Thanks button = Bias (Rant)

emigre

14 years ago

Never noticed the thanks button...never used it.

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Kay King 14 years ago

It's funny the things people complain about. "Thanks" is subjective. It can mean

good information
appreciate the answer
glad you agreed with me
very funny
quick wit
I agree with you
thank you for answering my question

or many other things.

Some of what you think are cynical remarks may be members who know BS when they see it - and call people on it. And there are probably those who always thank their friends no matter what. Why does it matter?

One thing you may notice is that those with a high number of "thanks" are often generous in thanking others, too.

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- Daniel Brock 14 years ago
  
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  At the end of the day, 500 thank you points = $0.
  
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GarrieWilson 14 years ago

He who dies with the most thanks wins!
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- Michael Mayo 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by GarrieWilson
  
  He who dies with the most thanks wins!
  
  Damn, I hate it when it come down to that...
  
  Sorry Gary!
  
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- Dennis Gaskill 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by GarrieWilson
  
  He who dies with the most thanks wins!
  
  He who can live happiest with the least thanks is closest to Nirvana.
  
  Zzzzen, baby!
  
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- Kevin Riley 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by GarrieWilson
  
  He who dies with the most thanks wins!
  
  Oh yeah! I best go make some more sarcastic one-line comments.
  
  Seems the semi-nude pics of myself on a bearskin rug don't garner enough to put me in the winner's circle.
  
  Psssst. BTW, anyone Thanking this post will receive not only my gratitude, but a chance to be included in the winner's party I'm throwing when I die.
  
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  Dennis Gaskill 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kevin Riley
  
  Psssst. BTW, anyone Thanking this post will receive not only my gratitude, but a chance to be included in the winner's party I'm throwing when I die.
  
  Do you offer a money-back guarantee? If so, can I get a refund before the party? It seems like it might be kind of hard to contact you after you die.
  
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  Martin Avis 14 years ago
  
  I think the thanks system is just fine the way it is and anyone who feels they don't get enough should just up their game. Same as in most things.
  
  On the other hand, I would like to see the introduction of an 'Idiot' button. I suspect I might use that a whole lot more often than I do the thanks one.
  
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Rod Cortez

14 years ago

Boy, isn't that the truth! Same thing goes for post counts.

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butters 14 years ago

Heavily flawed it is (Yoda speak )... It will always play a role on all forums though because to new people it is a sign of how respected that person is at that forum.
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Raydal

14 years ago

Number of "thanks" also depends on which part of the forum you hang out
as well. If you're mainly in the main forum mainly, then you'll
mainly get more 'thanks' than if you're mainly in the minor
forums--at least that's what I mainly notice.

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butters

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Raydal

Number of "thanks" also depends on which part of the forum you hang out
as well. If you're mainly in the main forum mainly, then you'll
mainly get more 'thanks' than if you're mainly in the minor
forums--at least that's what I mainly notice.

-Ray Edwards

Adding onto that... It also depends on who you are, if you have some sort of "rep" then you will get thanked for some stupid stuff which just bloats the thank's but they deserve

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CurtisN

14 years ago

I would argue that post count and the # of thanks are important, but not the be all and end all of determining one's credibility.

Would you trust someone with 1 post over someone with 10K+?
Would you trust someone with 10K+ posts who has been thanked 0 times over someone with 10K+ posts who has been thanked 5K+ times?

It doesn't matter how much you say it doesn't matter...it matters, at least to a certain extent.

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R Hagel 14 years ago

Originally Posted by CurtisN

Would you trust someone with 10K+ posts who has been thanked 0 times...

Just as a historical side note -- we almost had that exact situation.

Steve (seasoned) had a boatload of posts -- pushing 10,000 -- before the forum software changed over and we got the "thanks" button. Due to personal reasons, he disappeared from the forum for a while.

When he came back, he had thousands of posts... and not one thanks. I'm sure he looked like the most unhelpful person on the planet, especially to those who didn't realize some long-time members racked up thousands of posts before a "thanks" button even existed.

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Michael Mayo

14 years ago

Kay, I had to do it(Your Welcome!)...lol

Originally Posted by Daniel Brock

Who cares?

At the end of the day, 500 thank you points = $0.

Hi Daniel,
That's not always true. In some instances just a few Thanks can lead to sales in the right situations/topics.

Been there and received that before.

Have a Great Day!
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Dennis Gaskill

14 years ago

The thanks button is an optional courtesy, nothing more. I wouldn't call it a system. It does help keep threads from being filled up with posts that say nothing more than.......thanks. I think most would agree the forum is better because of it, if for no other reason than its less scrolling because their aren't 15 posts that say nothing more than "thanks" in a thread.

