I understand your concern, but part of me says "who cares?" If I write an article, and it drives some traffic to my sites, and I get some sort of income from people viewing the article then everything is good. As long as it isn't costing me money.

          My beef is with the original post. This isn't anything like Ezine. Not even close. So, being a cynic, I assume the only real motivation for the post was to drive referrals.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

      Instead of speculating what they pay, I'm going to call them and ask them:

      Examiner.com
      555 17th Street, Suite 400
      Denver, CO 80202
      Phone: 303-291-8800
      Email: contactus@examiner.com

      RoD
      Any word on this Rod?
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  • Profile picture of the author Randy Daugherty
    I'm going to try this, seems like it can be good, although you can only pick one niche and only in your City. Make sure its a good one

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    • Profile picture of the author cscarpero
      Originally Posted by Randy Daugherty View Post

      I'm going to try this, seems like it can be good, although you can only pick one niche and only in your City. Make sure its a good one

      RD
      From what I've read, they seem open to allowing multiple topics from the same author but I've never tried it. You would probably have to be established with them for a while to pull it off.
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  • Profile picture of the author dennewbie
    thanks for sharing, it looks great
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  • Profile picture of the author EvanScott
    Looks good ill deff give it a try
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  • Profile picture of the author pavkey88
    screw it. I signed up anyway - the site's decent. If I make something, great. If not, big whoop. And as for OP, more power to him - hope he makes a crap load of money. You can bet I'll be writing a post about the site and asking for people to use me as the referral too.
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  • Profile picture of the author scannura
    I signed up too. Thanks for the great info, I look forward to seeing how it goes.
    If anyone gets paid for an article, let us know!

    thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author SuzanneR
      ok---I signed up for this, sent my photo and bio as instructed...

      and now they want me to send my social security number so they can do a background check on me and make sure I have good credit and am not a sex offender. *rolling eyes*

      Ummm....can we say scammy scam scam?

      Whom would I report this to? It looks like this company should be looked at closely.

      Anybody here hand over their SS#?

      I sure hope NOT!
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      • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
        Originally Posted by SuzanneR View Post

        ok---I signed up for this, sent my photo and bio as instructed...

        and now they want me to send my social security number so they can do a background check on me and make sure I have good credit and am not a sex offender. *rolling eyes*

        Ummm....can we say scammy scam scam?

        Whom would I report this to? It looks like this company should be looked at closely.

        Anybody here hand over their SS#?

        I sure hope NOT!
        Suzanne,

        They REALLY asked for your SSN#...?

        What are they thinking?
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        • Profile picture of the author SuzanneR
          Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

          Suzanne,

          They REALLY asked for your SSN#...?

          What are they thinking?
          Yep. This is what they wrote:

          "Please click on the link below to provide your information and to authorize Examiner.com to begin your background check:

          Please note that all we will check are your Social Security number, county and federal felony criminal history and sex offender status. We will NOT check your credit, nor contact your current employer. A Social Security number check will post a soft employment inquiry on your credit report. This soft employment inquiry will not adversely affect your credit score.

          These checks are done as a safeguard to both our Examiners and our community of users"

          They're out of their minds.
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          • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
            I know quite a few people who work for them and it's not a scam. They really do pay, although to get good money you have to put a lot of time into it. I know a couple people who bring in a couple extra hundred bucks a month.

            Susan, they ask for the SS# for tax purposes as they will send you an actual 1099 if you make more than $600 with them. They need this in order to write off your payments as an expense against their incomes. Any real job is going to need this information from you.

            Honestly, the sex offender part, I'm not sure about. I find that funny but maybe there has been incidents of those people using the site for nefarious purposes? I don't know.

            Howie, I agree with you on getting the most money for your writing - if that's your goal. There are other reasons to utilize a site, however. I wouldn't plan on using this site to make a living but I wouldn't use any one content site for that anyway.

            Charles, I don't understand your point about the OP not coming back in? He just let people know about the site. I really don't think he expected a huge discussion like this. As to your email, that has got to be a typo. There is no way these guys are giving $50 per referral.

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    Terry, I couldn't have said any of what you posted better myself. There are legitimate reasons why they are asking for this information.

    I had a thread a while back that I think fits here. Why Men Fail - The Hazards Of Cynicism.

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