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MrYossu

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Magic Mel

Don't ever base your opinions, on how many thanks a warrior has. It's obvious that the thank system is heavily favored with bias. There are warriors that make cynical remarks, or say a one line post to be cute and they seem to get a herd of thank youS.

There are other warriors, who contribute all the time and provide information that is helpful and dead accurate and never get thanks because... they may not be as popular as other warriors or liked.

I seen warriors use pics of hot females and get thanks just because of that as well, the thank system is heavily flawed!

The "system" isn't biased, because no-one is subverting it. Maybe you feel it isn't being used as well as it might, but that's not the same thing as saying the system itself is biased.

Anyway, what's wrong with it? Thanking someone for helping you is a very valuable and sadly lacking part of human interaction. What does it cost? Nothing. What does it benefit? Well, it makes the thanked person (thankee?) feel good, and it does actually show others what the person is helpful, even if the help was brightening their day with a hot pic.

By the way, have you really seen anyone thanked for that? I haven't. I've only ever seen people thanked for, well, useful posts. Maybe I don't get out enough

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

It does help keep threads from being filled up with posts that say nothing more than.......thanks. I think most would agree the forum is better because of it, if for no other reason than its less scrolling because their aren't 15 posts that say nothing more than "thanks" in a thread.

I wish this were true. Sadly, the forum is still full of "thanks" posts, although thankfully, not as many as there used to be.

I would like to encourage the use of the thanks button. I'm childish enough to be slightly chuffed when anyone thanks me, and polite enough to thank anyone who I feel has been helpful.

Originally Posted by Daniel Brock

Who cares?

At the end of the day, 500 thank you points = $0.

No, 500 thank you points = 500 times feeling good that you've helped someone. Kind of gives encouragement to do it again. This forum is (supposedly) about helping each other out. Thanks is such a simple way to let people know they helped.

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The forum software could even be programmed to highlight those who have been 'trusted' in this fashion by scanning posts for phrases like 'I really lurve you all, you're my besht mates...' or 'Oi! Get yer coat off - we're sortin' this outside - NOW!', with extra points added for an obvious inability to type a sentence in a straight line.

That's hysterical! I even clicked the thanks button to show my appreciation, thus boosting your thanks count even more, and making the system even more corrupt and disgracefully misleading than it already is

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Martin Luxton 14 years ago

How about looking at the number of thanks in a different way?

For example, 200 thanks in 150 posts means that person has contributed something to this forum on a regular basis that touched 200 people (or 1 person 200 times, if you want to be cynical ).

Isn't that what forums are about?

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Charles Washington

14 years ago

Originally Posted by MrYossu

The "system" isn't biased, because no-one is subverting it. Maybe you feel it isn't being used as well as it might, but that's not the same thing as saying the system itself is biased.

Anyway, what's wrong with it? Thanking someone for helping you is a very valuable and sadly lacking part of human interaction. What does it cost? Nothing. What does it benefit? Well, it makes the thanked person (thankee?) feel good, and it does actually show others what the person is helpful, even if the help was brightening their day with a hot pic.

By the way, have you really seen anyone thanked for that? I haven't. I've only ever seen people thanked for, well, useful posts. Maybe I don't get out enough

I wish this were true. Sadly, the forum is still full of "thanks" posts, although thankfully, not as many as there used to be.

I would like to encourage the use of the thanks button. I'm childish enough to be slightly chuffed when anyone thanks me, and polite enough to thank anyone who I feel has been helpful.

No, 500 thank you points = 500 times feeling good that you've helped someone. Kind of gives encouragement to do it again. This forum is (supposedly) about helping each other out. Thanks is such a simple way to let people know they helped.

That's hysterical! I even clicked the thanks button to show my appreciation, thus boosting your thanks count even more, and making the system even more corrupt and disgracefully misleading than it already is

Ta ra
Alan

I have no idea what he said. It was just way too long to read. But I figured if he took the time to write that many words, it must be good. So, a Thanks was in order.

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mojojuju

14 years ago

Magic Mel, I clicked the "Thanks" button under your post just for the hell of it.

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Ron Douglas

14 years ago

We need a 'No Thanks' button haha.

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Michael Mayo 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ron Douglas

We need a 'No Thanks' button haha.

So a set of Good post Bad Post buttons is what we need?
Wouldn't work either. Still would be biased and manipulated by others.

There is really no good way to do it other than charging people for their choices and even then only the strong would survive.

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Dan C. Rinnert 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ron Douglas

We need a 'No Thanks' button haha.

I suggested a "Sarcastic Thanks" button a while back.
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TonyDavis 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ron Douglas

We need a 'No Thanks' button haha.

Options for a button to accompany the 'Thanks' button:

Bah!
Who Cares?
You're Crazy!
WTF?
Insane!

and my personal favorite....

I'm telling Allen!

There's plenty of room down there for a few buttons....
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  Oh... and my first Thanks is for sell.... to the highest bidder!
  
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Mike Anthony 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ron Douglas

We need a 'No Thanks' button haha.

We already have it. Its in our browsers as the back button. Comes in very handy in the WSO section. Has got me out of scam offers on many occassion.
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Emily Meeks

14 years ago

Just thanked three people in this thread because they made great points that I agree with.

As others have said, it keeps threads from being filled up with cluttering "thanks" posts. Now, instead of some clique-cult you-thank-me-I-thank-you thing going, here's a revolutionary idea... it's a USEFUL post?

Think of Steven Wagenheim for instance... I mention him because the guy has 14K posts (not counting his OT posts) which is pretty much more than anyone else on the forum, and they're not a bunch of two-three liners - more like two-three paragraphs of opinions/information people find useful. We've never gone out for drinks, but I've thanked him a bunch because I agree with him or he writes something that makes me think, "Hmmm, I haven't thought about it that way before - you have a GREAT point there..."

Even if you're not so well-known, I'll still hit the Thanks button for you if your post was useful to me in some way (and do so quite often). I don't consider how long someone's been at the forum into account to determine whether or not they're worthy of "Thanks".

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George Wright

14 years ago

A man held the door on the subway for me today, I said thanks. The clerk at the store Thanked me and I thanked her for thanking me. The receipt from the store said thank you at the bottom. I bought my wife a bag of sunflower seeds and she said thanks. A man on the train today stepped on a ladies foot and she said very angryly, "THANKS A LOT." I lost count on the number of thank you/s I said or heard today. The world is having a thank you conspiracy I tell you.

Thank you very much,

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Hanz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by George Wright

A man held the door on the subway for me today, I said thanks. The clerk at the store Thanked me and I thanked her for thanking me. The receipt from the store said thank you at the bottom. I bought my wife a bag of sunflower seeds and she said thanks. A man on the train today stepped on a ladies foot and she said very angryly, "THANKS A LOT." I lost count on the number of thank you/s I said or heard today. The world is having a thank you conspiracy I tell you.

Thank you very much,

George Wright

LOL! Thanks for that great post!

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Rod Cortez 14 years ago

I guess this isn't a good time to bring up having a possible "You're welcome" button.....

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Paul Myers

14 years ago

Mel,

There are other warriors, who contribute all the time and provide information that is helpful and dead accurate and never get thanks because... they may not be as popular as other warriors or liked.

That's reality. It's just as true offline as on. What do you suggest we do about it?

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Dan C. Rinnert

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Mel,That's reality. It's just as true offline as on. What do you suggest we do about it?

Maybe you should do away with manual thanks and develop a thanks algorithm that will parse the content of a post and automatically award thanks based on an unpublished set of criteria.

I'm sure no one will try to game that and you'll get absolutely no complaints about such a system. :rolleyes:

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Loren Woirhaye

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

Maybe you should do away with manual thanks and develop a thanks algorithm that will parse the content of a post and automatically award thanks based on an unpublished set of criteria.

I'm sure no one will try to game that and you'll get absolutely no complaints about such a system. :rolleyes:

This is truly the most logical solution. With today's technology it should
be simple to eliminate human bias so we know once and for all who is
trustworthy and who is not.

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halfpoint 14 years ago

What difference does it make why people use the thanks button? You shouldn't be basing your opinion on a person based on the number of thanks they have, you should base it on the content of their posts.

If I start a thread asking a question I'll generally "thank" everyone who contributed positively to the thread. However, most of the time I use the thanks button it's simply for when I agree with someone.

It's just there to show your gratitude to the poster for any reason - nothing more.
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Warrior Markets

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

Maybe you should do away with manual thanks and develop a thanks algorithm that will parse the content of a post and automatically award thanks based on an unpublished set of criteria.

I'm sure no one will try to game that and you'll get absolutely no complaints about such a system. :rolleyes:

This is an Internet Marketing forum: people will start implementing SEO tactics on their posts; build a few backlinks; heck, some will even send PPC traffic to their posts.

I do, however, agree with Mel's point overall. Too often, you see the same people thanking the same people. But that in itself is not the issue; it's the inconsistency: too many people base their responses based on who said it, as opposed to what was said.

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Robert Puddy

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Magic Mel

There are other warriors, who contribute all the time and provide information that is helpful and dead accurate and never get thanks because... they may not be as popular as other warriors or liked.

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Mel,That's reality. It's just as true offline as on. What do you suggest we do about it?

Paul

Ok hang on... Paul Myers is more popular than me... THAT CANT BE RIGHT

Damn your right its a conspiracy bigger than watergate, I want the forum tapped and investigated. Call in NCIS and the ghostbusters

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Paul Myers 14 years ago

Bob,

Ok hang on... Paul Myers is more popular than me...

The only thing that proves is that the system isn't broken completely.

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- Robert Puddy 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Paul Myers
  
  Bob,The only thing that proves is that the system isn't broken completely.
  
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  Come on Man...
  
  No one is going to believe your more popular than me, the credibility of the whole forum will be ruined if Allan doesnt start an independant investigation of the misuse of the thank you button.
  
  "Thankyou gate" could put His whole online career in jeapordy, if he allows that rumour to spread
  
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  Paul Myers 14 years ago
  
  Bob,
  
  No one is going to believe your more popular than me
  
  My mother would. So there!
  
  the credibility of the whole forum will be ruined if Allan doesnt
  
  ... And how many ways have we seen that sentence ended over the years?
  
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Magic Mel

Don't ever base your opinions, on how many thanks a warrior has. It's obvious that the thank system is heavily favored with bias.

Very true. But I don't care.

In one thread that got heated, I thanked people just for replying professionally and without making disparaging remarks (even if I didn't agree with what they were saying).

There's also a bias in how respectfully or disrespectfully people respond to other warriors' posts. But again, I can't get too worked up about it. That's life.

Just wondered why it bothers you so much...

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CDarklock

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Magic Mel

It's obvious that the thank system is heavily favored with bias.

Yeah. You can tell from all the thanks a loser like me has, while someone as great as you barely has any. :rolleyes:

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TheMagicShow 14 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

Yeah. You can tell from all the thanks a loser like me has, while someone as great as you barely has any. :rolleyes:

Thanks for the chuckle. people like you fit my rant perfectly, keep on getting banned buddy

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- CDarklock 14 years ago
  
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  keep on getting banned buddy
  
  If you are not pissing anyone off, you cannot possibly be saying anything important.
  
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  TheMagicShow 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by CDarklock
  
  If you are not pissing anyone off, you cannot possibly be saying anything important.
  
  It takes you, almost a day to make a statement/comeback. Please don't waste my time, you are just a troll that gets banned on-n-on...
  
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  CDarklock 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Magic Mel
  
  It takes you, almost a day to make a statement/comeback. Please don't waste my time, you are just a troll that gets banned on-n-on...
  
  Yeah, because if I wasn't such a troll, I'd have been here having a pissing contest with you at four in the morning. :rolleyes:
  
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  Paul Myers 14 years ago
  
  Caliban,
  
  If you are not pissing anyone off, you cannot possibly be saying anything important.
  
  Maybe. Even if that's true, it's not relevant. The fact that you're pissing someone off doesn't necessarily mean what you're saying is important.
  
  Being pissed off isn't a reason to ban a member, either. Any aggravation that might be involved is the result of the underlying infraction.
  
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  CDarklock 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Paul Myers
  
  The fact that you're pissing someone off doesn't necessarily mean what you're saying is important.
  
  That's true. It may also mean that the person you're pissing off gets pissed off about unimportant things.
  
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  Paul Myers 14 years ago
  
  Caliban,
  
  That's true. It may also mean that the person you're pissing off gets pissed off about unimportant things.
  
  In general, that's also true. Given the context, which was WF mods banning people, I find that unlikely. At least as a reason for banning.
  
  If we banned people for pissing us off, there'd be no more than a dozen regular posters left.
  
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  CDarklock 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Paul Myers
  
  Given the context, which was WF mods banning people, I find that unlikely.
  
  It certainly looked to me like all I did was piss someone off. Did I miss something?
  
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  Paul Myers 14 years ago
  
  It certainly looked to me like all I did was piss someone off. Did I miss something?
  
  Yeah.
  
  You need to speak with the person (people?) involved to get the details, but... Yeah. You missed something.
  
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  CDarklock 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Paul Myers
  
  You need to speak with the person (people?) involved to get the details
  
  I should already have them. If I don't, the system has failed.
  
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  Paul Myers 14 years ago
  
  I should already have them. If I don't, the system has failed.
  
  Or it's intended to work differently than you expect. Or you were told and choose to believe something different. Or you're playing word games. Or you weren't paying attention. Or something else I haven't thought of.
  
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  Kevin Riley 14 years ago
  
  So far, I've picked up 8 Thanks in this thread. Anyone else want to contribute to the "Kevin Riley Quest To Die With The Most Thanks" campaign?
  
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  Tina Golden 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kevin Riley
  
  So far, I've picked up 8 Thanks in this thread. Anyone else want to contribute to the "Kevin Riley Quest To Die With The Most Thanks" campaign?
  
  Anything to help a friend.
  
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  Martin Luxton 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kevin Riley
  
  So far, I've picked up 8 Thanks in this thread. Anyone else want to contribute to the "Kevin Riley Quest To Die With The Most Thanks" campaign?
  
  You'll have to outlive Steven Wagenheim by about 2,000 years.
  
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  Rod Cortez 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Martin Luxton
  
  You'll have to outlive Steven Wagenheim by about 2,000 years.
  
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  Steven Wagenheim 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Rod Cortez
  
  Martin, you left out a zero.......
  
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  If only I could find a way to outlive myself by 2,000 years.
  
  I wonder what IM will be like in 4010?
  
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  R Hagel 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kevin Riley
  
  So far, I've picked up 8 Thanks in this thread. Anyone else want to contribute to the "Kevin Riley Quest To Die With The Most Thanks" campaign?
  
  Yeah, I thanked you. But I don't feel really good about it. Instead, I feel manipulated. I feel like I'm now a part of the problem -- I'm just another person contributing to the corruption (and perhaps collapse) of the entire "thanks" system.
  
  Oh, the humanity.
  
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  CDarklock 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by R Hagel
  
  I'm just another person contributing to the corruption (and perhaps collapse) of the entire "thanks" system.
  
  Bahahaha...
  
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  AaronSpinelli 14 years ago
  
  Call me crazy, but I don't see the thanks button anywhere. Where exactly is it?
  
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  Kella Bella 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kevin Riley
  
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Mrs S

14 years ago

I generally only hit the thanks button if someone says something useful, that teaches me something. I have to say though that I never even look to see how many times someone has been thanked.

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Kella Bella

14 years ago

I agree people shouldn't use the number of thanks as a way to gauge how "honest" or "good" a person is for any reason be it a WSO, etc. That being said, I am a thank you addict and I swear I am looking for a 12 step program. Usually I will thank someone for a compliment, for saying what I would have said and saving me the typing, for giving advice that makes sense to me even if it is to someone else, and I usually make a habit of thanking people who contribute posts to threads that I start.

This is the first forum I have belonged to that has an un thanks button. That kind of cracks me up. I dunno about a sarcastic button but sometimes I could use a smirking one :-)

Edited to add: Okay since this thread is about the thank you button I looked over under my name and got all excited cause I saw 61 thanks in 93 posts and while I am not super competitive I was thinking dang good goin Kel. Then it dawned on me those were thank yous that I clicked. So I've been thanked 9 times in 93 posts that's about a 10% click through rate not bad in the world of internet marketing right? lol

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Louise Green

14 years ago

You know I've always understood that 'No Politics' rule to mean more than just state/geo-politics

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Steven Wagenheim

14 years ago

Just when I thought we had run out of things to bitch about.

:sigh:

And please, NOBODY thank me for this reply because it was made out of
pure disgust.

Oh, and how does this thread have anything to do with making money?

:confused::confused::confused:

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Diana Lane

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Just when I thought we had run out of things to bitch about.

:sigh:

And please, NOBODY thank me for this reply because it was made out of
pure disgust.

Oh, and how does this thread have anything to do with making money?

:confused::confused::confused:

The obvious solution would be to reinstate the 'Buy me a beer' button. Money would change hands (making threads like this one at least slightly relevant) and reducing the bitchery due to the amount of people too happily inebriated to care.

The forum software could even be programmed to highlight those who have been 'trusted' in this fashion by scanning posts for phrases like 'I really lurve you all, you're my besht mates...' or 'Oi! Get yer coat off - we're sortin' this outside - NOW!', with extra points added for an obvious inability to type a sentence in a straight line.

Some people do seem more susceptible to the influence of 'Thanks' than others, but they should be taken in moderation. They're just records of what somebody once thought was a good idea and they don't show the aftermath, which could well have been a hole in the wallet area and a blinding headache brought on by pitching in at a dodgy party.

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R Hagel

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Diana Lane

...reducing the bitchery due to the amount of people too happily inebriated to care.

The forum software could even be programmed to highlight those who have been 'trusted' in this fashion by scanning posts for phrases like 'I really lurve you all, you're my besht mates...' or 'Oi! Get yer coat off - we're sortin' this outside - NOW!', with extra points added for an obvious inability to type a sentence in a straight line.

Holy crap. That's the first time I've laughed out loud this morning!

ETA: Thinking about it, though, it's not such a good idea. Wouldn't bringing the beer button back put some people at risk of alcohol poisoning?

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Jon Tees

14 years ago

I don't really see it as bias but rather as a way for people to have their names associated with a high traffic posts even if they didn't really contribute to the post. They thank the people who did, simply so that others will see their name under people who have thanked the author, click on their name and view their bios to find out more about them etc. It's sort of like a mild form of attraction marketing.

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Tsnyder

14 years ago

Frankly, I think it's a sad state of affairs when someone on a forum
devoted to people who desire to own businesses earning great sums
of money finds it necessary to warn these people not to base decisions
on something as superficial as a thank you button.

Does the OP really think other members have such low capacity for
critical thinking? What does that say about them? Or him for that matter?

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Kay King 14 years ago

Becky made a point I hadn't thought of - the "thanks" button was added abut August or so 2008 when we moved to this forum platform.

Many long time members had been posting here for years before that.

Remember "buy me a beer?"

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Rod Cortez 14 years ago

Folks, what we need is a "Doh!" button ala Homer Simpson. Even better if it actually makes the same sound effect he does.........

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Oscar D

14 years ago

This is a valid point, thank you

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JayXtreme

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Magic Mel

Don't ever base your opinions, on how many thanks a warrior has. It's obvious that the thank system is heavily favored with bias. There are warriors that make cynical remarks, or say a one line post to be cute and they seem to get a herd of thank youS.

There are other warriors, who contribute all the time and provide information that is helpful and dead accurate and never get thanks because... they may not be as popular as other warriors or liked.

I seen warriors use pics of hot females and get thanks just because of that as well, the thank system is heavily flawed!

With all due respect, Mel...

You need to get out more.

And maybe credit some of us around here... you know, people running our own businesses....with at least enough intelligence to navigate this "thanks" system minefield :rolleyes:

I give 'thanks' out for a whole variety of reasons, not just content packed posts, some of which Kay mentioned above... And that ain't gonna change as long as the button is there to be used.

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JohnMcCabe

14 years ago

Here's an idea...

Let's steal an idea from comedian Bill Engvall. His gimmick is based on the idea that terminally stupid people should be made to wear a sign identifying themselves. When someone says something silly, his tag line is "here's your sign."

I'm proposing a "here's your sign" button - the anti-thanks button...

YouTube - Bill Engvall - Here's Your Sign (Video)

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stevecl

14 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

Here's an idea...

Let's steal an idea from comedian Bill Engvall. His gimmick is based on the idea that terminally stupid people should be made to wear a sign identifying themselves. When someone says something silly, his tag line is "here's your sign."

I'm proposing a "here's your sign" button - the anti-thanks button...

YouTube - Bill Engvall - Here's Your Sign (Video)

We already have one called an infraction

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14 years ago

Thanks Mel

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Okay I'm feeling generous I will thank everyone in this thread :p.
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Mike Merz 14 years ago

As a long time board owner, admin, moderator, so on and so forth, you have to do what you can to keep folks interested, posting helpful quality content, and coming back for more ... one of the ways to accomplish this is through rewarding peer recognition.

Is it always 100% reliable? Of course not ... what is?

Fact of the matter is that the majority of times, members that receive the most 'thanks' are those that have provided solid, reliable content over time ... or they have achieved a level of positive self and or product branding, credibility, and reputation to warrant respect ... even if the one time post that really doesn't offer all that much is showered with 'thank yous', they have earned peer recognition.

Not getting the same respect? ... keep posting quality content and you'll most likely get there in time.

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Ernie Lo

14 years ago

LOL I seriously doubt many of us judge members on how many "thanks" they get. I mean are we a bunch of monkeys or what.

I use the thanks button to say "thanks" and not waste a reply just thanking the person - thats all, nothing more to it.

I hope everyone else is the same

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Andyhenry

14 years ago

I'll be controversial - anyone who makes a decision about a warrior based on thank you numbers is an idiot. You could get a bunch of children all sign up and thank each other....

It's only important to people who don't have lots and think they're missing out.

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Floyd Fisher

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Magic Mel

Don't ever base your opinions, on how many thanks a warrior has. It's obvious that the thank system is heavily favored with bias. There are warriors that make cynical remarks, or say a one line post to be cute and they seem to get a herd of thank youS.

There are other warriors, who contribute all the time and provide information that is helpful and dead accurate and never get thanks because... they may not be as popular as other warriors or liked.

I seen warriors use pics of hot females and get thanks just because of that as well, the thank system is heavily flawed!

Why sweat the small stuff like that?

I personally don't care if I get a thanks, or a beer for that matter. For me, it's all about contributing in a positive manner, and let the chips fall where they may.

Here's my take on that: Add in two dollars, and you can buy yourself a cup of coffee at the local Starbucks.

Focus on providing value with each and every post, and get your thanks from 'your morning shaving partiner' instead. When you can look yourself in the eye, and know you did a good job, it's worth far more than the opinions of others.

That is exactly where your focus should be, not on popularity.

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14 years ago

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What compells you to give out thanks Mel?

Personally I've never given someone thanks just because I like them. I only give them out because I like what they said. It might be because it was useful. It might just be because it made me laugh.

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MrYossu

14 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnHuizinga

Personally I've never given someone thanks just because I like them. I only give them out because I like what they said. It might be because it was useful. It might just be because it made me laugh.

Couldn't agree more. I also don't care how many thanks a person has (or hasn't). If they've helped me, I'll thank them. I might be the first person to do so, but so what?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnHuizinga

Personally I've never given someone thanks just because I like them. I only give them out because I like what they said. It might be because it was useful. It might just be because it made me laugh.

I am with you. I give out thanks to those who have helped me. I give out thanks to those who have made a good point, etc... NEVER b/c I am trying to be hip with the "gurus."

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Pragun

14 years ago

As Kay King said, thanks is just a way to express that you liked someone's post, or well, someone else liked yours !
Don't put too much thought into it.

I really doubt that the wise ones give too much weightage to the amount of "thanks" that a certain person has received..

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Fernando Veloso

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Magic Mel

I seen warriors use pics of hot females and get thanks just because of that as well, the thank system is heavily flawed!

Male users with female name and avatar? NO way!!!! :p

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ron.the.bull

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Magic Mel

Don't ever base your opinions, on how many thanks a warrior has. It's obvious that the thank system is heavily favored with bias. There are warriors that make cynical remarks, or say a one line post to be cute and they seem to get a herd of thank youS.

There are other warriors, who contribute all the time and provide information that is helpful and dead accurate and never get thanks because... they may not be as popular as other warriors or liked.

I seen warriors use pics of hot females and get thanks just because of that as well, the thank system is heavily flawed!

Hmm, someone should be spending more time with action.

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Vis

14 years ago

wow, this really clears up a lot of questions about the thanks button. I agree that there are many reasons for using that button... so in the spirit of our journey in internet marketing, could we add this "USEFUL" button??

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Kay King 14 years ago

I think we just took a journey - around the bend....
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Kella Bella

14 years ago

I just had a thought about all of this. And no offense to the OP btw. I just think if a person is sitting anywhere-on this forum or anywhere else on the net-and thinks the only reason they did not get a sale/or whatever they wanted was because they didn't have enough "thanks" to impress someone who doesn't even know them.....they need to start taking responsibility for their own success or lack of it.

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Emily Meeks

14 years ago

Can we close this thread? I just don't see it going anywhere productive.

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Ken Leatherman

14 years ago

OMG a Waggie in 4010. Only if Paul Myers and Kevin Reiley with Beck Hagel has backup could we survive. Don't forget my thanks. and Oh yeah Rod cortez to drink with Riley. Once again don't forget my thanks. If I left you out thank me anyway.

Hmmm! is this thank you spamming? Don't forget to thank me for opening this discussion into a sub topic of thank you spamming. yes thanks are needed.

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Dennis Gaskill

14 years ago

Come on folks, please. Hasn't this gone far enough, or do you want blood?

Isn't the purpose behind a forum to learn from each other and to help each other? Mel was feeling unappreciated. Haven't you ever felt that way? I know I have.

I looked at some of Mel's posts. In the ones I read he was trying to help people. He may not be as eloquent as some, and that makes me wonder if perhaps some people really are under appreciated because they don't express themselves as well as others. That doesn't make their intentions less honorable or their ideas less valuable.

I'm not saying his rant was the way to go, far from it, but it's not like he's a troll that just showed up. He's been a member for 3 years and has been very involved in the community. Is it necessary to keep having fun at his expense? I think he's received the message.

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Chris Worner

14 years ago

This much controversy over a single rant? I think I will become a troll!

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Originally Posted by skyfox7

This much controversy over a single rant? I think I will become a troll!

Too late, I am here.
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Mike Merz

14 years ago

You're likely to receive more positive peer recognition commensurate to your level of self and/or product branding, notoriety, reputation, and so on. Is it wrong to be thanked too often or too heavily in reciprocation for what your opinion has meant to your peers over time? Does value, perceived or otherwise, need to be confined to a single post to be credit worthy?

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14 years ago

Great Idea! I was trying to find a good picture to put as my DP! Whats a good site to find a "hot Chick thumbnail"

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Paul Myers

14 years ago

Dennis,

it's not like he's a troll that just showed up.

Or any other kind.

Notice that I didn't disagree with him. I asked what he'd suggest we do about what he sees as a problem. Given that it results from human nature, I'm personally inclined to accept that it will happen, and make proper allowances for the effect. If he has a "solution," I'd love to hear it.

As long as it's not too radical a thing, mind you. I don't see this as a large problem that really needs solving. Others might disagree.

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Dennis Gaskill

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Dennis,Or any other kind.

Notice that I didn't disagree with him. I asked what he'd suggest we do about what he sees as a problem. Given that it results from human nature, I'm personally inclined to accept that it will happen, and make proper allowances for the effect. If he has a "solution," I'd love to hear it.

As long as it's not too radical a thing, mind you. I don't see this as a large problem that really needs solving. Others might disagree.

Paul

I usually do take note of what you say, Paul. I open threads I wouldn't normally be interested in if I see your name. Of course, my comment wasn't directed at you or at anyone specifically. What you said was pretty innocuous, most people were reasonable, it's just the cumulative effect. Death by 1,000 cuts. I just don't see any point in continuing to beat him up over it. Apparently I've wasted my time.

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Paul Myers 14 years ago

Dennis,

I just don't see any point in continuing to beat him up over it.

I don't think it's especially about beating him up. However, there's a larger point in these threads, with a couple of lessons. One is that dissent is allowed, and even encouraged, as long as it's relevant and not too outlandish. I think that's a useful thing for people to know. The last thing we need is a few thousand people who agree on everything. That would be a comic waste of everyone's time.

The other is that you shouldn't start a fight unless you're sure it's one worth fighting. I only saw a few responses that were more raw than his original post, so it's not like this got out of hand. If you're going to rant at a group, you have to expect that some of them will rant back.

These threads usually bring out other sides of the issues, too. There are a bunch of factors that influence why people use the thanks button, many of which were mentioned here. Others were hinted at. It's probable that a number of people gave useful consideration to how they do things as a result, which benefits the group as a whole in the long run.

I don't think you wasted your time at all. I just think that the people who can close threads are looking at it from a different perspective.

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Dennis Gaskill

14 years ago

Paul,

I know what you're saying, and I said myself the responses were mostly innocuous, taken one at a time that is. I wasn't calling for the thread to be deleted either. I've seen worse threads. However, in those threads it's two or more people going at it. In this instance, it's pretty much everyone against Mel, he hasn't done much fighting back. The cumulative effect of dozens of small blows often hurts worse than a few hard blows. Is there no room for clemency?

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Paul Myers 14 years ago

Dennis,

Clemency for what? Magic didn't do anything that requires it. He's got a valid point, which should be considered by everyone on the forum. He expressed it in acceptable ways. He didn't do a thing wrong.

If people aren't getting his point, it's because they're not thinking about it. That's not his fault.

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Dennis Gaskill

14 years ago

Paul,

Clemency because he hasn't been defending himself for quite some time. Where I come from when two people get in a fight and one gives up, you stop beating him up.

Anyway, things seem to have calmed down. I'm not going to belabor the point any longer.

Dennis

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TheMagicShow

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

Paul,

Clemency because he hasn't been defending himself for quite some time. Where I come from when two people get in a fight and one gives up, you stop beating him up.

Anyway, things seem to have calmed down. I'm not going to belabor the point any longer.

Dennis

Dennis,

I never gave up. I made my point, if people liked it great..if not....that's their issue not mine.

I am not gonna spend my day, coming up w/ rebuttals to posts made in this thread..

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JohnMcCabe

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Magic Mel

Dennis,

I never gave up. I made my point, if people liked it great..if not....that's their issue not mine.

I am not gonna spend my day, coming up w/ rebuttals to posts made in this thread..

Nice restraint. Appreciated...

One way to get otherwise useful discussions locked down or deleted is for people to get into wee-wee measuring contests over things that don't warrant them.

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